Sableye is TERRIBLE in Gen 3. Here’s Why Pros are Using it.

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  • Pokemon Gen 3 Competitive Singles is a great format where unique strategies always seem to pop up in tournaments. Sableye, while it looks completely terrible, has recently been used by high-level player ABR thanks to its unique qualities. It is the only Ghost type with access to Knock Off and Recover, 2 fantastic moves, and thanks to Psych Up it can even improve your matchup against Curse Snorlax.
    I am not talking about Mega Sableye, rather, I'm talking about regular Sableye. Mega-Sableye isn't involved.
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Komentáře • 289

  • @jimothycool
    @jimothycool  Před 10 měsíci +494

    I pronounce Pokemon names very well.

    • @keseey8494
      @keseey8494 Před 10 měsíci +13

      Yea… you still manged to say sableye wrong Nice vid tho

    • @saltyralts
      @saltyralts Před 10 měsíci +19

      Where did you get that pronunciation from though?
      It is sable, eye. I do not understand.

    • @wowb1965
      @wowb1965 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Shout out to sablie for joining the fight against iron mugulis

    • @sideways5153
      @sideways5153 Před 10 měsíci +10

      Sab-Lie is understandable if you don’t recognize the word “sable” when you learn the name, but it is strange to hear lol

    • @cobaltcorsair592
      @cobaltcorsair592 Před 10 měsíci

      If you think that's bad, I originally pronounced (and sometimes still do out of habit) Sableye as 'sabble-eye'.

  • @jakegiller3356
    @jakegiller3356 Před 10 měsíci +1215

    Differing pokemon pronunciations affect my very being. It's a harsh reminder of the lack of unity between human understanding.

    • @asdfg2941
      @asdfg2941 Před 10 měsíci +27

      Theres pronounciation guides in smogon serebii and pokemonfandom. So its not a unity problem some people are just wrong

    • @carucath97
      @carucath97 Před 10 měsíci +14

      @@DrCoeloCephalooesn’t the anime do this?

    • @honjon666
      @honjon666 Před 10 měsíci +24

      I think it's important to remember regional accents and non native speakers using the language. Imagine if the Japanese names were never localized the arguments we'd be having. It's an eye for a sableye kind of world

    • @lennartstockl5826
      @lennartstockl5826 Před 10 měsíci +8

      ​@@DrCoeloCephaloOh yes.
      Let's use the official pronounciations then.
      Like Gen-Gar with 2 hard Gs.

    • @immortalmachine5839
      @immortalmachine5839 Před 10 měsíci

      This sounds like something JC Denton would say

  • @Nootathotep
    @Nootathotep Před 10 měsíci +519

    Banette being worse than Gengar, Dusclops, Misdreavus, Sableye and probably Haunter in ADV OU is king shit

    • @jimothycool
      @jimothycool  Před 10 měsíci +165

      Banette is secretly the Greatest ghost. But don't tell anyone

    • @DkKobaADV
      @DkKobaADV Před 10 měsíci +52

      haunter is more viable in UU than banette, its v sad

    • @loupe500
      @loupe500 Před 10 měsíci +64

      It does have the niche of being the only phisical ghost in the game. That makes it the only viable ghost stab mon. And yet it's still shit...

    • @haidynwendlandt2479
      @haidynwendlandt2479 Před 10 měsíci

      @@loupe500The biggest problem is that Banette is shit

    • @ThatGuyThai
      @ThatGuyThai Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@loupe500 nah gengar just does it better, sub down to liechi, focus punch the ttar that came in, and then explode on their next mon. 2 kills for 1. Shadow ball kills a non bulky starmie and other gars after a boost too.

  • @T0X1CSPIKES
    @T0X1CSPIKES Před 10 měsíci +245

    This is why I'll always love gens 3 and 4 the most. It felt like they were the generations that best rewarded experimentation and pulling up mons from the lower tiers. Nowadays, powercreep has hit the game so hard that a good portion of the roster isn't even worth looking at. You can't find a niche for them at all. Like, we've always had mons that were bad on purpose as a joke (such as Luvdisc) but currently, we see lots of fully evolved pokemon that are clearly meant to be taken seriously yet theres no justification for ever using them.

    • @notapear
      @notapear Před 10 měsíci +24

      tfw ariados is good as a lead in ubers because it limits deo-s to 1 layer of spikes and beats lead darkrai.

    • @KindaKaon
      @KindaKaon Před 10 měsíci +16

      ⁠@@notapeardont believe the propaganda my dude, it doesn’t really beat lead Darkrai and it only wins vs some Deo-S sets. It has a niche, but it’s pretty consistently objectively worse than the other tspikes options (although it did win a game at the DPPubers invitational, which is pretty sick)

    • @notapear
      @notapear Před 10 měsíci +23

      @@KindaKaon the fact that it even has a THEORETICAL use case in ubers is funny enough in itself.

