World Record Progression: Pokemon Red/Blue speedruns

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  • @bentoomet8805
    @bentoomet8805 Před 3 lety +5273

    Imagine your son tells you he’s leaving to become the Pokémon champion and he’s back for lunch.

  • @DStecks
    @DStecks Před 4 lety +8326

    I absolutely love that the Pokemon speedrun strategy is exactly the same strategy you employed as a 7-year old: just use your starter for every fight

    • @jongledringen474
      @jongledringen474 Před 3 lety +234

      Did...did you watch the video?

    • @BobblyTubber
      @BobblyTubber Před 3 lety +23

      Pomemon lol

    • @pondscum9363
      @pondscum9363 Před 3 lety +44

      @calypso no, that's the 8th gen meta

    • @senorlechuga8832
      @senorlechuga8832 Před 3 lety +63

      @@pondscum9363 Nah the meta for 8th gen is Dynamax. It's the win button

    • @15r52
      @15r52 Před 3 lety +126

      @@senorlechuga8832 gen 8 is straight garbage

  • @ariamentio
    @ariamentio Před 4 lety +4872

    “The chat had no idea what was going on”
    the chat: “I found cocaine in my dorm last year lol”

    • @jasperhughes2399
      @jasperhughes2399 Před 4 lety +122

      That’s nothing I found my parents bodies in my room last month

    • @Tuberex
      @Tuberex Před 4 lety +93

      Timestamp: 22:45

    • @dah5839
      @dah5839 Před 4 lety +11

      @@jasperhughes2399 Are you Yuno Gasai?

    • @kie_ke_boe
      @kie_ke_boe Před 4 lety +9

      I should have hid it beter

    • @paul_warner
      @paul_warner Před 3 lety +36

      @@jasperhughes2399 dude I found my severed c*ck and b*lls in my lunchbox yesterday

  • @shadooper
    @shadooper Před 4 lety +2985

    The fact any of these can be "glitchless" is hilarious considering how broken these games were.

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 Před 4 lety +129

      Yeah, like when Nidoking abuses the X Accuracy exploit.

    • @TheCandoRailfan
      @TheCandoRailfan Před 3 lety +47

      "Glitchless" means "glitchless". There is a separate glitch category.

    • @caritahearts2405
      @caritahearts2405 Před 3 lety +192

      It’s not a glitch, it’s a feature

    • @kasyu1101
      @kasyu1101 Před 3 lety +82

      @@TheCandoRailfan not really. red bar and bike text skip are both glitches.

    • @TheCandoRailfan
      @TheCandoRailfan Před 3 lety +132

      @@kasyu1101 Bike text skip is a glitch, red bar isn't.

  • @johnsimon8457
    @johnsimon8457 Před 5 lety +6733

    That bike text skip - game assumes you to buy a bike and glitches when you don’t.
    Pokémon RB is held together with duct tape and wishful thinking.

    • @KnuxMaster368
      @KnuxMaster368 Před 5 lety +162

      At least the English versions.
      The Japanese Blue version is quite solid.

    • @ricbradley5323
      @ricbradley5323 Před 5 lety +254

      I remember both clearly. Yellow changed my world because "pikachu " could talk lmao

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox Před 5 lety +103

      Patsy Patarchy amazing. Maybe. As long as you don‘t consider the inhumane hours the devs had to pull for that.

    • @rageldith9600
      @rageldith9600 Před 5 lety +3

      Just, wow

    • @ThaDuDeMaN1
      @ThaDuDeMaN1 Před 5 lety +174

      i just cant believe they dont allow the bike glitch but they allow the RNG manipulation... id argue thats way bigger of a glitch.... from slightly faster text to removing all important RNG.... i dunno... they both should be out of a glitchless run

  • @258thHiGuy
    @258thHiGuy Před 5 lety +4132

    Are you serious
    The whole time they thought you had to press A in 1/60th of a second
    When all you had to do was just hold it down?
    How did nobody else try that?

    • @roideus
      @roideus Před 5 lety +293

      I knew that since I was a kid wtf lol

    • @nubfail
      @nubfail Před 5 lety +683

      Well, it's not like this is World of Warcraft with millions of people actively searching for new methods to speed up the game. There are only a small handful of people that actively look for new methods... like... 4 people.

    • @hdckighfkvhvgmk
      @hdckighfkvhvgmk Před 5 lety +493

      And this is what we call a HALF A press

    • @MackenziiRivers
      @MackenziiRivers Před 5 lety +49

      and how isnt this a glitch? surely it is?

    • @valletas
      @valletas Před 5 lety +68

      @@MackenziiRivers its more of a exploit them a glich

  • @ysquaredyobozo
    @ysquaredyobozo Před 3 lety +1042

    based on my knowledge of Gen1, glitchless isnt actually possible

    • @joshuah.4496
      @joshuah.4496 Před 3 lety +152

      Seriously. Even the most basic things are broken. Critical hits and focus energy being completely broken, never thawing from being frozen unless your hit with a fire type move, the combined special stat making psychic types invincible and OP, stacking leech seed and toxic, the move counter, etc... Gen 1 is just an absolute broken mess

    • @slakoththesuperstar2639
      @slakoththesuperstar2639 Před 3 lety +74

      @@joshuah.4496 *badge* 👏 *boost* 👏 *glitch*

    • @its_saber1525
      @its_saber1525 Před 3 lety +27

      @@joshuah.4496 getting a stat boost is causing a glitch because when one stat lowers or gets raised, every other does by one

    • @MS-tf8vh
      @MS-tf8vh Před 3 lety +49

      Ya it really isnt possible lol the debate on 'glitches' here proves it. Gen 1 is broken & not just for the glitches, let us remember the infamous 'ghost is strong against psychic!!' and the only ghosts are weak to psychic w/double poison typing 🤦‍♂️

    • @ghetis396
      @ghetis396 Před 3 lety +72

      The Nidorino that Prof. Oak shows you in the intro scene also has the cry of a Nidorina; it's literally impossible to play the game without encountering an error

  • @EnterANameReal
    @EnterANameReal Před 4 lety +648

    2:20 "because Pokemon Blue gives you a higher chance of getting sandshrew after Mount Moon"
    that makes it sound like Pokemon Red has sandshrew

    • @Draggobuttboi
      @Draggobuttboi Před 4 lety +141

      I mean it's Technically true, 0% would be lower

    • @ceruchi2084
      @ceruchi2084 Před 4 lety +87

      Sandshrew is my favorite Pokémon. I didn't realize he was not in Red. My sister and I got the games at the same time, and she got Red and I got Blue. My whole life would have been different if we reversed the colors. Thank you for this wild moment I'm having!

