Using A Hand Press Machine to Punch Leather Stitching Holes?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Buy this Leather Hole Puncher Machine here: amzn.to/31yNFNb . If it is sold out there should be other similar models on Amazon, Ebay, or Aliexpress. I cant imagine only one company makes this type of tool.
In this video we do an experiment comparing punching stitching holes by hand vs using one of these hand press machines that are retrofitted as "leather hole punchers". The main selling point of this tool is that is very quiet to operate. If you live in an apartment or place where you cant be constantly making noise punching holes this is a great alternative. It will also work great for people with medical conditions that are aggravated by repetitive motion stress (tendonitis, arthritis, etc).
Please do not try to operate this press the way I did in this video. You must secure to to your work bench first. Also make sure to tape down the punching pad so it doesnt shift around and make sure the handle is level.
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Yes I am aware I am cranking incorrectly. I had to operate from the back not to block the camera. 😀🎥
It really does need to be bolted down first before serious usage though.
Makesupply Leather This is a great idea, if you have a drill press you can use your stitching chisels the same way, by inserting into the drill press chuck.👍
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I think when you get to corners, just mark them manually and continue on the straights, then you can come back with 2 prong and finish them off...
Yeah I was thinking that too :)
I agree
*Works perfectly for my use as a heated press **MyBest.Tools** Space between the ram jack and the base is a little tight. Make sure you set the ram jack arm so that it's in a position for you to get maximum leverage on whatever you're pressing. You may have to unbolt the front plate of the press and realign the ram in the teeth so that the arm is not at an awkward angle when fully cranked down.Other than aligning the ram in the teeth with the crank arm this .5 ton arbor press comes out of the box pretty much ready to use.*
I think this would be great for someone in an apartment or wanting to work while their house is sleeping so it quite. I know I hate working night shift and coming home with energy, motivation and cant hammer away
That EXACTLY what I thought as soon as I heard it. I have an art studio inside of an apartment building with thin walls and hammering after 8pm just seems super rude. This look absolutely perfect for that.
My old neighbors would have much rather I owned this at the time!
This was my thought too. I’m a night owl and I live in an apartment. I’m always hindered in my leather projects by needing to do my hammering during the day.
@@dawgyv72 have a look on amazon or aliexpress for "leather stitching pliers", it's a kind of lesser known tool I think. I ordered a set because I have a similar issue. I work during the day and can only do leather work at night so they should solve the problem, worth a look if noise in an issue.
Exactly why I am researching my options. I am in a condo connected to my neighbors and they tend to go to bed around 9pm. I usually don't sleep until midnight or 1am myself so I have a lot of wasted time I could be working on orders and side projects.
My hands have started to hurt after using the mallet & chisel to punch leather, so I haven't done it in a while. I was really interested after running across this video and bought a cheaper version of this to try out. I definitely want to upgrade to the better version, but am really loving the ease of use that this style of punching allows. I use a single 1mm hole punch, not a chisel-tip, over a paper template, which makes a very nice stitching line for thicker thread. To speed the process, I found that by closing the space between the punch and the leather to 1/4 inch or less made it easy to quickly line up the hole, punch, align, punch, align, punch, align, punch, etc., at about the speed it takes to read. It's made leatherworking fun again! Thanks so much for sharing.
Edit - someone asked where to find a 1mm hole punch - I found mine as part of a set on amazon. Good luck and have fun!
Im making my goods in apartment. Sometimes, punching holes makes a lot of noise so i choose this press.
I love this thing. Ordered it and have been using it exclusively ever since. It’s fantastic when it’s bolted down
I think the press has lots of advantages... consistent straight punched holes, quiet - no more banging and accuracy. I find that when hand punching the holes it only takes a very slight angle variation to get the back holes out of line. I personally wouldn't use the 2 prong punch in the press and would do those corners manually but if you do want to change then I'm sure using the chuck key isn't necessary and hand tight would be enough. The only other way to get consistent holes on both sides would be to use pricking pliers.
This is also great for people with mobility problems, arthritis, carpal tunnel or RSS, rotator cuff issues, tennis elbow, etc.
Also people who live in apartments!
I have already opted for a similar setup for arthritis and hand pain issues. I also like my neighbours, so the quiet operation is a plus for us both.
