Guide to bolt on 4.6 2v Mustang GT 99 00 01 02 03 04 new edge
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- The is my fast guide on what you can expect from a bolt on 4.6 2v GT and what you should know before you start.
Mods include 4.10 gears, Comp cams xe262ah, C&L plenum, 75mm throttle body, k&n intake, underdrive pulleys, Bama handheld tuner, and other small things like short shifter and such.
Watch her run from 40 to 70 • 2nd to 3rd gear 40 to ...
Also check out my other videos for more test runs.
Plan on buying one of these before the summer ends and I appreciate the great information. Clear cut and simple explanations to what to look for your not trying to force your opinions on people who might not know as much. 1 new subscriber.
Just purchased a 2002 mustang gt 5spd. 80k miles all stock. This was a good video for alot of what I plan to do also 👍
when i had my 1999 mustang GT, i ran a 70mm th body, mac long tube headers with 3 in collectors, 3 in mac power chamber no cats, ported upper intake plen, FRPP underdrive pulleys, 24 lb injectors, 4.10 gears, Ported 80mm mass air, K&N open element filter, Super Chips tune for 100 oct fuel.. 310 hp with a Auto and a 3000 stall and a transgo shiftkit
Happy dyno
to the wheels or crank?
This video was put together amazingly ! thumbs up for sure
Adding this to my watch later, some good info. I'm buying one of these in a month or so, trying to gather as much info on it as possible.
My intake started leaking coolant so I was about to buy the Dorman intake but luckily I saw your video and got the ford performance one
Nice videos man very good presentation and information was helpful
those 10th anniversary wheels though 😍😍
Sounds and looks awesome and great info
I’m one of the lucky ones that got a Windsor motor and a TR-3650 in my 2001. Found that out real quick when I went to install my short shifter. 🤣
those rims and tires are perfect
Love the color ,good information,
bro you have a beautiful mustang.... thanks for all the info.
Ok my dude you ... I totally respect you making this video and no shade but there's factors we need to correct and I've been a foxbody/SN95 driver since the 80's and this is the ONLY cars I drive.
1. It's not Trimik .. it's TREMEC... "Trim-Mick"
2. It's not Plenium ... It's PLENUM
3. Gears is probably THE ABSOLUTE SECOND THING you probably want to do with these SN95's and pretty much any car and yes, like you said it totally changes the speed game installed.
4. You can replace the Cold Air Intake first, that PLENUM will not make a difference right now getting started because the fact the air going in won't change, velocity will not change. You are however leaving room to grow.
5. The pulleys from 99-04 are ALL the same, there's no difference in them
6. If you are going to run it hard, you got HOTTER when N/a... COLDER when you start bringing boost. You go colder then you risk fouling your plugs.
7. These cars are capable of seeing 400hp at the wheels with better cams and intake.
8. Camshaft swaps depending on your kit can yield around 35-40hp.(These stock heads are more restrictive than a shy virgin)
9 Correct, these cars are more than capable in the low 12's with little work involved. low 11's if you snag a set of trickflow heads.
10. You can grab a Superchips handheld tuner for light tuning control of the car, turning off traction control PERMANENTLY, timing and some other light tuning abilities.
11. You missed one factor... your mid pipe. If you want that pure race car high pitch sound, X-Pipe(personal I feel these produce better powerbands) or an H-Pipe for that low farty 80's rumble .
12. Tires are a big factor. A set of Nitto 555r's or NT05's at least in the rear will give your car a damn good hook with the right pressures and heat. Those brands even hook in the rain depending on the road lol.
Thankyou. Everyone swears on things that add maybe 10hp max like an intake or plenum when it's not fixing the restrictive heads. Save the cash on silly things and spend it on gears, weight reduction and boost/headwork
99 to 04 pulleys are NOT the same..water pump pull is definitely different. I stopped ready there..i have a 99,02 and 08....readers beware before buying underdrive pulleys. Get the mid 01 to 04 is thats what you have or your s.o.l.
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Keith Alexander try i just ordered the sr performance pulleys for my 02 gt and i also heard they are not the same as the 99-01
Yes man. I love my nitto 555rs size 285 on the rear. My car handles like a beast with Koni struts. I’ve never once spun out on dry pavement. Not sure how fast my car is, but it beats the eco boost and v6 chargers guys. A new clutch would probably make this a 13 seconds car with the mods it already has (CAI, 75 mm throttle body plenum, gears, pullys, and x pipes with flow masters super 44s.