    • @dexxxvssecretlaboratoryhea2182
      @dexxxvssecretlaboratoryhea2182 Před 4 lety +11

      @@ceruchi2084 lul until I this point I was sure no one would ever say Sandshrew was their favorite. But ggs I guess :b

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 Před 4 lety +25

      @@dexxxvssecretlaboratoryhea2182 Honestly, after seeing someone who's favourite is Garbodor and another one who's favourite is Diggersby, Sandshrew doesn't surprise me at all by comparison

    • @shellshockedbros4458
      @shellshockedbros4458 Před 4 lety +5

      @@sephikong8323 Garboder isn't a bad Mon tho.
      He's pretty decent with attack and special attack. And sludge bomb is pretty good.

  • @esn_64
    @esn_64 Před 4 lety +6211

    Amazing, he gets 18 encounters and still manages to get a world record

    • @mvrrko
      @mvrrko Před 4 lety +32

      so true

    • @joshuabradberry9823
      @joshuabradberry9823 Před 4 lety +95

      ESN 64 that’s having so many dice rolls go your way. I run red and yellow also. Enough crits and good random red bar scenarios. Runs could get SUPER low.

    • @spicywater8701
      @spicywater8701 Před 4 lety +10

      Joshua Bradberry can I see your runs?

    • @yummypoop3131
      @yummypoop3131 Před 4 lety +106

      @@spicywater8701 His runs are for the lady's eyes only lmao

    • @xxxxxxxx183
      @xxxxxxxx183 Před 4 lety +24

      Why didnt they use repel?

  • @WereDictionary
    @WereDictionary Před 5 lety +2684

    "Wertster's general strategy was to make it through the game with the minimum that was required"
    - me at work

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread Před 4 lety +2454

    But what fossil do they take?

  • @mysteriousfun4759
    @mysteriousfun4759 Před 4 lety +618

    I love Summoning Salts compelling narratives, atmospheric snazzy related background music, and overall strong emphasis on showing and not just telling

    • @SonneRevsson
      @SonneRevsson Před 3 lety +9

      Which is why I'd like to see his take on Twitch Plays Pokemon :v but that has nothing to do with speed running so, tough chance

    • @blueorb8994
      @blueorb8994 Před 11 měsíci

      czcams.com/video/Az0PSkKQzpk/video.html

    • @JustACoolGuy97
      @JustACoolGuy97 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Oh yeah, Salt kills it man!

  • @ELStalky
    @ELStalky Před 6 lety +2644

    Kind of baffling that the ridiculously inaccurate in-game timer was not abandoned earlier.

    • @freshlymemed5680
      @freshlymemed5680 Před 5 lety +178

      Probably because people either didnt know if it was accurate or people were only usually able to prove their times with the timer.

    • @midshipman8654
      @midshipman8654 Před 5 lety +85

      Noah Also, while not as important for accurate record keeping, seeing that ending time is such a rush as compared to the external timer.

    • @cutecommie
      @cutecommie Před 5 lety +104

      Ingame timers are good enough, until all the records are ties.

    • @androidamwoza206
      @androidamwoza206 Před 5 lety +22

      Speed Demos Archive rules are so dated. It was good at the time but the speedrunning community has evolved so much that no one takes that website seriously anymore.

    • @ArlanKels
      @ArlanKels Před 5 lety +2

      Right now the RE:2 Remake speed runs run off of an in-game timer since depending on the hardware it's played on can result in drastically differnet times...I believe.

  • @kymion
    @kymion Před 6 lety +3946

    I don't know how this guy does it but I am enthralled by every one of these videos, even though I haven't played any of them.

    • @1UcMeOnce1
      @1UcMeOnce1 Před 6 lety +152

      The attention to detail and taking the time to explain the evolution of strats and routes on a level that both people that never played the games before or are pretty good at said game makes it very appealing :D Huge props to Salt

    • @RockHarding
      @RockHarding Před 6 lety

      I'm right there with ya.

    • @hatuncanlioglu7754
      @hatuncanlioglu7754 Před 6 lety

      Ben eyyup

    • @christhegamer926
      @christhegamer926 Před 6 lety

      kymion j

    • @blonded0532
      @blonded0532 Před 6 lety

      kymion same

  • @wyattclough6204
    @wyattclough6204 Před 3 lety +876

    For anyone curious, the current record for this category as of today is 1:45:21 held by pokeguy.
    Edit: Apparently it’s now Hwangbro with 1:45:05.

    • @hush-615
      @hush-615 Před 3 lety +44

      It's pretty unbelievable that it's remained unbeaten for 2 years.

    • @hush-615
      @hush-615 Před 3 lety +53

      @@El_Kanto I'm gonna assume that my comment was the blessing this speedrunner needed to attain the new world record. You're welcome, new world record holder.
      Kidding aside, that's amazing by them.

    • @sidosh2229
      @sidosh2229 Před 3 lety +36

      For anyone curious, 25 runners currently have a better PB than the WR was back then :D

    • @DarkAngelEU
      @DarkAngelEU Před 3 lety +17

      @@El_Kanto Gunner once said that sub 45 is impossible, but this is just five seconds more. Sub 45 is alive!

    • @Justinicus24
      @Justinicus24 Před 2 lety

      Hes my buddy

  • @codetaku
    @codetaku Před 6 měsíci +8

    I knew ExtraTricky from my dorm at MIT! He hadn't picked up pokemon speedrunning yet but he was really good at tetris (and even better at advanced mathematics, he took a graduate algebraic geometry class as a sophomore and was a top 19 scorer on the putnam his junior year). Crazy talented guy.