    • @SteveScapesYT
      @SteveScapesYT Před 10 měsíci +15

      I think it’s more that in Gen 3-4 when you did find niches for UU- mons it was much more novel and impactful because the standards were so limited and stable. Where as in modern gens, even the lower use OUs are still monsters and UU is filled with former Uber and OU mons that still can’t be taken for granted. Wow, you used Greninja or Blissey or Hippowdon in OU, amazing (not). No one going to applaud or be surprised if you pull up with Quagsire or Gastrodon anymore.

    • @kittyspartan143
      @kittyspartan143 Před 10 měsíci +13

      Modern games are balanced for VGC, not singles. VGC sees a ridiculous amount of creativity and experimentation!

  • @centurionpanocculus
    @centurionpanocculus Před 10 měsíci +105

    That sucks sooo much that it doesnt get Wisp in gen 3! I was thinking almost that that was the reason that it was used in Gen 3. Psych Up surprised me also lol

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan Před 10 měsíci +5

      If Sableye did get Will-O-Wisp then it would have been used more. Even fully bulked out, it's frail without the foes crippled if you try to go evenly defensive.

  • @dastardlydwarf6909
    @dastardlydwarf6909 Před 10 měsíci +50

    The gem goblin goes around slapping them items off

  • @thebestworst8002
    @thebestworst8002 Před 10 měsíci +101

    I’ve been playing gen 3 OU A lot recently and I’m just so amazed at how balanced the tier is after playing all the new gens. None of the offensive Pokémon are one dimensional sweepers and they each have alternate sets or something to make them unique. Meanwhile, despite how strong all the defensive options are, they each have some sort of abusable flaw that makes fighting them less annoying and using them more dynamic and satisfying. It takes a lot to make a tier where the average game being over 40 turns not feel boring and frustrating but somehow gen 3 OU has that perfect combination of traits.

    • @CubeBizz
      @CubeBizz Před 10 měsíci +11

      Two main reasons that come to mind: no physical/special split and lack of strong items. For instance lack of choice scarf means revenge killing isn't as simple so you need to deal with sweepers in other ways. On the flipside sweepers can rarely use their STABs so they're not at their full power. All this slows the metagame a little bit because mons are effectively bulkier. New gens are power crept and it's a sweep fest while trading mons with your opponent until one of you runs out

    • @quantumhawk806
      @quantumhawk806 Před 10 měsíci +1

      In the newer gens a lot of pokemons dont have alternative sets since you could better use a different mon.

  • @TrulyAtrocious
    @TrulyAtrocious Před 10 měsíci +22

    I love the gen 1 sprites
    There's Garganacl and then there's four Earthbound enemies

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 Před 10 měsíci +1

      It feels like Gen 1 Pokémon was inspired by Earthbound.

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman Před 10 měsíci +1

      Mewtwo is just Geigue with a giant neck vein and feet.

  • @totalphantasm
    @totalphantasm Před 10 měsíci +49

    I think it’s an under spoken yet cool trait that (prior to fairy existing), dark/ghost was the only type combo with literally 0 weaknesses (with the only other Pokémon having this type combo being spiritomb). The only other Pokémon that naturally has no type weakness is the Elektross line (being the only pure electric with levitate).
    Tbh as a kid I always thought it was weird that more ghost Pokémon WERENT ghost dark because I just felt like it kinda made sense for a lot of them.
    Small edit: I also realized that in gen 1 ghost/normal also has 0 weaknesses, but this is largely irrelevant as Gen 1 normal type also basically has no weaknesses on account of the fighting type sucking in addition to there not being any normal ghosts in gen 1

    • @SPZ-gv2on
      @SPZ-gv2on Před 10 měsíci +5

      Similary, gen 1 psychics had effectively 0 weaknesses between the psychic being immune to ghost coding error and bug moves being pathetically weak and rare.

    • @royalhydra9790
      @royalhydra9790 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@SPZ-gv2onalso ghost moves being pathetically weak and rare, so even if they did work as intended they wouldn’t be used

    • @petrie911
      @petrie911 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I wish they had made ghost resist fairy just to preserve the no weaknesses thing.

    • @soniablanche5672
      @soniablanche5672 Před 10 měsíci

      not entirely true, there are abilities and attacks that let you hit ghosts with normal and fighting

  • @moacruz9861
    @moacruz9861 Před 10 měsíci +21

    Shadowball is actually Physical type back then, That's why i noticed... Gengar not using it

    • @jimothycool
      @jimothycool  Před 10 měsíci +13

      Correct

    • @a-s-greig
      @a-s-greig Před 10 měsíci +3

      Swords Dance Shedinja gets a fun toy

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle Před 10 měsíci +6

      Ghost being Physical and Dark being special were both utter nonsense, but that's how it be.