I love that color lol very nice!
this is good content, very informative.
Your videos are exactly right man. I have had 5 99-04 mustang gts and 1 roush that body style. Your exactly right about intake manifolds. People bash these cars but for 3-5k they are awesome. But anyways great info and sharp ride. Keep the videos coming. I sadly sold all of mine away. Bought a 350z and 04 gto and honestly they weren't near as fun as these cars. Now I'm driving a lifted Silverado lol
Thanks for the comment. I been bashed about the intakes however just holding both side by side will tell you all you need to know. I always heard the 2V sucks however considering the cost of the vehicle it exceeded my expectations after i did all my mods (stock was pretty bad). The nice part is you can get good used motors all day long for under $600 out of crown vics 02 and up.The 4 valve is not a cheap motor to wear out.I really think these cars don't get the credit, i remember the old fox bodies that came with 215hp and you needed to swap the heads before you can even think about getting near 300hp at the rear wheels. I'm just barely under 300hp with just bolt on and cams with stock heads...not to bad for 4.6 liters.
you got it sounding pretty dam good.
By far my FAVORITE mustang...I dont give a FVCKKKK what people say.
Mine too, thats why I bought an 03 GT for my first.
Looks like a newer fox
@@josiahstewart539 sameeee
Good info here for sure but some other info needs to be said especially for a new mustang owner. As far as the under drive pulley system go. don't just go get the cheapest thing out there, steeda is the only company who has a rubber insert for vibration with is a must. a solid mount will in time ruin your oil pump. Also a good short throw like MGW dose wonders for the t-45 and the TR3650. I fulling built my motor, fully forged Manley internals, +.20 over bore, over size crank, Melling billit oil pump, ect my car is a 99 but I build a tr3650 and swapped it into mine. my compression is now 10.0:1 with factory PI heads and 9.6:1 with trick flow heads to be ready for the next step F.I. she dyno 277rwhp & 311 TQ after custom tune. 4.6L love forced induction even at factory internals the down side is the crank won't hold any more then 450 FWHP and even there it's a ticking time bomb. All in all nice video and car. just wanted to help the Mustang community a bit, sorry if I stepped on your toes by throwing my 2 sinces in.
no...your right. good info.
I don't know I always have done all my own work so I don't know labor cost. Most local part stores only sell dorman intakes however American Muscle, ford and even ebay has the ford racing PI units.
I can do it in an hour. But it may take you 5 hours if turning wrenches are not your thing. Have some fuel injector O-rings handy.
I'm in tampa. but I could.
Jeremy Fish uh... the factory crank can hold upwards of 800hp as they are forged. It's rods and pistons that are junk in these cars. People do forged rods and pistons on stock crank all the time making upwards of 7-800hp
Good video really informative 👍
Nice dude im looking for a new edge xD upload more stuff ✌
Looks great
You do also have to change the MAF/MAP censor once you start removing restrictions to the intake and upper intake systems, I've noticed that once I did that they dont like to idle as well
Nice car! I got the same one
😍😍 the deep dish rim doe
Nice car. I love them rims! Every mustang needs deep dish offset wheels. Looks right. Beautiful car brother! Forget the haters talking about your pronunciation of words, you clearly know what you're talking about. My old 94 Cobra will gaptize you though ;) By the power of the snake within you have been gaptized!!!
Thanks. Yeah im no car guy (love my car) but im a race bike mechanic doing this on my pass time btw cars are easy but laboring for sure. Thanks again for your kindness
Nice presentation
My first mods with mustangs are good tires, subframe connectors, torque box reinforcements, a decent clutch, short shifter, and gears..none of these free up or add any power but will help utilize what power you already have and is a great foundation for more power later on..I guess it depends on where you live because if you pay more than $500 for parts and labor on a gear swap where I’m from you got ripped off..and to be fair the 12hp hp discrepancy on the Dorman was on a boosted car with big heads and cams..on a regular mild na car it’s more like 3-4 peak at best..it robs power but it’s mostly a placebo effect because it’s power you won’t feel...I’ll take the loss in power for the peace of mind that comes with an aluminum crossover (I am not endorsing the Dorman at all don’t take it that way 😂🤣)
I just bought an 02 gt with 100,500 miles, clean title for $3750. I love it to death and am surprised it weighs less than my eclipse! (around 3250lbs)
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I purchased a 2002 convertible 5speed zinc yellow mustang gt I had to put a new top on it (looks great) I replaced the headlamps electric window switches and panel inserts. 131,000 miles 2.5 yrs ago $2500 I now have 139,000 miles I had to repair the #3 spark plug boss bought the insert repair kit from amazon the car is lowered It has flowmaster delta 44s and sounds great.. I have a nice stereo ..Sony HU.. 1 Morel 12" sub, Polk Audio components up front all powered by the Soundstream Ref 4.920 .. I am happy :) Love the car.