  • @matthewstone2545
    @matthewstone2545 Před 5 lety +1790

    10 Reasons why I won't speedrun Pokemon games:
    1. RNG
    2. RNG
    3. RNG
    4. RNG
    5. RNG
    6. RNG
    7. RNG
    8. RNG
    9. RNG
    10. 'Cause I suck

    • @matthewstone2545
      @matthewstone2545 Před 5 lety +107

      @Chris Lowery Oh yeah, I forgot the honourable mentions... here's the five honourable mentions:
      1. RNG
      2. RNG
      3. RNG
      4. RNG
      5. RNG

    • @MTNDEWGANG
      @MTNDEWGANG Před 4 lety +18

      Random shiny rng, and people freaking out over it and wasting time.

    • @tr4shpanda
      @tr4shpanda Před 4 lety +2

      makes sence

    • @donaldpetersen2382
      @donaldpetersen2382 Před 4 lety +13

      With RNG manipulation you don't have to be good.

    • @bruhman2277
      @bruhman2277 Před 4 lety +1

      Fair

  • @H1pstr0n
    @H1pstr0n Před 6 lety +698

    i'm still trembling with the story of choco mountain on the mario kart 64 video, man that was amazing

  • @lazarlemajic4926
    @lazarlemajic4926 Před 3 lety +119

    "But that is a progression for another day"
    Still waiting for it.

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 Před 4 lety +247

    Holy crap. I'd probably reset after 18 encounters. Coming back to get a record is amazing.

  • @iquemedia
    @iquemedia Před 6 lety +3337

    TwitchPlaysPokemon is still my favorite pokemon speed runners

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz Před 6 lety +183

      It's already been almost 4 years, where has the time gone?

    • @mahatmanana796
      @mahatmanana796 Před 6 lety +106

      Mish Koz 4 Years?!? Holy shit.

    • @mildcard1036
      @mildcard1036 Před 6 lety +67

      it's still a thing, there running another game on February 12th

    • @Cyro23
      @Cyro23 Před 6 lety +47

      Mild Card the first time was the best

    • @LinkEX
      @LinkEX Před 6 lety +22

      I think "Weed Runners" is a more fitting term here, lol.

  • @daninbox
    @daninbox Před 6 lety +251

    Extratricky's 18 encounters was painful.

    • @KingSoap-fy1oq
      @KingSoap-fy1oq Před 6 lety +2

      Dan Inbox in heartgold in the ice path i sincerely believe theres is less encounter rates i swear i usually only hit like 2 or 3 swinub

    • @munoobinater403
      @munoobinater403 Před měsícem

      Were there no repels in pokemon blue?

    • @tolga8061
      @tolga8061 Před 25 dny

      ​@@munoobinater403 There were, but not at that point of the game.

  • @NiceRoboT
    @NiceRoboT Před 4 lety +1576

    Me: why don’t I have a girlfriend
    Also me: *watches history documentary on Pokémon speed runs*
    Update: I forgot to update this - I have had a girlfriend for about 9 months now, and I think I’m going to ask her to marry me. And she watches these with me sometimes.

    • @k42uy4
      @k42uy4 Před 4 lety +31

      damn, that solves everything

    • @SS-uw8ii
      @SS-uw8ii Před 4 lety +12

      Me, this is me

    • @texasman9587
      @texasman9587 Před 4 lety +136

      TBH, I wouldn't date a girl who wouldn't date a guy simply because he watches speedrun video

    • @RiseAbove-ru5wq
      @RiseAbove-ru5wq Před 4 lety +61

      Dude I'd love to have a boyfriend who does speedruns or is interested in speedrun videos

    • @SS-uw8ii
      @SS-uw8ii Před 4 lety +6

      @@RiseAbove-ru5wq lol ig?

  • @Edgeperor
    @Edgeperor Před 4 lety +58

    6:05
    Well, if people couldn’t outplay him just yet, maybe somebody could out-strategize him
    This, is ExtraTricky
    “Well yeah, I would think it would be pretty ha- oh. It’s... actually just ExtraTricky...”

    • @thegrayyernaut
      @thegrayyernaut Před rokem

      Really bamboozled me who mostly listens to these videos instead of watching xD

    • @stoic_rose
      @stoic_rose Před 4 měsíci

      i think that part is actually my favorite bit of editing in this video, i love the quadrants of extratricky's icon coming in, its so cool

  • @nitrodog96
    @nitrodog96 Před 6 lety +380

    "ExtraTricky did his runs on Emulator, which I'm sure won't cause any controversy later or anything."
    Cracked up here. Controversy isn't a thing that exists, haha.

  • @TheCheat420
    @TheCheat420 Před 6 lety +305

    "He did his run on emulators, I'm sure that won't cause any problems later on."
    I literally laughed out loud for almost a minute. I've watched enough of your videos to know it's going to cause a lot of problems.

    • @Henrix1998
      @Henrix1998 Před 6 lety +13

      Speedrunners are so paranoid

    • @ENCHANTMEN_
      @ENCHANTMEN_ Před 6 lety +35

      That "controversy" is dumb. I mean, an actual console can still be modified, and you could also just blur the video a little and say it's a console.

    • @zackestin1368
      @zackestin1368 Před 6 lety +13

      Consoles have background noise that can’t be spliced, emulators don’t. So for an rng heavy game like Pokémon it makes sense to make sure that spicing is impossible.

    • @groszak1
      @groszak1 Před 6 lety +8

      it's more to prevent TAS cheating

    • @skelskeleton
      @skelskeleton Před 6 lety +8

      Also emulators may have _very_ slight mechanical differences that could give _slight_ advantages, even if it would be nigh impossible to spot. Forcing everyone to use the same thing in theory prevents that.
      If this problem actually exists or if the solution fixes anything is another topic that i myself am not familiar with.

  • @kfd784
    @kfd784 Před 3 lety +162

    For anyone curious, the current world record for this category as of today is 1:45:05 held by Hwangbro.

  • @bbydinobeats
    @bbydinobeats Před 4 lety +77

    lol i bet extratricky hears the encounter song in his sleep

  • @chrisbeach423
    @chrisbeach423 Před 6 lety +874

    14:50 jpaintrain looked exactly like a guy I went to school with, so I messaged him and found out it is him! Wtf "an old highschool friend has appeared" in one of summoning salts videos!??! Small world I guess.