I am using a 1 ton arbor press that also takes all my tools. It came with hole and screw all preinstalled. The big pro is it goes through 3 layers of the thickest leather like nothing, and looks perfect. And - I live in a flat and have to keep the hammering to a minimum. The press also sets rivets, buttons, cuts out any shapes, punches all my holes, stamps my leather etc. It is my ONE tool.
Sounds like a great tool. May i ask the make and model of your press?
@@Elbowjom I don't actually know the model my guess is it's Chinese a rebuild of an old German model. Got it off eBay. It's black with big red numbers on it, very distinctive. Mine is No 1. The larger they get, the higher the number.
Hello, is it possible to tell if you can put all the accessories on an arbor press ? Can you buy them separately and if so what did you buy please . Thanks
@oharu700 I just bought different sets of leather tools off of ebay. They all fit into the hole, some I wrapped with tape
I've just started leatherworking, and am having real trouble getting straight lines on the reverse side of the leather. Add to that the noise I'm making in an upstairs flat......Might have to seriously consider getting one of these.....
I think another benefit, (besides the quietness) is that punching holes through really thick leather might come out straighter, I tend to get less vertical the thicker the leather is, I can also see the down side of have this extra machine that takes up space, and to be used effectively I think it's made to be screwed down to the table
Swapping out the tools is definitely gonna be a PITA. I'm thinking maybe just use it for the straight runs and manually pop in the few holes for the corners. You could even cut a groove on both sides without having to worry about missing the groove on the inside.
Thank you for this video. I purchased an upgraded version of this same machine with heating elements, so I have an option to hot brand leather or do gold foil and have a chuck drill installed when working with pricking irons. I had issues with the machine being unstable and didn't have the luxury of destroying my desk by permanently securing it to it because my apartment is too small, but I secured it to a cheap meat-cutting wooden board with a greater surface that I simply put on the table when working with it. Now here comes another problem with this tool - it comes with a very low-quality drill chuck so I replaced it with a self-securing drill chuck. No other tools are needed and it's quicker to replace different tools. There is a third problem as well and that is - working with non-round tools like many pricking irons are. Drill chuck will simply not hold it properly, it will go sideways, and next to doing bad work you can also destroy your tools. I overcame this by buying an industrial rubber foot (the standard one for furniture is not strong enough for this) with installed M10 or M12 bolts. I simply put it in the drill chuck and manually hold the pricking iron with my left hand while pressing with my right hand. This is not an out-of-the-box solution but it is easy and cheap to upgrade it by yourself with just a little bit of effort and for just a little bit of money get a machine that really makes difference.
I use an $80 table top drill press when I need to work quietly. It does the same thing but can also be used to drill holes, Use as a drum sander or burnisher.
Hello! I've tried with a drill press but it doesn't work. How did you done it?
you need to remove the ball off the handle, go to a hardware store and buy a 24'' long 1/2'' steel pipe
insert the handle into the pipe and it will give you leverage . pick up a 2x6 board and a few bolts along with a 6'' clamp. screw the machine to the 2x6 and now you can use the clamp to secure it to the table with out putting holes in it.
I think it would be more useful for thicker projects especially with multiple layers to insure that it goes perfectly straight up and down. For thinner projects where it isn't much of a problem to make your holes perpendicular, I think I'd stick to my maul. Great video, thanks.
Yeah someone mentioned knife sheaths for me that sounds like a great application.
I wouldn't swap to the 2 prong, that can be done manually
Or we can just mark it and continue with the 6 prong and do the corners at the end, its a great tool for quiet places
@@vicvondark or he could just buy two press machines, one with 2 one with 6....
I don't use my press for small stuff, but punching along the sides of a guitar strap it's brilliant for stiching holes. Made oak "rails" on the plastic board that came with it as a kind of jig for consistent distance from the edge
A jig! Great idea! Consistent spacing and time saver!
I had just ordered one and it was sent back because the carrier damaged it in transit. Looks like I'll be reordering one, it looks really useful
While I'm a traditionalist when it comes to many things, I can see the value in a product like this under certain circumstances. I'm a night owl and my wife prefers to go to bed early. I'm limited in what I can do while she is sleeping, so something like this would come in handy during those times. Other than that, I like throwing a hammer down on chisels, so it's definitely not something I'd use exclusively. One other note, you can adjust the handle throw so you don't have as much arm motion.