what top did you go with i am in the same boat 180k miles 2000$ fuel pump was shot
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Jeff Smallwood I got my 2002 GT for $75! Raffle winner lol. Love the car like a child
if u have had a chance to compare parts on a dyno, u would know the factory air tube is actually not restrictive, it the air box and filter . 3.73 gears are a lil better for street driving and 4.10s are more for drag racing. under drive pulleys are a waste of money, some testing wont show any gains and separating the crank damper from the crank throws off the engine balance, not good for main bearing life. colder plugs shouldnt be used unless u add force induction, adding lots of compression, or u r visually verify u need colder ones. a cold plug wont cool the engine and may lead to fouling your plugs. the intake manifold to look for would be with the aluminum cross over tube. not hating on your car, actually looks nice, but giving feed back on you mid list.
Nice ride! I have a 99 GT convertible performance red ford racing lowered 4.10s full flow master 70k on it! earned a sub!
I have the same super charged
Mines dark blue white top swap motor 5.4 super charged top look a lil shot but I'll get a new one lol
Excellent
I just picked up a 02 gt 5spd with
bbk intake , exhaust, short throw shifter, suspension and rims for $1800
Car has 169k but bought to mess around for summer. First mustang I ever bought.
You got a good deal if the car wasn't trashed out
on my 04 gt, i did gears (4.10s), exhaust (cat back, cat delete), and a 93 tune. solid and very reliable. seat of the pants says it's probably a high 12 low 13 car. the tune keeps me out of trouble. the personality change happens after 4500 rpm. im told w the tune redline is 7200. i took it to 6500 once. a gang of screaming banshees rose out of my hood. the way it continues to make power towards redline is amazing
More like a hi 13 car
nice stang dude
It’s smarter to start from the back first and then make your way forward. Intake, plenum, etc. - all that extra air has nowhere to go through a restrictive factory exhaust. Those mods first might hinder you more than help you. Nice looking and sounding car though. 👍🏽
Or just buy a 1998 Mustang Cobra 🐍🐍
I had a 2v, 3v and 4v…my geared, bolt on 4v was by far my favorite and the fastest.
I currently driving a Coyote powered mustang but i still have the 2V yellow GT making 303rwhp also my wifes 08 GT 3v . I like the 2V given its in a light car, ran really good times 0-60 in 4.6 sec on the street and low to mid 12s in the 1/4. Plus it was super cheap to buy and add mods. My new Coyote GT costed alot just to buy the dam car not to mention every added mod is expensive as hell.
@@keithalexander36 very true, the 2v was cheap to buy and cheap to mod. I got a great deal on my 04 Mach 1 and it was pretty cheap to mod as well.
I would like to add that the best thing you do for those 2V motors is a long tubes headers, and a stage 2 clutch (spec clutch). they'll do wonders.
Long tube headers are a waste on money on this car unless it's supercharged. They are a pain in the ass to install and if you pay to have them done it's not cheap.
@@andye5573 lol no they're not, i gained 21 HP on a full exhaust and Accufab plenum and TB and ported heads. they are worth every penny.
@@iyadsakhta Do you really think 21 RWHP for the money you spent on all of those mods is good? A quality set of longtube headers is going to cost you over $1000. Plus at least another $300 (minimum) to have them installed. I would call that a complete waste of money for 21 hp lol. You're either delusional or full of shit if you think a clutch and longtubes are going to make a 2V GT fast. Literally everything you listed except for exhaust is a waste of money. You spent all that money on those worthless mods and you would still get spanked by a stock LS1, Mach 1, or NA Cobra.
@@andye5573 you are obviously an idiot and have a problem reading. I gained 21 HP after installing them and putting the car on a professional tune. Car had full exhaust, full suspension with lakewood products and bilisten shocks. 4:10 gears and spec stage 2 clutch. i was beating most of the new mustang GTs. but i understand it's too much information for you to comprehend at once since tiny mind it seems lol.