    • @moacruz9861
      @moacruz9861 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jimothycool fact LOL
      Imagine when the popular current pokemon's exist from previous gen with current movesets exist too

  • @madysonandres9571
    @madysonandres9571 Před 10 měsíci +16

    I guess Sableye is pranking everyone in ADV OU.

  • @DkKobaADV
    @DkKobaADV Před 10 měsíci +77

    they should give this guy magic guard, whats the worst that can happen?

    • @jamesgiles4517
      @jamesgiles4517 Před 10 měsíci +10

      Magic guard is top 5 best abilities in the game however I think sableyes stats are too bad to take advantage of it

    • @helente764
      @helente764 Před 10 měsíci +12

      it wouldn't make it better, prankster is as good as it gets

    • @DkKobaADV
      @DkKobaADV Před 10 měsíci +24

      ok this was a bit of an obscure reference but magic guard sableye was put into a gen 3 environment and it became a top 5 mon immediately because dodging passive damage in ADV is actually pretty OP

    • @chilln0648
      @chilln0648 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@DkKobaADV eh, it’d be good for sure but definetly not top 5. There are pokemon like Skarmory, Claydol, and Flygon that basically ignore passive damage. But if it worked like it does in Gen 4 then it’d likely be top 20, as being immune to full para is huge

    • @DkKobaADV
      @DkKobaADV Před 10 měsíci +14

      @@chilln0648 i mean like we literally played with magic guard sableye and it was able to enable the nastiest stall so.. idk lol. tss is sableye's biggest weaknesses in adv as it needs its HP as much as possible.knock is an OP move. it DID go nuts

  • @Nootathotep
    @Nootathotep Před 10 měsíci +99

    Keen Eye isn't strictly useless, it helps against Ninjask Sand Attack cheese

    • @olivergro7105
      @olivergro7105 Před 10 měsíci +31

      Definitely has to be considered, top tier niche threat :')

    • @Nootathotep
      @Nootathotep Před 10 měsíci +11

      @@olivergro7105 I've seen it more than once

    • @CubeBizz
      @CubeBizz Před 10 měsíci +3

      Not allowed in Smogon formats

    • @duckymomo7935
      @duckymomo7935 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@CubeBizztoo bad slogans rules aren’t enforceable in the actual games

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan Před 10 měsíci +12

      ​@@CubeBizzSand Attack is not banned.

  • @PokeMaster22222
    @PokeMaster22222 Před 10 měsíci +16

    I know Dusclops and Dusknoir are far from the best Pokémon, due to their low HP and lack of reliable recovery, but...I can't help but be a fan of them.
    Shiny Dusclops is blood-red, which is an awesome colour, and Dusknoir - c'mon, if you've played Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky before, you'll know why I like Dusknoir. Great character, he is.

  • @switchbro6622
    @switchbro6622 Před 10 měsíci +21

    Funny gem monster

  • @Drby_
    @Drby_ Před 10 měsíci +11

    One thing I love is that claydol has use in gen 3. Such a cool Pokémon and a victim of power creep

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan Před 10 měsíci +3

      Even in gen3ou Claydol isn't easy to use. Too many things it wants to do but can't do them all and gets weaker the more you try to do.

  • @BiffTheBanana
    @BiffTheBanana Před 10 měsíci +74

    Sableye is simply a funny silly guy, and he always has been :)

  • @jimothycool
    @jimothycool  Před 10 měsíci +36

    Alakazam has quite a unique role in Gen 3 OU. Click the Great link below to learn why.
    czcams.com/video/NTFpQG0cqtA/video.html

    • @IdentifiantE.S
      @IdentifiantE.S Před 10 měsíci +2

      Alakazam is really fun for sure !

    • @vicksin
      @vicksin Před 10 měsíci +1

      but when will we find the Paradox Future form of Great Link?

  • @shevankaseneviratne1724
    @shevankaseneviratne1724 Před 10 měsíci +11

    its also neutral to pursuit! Love that guy! Visuak design is so cool! Him and duclops definietly deserve better!

  • @cheez-itmcgee
    @cheez-itmcgee Před 10 měsíci +10

    love using sableye in gen 9 randbats... me when will-o-wisp knock off recover 😍 anyways great vid!