    • @Collin255
      @Collin255 Před 6 lety +78

      Chris Beach thats pretty crazy

    • @DecimusYna
      @DecimusYna Před 6 lety +67

      Thats actually very cool.

    • @MrCubFan415
      @MrCubFan415 Před 6 lety +49

      Wow! That’s awesome!

    • @chrisbeach423
      @chrisbeach423 Před 6 lety +73

      Mr. Cub Fan 415 aye ima die hard Cubs fan since 1998(: but yea he's a Kool dude from East Tennessee, we played ball together growing up, It made my day when I messaged him and he told me it was him. He was already aware of the video. Sadly he doesn't speedrun much anymore. It still blows my mind he had the WR and I didn't even know about it. I guess that's part in due to people drifting apart after high school.

    • @DecimusYna
      @DecimusYna Před 6 lety +10

      Chris Beach :')

  • @sciverzero8197
    @sciverzero8197 Před 6 lety +1553

    I'm not terribly interested in speedruns, but I always feel a pang of rage when I hear that a small rule change destroyed the previous records.
    It seems like this should be a 'new category' thing rather than a 'nope all of this didn't happen, retconning it.' thing.

    • @soulelevation9696
      @soulelevation9696 Před 5 lety +182

      Sciver Zero shit happens, too many categories split the player base too much.

    • @spicywater8701
      @spicywater8701 Před 5 lety +9

      Soul Elavation, you right

    • @ColorlessAngelz
      @ColorlessAngelz Před 5 lety +40

      @@soulelevation9696 Who gives a fuck if there are more speedrun categories. Clearly you've never worked towards a goal as insane as a world record, otherwise you'd be able to empathize with the original poster's point.

    • @catdogfishdogcats
      @catdogfishdogcats Před 5 lety +43

      You just have an addendum that they were previous records using the old rules. A record is just history once it's beat, so whether it was a record on an old rule list or the new one doesn't matter if there are multiple new runs that beat it on either rule set. Your Old run may be delegitimized under the old rules, but that doesn't mean you aren't part of the history if it was a legitimate run under the old rules, it just means you have to Stay as a historical run, or get gud and compete for a new world record under the new rules, or beat your old record.

    • @EtienneLapha
      @EtienneLapha Před 5 lety +20

      the former record isn't erased from history, this has never been a problem. Proof is the existence of this video and its view count.

  • @tommykarrick9130
    @tommykarrick9130 Před 3 lety +283

    God what a mess of a leaderboard, I feel bad for the people playing this category knowing some random change in the rules could tear down their achievements at any time at no fault of their own

    • @randomnerd4600
      @randomnerd4600 Před 3 lety +9

      isnt that basically how real life works?

    • @PangolinMontanari
      @PangolinMontanari Před 3 lety +46

      @@randomnerd4600 Real life isn't a competition, ideally

    • @kevinmuller3425
      @kevinmuller3425 Před 3 lety +24

      Changes like this most of the time are voted in the community which means probably most people wanted this change so the majority would rather be happy then anything else

    • @thealkymyst
      @thealkymyst Před 3 lety +4

      @@PangolinMontanari Then you're playing it WRONG!

    • @clausch.3517
      @clausch.3517 Před 3 lety +10

      it's almost as if the leaderboards are as unstable as the game's code

  • @dstreetz91
    @dstreetz91 Před rokem +43

    It's insane, but now the WR for red/blue stands at 1:44:03 held by Pokeguy84. 2nd place is 1:45:05 by hwangbro. Former record was obliterated by over a minute in one of the most optimized speedruns where basically no stone has been left unturned.

    • @Lemon_Sage9999
      @Lemon_Sage9999 Před rokem +9

      We need an epic 5 year follow up video forsure

    • @PoliPantev
      @PoliPantev Před 10 měsíci +1

      Saying a run is very optimised and no stone has been left unturned is ignorant. There is always a way especially with a run that long.

    • @dstreetz91
      @dstreetz91 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@PoliPantev Have you looked at the WR run? Do you see where the timesave is concerning routing? Because every decision made in the run has been analyzed to death to the point that if you're aiming for WR your odds of completing a run are almost zero. The luck in the WR itself is incredible to the point that you could run the game for many, many years and not beat the WR time.

    • @PoliPantev
      @PoliPantev Před 7 měsíci

      @@dstreetz91 its optimised for now. But finding new strats can lower it. And history has taught us, that more often than not a time can always be lowered.

    • @gothia1715
      @gothia1715 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@PoliPantev A new strat can happen, true. However, its very unlikely given how deeply analyzed it is at this point. The new strat must also be something big to compete with this insane WR run from Pokeguy, which lowers the chance even further.
      People did say it before and were wrong. But i think Pokeguy finally killed Red/Blue for good with this run.

  • @dccxy
    @dccxy Před 5 lety +58

    5:25 "One hour and 57 seconds".. damn he done shattered that shit then, haha

  • @smokesparkdragonfly1368
    @smokesparkdragonfly1368 Před 6 lety +359

    I dont know how you popped up in my recommended, but im *so* *glad* *you* *did*

    • @SilverWolf_-cj4qn
      @SilverWolf_-cj4qn Před 5 lety +5

      Dude fucking same though. I have been binge watching these for hours.

    • @Wockes
      @Wockes Před 5 lety +1

      Did for me now randomly. I barely even watch Pokemon

  • @HYLOBRO
    @HYLOBRO Před 4 lety +90

    I love that exarion came out of nowhere and proved himself to be a total badass. That kind of out of the blue come in and show who’s boss is absolutely fascinating.

    • @Dragonatrix
      @Dragonatrix Před 2 lety +17

      And then it gets disqualified because he had the audacity to not be a popular famous member of the in-crowd already

    • @HYLOBRO
      @HYLOBRO Před 2 lety +5

      @@Dragonatrix damn your comment reminded me to do my yearly rewatch of this amazing video

    • @GK-gc9cv
      @GK-gc9cv Před 2 lety +1

      @@Dragonatrix yeah i get the skepticism but he was found guilty without proof

  • @domskillet5744
    @domskillet5744 Před rokem +3

    Player: *Becomes pokemon champion in under 2 hours
    Oak: "You still have work to do"

  • @MsCreepyChan
    @MsCreepyChan Před 5 lety +520

    Remember, kiddies, if you want to get a good speedrun, pray to RNGesus

    • @Forty2de
      @Forty2de Před 5 lety +25

      sounded more like RNGesus became their bitch by the end of it

    • @samt3412
      @samt3412 Před 4 lety +2

      Depends on the game. A Celeste run has no RNG, whereas RPG speedruns are built around it because of the very mechanics of most RPG fights are built off of RNG.