@@iyadsakhta How much did you spend on your longtubes to get 21 hp? It looks like you're the idiot
By the time you add up all the bolt ons you can possibly get for these cars and labor alone, it all equals to the cost of a supercharger and it still won’t make past 300hp. In my opinion just go force induction. Good video!
This is an old video... update...303hp 318tq after dyno tune on a mustang dyno... all work done myself for less then 2200 cash including dyno time. Granted alot of things purchased used on ebay like plenum and such. Runs mid 12s all day with drag radials. Great bang for the buck...yes it actually beats stock coyotes and more then a few times.. them cars are heavy turds to be honest i dont even think about lining up to them anymore if they are near stock. Amazing stock head 2v new edge can achieve so much with so little. Im by far not broke i could dump crap tons into this car but this was not my goal...its a cheap shit getter.
If you live in Florida, go see Sam at Coastal Mustang in Tampa. Stangs come from all over to get work done.
Hey man,who did the paint job.
Keith Alexander While I like your suggestions, I think taking a different approach to a 2v is a must since theses don't make any power lol. I would keep the intake stock. Trust me it's not really restrictive as much as you think, it's actually designed very well. If anything thing get rid of the paper filter and throw in an aftermarket filter. FBO are honestly a waste on a 2v. For people who aren't too savy on this generation mustang, you have to be more strategic with your mods. First things to do on a 2v is steeper gears for both manuel and automatic, and a good stall and shift kit for an auto. That'll definitely wake her up. Then suspension of course. Focus on unsprung weight, such as springs, sway bars, control arms and other suspension components as well as a good set of tires. Then for the exhaust, honestly chose a good brand of muffler of your chosing. What most people don't realize is that the factory exhaust is designed very well, including the exhaust manifolds. Even if American muscle.com says otherwise lol. But yeah my point being is to spend your money wisely when it comes to modding a new edge gt. Hope this really helps anybody
You're absolutely correct my dude lol I, myself, have an '04 GT I recently just bought a couple months ago. It's my 3rd SN95 and 2nd New Edge of the bunch and I suggest to others the same exact as you: these 2v motors really don't respond well to bolt ons. My engine bay is damn near stock.. I have a set of 3.73 gears waiting to be installed and all I've done to the car thus far is suspension work( new lower control arms, struts/shocks) and want to add some subframe connectors, which these whips desperately need. All I've done to my exhaust is cut off the rear cats and want to add some aftermarket mufflers(as u mentioned). I've already watched soo many people drops thousands of dollars on bolt ons for these cars to gain no more than 30-35 rwhp lol when you can save up a few racks and slap a good blower on the stock motor and really have some fun with it... btw, you're also spot on with the automatic tranny advice.. A J-Mod is mandatory on these things for them to shift well, even more so than a shift point/firmness tune off a handheld. A tranny oil cooler is a good idea also,, especially if you're going the high stall TC route(also not a bad mod at all; I have an Auto btw).
@@dicksteel91 As of now I sold my Gt and picked up a clean 2003 mach 1 with 116k miles for $8500! What a steal and what a big difference in power too. And as much as I want to drop thousands of $$$ it's still not even worth it honestly. The first owner(I'm the third) was building it as a drag car. Has 4.10 gears, upper control arms, subframe connectors, etc. I'm gonna still go the more smarter route by picking up where he left off. Now I can't decide between lowering springs or coilovers...? Know a good brand for under a grand? It still surprises me till this day that people still think it's a gt or even a v6 lmao. I'm gonna keep it looking as factory stock as possible, kinda like my little sleeper. Overall I'm really glad and blessed to have a mach 1
@@derekjohnson5174 that's awesome man.. Those 4v motors are great engines. The DOHC make a helluva difference over the SOHC. Mach 1s are dope, dope cars. You definitely came up. Suspension really depends on you,, Im about to drop my GT in a couple weeks on lowering springs.. Altho, coilovers are obviously a much better upgrade being adjustable and all. Not sure what brand is really the best bang for your buck tho. I'm sure the 4.10s on it really bring it to life. One thing I'd totally do if I had a Mach 1 myself is put rear window louvers on tht bitch, to really take it back to its classic look. Ofc, thats all up to personal taste haha.
@@dicksteel91 because you have an auto like me. I gotta ask how I would know if I have aftermarket gears in my car. I bought it from a dealership and it already had a ton of aftermarket on it. Only thing I replaced was an unbelievably loud and unrefined straight pipe exhaust with a American thunder system. So how would I know without taking the thing apart if someone installed gears? Again I have an auto.