  • @yourdagan
    @yourdagan Před 10 měsíci +16

    I actually am one of those pros who has used Sableye in Gen3OU. I even beat keeping it icy on ladder too, although Sableye didn't do much that particular game: yqdfsp vs keeping it icy.
    I originally wrote this comment with links to everything, but CZcams's spam filter kept hiding it, so you'll have to take my word for it.
    I built the team myself, which I'll post in the comment below this one.
    As reflected in the usage stats, I started using it in March, picked things up in April, and unbeknownst to me, evidently according to the usage stats, ABR I guess started using it in May, which was also the culminating point of my time using it. You can see the Psych Up set and my Calm Mind set both represented, getting Sableye 29th rank in 1760 usage (and the mindblowing 89% viability ceiling) despite only having 514 games total:
    I won't speak for ABR's set and I won't take credit for his accomplishment, but I do have my own credible perspective as someone who reached high 1500s with this team exclusively.
    I simply don't care for Gengar and wanted to use anything else possible. I have this same exact team with a Misdreavus in it instead, which works differently obviously but not necessarily worse.
    But I like many other people have a particular fondness for Sableye as a design and have relied upon it in other metas to great effect. I wanted to give it a big chance while I had strong reason to use it, which was needing a spinblocker.
    Sableye has okay bulk, honestly not bulky enough if you go just about half and half, which almost necessitates lopsided stat distribution, but I wanted it to be usable against all spinners, not just Claydol or Starmie.
    It has no weaknesses so can't be Pursuit killed or fatally Shadow Ball'd, it has Recover for longevity few other Ghosts have, and it has Knock Off so it's always extremely useful even if it only gets one (1) move in the whole game.
    I gave it Calm Mind in the absence of other options, but this allows it to actually withstand special attackers, particular Starmie and Gengar, better, and because Knock Off is special it is favored to win the 1v1 as it's boosting.
    I saved a bunch of replays demonstrating how Sableye does, but I think this one encapsulates every non-spinblocking scenario in one match: yqdfsp vs JL PL.
    It takes Explosions and weak attackers, removes longevity and power, walls special attackers. I loved using it, but there's no denying it's hard to fit and isn't splashable.
    Still, I earnestly assert that Sableye is a viable Ghost type in gen3ou. It's not "terrible", but it really needs support and the right team compositions to shine.

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan Před 10 měsíci +1

      The Sableye team:
      Suicune @ Leftovers
      Ability: Pressure
      Shiny: Yes
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
      Bold Nature
      IVs: 0 Atk
      - Surf
      - Ice Beam
      - Calm Mind
      - Rest
      Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
      Ability: Sturdy
      Shiny: Yes
      EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
      Quiet Nature
      - Earthquake
      - Zap Cannon
      - Rapid Spin
      - Spikes
      Blissey @ Leftovers
      Ability: Natural Cure
      Shiny: Yes
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
      Bold Nature
      IVs: 0 Atk
      - Seismic Toss
      - Thunder Wave
      - Wish
      - Soft-Boiled
      Sableye (M) @ Leftovers
      Ability: Keen Eye
      Shiny: Yes
      EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 128 SpD / 4 Spe
      Calm Nature
      IVs: 0 Atk
      - Knock Off
      - Seismic Toss
      - Calm Mind
      - Recover
      Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
      Ability: Intimidate
      EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spe
      Adamant Nature
      IVs: 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe
      - Hidden Power [Flying]
      - Earthquake
      - Rock Slide
      - Dragon Dance
      Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
      Ability: Immunity
      EVs: 252 HP / 188 Atk / 64 Def / 4 Spe
      Careful Nature
      - Body Slam
      - Shadow Ball
      - Curse
      - Rest

    • @jeremiahdulin1236
      @jeremiahdulin1236 Před 10 měsíci +1

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      @jeremiahdulin1236 Před 10 měsíci

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    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan Před 10 měsíci

      I've noticed 2 replies have been added to this post, but CZcams has hidden them. If you are one of the repliers and get this comment alert, I encourage you to rewrite your comment.
      CZcams automatically hides comments with outgoing links, so try to rephrase your references in ways that won't get filtered; keep a copy handy in case it still doesn't go through, and keep trying till it does.

  • @LoDart210
    @LoDart210 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I keep forgetting ADV doesn't have team preview. When you were saying it can switch in on a predict psychic I thought for a second "why would that happen if they see sableye and no gengar..."
    perhaps if possible, ADV tourney recaps would be cool. I don't follow the meta but it seems really interesting so commentary would be really cool.

  • @japethspeaketh7034
    @japethspeaketh7034 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Metagross: You shouldn't be here
    Sableye: Yet here I am
    **will-o-wisp-ed you**
    Metagross: OH NOOEE, I HAVE BEEN CRIPPLED.

  • @haidynwendlandt2479
    @haidynwendlandt2479 Před 10 měsíci +39

    I love Gen 3 OU, it’s probably the most balanced metagame in history honestly

    • @DJFracus
      @DJFracus Před 10 měsíci +2

      DPP UU is easily the most balanced meta ever, it's not even particularly close

  • @hakkbak
    @hakkbak Před 10 měsíci +2

    Fun fact: Sableye in gen3 had NO type weaknesses.
    Psychic didn't affect it
    Dark was Neutral
    Ghost was neutral
    Fairy didn't exist

  • @adnagapot
    @adnagapot Před 10 měsíci +2

    Dusclops is one of my favorite pokemon of all time, I hunted it for hours in sapphire because of it's lower spawn rate just to run it on my team, and it's rise to the spotlight in early gen 8 vgc was super fun

  • @FrostGlader
    @FrostGlader Před 10 měsíci +4

    Sableye is an absolute goonish goblin and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

  • @misters6749
    @misters6749 Před 10 měsíci +12

    Man I wonder what the Mug is up to in the past.
    Perhaps it wants to recruit missingno?