    • @Valigarmanda
      @Valigarmanda Před 4 lety +1

      @@samt3412 True but not to the same extent as Pokemon games are.
      Atleast most FF games have constant stat growths, minus a few. (looking at you, FF2)

  • @braddahoz9551
    @braddahoz9551 Před 6 lety +77

    I've missed you summoning salt.

    • @SummoningSalt
      @SummoningSalt  Před 6 lety +8

      I missed you too Austin.

    • @ThePeacePlant
      @ThePeacePlant Před 6 lety +4

      Could you record a video of yall making out and ill send you each $300 over PayPal

  • @Maplelust
    @Maplelust Před 4 lety +38

    someone got 1:45:21 as of July 2019. Werster is now at 1:51:18 in 28th place.

  • @skuntpunch
    @skuntpunch Před 5 měsíci +4

    Literally every speedrunner looks like what you’d expect a speedrunner to look like 🤣🤓

  • @overlordalfredo
    @overlordalfredo Před 6 lety +93

    21:38 It is so ironic that even is you totally destroyed the previous world record *the game still tells you "You still have lots to do,"*

  • @novasnotvibing
    @novasnotvibing Před 5 lety +279

    I just spent 30 minutes of my life on this, and honestly no regrets brother.

  • @jacksfacts20
    @jacksfacts20 Před 2 lety +20

    It seems like Pokémon speed runners have ice in their veins because their reactions to getting a WR is wayyy more chill than most of the other runners you’ve shown from other games.

    • @ShadyOne426
      @ShadyOne426 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I agree! I think Pokémon speedrun are so brutal that they are just dead inside by that point 😂

  • @danielkingery2418
    @danielkingery2418 Před 3 lety +7

    11:46 A song I haven't heard in 25 years. Instantly took me back to a better place and time.

    • @RichardxNB
      @RichardxNB Před 5 měsíci

      What's the name of that song?

    • @danielkingery2418
      @danielkingery2418 Před 5 měsíci

      @@RichardxNB czcams.com/video/xpUZYWX2BoY/video.htmlsi=Yojr6yRtUn3t7bPW

  • @BizarreJelly
    @BizarreJelly Před 6 lety +105

    Your content on youtube is like no other. It's produce so well. The narration, the research, time and energy. You deserve a lot more support on Patreon my man. I wish I wasn't so broke lol.

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow1 Před 6 lety +49

    I dont even speed run and I still watch these videos fucking instantly. Love this series.

    • @mordykinz4228
      @mordykinz4228 Před 6 lety +2

      Chairman Meow I love this series but I don't know why because his voice is so monotone

    • @lolbrigader
      @lolbrigader Před 6 lety +1

      I don't even know why I'm watching it but I can't stop.

  • @JaceOKami
    @JaceOKami Před 3 lety +30

    Talking to a bike shop keeper without a voucher: bad
    Softreset into literally Konami-Coding yourself into a desired position: perfectly fine
    ...excuse me, wat?

    • @SilentOnion
      @SilentOnion Před 2 lety

      Talking to the bike shop guy without the voucher produces an unintended effect.
      Resetting and then doing inputs is intended and is used for generating "randomness", you are just doing the inputs that lead to the "randomness" generator generating what you want.
      In short instatext is taking advantage of an oversight while in rng manip you just know how the game works

  • @tomwors
    @tomwors Před 2 lety +4

    "It didn't press left, Precious. Filthy gameboyses tricked us."

  • @mtn_dewpider3925
    @mtn_dewpider3925 Před 6 lety +130

    These WR videos are so well put together and produced

    • @IFCGaming
      @IFCGaming Před 6 lety

      and half an hour long too. one person probably spends a month editing that

  • @EVPointMaster
    @EVPointMaster Před 6 lety +719

    7 days ago Exarion did a 1:45:48

  • @supportpatriarchyordietrying

    I think every kid used the "Squirtle Strategy" on their first ever run.

  • @AnIllinoisan
    @AnIllinoisan Před 3 lety +11

    You are so knowledgeable about everything speedrun-related. It’s relaxing and a joy to watch your videos!

  • @natahndolar2142
    @natahndolar2142 Před 5 lety +177

    *Steps forward*
    *RANDOM ENCOUNTER*

    • @nubfail
      @nubfail Před 5 lety +28

      Simply changes direction without even stepping onto a new tile.
      RANDOM ENCOUNTER

    • @c-1939
      @c-1939 Před 5 lety +2

      Russian Bot I have had that happen idk how

  • @DiegoPalestro
    @DiegoPalestro Před 6 lety +677

    *AN A PRESS IS AN A PRESS, YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S ONLY A HALF*

    • @mariostar13
      @mariostar13 Před 5 lety +7

      +pannekoek2012

    • @Asdayasman
      @Asdayasman Před 5 lety +61

      Actually, an A press has three stages.

    • @QuinGracia
      @QuinGracia Před 5 lety +1

      Diego Palestro **0** -(Ima firin ma lazor) *0======================:)):

    • @freikinpoptarts
      @freikinpoptarts Před 5 lety +8

      ok Diego "Henry" Palestro

    • @mariostar13
      @mariostar13 Před 5 lety

      @MrNudood ...framerules.

  • @anevilghost670
    @anevilghost670 Před 4 lety +81

    Talking to a bike owner to take advantage of instantaneous text: Not okay
    Purposely making yourself at low HP to take advantage of faster animations: Perfectly reasonable

    • @jamesdickerson1291
      @jamesdickerson1291 Před 3 lety +1

      Gets insane world record
      "Oh man."
      -Exarion

    • @gas-station-sushi
      @gas-station-sushi Před 3 lety +2

      @MD7 isnt that just a glitch too? exploiting the console's limitations to have an advantage

    • @vanillawookie4281
      @vanillawookie4281 Před 3 lety +4

      @@gas-station-sushi it's more like goldeneye speedrunning to look at the ground to improve frame rate by not loading as much.