@@MattB8030 www.americanmuscle.com/mustang-gear-ratio-to-rpm-chart.html
This is probably the most practical way to find out... hit the link and measure your highway RPMs while cruising at about 65mph, as it states in the article.. Be sure you're looking at the right transmission type for our cars (4R70W)
Nevermind the intake!!! Check the tork boxes and strut towers first!!
First mod... exhaust!!!
your right. i missed alot but this way just practice for my motocross vids. besides most people will assume exhaust i hope.
@@keithalexander36 how much hp
Rafael Ortiz idk man. But my 03 GT has CAI, 75 mm throttle body, x pipes, and flow master exhaust and I’ve beaten brand new v6 chargers in highway pulls. Oh it also has gears. I think gears help the most tbh.
@@rafaelortiz127 I'd say 12 to 18
Yaaaa
This is like listening to a young gearhead at a carshow tell me about his cold "ram" air intake, that's clearly in the engine compartment. Youve got ambition kid.. might want bullet points on a que card next time you shoot a vid.
I did headers, off road x pipe, cai, plenum and throttle body I felt better throttle response but not much of a big difference but once I got it tuned it really woke up so a tune is what I noticed really wakes up these 2v
Fox Crush yeah you can add bolt ons all day and won't notice, but once you get that tune...... oh boy!!
I can agree with that. The stock tune is very weak. A buddy of mine has a 02 vert and he keep adding more and more bolt ons with stock tune and Nothing much to notice in gains.One of the problems with the stock tune is it is real friendly on the timing to allow the use of not just 87 octain but low quality 87 at that. Also the stock tune has a timing delay, this hurts performance anytime you have to reapply the throttle (like power shifting). The timing delay just makes the motor feel soggy. Thankfully just about every tune removes this and this is what people mostly feel when getting a tune even on a stock set-up
keep up the good work man, your videos help a lot of people. You are very knowledgeable, and true mustang enthusiast!
Fox Crush what time did you do?
Tune* sorry
Long tube headers??
1st Mod. Atleast 3:73 gearing. Expensive but worth it
What in THE WORLD is at 9:29????????????
That is the funniest mod I have ever seen!!!
It looks like he grouped the numbers for his shift points. Pretty cool, just never seen that done.
Safe down gear speed indicator. So i dont do a money shift. When i first started driving with 4:10 gears knowing what gear to downgear into in a pinch was a thoughtful process this helped a tons. Also my rev limiter was too high 7k for a time being so i had to have the line on the RPM because i keep hitting 7k in first gear on launches. My dyno tune has the rev limiter now set at 6500rpm. Shes good
My 2000 GT (Borla Extreme Cat Back, K&N CAI, ) just jumped the timing chain. DOH Did I mention that the 4.6L 2V Ford is an "Interference motor". Meaning that when the timing chain jumps VERY BAD things happen. Only 90k miles on my DD, NOT a racecar by any means. I didn't read anything in the Ford service guide about needing a new chain/tensioners so soon. Oh well, this will give me a chance to upgrade everything.
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i have a Dorman mainly because of the huge cost difference between that and the Ford, not 1 single problem with it in the 7 years it's been on
They work great thats for sure but if you flip it over and compare the vally area to the ford racing oem unit you notice the internal volume is greatly reduced and even redesigned on the Dorman. On a bone stock motor they are fine.
You didn’t mention long tube headers! On my car that was an amazing addition that was good for 14 HP at the wheels. I do t have cams yet but I’m at 282 with everything else. I am looking at the comp stage 3 and figure that should put over 300 at the wheels. Then I will add the 3.73 gears to compensate for the loss in low end torque for the stage 3 cams. Hopefully I can see mid 12’s at least!
I have added long tube headers and a few more things since that video. Making 303hp at 5800rpm at the moment. I still wouldn't recommend long tubes as a bolt on for the average kid. Had to drop the K member to install them. Was a big job. Only added 8hp to my car but I was already making 290ish before I installed them.
started with a 99 v6 and got a 2001 gt wow what a difference but now i want a 3v
No you don't want a 3v. I have a 2008 GT as well and this yellow new edge walks all over it with just 303rwhp....the s197 mustangs that came with the 3v weight more, more problemsom, don't make but 40hp more and the extra weight off sets that. They are not very fast at all.
@@keithalexander36 Damn foreals? i keep hearing that theyre power is very reducted
An 03 mustang gt was my first fast car lmao...REGERTS!!!.. then got an 04 cobra was decent now I have a c6 zo6 with lsx f1x procharged 1000+rwph now game over...