I'm convinced. I need one. Ordering as soon as I'm done with this video.
Im definitely getting one just for my round edge tools. Every time i go through multiple layers it moves and doesnt cut the round corner on the bottom layer. This should take care of that
Thanks for showing us your thoughts on it. I was surprised that you didn't start from the center and work outwards, also that you didn't have it clamped to something. Since you do have it, I hope you find more good uses for it.
If anyone didn't already offer this, try only making dimples with your two-prong, by hand. Whenever you get to the straight part again, put it back under the press. Once all your straight stretches are done, you can switch to the two prong, one time, and do all the corners and difficult parts.
Thanks for this review haven't been crafting bec I know people will be at home all day. And walls are not too thick for the noise. I prefer traditional mallet but I want to find a way to continue with this craft without being annoying to neighbors. Thank you. This is helpful atleast after 9months since March... I get to craft again
Also could have 3 pre setup next to eachother with a 5 a 2 and a 1 or whatever combo.. Then no need to switch out anything and can just step over when needed
I have a Tandy Craftool hand press (the pretty less expensive red one) which I got for Mother's Day last year, and I have been using it to punch holes ever since the awesome and knowledgable staff at Tandy pointed out that I could do so with the Diamond Chisel Press Die and the Craftool Diamond Hole chisel set, which I had already bought sometime earlier. It makes all the stitching holes that I need noiselessly and saves my shoulder. I have adapted the small circular cutting board that comes with the die set by taping small discs of leather on it to make punching the holes easier and to protect the tips. I have also used my hand press for stamping, setting rivets, and snaps with the dies from Tandy. They do cost more than generic dies, but they are top quality and I have a feeling that Tandy will stand behind their products if they should break. The main disadvantage of the Tandy hand press is that it does not work with other less expensive generic dies.
I bought this to replace the arbor press. I love it. With the arbor press, I was searching for attachments, rolled steel - great for stamping. IMO, this is way more useful. Bought an electric branding iron for stamping and this does the rest.
Why? how is it different to an arbor press?
This seems such a great tool which would enhance the appearance quality of the item, i have problem in punching when sometimes i don’t perfectly punch the wholes 100% vertically so after all this small tiny issue affects the end result, i would love to know your feedback after long time you spend it with that tool.
Thank you in advance for your helpful content ❤
Just started and I have downstairs neighbors. I don't want to hammer punch stitching holes any more so I don't bug them. This type of tool looks like a good alternative unless I just go straight to a diamond awl.
I'm going to try this with my 1T arbor press and heavy duty magnet
Thats what im trying. I bought a 1/2in drill chuck to see if i can make the chisel more stable...
I tried it already. My results were not good. Good luck to you
@@Augcliffe - I actually own KS blades and they dont work with magnets haha
@@jeremygonzalez8382 - Let me know how the drill chuck works for you.
now i can do it with one hand paralyzed
Good informative video. Thank you. I normally just use pricking irons. However, I can see the advantage of this machine. Most people will buy it knowing they have to change irons on corners, or just do them by hand and continue with the machine for the main body. Clamped down properly and standing in front of the machine using it correctly, I can definitely see advantages to using this. And of course the noise is another consideration. Professional leather workers probably wouldn't like it and doing lots of work they would use a sewing machine so punching holes wouldn't be required at all.
Got the same unit , I moved the handle around , drilled a hole in the square arm that holds the chuck where there was just a short throw to the material and put a removable pin in for a stop ( at this time the same drill bit :) ) .
A much cheaper alternative are hand punches/pliers that you can buy anywhere between 15 to 50 bucks. Much quicker and easier to use than a press, but the press can use any tool you put in the chuck.
But punch pliers can only be used for stitching holes. You can use the press for almost all the work you would use a hammer for. Including cutting out shapes and such.
You have a bolt on each side of the ram, they are a "Positive Stop". The handle should stop at parallel to the table for max. leverage. Move the head up or down on the post for depth of punch. A punch pad similar to tire rubber duct taped to the base plate. A guide bar of 1/8 thick by 1" wide Steel with adjustment slots at each end to set distance from punch to edge of work peace. Drill and tap 1/4 x 20 the base plate for the guide bar. A flat metal plate over the guide bar located very near the stitch chisel to hold down the leather when lifting the chisel. This too will be bolted down and shimmed to proper height for your work peace. Do as much as possible with out changing tools. This will also work for round punches but with a stripper plat with a hole. Think about the time spent lining up the punch, pick up the hammer, bash the punch, put down the hammer, pry the punch out of the leather, repeat. The press is very efficient way to work.