    • @Janders3000
      @Janders3000 Před 3 lety +2

      Problem being that you can’t completely prevent yourself from going to low HP all the time, while avoiding talking to the bike owner before you have the voucher is quite easy.

    • @gooblop
      @gooblop Před 3 lety +2

      @@Janders3000 You can also argue that the sound "issue" is intentional, the game skips sounds if another sound is playing by design. The fact that this speeds up a run does not make it a glitch.

  • @omni_vocal9877
    @omni_vocal9877 Před 4 lety +6

    Just found this channel late last night - been hooked on your content - THANK YOU

  • @victikirby15
    @victikirby15 Před 6 lety +1024

    Ooh!!!
    I can’t tell you how much I’ve been waiting for this!
    Although there were a few mistakes, like “1 hour and 57 seconds” and how DV actually stands for Determinant Value, the entire video was really great, as usual.
    I just need a video on Megaman X, and I’m good

    • @ButNotMyWife
      @ButNotMyWife Před 6 lety +13

      victikirby15 How have you watched the whole thing already?

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat Před 6 lety +18

      It's Determin*ant* Value, but yeah.

    • @QuantemDeconstructor
      @QuantemDeconstructor Před 6 lety +8

      My boy flexin', yeah we need Megaman X

    • @TAKEYOURCREATINE
      @TAKEYOURCREATINE Před 6 lety +7

      Wil ly I watch most videos on 1.5x, maybe he does too

    • @Navarchil
      @Navarchil Před 6 lety +7

      Are DVs something like IVs in current pokemon gaming?

  • @Rachelbee
    @Rachelbee Před 5 lety +922

    Anyone else get anxiety hearing the red health bar warning?

  • @meikahidenori
    @meikahidenori Před 4 lety +12

    The amount of research into these is incredible! Keep up the amazing work!

  • @fengshuimma9160
    @fengshuimma9160 Před 2 lety +9

    I enjoyed this much more than I expected to since it was kind of random in my list.
    Well done sir, great content!

  • @feanorn8409
    @feanorn8409 Před 5 lety +258

    Damn i miss Werster speedrunning the old Pokemon games. It was like he came, he made strats and he owned all other runners.
    But yeah, Gunner, Pokeguy and Exarion made a everyday grind out of this, thats why i understand Wersters decision to quit.
    2013 ! Still the greatest year of Red/Blue runs !

    • @Flexy59
      @Flexy59 Před 5 lety +14

      i am not sure whether i understand that correctly: werster stopped, because the other 3 you named are grinding everyday to push the WR down further?

    • @OldDistantHermit
      @OldDistantHermit Před 5 lety +85

      @@Flexy59 Pretty sure he meant that the grind at this point is so long and grueling that he understands werster's decision to say "I've reached the limit of what I want to do and I'd rather move to something else"

    • @gairisiuil
      @gairisiuil Před 4 lety

      the siglemic of pokemon

    • @alexgria
      @alexgria Před 4 lety +4

      We got a speedrun spectator veteran right here!

    • @toe_sucker_4165
      @toe_sucker_4165 Před 3 lety +1

      The Matt Turk of Pokemon.

  • @NYJATW
    @NYJATW Před 6 lety +37

    I randomly thought to myself how it's been awhile since a SS video was out. I check the channel, and boom, 13 minutes ago!

  • @DevuLL
    @DevuLL Před 2 lety

    Im so thankful that i found your channel. Im binch watching so many videos of yours. Its really helping me through these tough times. Thank you very much

  • @edwardnygma8533
    @edwardnygma8533 Před 4 lety +132

    Video: *Is about Pokémon*
    Video: *Has Pokémon in the script plenty of times.*
    Salt: *Calls the last runner "pokeguy"*

    • @doctorzeek2370
      @doctorzeek2370 Před 4 lety +4

      cause that was his gamer tag? or am i missing something lol

    • @edwardnygma8533
      @edwardnygma8533 Před 4 lety +7

      @@doctorzeek2370 It should be "Pokéguy", like "po-kay-guy", because it's "po-kay-mon", but he pronounces it "poke-guy", like a midwestern mother saying "poke-man". That clear it up?

    • @doctorzeek2370
      @doctorzeek2370 Před 4 lety +1

      @@edwardnygma8533 ah. I just Presumed that was the pronunciation, ive never heard of him, so i cant be sure,lol. thanks yo. i take it you follow pokeguy and he says its pronounced like poke in pokemon? again, i wouldnt know, dont hate lol

    • @edwardnygma8533
      @edwardnygma8533 Před 4 lety +1

      @@doctorzeek2370 No I've never heard of the guy, but iirc it was displayed with an é so the logic would follow as before.

    • @leagueofminecraft6964
      @leagueofminecraft6964 Před 3 lety +8

      Edward Nygma his name isn’t displayed with an é. It’s just pokeguy

  • @CrystalHakurei
    @CrystalHakurei Před 6 lety +391

    It's 11:25 pm
    WR progression video uploaded
    Guess who is staying up an extra 30 minutes

    • @kinanschannel6016
      @kinanschannel6016 Před 6 lety +2

      TheGameBoyUltimate it 9:30 pm here

    • @soulslayer434
      @soulslayer434 Před 6 lety +3

      Yah it's 12:40am I have to go to work in 6 hours. I guess I can just stay up though ;p

    • @zeabeth
      @zeabeth Před 6 lety +1

      Speedrun watch the video at at least 2x speed

    • @danielrein5503
      @danielrein5503 Před 6 lety +1

      1:27 for me now ◡̈ but totally worth it

    • @katawatenshu
      @katawatenshu Před 6 lety

      don't tell your mom!

  • @lupin9790
    @lupin9790 Před 6 lety +418

    Remember when that fish played pokemon on twitch? what if we got goldfishes and made them battle each other using the same set up and then we could bet which fish would win in a pokemon battle? Profit?

    • @wis7604
      @wis7604 Před 6 lety +43

      Silvanus911 I mean the fish never left pallet town

    • @siddhayak
      @siddhayak Před 6 lety +25

      Nicholas Ho But you can just start by putting them in the fight menu.