I think your missing the whole point. I have a modified Gen 4 ZX10 that flirts with 200 plus mph and makes waste of any car but that's not the point. The point is every vehicle has its class and should be appreciated for that considering the cost and effort. At our local motocross track we don't race 125cc bikes in the 450 class but nothing is better then watching the 125s banging bars. As I stated in my other video the 2v new edge is the best bang for the buck. I have a nice clean car that runs 12s in the 1/4 with a total of $8500 cash invested. I bought this to keep the miles off my truck but decided on adding a few mods to give it some theater and it has been fun and I enjoy driving it. Speed is all about money, how much do you have invested in your z06 and then we can find something we can compare it too and please tell me your not a douchebag yuppie that pays someone to do all their own work and if that's the case the tuner/mechanic receives the credit not the owner IMO. Man I feel like I'm back in high school again this is great.
Keith Alexander lol I'm not a douche bag I can relate to what I first started with I love mustangs just everyone an there mom got one in the small town I live in so I wanted to change it up by getting a c5 zo6 that' was ok then got c6 zo6 then made really big power on dyno an yes this car I payed my friend outta jms to do my tune most of work me an my friend do but it's ridiculous expensive but yea i wouldn't go pick on a 2v mustang to race an kid not know a thing that would be a dick head lol
Keith Alexander an my mustang was not no.where near in good condition like yours is i shoulda stated that seats were all torn cause I got it off a lot where they impound cars....
I'd do 4.10s, 3.73 isn't much of a difference on the highway and not worth the money if you're doing it for performance. A good intake, exhaust and throttle body with tune will get you a solid 300 at the crank with 93 pump gas. These cars can crack 13 seconds if you got all that with good tires.
Hey Keith, I recently bought a 2000 mustang gt. I’m havin some issues with it right now and also would just like some advice on how to build this engine. Any point in the right direction would be a great help. Thank you
3.27's gears top 3 favorite thing about my 99 COBRA 3.73 or 4.10's are good for 1 thing 1/4 miles everything else gonna be just shit.... real racing not that sissy 1/4 bull shit that 155mph + racing youll love that OP 4th gear... i always see hate on this and can never understand it... also being able to go 100 on freeway at 2300 rpm's motor just purring is so underrated ... BEST PART ITS FREE SAVE THAT MONEY ON GAS + LONGER ENGINE LIFE
I have a early 01 and it has a windor and a t45
nice car. dig yellow
I was right there until you said plenium
Even with treymic? Lmao
I am SOOOOOO glad I didn't have to mention this along with his E-Bach suspension
Hi...I have some questions regarding the cams in that bad boy, what is the duration and lift?, also, does these cams fit in a stock engine with no piston to valve clearance issues?..Did you need to use different valve springs with those cams?...Lastly, is the engine equipped with long or short tube headers?
Hey man I just bought a 2000 mustang GT. So far it's got a k&n CAI, my a c compressor had to get replaced and a stage 2 racing clutch. Where can I send u a pick of my intake to make sure it's good. I'm still learning about cars
soooooo what is the cheapest/most reliable way to get 420whp? a 5.4 sohc swap? with a cam? a rear mount turbo? a blower?
I've watched serveral videos on dyno runs though not on a mustang but 2 on a crown vic and it showed no where near a 12hp loss. I looked at summit which sells dorman intakes all good reviews until one guy said he lost 32hp(32hp come on now ) compared to a Ford performance OEM intake. I do almost all my ordering from American Muscle now I haven't spoke to them about this issue but I don't buy used parts I buy top name top quality performance parts and I use LMR sometimes. The Ford PI intake is in like the 250-260 range new well there was aftermarket not plastic ones for a 150-200 dollars more but I want one that I can still run my 73mm bbk throttle body and plenum on. I'd love to get a trick plow but over $800 is a lil steep for me. Now I believe u when u said the runner design is nicer on the Ford PI intake but. Everybody has opinions on the dorman vs Ford PI that I believe are over exaggerated. A dyno run from a shop with a dorman vs PI would make me a total believer, but as of right now I've seen no dyno charts from the guy who says he lost 32hp and I don't beilieve u have a dyno chart showing the 12hp gain. Seems like it's a battle back and forth with no dyno results to prove it. If it does push out 12 more I'd buy it right now even though its plastic but u kinda got give me more concrete evidence to back your claims on offense
Eric Swink after putting full boltons on my car, custom cams, bigger injectors, etc. My car only made 270rwhp and 280tq. After all that money spent on all those modifications and tuning, the car just felt like a complete turd. It felt seriously underpowered and I couldn't figure out why. I was really disappointed but I knew that car had more potential but something was definitely holding it back. After doing much research and trying to get to the bottom of all this. I ended up figuring out that my car had a Dorman and I had no idea. I was a little sceptical reading about different opinions about how restrictive the Dormans are and such. So I decided to try and test it for myself. I got a Ford PI unit took it to my tuner. He installed it, put it on the Dyno and it picked up 10rwhp on the installation alone. He did a retune with the new Ford manifold and it picked up an additional 10rwhp. That put my car at 290rwhp and 300tq. Picked up a solid 20rwhp and 20lbft torque. I test drove it and it was a complete different animal. Pulls like a runaway freight train now, I kid you not. Whoever is running a dorman on any mustang, my honest advice is to ditch it ASAP! Cause its costing you some serious hp and torque.