As an aside, you'd see comparable speeds to hand punching if you had grouped the number of holes to be punched to minimize tool changes. Mark the holes on the corners with the two prong iron, but use the six prong to make the majority of the holes before swapping over. As others had said, the hand press gives consistent results (and in thicker leather) for quietly punching a lot of holes, but is also useful for setting leather hardware and studs, cutting belt/strap points, wet-forming and stamping. When properly secured to a bench, of course. 😊
Yes if I were to ever do another project like that I would mark them out as suggested. Someone mentioned they used this to do knife sheaths and that sounds like a great idea for accuracy.
thanks for this response, very practical. I was wondering myself how to get round that.
Attach the press to a sturdy board then clamp the board to the bench where needed.
I could easily configure a step actuated system for that press (more permanently mounted) freeing up your hands.
If you are leatherworking out of an apartment...this method will keep your neighbors happy. If you are pre-planning your stich-holes in your patterns, you will not need to swap out irons as much.
I bought the Jvedo hand press machine and achieved the same function as same as the video. And at an impressive price.
I think one solution to changing out the tools would be to manually mark the corners using a 2 prong and then keep going with the 4-6 prong and only at the end switch the to the 2 prong and go over the markings
I am sure it would be easy to swap the chuck with a keyless chuck and save loosing or picking up the key every time....thanks for the video i am getting one.
Thanks I just bought one of these. It's gonna be a great help.
You could just leave the six prong iron in the press and work the corners by hand, it would be a lot faster.
It would be great to have two and set one up for rivets and one for dura dots for speed production. A business could have several lined up with various tools.
A One Ton arbour press with keyless Drill Chuck fitted Ram, will be better, i think
Wow, this is a terrific solution for apartment dwellers and thanks for the review. I wonder, will the chuck accept Sinabrok irons?
Michael Yap there are different sizes of chucks out there.. sina broks fits inside the big ones..
Looks like they pulled a switcheroo on the Amazon listing. Found a few items on AliExpress but shipping is around $70-something.
A possible solution looking for a problem.... But innovation is cool. We all use a press for snaps and rivets. I saw a punching machine recently that move the leather forward like a sewing machine. I have used my heavy duty machine to punch holes before. It was really fast.
These work great with a keyless chuck, bolted down and correctly adjusted closer to your material😎
as someone in a apartment this is game changing.
Did you end up buying one and how did it turn out for you I would really appreciate a response I'm looking to buy one of these I live in an apartment
Quicker by hand for sure. Maybe faster if you lower the fork closer to the leather, then you don't have so far to travel.
you made the 2 prong look dramatic lol. but I never used one. im getting mines soon
You would only have to change once if you would mark your corners and come back to them .
Yeah, bolting or clamping the entire machine to your workbench is key.
How has your experience been with the main shaft? I bought a very similar tool (the only difference is the color, I think), but after some use the main shaft started to bend. It even came off once, even though I tightened the bolt. My feeling is that the metal is made of cheap grade. Otherwise, I found the the machine better at churning out straighter lines than my bare hands. Thx for the video mate
Clever little tool there. To speed it up a little, wax the pricking iron or what I do is use the thick steel ruler from my combo square laid parallel to the pricking iron to hold the work piece flat while removing the pricking iron, this helps a lot when working with really soft stuff like lamb skin.
As far as speeding it up goes, think of it like a drill press, raise the work up closer to the pricking iron to shorten the travel of the lever.
Also, just mount the thing to a piece of wood and clamp it to your work surface to eliminate the commitment of a permanent place for the tool.
That thing is useless if not solidly mounted.
Down a straight line you should be able to move faster than if you used a mallet. This should make up for the time taken to switch out the tools and as we agree it is much quieter than the mallet and a lot easier on your hands.
Another benefit may be that the tool is always at 90 degrees more uniform and no time spent on lining up the angle. Just run the piece through like would be done on a sewing machine.
Thanks for bringing this gadget to our attention, I see many potential uses for it.