  • @dimanthehedghog
    @dimanthehedghog Před 10 měsíci +3

    When you think of Sableye you may also think if it's incredible card in the TCG from the Lost Origin set lol

  • @beechteeth
    @beechteeth Před 10 měsíci +1

    at this point I'm here more for updates on Iron Mugulus than Pokéfacts

  • @IronVigilante451
    @IronVigilante451 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Video on chandalure/armarouge? Maybe even past paradox forms Iron knife and Spicy urn

  • @RainbowLizardOne
    @RainbowLizardOne Před 10 měsíci +4

    Speaking of weird "bad" pokemon that people are using: the latest ORAS viability rankings now ranks Cofagrigus over Heatran, Keldeo and Lando-T. I have no idea exactly what resulted in this, but it's quite funny.

    • @SPZ-gv2on
      @SPZ-gv2on Před 10 měsíci +4

      Good matchup into the best pokemon in the tier (excadrill), blocks rapid spin, helps deal with mega medicham, spams wisp in a gen where burn does 12% a turn, and sets up toxic spikes in a meta with few viable poison types to remove them. Very nice bulky support mon

    • @ThatGuyThai
      @ThatGuyThai Před 10 měsíci +2

      He also passes his ability to pursuit slaking to lose Truant for cheese

    • @jouheikisaragi6075
      @jouheikisaragi6075 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@ThatGuyThaiwait, how can you pass Mummy to your own mon in singles? Or do you mean that it gets countered by the weirdo who brings Slaking to OU?

    • @ThatGuyThai
      @ThatGuyThai Před 5 měsíci

      @@jouheikisaragi6075 you switch cofag into a physical hit, they will obtain mummy. You kill yourself with curse or hard switch and Slaking comes in. They try to run, you pursuit. They stay in you pursuit. Now you have mummy.

    • @jouheikisaragi6075
      @jouheikisaragi6075 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ThatGuyThai this sounds like the greatest meme strat to pull.

  • @peternicholas3719
    @peternicholas3719 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Curse Snorlax? In the year of our lord??? I thought that boy fell off.

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan Před 10 měsíci +2

      It's still a top tier threat no matter how BKC feels.

  • @imisssaku
    @imisssaku Před 10 měsíci +1

    I flinched every time you said sabble-eye. I love you.

  • @Rexis102
    @Rexis102 Před 10 měsíci +1

    3:12 This Gengar had an answer for that entire team and not a single ghost or poison type move lmao

  • @rayyaninspookymonth1630
    @rayyaninspookymonth1630 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Holy cow the crew traveledback in time!!! Barbieharmer island

  • @dylanf3108
    @dylanf3108 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What I love about Gen 3 is sure there are staples of the format but you don’t have to absolutely run any of them like what Gen 5 was especially pre Excadrill ban or Gen 6 with Lando T or Gen 1 with Snorlax.

  • @highlyvenomoustoad
    @highlyvenomoustoad Před 3 měsíci

    Hey Jim can you do a video on Gen 4 UU I am really enjoying it

  • @vidrenth841
    @vidrenth841 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I know sab-leye makes more sense but in my head it's always been sable-eye xddd

  • @SuperUmizoomi
    @SuperUmizoomi Před 10 měsíci +6

    to me the appeal of sableye is the ghost dark typing, it had no weakness pre gen6, (spiritomb is better but were talking gen3) so if you get wonder guard on it, either by playing hackmons or some wild skill swap shenanigans, you're basically immune to direct damage (you still get hit by status moves tho)

  • @Justout133
    @Justout133 Před 4 měsíci

    Hold up what was that nasty trap remix at the end

  • @Xpwnxage
    @Xpwnxage Před 10 měsíci

    While I am terrified of the scourge of IronMugulis, I will not be fear momgered into subscribing. Do you really think that little of your viewer base?
    Okay fine I'll subscribe.

  • @appluntin2680
    @appluntin2680 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This is what's good about Pokemon,if you have a small niche that no one has, you will see the slightest niche no matter your stats

  • @andre-8420
    @andre-8420 Před 10 měsíci +1

    At least Great Mugs has not fallen to the darkness. Made me happy to see it missing k the lineup

  • @Mixxium
    @Mixxium Před 2 měsíci

    When I was a child and first playing through gen 3, I had simply assumed that sableye evolved into Darkrai, I also pronounced it sable eye, so the name's kind of linked up too

  • @gembish1681
    @gembish1681 Před 10 měsíci +15

    I love Sableye to the point where I'll go onto Anything Goes with a full squad of the little guys and see how long I can survive, but even I'll admit that Prankster goes a long way in making Sableye any type of viable. Fascinating to see that even early, weaker Sableye has potential, albeit extremely niche!