Eric Swink the only ford pi intake that is offered comes with the aluminum crossover..this guy has a first gen pi intake
Jonathan Vazquez You saw that drastic of a change due to the camshaft change and a tune..on stock cams the intakes power discrepancy is only about 3-4 PEAK hp at best (with no tune)
I know this is an old video, but quick question about the under drive pulleys! I have a npi block from a 94 marquis, but heads off an 02 mustang gt. I’m still assembling the engine on a stand, but what under drive pulleys would I get then? The 96-00 style?
how is that C&L? any noticeable difference than lets say a bbk one piece?
On my gt i have midpipe and slp exhaust with pulleys coldair intake 5 speed 5.0 shifter
Any advice on where to find a clean one? im considering looking for one next year to supplement my project car (65 Fastback with 32v). here in the uk theres cars are few and far between. plenty of S197's and s550 these days but not many New Edge cars, especially coupes. So id have to import one, any advice on finding a clean one??
hi I have a question I have a 07 crown victoria p71 same engine do you know what causes a poping in the exhaust in park only but when you turn on the air/heat controls it doesn't pop
Am I the only one with an aluminum intake manifold on my SN95?! The plastic is fragile junk. My intake is strong and flows like crazy. Plus you get that deep tone from the air flow
Is it all aluminum, where did you get one?
Mine is aluminum. Everything BBK I have aftermarket intake plenum, throttle body, cold air intake, flowmaster American thunder catback with h pipe.
@@MattB8030 I believe you're talking about the bbk plenum with tbody together that isnt the intake manifold it is below that it's what that bbk feeds into. Trickflow makes an all aluminum intake and the bullet intake is and the foxlake p51 intake not sure if these are any more out there or not for the 2v
Dumb question, but how did you notice detention at high rpms once you did the cam swap??
Great video just one question, why did you go stage 1 cam instead of stage 2? If I'm not mistaken you don't have to make modifications until you get stage 3 cams ( better valve springs etc.)....about to get started on my 99 mustang just wanted to know
the stage 1 cam will yield more power across a broader range if your keeping the stock heads. one thing i learned along time ago is bigger is not always better, its more about properly matching components. Ever see that guy with the chevy small block lumping like crazy at an idle but soon as he hits the gas all it does is make alot of noise? thats what happens when you over select a camshaft. the stage 1 cam is already pretty stout for such a small motor. Camshafts do make more power but really your camshaft choice should by where you want your power to be made. in this case my motor runs come on around 4500rpm and i shift at 6500rpm. good example is going with a stage 3 would put the cam way out of the working range of the stock heads and will just make the motor run soggy as a whole. On stock builds the stage 1 has been a proven cam. check out my other vids of it running...its ok for what it is. make sure on the Windsor motor you order cam gears, bolts and spacers.
I have a 98' Roush Stage 2 4.6L Mustang GT. Is there any CZcams videos out there?
hey guys go 4.30 gears you will never 2nd guess it I am modding a cvpi with rebuilt rear tru traclock diff you wanta take out some ls1s 4.30 will help get it done I almost did 3.73 and glade I didn't go all in or not at all
The ONLY things you want to change in search of HP is the Intake, exhaust, cams, and intake manifold.. Changing the PLENUM is a waste of money if you aren't going to go the route of forced induction.. Gearing is nice if you're building a track dedicated car but not really needed for a street car.. Other than that you can free up about 10hp by changing all of your fluids to Royal Purple but that is rather pricey.. Then other than that adding a really good tune will help give some noticable power gains.. Other than that you really don't need to do much else except for maybe suspension work to help get it to stick to the track a little better and launch a lot better
The stock plenum will not get you past 280rwhp. You right on a relatively stock motor the stock plenum is ok but in order to crank out 312rwhp as i am (old video btw) you will need to toss the oem plenum. We have found out C&L gives the most consistent performance on a NA motor. I tried 3 plenums and the stock is like a restrctor plate on a full built NA motor.