For something that small I would have never changed out the chuck the two-pronged chuck was more than enough once you get into rhythm be fast as hell.
I 1-ton arbor press mounted on a higher surface (to see better when punching) has more torque.
I live in a flat (2nd floor) and use on of these to keep the hammering down...😊
I think the normal way it's easier and faster than this way
But this ensures that the hole is plumb, and it’s silent.
get a tabletop drill press by wen... cheap and you also have a drill press when needed
I guess it helps keep it straight I hit through multiple layers wonky at times
I've used my press for almost everything including punching holes and it works great ! I also made a guide to punch without lines at 2 mm 4 mm 6 mm along with glue it comes out great but i do the long runs first then the corners so your not changing tools like you did and with the guide i only overlap 1 hole ! Whats the thickness of that leather , i'm looking for thin stuff like that ?
Was it set up correctly? You seemed to have to pull the handle so much in terms of travel. The handle can be adjusted to put it in a position to give you leverage pulling down. Looked like you were going round and then up again with the handle. Shame because it’s got a lot of potential imo! I thought about doing this in a moment of bed inspiration and I think it’s got the potential to change the game for stitching!!
This could be ideal for longer straight runs and thicker leather.
Have you tried it for ready rivets and snaps? I have a cheapo harbor freight press that I drilled the shaft to hold tools (never thought of the drill chuck). Snaps and ready rivets are its prime use.. These require a nice even squish or you get a mess
First, you have clump the drill press that it doesn't move and with the double-sided tape fixed the acrylic plate over the metal one, then you need to adjust the height of the drill head that Pressing position is the most powerful. Does the drill chuck is big enough to hold the square head of the 8-10 teeth pricking Iron? The price is a little higher. such drill press costs less than 80$ in the hardware store
Yes it absolutely needs to be set in place before serious usage.
To be honest i think it would be easier just chisel and hammer... because its then the hassle of changing tools every 5 minutes when you come to a corner.. to reduce holes, but as iv read the comments.. to stay positive it is good for apartments and those that don't want to keep wacking a hammer all-day its smooth hole punch x
I got a keyless chuck, which makes life easier.
The best idea
And with 2 machines you can have the big and small hole puncher so u dont have to change :D
I wonder if I can use one of these to seat frets.
Good quality
Nice sailor jerry eagle 🙏🏽
If you are worried about noise an awl is pretty quiet 😁
I have a small drill press about the same size, do you think I could use that instead of buying that?
How large is the punch plate you showed underneath? U think is strong enough to use with a clicker press for a die set?
if you use a sds drillmachine mount a sds drill head for quick change
just leave the corners and use the mallets on it later after the straight edge.
OK a couple of things. I just bought one and it is a lot, lot faster. It needs to be secured, you need to face the machine while operating it. On the corners I would not and now don't, change out the 2 pin punch. do the corners by hand. I have to give the little machine high praises for speed nd uniformity.
Thanks so much for the review man, I just bought it too lol!
I've got the same situation: roommates. And I find myself waiting to do leatherwork only when I'm alone. Any cons you've discovered while using it?
Is the column a tube or solid bar?
Hello, Whats the maximum Stroke i can get out of this Press? (I need at least 2.5" )
Couldn't you do all the corners first then do the straight lines?
Good video.
O we have a load of drill presses unsold, who ever comes up with an idea gets a extra bowl of rice 😊
but how if using pricking iron with flat handle instead of round handle, can it be hold on that tools?
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It s usfel with diamant, but is it usfel with Hol punch Hollow driling tools ?
Can it use to install eyelet?
Can you also use some of the cutting dies
Press mounted easier and maybe if u Mark the stitch line first corners included, the u can do all the straights first then swap for the 2 prong for all the corners. Oh and they sell same thing on a Japanese site for usd 165 that has a bigger base and some attachments that make sense. Leathercrafttools.com under presses or stamping tools
I like the corner idea
Change out the Chuck for a keyless
Where do you purchased the drill press bits for leather crafting since they have to fit chuck? I have looked and can't seem to find them? Please advise.
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Hot glue thin textured rubber mat to base bottom to keep the entire assembly from slipping around.
Did you get this machine and how did it turn out for you worth buying or is it a pass.
Do you know what size the drill chuck is by chance?
Mark the two prong and do them at the end
What kind of leather and thickness is that? I like the look