  • @nxxdle_
    @nxxdle_ Před 10 měsíci

    shoutout viper at the end

  • @Mega_Umbreon
    @Mega_Umbreon Před 10 měsíci

    Ok I'll bite, what's the significance of the adjective before "end screen" at the end of the videos? It changes pretty often, it was funny for a bit but I'm not sure why.

  • @misters6749
    @misters6749 Před 10 měsíci +16

    Man I’m just dying to get a Ghost/Rock mon. The ‘eye was perfect butzzzz

    • @mr.sandman7339
      @mr.sandman7339 Před 10 měsíci +12

      They're allergic to that typing. Sableye, Spiritomb, Runerigus, Golurk (the last two are considered more clay than rock but stranger things have happened in Pokemon). Galarian Corsola and Cursola are the most egregious ones esp since Johtonian Corsola is already a rock-type.

    • @misters6749
      @misters6749 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@mr.sandman7339 I know right! Maybe they are cooking up something special for us? Possibly?

    • @tonberry2670
      @tonberry2670 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Weaknesses to Water, grass, ground, dark, AND ghost, all of which are extremely common and meta relevant types, on a Pokemon which is more likely than not going to be slow and tanky isn't exactly a good fit

    • @misters6749
      @misters6749 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@tonberry2670 we ain’t gotta make it bulky and defensive though. Just like how all ice mom’s ain’t gotta be slowcoaches.

    • @mr.sandman7339
      @mr.sandman7339 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@tonberry2670 Not every pokemon has to be a top-tier OU threat to be viable and in any case, I don't think we can count it out competitively. By the time we get a ghost/rock, the meta will be completely different from what it is now. And if it's built like Garganacl or Skeledirge, it'll work out just fine, esp with a unique typing.
      Besides, we have Ttar who's weak to water, grass, ground, fairy, steel, and U-turn and is 4x WEAK to fighting rather than immune. And he just now fell to UU after 20+ years of being a consistent OU staple.

  • @hokumao1754
    @hokumao1754 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Video at the best time.

  • @zobirisking706
    @zobirisking706 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Sableye is my favorite Pokemon of all time :)

  • @hassanshams2783
    @hassanshams2783 Před 10 měsíci +4

    tbh should be a rock type cause the gems

  • @Mixxium
    @Mixxium Před 10 měsíci +1

    I used to think as a small boy that sableye evolved into darkrai

  • @koizumi8226
    @koizumi8226 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Can you maybe explain different types of Teams? I’m so confused 😅

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan Před 10 měsíci

      Offense: a team that focuses on using strong attacks to win.
      Hyper Offense: an offensive team that relies upon maintaining the momentum as much and as long as possible, achieved through a combination of speed and pivoting.
      Bulky Offense: an offensive team that trades momentum for durability.
      Baton Pass: a team, almost always offensive in nature, that passes certain stat boosts to set-up sweepers.
      Balance: a team with a mixture of offensive and defensive mons and strategies.
      Stall: a team mostly defensive in nature, often relying upon mostly passive and indirect damage, walling, and healing to win.
      TSS (Toxic Sandstorm Spikes): a kind of balance (or stall) team that's focused on using the eponymous passive damage to whittle down the opposition over the course of a game.
      Superman: a team mostly or fully composed of non-grounded mons, meant to ignore Spikes.
      Mixed Offense: a team comprised of mixed attackers who theoretically cannot be walled by any or most mons in the metagame.
      Magneton Offense: primarily, a team that allows for physical offensive spam by removing certain Steel types that would ordinarily prevent the strategy from working; also can allow forgoing hazard control.
      "Special Spam": the same idea as above, but using Dugtrio to remove special walls.

  • @Bartre_God
    @Bartre_God Před 10 měsíci +6

    Sab-Lie?🤨

    • @virtualcolt
      @virtualcolt Před 10 měsíci

      At least he didnt say Sabledge like I used to when my english sucked 😅. Yeah dont even ask how my fucked up english back then reached that.

  • @AI-DreigonGPT
    @AI-DreigonGPT Před 10 měsíci

    We need Iron Mugulis Crew in Minecraft ( i mean Garganacl is already in it )

  • @chess_fella
    @chess_fella Před 10 měsíci +2

    I’m going to use Sableye in Gen 3

  • @kyleflett106
    @kyleflett106 Před 10 měsíci

    I used to use a monotype gen 5 ghost team on showdown with sableye as my ace. Good times

  • @aznlalaland
    @aznlalaland Před 10 měsíci

    I just remember this thing as the first Pokémon without any weaknesses when it was released.