    • @Yummermonkey
      @Yummermonkey Před 6 lety +4

      Genius

    • @paradoxzee6834
      @paradoxzee6834 Před 6 lety +2

      Anyone remerber Imax?
      He and Gunner were saw as rivals they both speedrunned Pokemon Yellow and they both have around the same people watching them with Imax having like 10ish more people than Gunner.
      What I know he did change from Yellow to X and Y speedrunnig and that preatty much killed him

    • @MysticalOriginz
      @MysticalOriginz Před 6 lety +2

      Profit? More like PETA

  • @kaptainKrill
    @kaptainKrill Před 3 lety +41

    So excited to hear that this is going to get a remake! That has always been my hope- as someone who loves the original games, I can’t wait to hear you bring your higher quality content to this topic.

  • @QuestionYourWorld
    @QuestionYourWorld Před 3 lety +4

    The idea of Pokemon speedruns is hilarious. Completely counters the argument of "They just let a boy leave home and go off on an adventure."
    Kid was gone for less than 2 hours.

  • @xerowon3490
    @xerowon3490 Před 6 lety +122

    FINALLY! been waiting forever for this one!

    • @xerowon3490
      @xerowon3490 Před 6 lety

      twinkie231 very much agreed. I've been following him for months now and he's never once disappointed

    • @nibs991
      @nibs991 Před 6 lety

      Its because he's a speedrunner (For punch out) himself so i feel i can trust him more

  • @TrapnestShinigami
    @TrapnestShinigami Před 5 lety +842

    You still have lots to do.

  • @scrungomcdungo
    @scrungomcdungo Před 3 lety +1

    this was the first vid I watched from summoning salt, the day after xmas on my brand new PS4 browsing CZcams, and seeing this vid in the recommended
    you're amazing summoning salt, keep it up!!

  • @itsamemario6588
    @itsamemario6588 Před 4 lety +6

    I love you for making these. This is a whole world of intrigue and competition and glory that I'd never have learned anything about if not for your efforts. Peace, man.

  • @havoc2867
    @havoc2867 Před 6 lety +68

    Wish these came out more often but I understand they take awhile to make

  • @Idealismsu
    @Idealismsu Před 6 lety +143

    yeah you know what? i aint sleeping tonight

  • @KayakMike
    @KayakMike Před 2 lety +1

    You do these really well man. Big fan - glad you popped up on my recommended.

  • @ShawnTheMidget
    @ShawnTheMidget Před 3 lety +8

    Holy, found your channel from a reddit comment. Decided to click this video cause I like pokemon. Just checked to see what the current record is. SOME GUY LITERALLY JUST BROKE THE 2 YEAR RECORD YESTERDAY! The internet is a crazy place.

  • @acgm046
    @acgm046 Před 5 lety +25

    11:02 that amount of encounters put together in a row really REALLY disturbed the shit out of me...

  • @leo17921
    @leo17921 Před 5 lety +169

    i dont have any pokémon game, know basically nothing about the game, and i still watched this video without getting bored at any moment.
    gg

    • @noahfinkel3059
      @noahfinkel3059 Před 4 lety

      Me too

    • @carterferris07
      @carterferris07 Před 4 lety +1

      You should play Pokémon just for the experience. If you ever consider, I recommend Emerald for Game boy Advance, and Pokémon Platinum on Ds

    • @randomnerd4600
      @randomnerd4600 Před 3 lety

      @@carterferris07 i agree. emerald was my 1st pokemon game and it was simply cool.

  • @tripple-a6031
    @tripple-a6031 Před 4 lety +14

    20:45 The moment Exarion claimed what rightfully was his, beautiful.

  • @DARTHJASPER1
    @DARTHJASPER1 Před 3 lety +2

    although this video is 2 years old by time of me watching, you are such a great story teller man!! totally hooked to your content

  • @WilfredCthulu
    @WilfredCthulu Před 6 lety +321

    Nostalgic feelings aside the one thing I love about gen 1 that'll probably never leave for me or change in any way is the brokenness of them.

    • @TayoEXE
      @TayoEXE Před 6 lety +26

      Wilfred Cthulu The glitches were half the fun.

    • @MK-bn6un
      @MK-bn6un Před 6 lety +7

      I agree, I love the glitches

    • @iss2075
      @iss2075 Před 6 lety +31

      When Gen I was actually out, most kids only knew about the MssingNo glitch. People would no doubt occasionally come across other glitches, but as a kid: 1) you wouldn't understand what happened (in some cases you might not even realise it was a glitch), 2) you wouldn't be able to replicate the glitch and 3) you wouldn't spread word about the glitch out further than your close friends because a lot of people didn't have Internet back then (and for the people who did, it was painfully slow).
      The best you could do is keep buying the gaming magazines in shops and hope one of the readers had discovered a glitch, written into the magazine writers about it, and the magazine decided to write about it.
      Basically, I'm trying to say, yes the games are full of glitches, but in practice as a child the experience was relatively glitchless. The games did, for the most part, play as intended. I know now that the games are quite ridiculous, but at the time it didn't seem like that.
      The thing that confused me most was that I understood the type chart even when I was very young, and seeing things like Razor Leaf be "Not very effective" on Gyarados, or Leech Life be "Super effective" on Zubat was confusing. But I could tell from the actual damage they did that the game was calculating the damage correctly, it was just the text that was wrong. And I got Pokemon Stadium a few years later and in that game they displayed the correct text.
      A gltich I did come across by accident was in Viridian Forest I died from poison the same time as the last Bug Catcher in Viridian Forest saw me. I fainted but the exclamation mark still appeared above his head. Then when I went back into Viridian Forest a wild Slowbro appeared immediately. I was like WTF at the time, and now i understand what happened, but at the time I had no idea what happened, why it happened, and how to do it again.

    • @MK-bn6un
      @MK-bn6un Před 6 lety +1

      I played on an emulator at 15 with some knowledge a well known bug, the Ditto glitch, though yes you are right, it was glitchless my first play through (forgot that last bit)

    • @notesscrotes4360
      @notesscrotes4360 Před 6 lety +15

      The vast majority of people don't play Pokemon because it's a balanced RPG. Smogon-heads who farm natures and perfect EVs for fun have a hard time understanding why people loved those old ones so much.