If u had a 2002 gt and couldnt afford to rebulid what vehicle will u get the engine out off
99-early 01 have the Windsor with the t-46 trans and 01(late)-04 have the Romeo with the Tremec 3650 trans. You mentioned both trans come in the early 01 and they don’t. You’re also missing the he alt bracket that goes on the intake manifold and looks like you don’t have the updated one anyways.
T-45..this is the updated intake with the same alt bracket..the 99-01 mustang gts came with a pi intake with plastic crossovers and that is what he has here
Fucking nice man,I have a friend with almost the same exact mods on his 03,but he has the Romeo motor,same color and everything on the car lol
nice hows it run...i got this pig pulling to 6500rpm.. stock it would cork up at 5700
Keith Alexander oh man it was running great,except for the fact that he blew it up not too long after he did the cams and injectors because he didn't get it tuned! I kept telling him "man you need to ditch that stock tune and get real power out of it" and to baby it until he did,but he got excited and blew it,I don't remember exactly what he blew,it was a while back,but it was pretty detrimental..I believe he replaced the motor,or possibly just the top end idk but he had it around last time I saw him,they're awesome cars and he's not giving up on it.....anyways hey man what state are you in,I'm about to get about 5 grand to put towards a mustang and am looking for some good leads,know anyone in texas?
Also do u have the back to back runs u mentioned so I can watch that also. Maybe that will make me a total believer. These dorman intakes are on many reputable sites. I find it hard to believe sooo many people would buy these and so many companies would sell these when they rob hp. Finally question do u know off an aftermarket company that makes a none plastic one that I could still bolt my bbk throttle body and plenum on. That is in a descent price range. I see most recommended cam upgrade while upgrading your intake manifold but lack of money would put a cam outta the question right now.thanks for any help buddy
just holding the dorman and a PI intake and comparing is all you will need to be a believer. go check them out yourself. Dorman sucks nuff said lol
s189.photobucket.com/user/Kahuna9889/media/IMAG0758.jpg.html check out the visual difference pi vs dorman
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the 02-04 mustangs also have a TR-3650 btw
Mid year 01 started the TR-3650. I have one...Google it its easy.
@@keithalexander36 My bad rewatched the wording was a little weird, thought you said the 01-04 came with a T-45
What is your suspension setup?
Nice where can i thar cluster from thats nice good white cluster can see everything
What are those wheels? Specs on them, sizes?
What gives mustangs thier unique exhaust note? Does the romeo motor sound different than the Winsor?
The Romeo and the Windsor are the same and sound the same..his car sounds different because he has stage 1 cams in it
plenium lol.....its PLENUM
first comment i read 5 seconds in.....hit's back button
Ohh ohh the grammar police are here.
whats the blue pullys u got on there looking for the name of em its says cam on crank pully
How do I find out if I have an early or a later 2001 GT? Great video. Thank you
everyday'80sdude did you ever find out ?
99-01 is earlier......2002-2004 is later
what are these 50$ throttle bodies called?? I got a 4.6 on an f150, I think it might be the same part
Where you get that blue pulley for that supercharger😉
I got a dorman 615 175 intake manifold took it off a 2002 mustang gt. Do you know if this is for PI heads because ive read that it is but your is different from the one i baight
How much did to cost for the cam install?
What about your injector leave them stock?
your smart....
what blue pulleys are you using
Alexander if you don't mind me asking what part of Florida are you from? I live in around orange Beach Alabama.
tampa florida
Keith Alexander ok was hoping you lived in Pensacola. was gonna see who done your cams.
+tobroke2007 i did then myself...not too difficult but does take about 6 hours
I did 78 mm thotllebody ford racing intake .slp loud mouth upr xpipe
how can I get in contact with you to ask you some additional information
how can you tell between the 01 motors?
a treYmec 5 speed lol
Sean Ritter and PlenYum lol
And an BOG warner lol