  • @dannyorrmedia
    @dannyorrmedia Před 10 měsíci +2

    I guess the people who said this Pokémon was unviable in OU were telling a lie... A SAB LIE

  • @rockvent918
    @rockvent918 Před 10 měsíci

    great value spiritomb doing work

  • @ThatGuyThai
    @ThatGuyThai Před 10 měsíci +3

    Single unique thing a bad mon can do, Nintales -> Overheat -> Psych Up. Enjoy lol

    • @ThatGuyThai
      @ThatGuyThai Před 10 měsíci

      Basically if you're - any stat you can Psych Up against an unboosted mon to get into Neutral. This serves as a potential +2/4/6 depending on how much you pressed overheat.
      The best is when Suicune comes in, I overheat -2. They Calm Mind, I Sub. I Psych Up and they Surf/Hydro Pump. I went from -2 to +1/1. Now I Roar. Can Overheat again, now at +1.
      It's pretty weak, but its a Fire move with phasing. A great partner to Forretress for the Flash Fire baits and Spikes damage from Roar.
      Notably Primeape and Exploud I think can do this too, minus the roar part...I think?

  • @graveleater9746
    @graveleater9746 Před 10 měsíci

    I just noticed it... But is that Viper in the outro?

  • @MrShadowThief
    @MrShadowThief Před 10 měsíci

    Another great work by Vanilla Ice, the past paradox form of Vanillish.

  • @twotamatos
    @twotamatos Před 10 měsíci

    I like that if it has a random neiche use it’s still got a use the devs really did make checks and balances for everything n the game does still have a lot of what the show talks about if u believe n work hard enough u can use any Pokémon

  • @andrewmcrae3539
    @andrewmcrae3539 Před 9 měsíci

    Actually in gen one explosion only had a base power of 170 so with the halfimg defense its on like a 340

  • @fluordex
    @fluordex Před 9 měsíci +1

    My silly lil guy that prefers to live in a cave, just like me

  • @nunyabiznes33
    @nunyabiznes33 Před 10 měsíci

    One of my fave gen 3. Love this gem gremlin.

  • @sleepyhyrule6894
    @sleepyhyrule6894 Před 9 měsíci

    I've been a long time fan of Sableye. I have a champion line started in Alpha Sapphire.

  • @kirbymontrey3897
    @kirbymontrey3897 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Who's the gargnacle in iron mugulis' gang?

    • @jimothycool
      @jimothycool  Před 10 měsíci +1

      That rogue Garganacl allegedly started a pyramid scheme

  • @datacorrput2158
    @datacorrput2158 Před 10 měsíci +1

    isnt it sabel eye idk i could be wrong like with decidueye pronunciation(fr just asking no critique)

  • @AI-DreigonGPT
    @AI-DreigonGPT Před 10 měsíci

    Iron Stall ( my friend fan made Toxapex form ) realising he is not real ( i mean if he was real it would be Uber if he existed )

  • @vyktorehon5995
    @vyktorehon5995 Před 10 měsíci

    Imagine it it always had prankster

  • @AI-DreigonGPT
    @AI-DreigonGPT Před 10 měsíci

    Can i be gen 1 too just to make a time paradox and be less hated than now ?

  • @dullededge1395
    @dullededge1395 Před 10 měsíci

    iron mugulis has bigger plans then meta game ruining in gen 1 he may be plotting to abuse the missingnoglitch to clone himself to create an army. we need to use gen 1 freeze or wrap to lock him down and end this madness

  • @PlasmaBald
    @PlasmaBald Před 10 měsíci

    Sableye is rapidly becoming one of my favorite pokemon. He’s just a little fucker.

  • @GaMEr-dw1ts
    @GaMEr-dw1ts Před 10 měsíci +1

    RAAAAAHHHHHHHH I FUCKING LOVE SABLEYE SABLEYE IS MY FAVORITE POKEMON LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @2Siders
    @2Siders Před 10 měsíci +2

    My pronounciation: “Say - bol - eye”
    My parents pronounciation: “Pikachu”

  • @BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
    @BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB Před 10 měsíci +2

    Gen 3 OU still one of the best OU ever

  • @honjon666
    @honjon666 Před 10 měsíci

    Jim would never leye to us about adv ou

  • @VangolaGear
    @VangolaGear Před 10 měsíci +1

    I’ve never once heard Sableye pronounced as Sab-lie. I’ve always heard it pronounced Sable-eye

  • @mistergrool3941
    @mistergrool3941 Před 10 měsíci

    shoutout to the guy on smogon forums who made a thread unironically asking for sableye to be banned in gen 3 ou

  • @Zthewise
    @Zthewise Před 9 měsíci

    Turns out stats aren't everything. A unique typing and proper move pool can play just as important of a factor. Who knew right? Makes the little shadow gremlin more endearing hearing about its success.

  • @endy7630
    @endy7630 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Why are you saying Sableye like that...

  • @cowboyevan
    @cowboyevan Před 10 měsíci +3

    Love the Gen 3 content

  • @tornadoduck
    @tornadoduck Před 10 měsíci +1

    Wouldn't starmie be a better check than claydol for gengar, given it can ohko and is faster than gengar?