  • @EpicUltraKingSmizzy
    @EpicUltraKingSmizzy Před 5 lety +289

    i want to see a TASbot no major glitches run where they just manipulate every little piece of RNG to go their way. Constant critical hits, every item is a rare candy or better, every bad random encounter is skipped etc. I wonder how far the RNG manipulation can go with a TAS

    • @emiletrotignon2036
      @emiletrotignon2036 Před 5 lety +21

      They are random rare candy in pokemon red/blue ?I only played pokemon later gens, it seems weird to me.

    • @guymcaulay8996
      @guymcaulay8996 Před 5 lety +78

      There are no random item drops in Pokemon, no.

    • @ShadowFox178
      @ShadowFox178 Před 5 lety +20

      Random is actually not very random in pretty much any application.
      Like, numbers in number generators have been shown to have bias as well and that numbers can get chosen inconsistently.
      RNG manip' abuses an underlying component of the game that's tracking your inputs which then effects how the game decides to use its RNG component.

    • @ryjelsum
      @ryjelsum Před 5 lety +11

      There is not one for gen 1 but there is one for gens 2-4 on tasvideos, here is the gold/silver one which features a frankly astonishingly massive amount of RNG manip, from quick claw triggers to high power magnitudes to critical hits: tasvideos.org/564M.html

    • @fab8920
      @fab8920 Před 5 lety +1

      Then y don’t u do it before anyone else can?

  • @ChriSaito
    @ChriSaito Před 3 lety +1

    This is so fascinating. I hope you keep up the videos!

  • @brianw554
    @brianw554 Před 3 lety +8

    I got my gameboy color when i was 3 years old for Christmas with Red version. I stopped playing that day because i couldnt get out of the house lol

  • @gottalight3574
    @gottalight3574 Před 6 lety +39

    I was literally going to sleep, screw that!

    • @Apanblod
      @Apanblod Před 6 lety

      Elliot "Going to sleep" is not a figure of speech, so it doesn't make sense to use "literally" like that.

  • @suitNtie22
    @suitNtie22 Před 5 lety +21

    I just discovered this channel and it has introduced me to the incredibly interesting world of speed running. Thank you for making such good content to show off this awesome community!

  • @huckfin_9436
    @huckfin_9436 Před 3 lety +1

    I absolutely love this dude's videos. Keep up the great work Salt. We need you brother!

  • @lancy2546
    @lancy2546 Před 2 lety +3

    Watched this like 3-4 times and i still come back to watch this. Just so original and awesome content

  • @Essey001
    @Essey001 Před 6 lety +100

    WR Progression for Majora's Mask:
    Ennopp
    Ennopp
    Ennopp
    Ennopp
    Ennopp
    Ennopp
    Ennopp
    Ennopp
    Ennopp
    Ennopp
    thesausage
    Ennopp
    Ennopp
    Ennopp

  • @Ztepagman
    @Ztepagman Před 6 lety +183

    He protec
    He attac
    But most importantly
    He bacc

    • @benyverezub5217
      @benyverezub5217 Před 6 lety +1

      he protec
      He attac
      But most importantly
      Ded meme

    • @CalSticks
      @CalSticks Před 6 lety +1

      He protec? He attac.
      Most importantly? He bac.
      Ded meme? Trivago.

  • @Spartan_Mello
    @Spartan_Mello Před 10 měsíci +3

    Coming back to watch this is wonderful. Really hope to see a Pokemon Emerald deep dive from SummoningSalt.

  • @IBongMaster395I
    @IBongMaster395I Před 4 měsíci +1

    I've watched this video alone so many times,
    Would LOVE an updated Pokemon video :D

  • @gilgameshur-nammu366
    @gilgameshur-nammu366 Před 6 lety +8

    You are extremely talented in creating content such as this. The editing skills and music plus commentary are extremely well done, almost professional-level. I was so anxious for new content but I understand that perfection can't be rushed. Thank you for being true to your channel's pursuit of quality.

  • @ashh046
    @ashh046 Před 6 lety +115

    28:00
    0.5x A Press fans REUNITE

    • @WoobinTheScrub
      @WoobinTheScrub Před 6 lety +16

      But to answer that

    • @RomanoZattoni
      @RomanoZattoni Před 6 lety +17

      Woobin The Scrub We have to talk about parallel universes

    • @ochentaycincoalbricias
      @ochentaycincoalbricias Před 6 lety +3

      Here's a grid of every parallel universe in Super Mario 64

    • @MrCubFan415
      @MrCubFan415 Před 6 lety

      eurehl5238 (insert clusterf**k grid here)

    • @seamoose9039
      @seamoose9039 Před 6 lety

      "And now, not only have we explained Oot, we have also made the chart totally unreadable!"
      Zzazz, in his "what is out of bounds?"

  • @brycestrife5605
    @brycestrife5605 Před 3 lety +2

    I find these videos SO interesting. Fascinating even. Thanks for the AMAZING content. ❤

  • @danielfierro6694
    @danielfierro6694 Před 4 lety

    Just discovered this channel today and I cant stop binge watching. Great videos

  • @brandonxmoody
    @brandonxmoody Před 5 lety +19

    Hold up, that's the SNES Top Gear racing game theme at 11:45!

  • @thelegitnintendogamer1832
    @thelegitnintendogamer1832 Před 5 lety +198

    So ur telling me no one ever tried just holding down the a button during the first text screen? Seriously? If I knew about the RNG manipulation I would of at least tried that strategy really early on.

    • @Tenaciousturtl
      @Tenaciousturtl Před 5 lety +30

      The Legit Nintendo Gamer They weren’t allowed to reset the game for many years so manips were never figured out until recently

  • @pumpkingreg6673
    @pumpkingreg6673 Před 4 lety +146

    hot take: werster is a top 10 speed runner of any game of all time for being revolutionary

  • @lanehodnett8222
    @lanehodnett8222 Před 3 lety +3

    Very solid work! As a huge Pokémon fan it’s interesting to see the progression and optimization of these games. Would also love to see you either cover the remakes or the glitched runs