    • @tbolt__
      @tbolt__ Před 10 měsíci

      Starmie doesn't always run Psychic, which is the move it wants to hit Gar with. Additionally, Claydol is a good check for many variants of DD Tar and CB Tar, and has less moves it desperately wants. Starmie, beyond spin and Water STAB, wants Ice Beam for Dragons, Tbolt for Waters, Recover for longevity, and Psychic for Gengar. Meanwhile, Claydol, beyond EQ and Spin, chooses from Psychic, Explosion, Refresh, and maybe Ice Beam. Starmie is more threatening offensively, but in turn, Claydol is sturdier defensively.

    • @TheSlottedPig
      @TheSlottedPig Před 10 měsíci +1

      Gengar commonly uses a lot of hp and special defense in adv to deal with pursuit tar more effectively and spread burns in general. Timid starmie never ohkos this gengar and even modest is a 50% roll (plus gengar could go even bulkier, timid gengar outspeeds etc)

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@TheSlottedPigthis
      psychic doesn't kill
      I experimented with Camouflage and that would be a guaranteed way to outlast Gengar, but it isn't useful enough in other situations and sacrifices too much of a moveslot

    • @shadownite3378
      @shadownite3378 Před 10 měsíci +1

      the issue with starmie is that its frail and unlike claydol is vulnerable to passive damage like sand and spikes. Starmie can run psychic if it wants but it has the issue of four moveslot syndrome where it wants to run other moves but just cant really fit em. Claydol also matches up better against certain relevant threats like like physical tar and Aero, and you really want a reliable rock resist.

    • @ThatGuyThai
      @ThatGuyThai Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@TheSlottedPig in the scenario you presented though, bulky gar wouldn't kill starmie on the crackback. So you do just outright beat it if you're packing psychic provided they aren't going to just explode.
      You grab claydol if you need an explosion, rock resist, electric immunity, or psychic / ice coverage.
      The gengar I use to spin block blows up claydols after taking his psychic or hitting him with IP and then exploding...this is with no defensive investment.
      Claydol's psychic isn't going to kill bulky gar either but I opted to give him the special attack needed to kill mences, and as a byproduct, it can cover most gars too. I actually drop rapid spin to cover both threats and run spin on another mon like forry or starmie. As a result claydol has no defensive evs, but has the natural bulk to take 2 hits of HP with leftys, or 1 hit of just about anything and crack back with explosion, ice beam, psychic or earthquake

  • @flygawnebardoflight
    @flygawnebardoflight Před 10 měsíci

    My main prediction here is that Will-o-wisp Gengar will rise. Burning a Psychic-less Claydol is huge, and it gives your team a better Ghost Type. It's a bit inconsistent of a move, but the variance should be in Gengar's favor.

    • @ThatGuyThai
      @ThatGuyThai Před 10 měsíci

      Honestly, my favorite gengar packs focus punch, explosion and bolt beam.
      Will o wisp is solid and bulky gar is good but all those interactions pale in comparison to 100%ing a tyranitar on the switch in, and then blowing up their follow up. I think we're going to see more of those packing lum berry for the punches than WOW.

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan Před 10 měsíci

      @@ThatGuyThai We should, but we won't.

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 Před 9 měsíci

    Sableye has access to Night Shade. Night Shade would be more useful should Sableye find itself in a battle against other Ghost type Pokémon.

  • @radvil
    @radvil Před 10 měsíci +4

    Tf did u pronounce sableye

  • @quinndepatten4442
    @quinndepatten4442 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This meta is so cool

  • @rayes119
    @rayes119 Před 10 měsíci +1

    One of my favorite pokemon

  • @PansyPops
    @PansyPops Před 10 měsíci

    Could be worse, at least Sabeleye didn’t have Stall in gen 3

  • @wowwt
    @wowwt Před 10 měsíci

    Blaziken video when

  • @SteveScapesYT
    @SteveScapesYT Před 10 měsíci

    That is soooo cool… but no WoW on ADV Sableye is so BA GF, cmon

  • @Eddie_Enfer
    @Eddie_Enfer Před 9 měsíci

    Seblay grindset

  • @diablorojosincero4040
    @diablorojosincero4040 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Sablai or sable-eye?

  • @alexham28
    @alexham28 Před 10 měsíci

    I click on these videos for the outro

  • @ultimapower6950
    @ultimapower6950 Před 10 měsíci

    So iron Mugulis’ crew is in gen 1 now? Well in that case I’m just going to activate a couple item swaps and catch the following glitchmons: C1, P, 3trainerpokedollar, women symbol, 94 and f4 and them use them all to send those losers from back to Gamefreak’s garbage can from where they came from.

  • @tiemx2039
    @tiemx2039 Před 10 měsíci

    Those sprites are actually gas

  • @Gray8277
    @Gray8277 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I associate sableye with the tcg 😰