Overwatch 2 Bingo: Spectating GOLD Reinhardt!
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So pretty much what this video has taught us is that Gold is pretty much as chaotic as bronze with slightly better mechanics and questionably better game sense.
You generally don’t see any level of coordination until Diamond. To get out of Gold you just need to not position like someone without a monitor. To get out of Plat you just need to coordinate ults
@Rekcha I meant more like the shield usage. I'm a diamond 1 Rein main that has climbed up from gold and I promise when I was gold I never just stood in choke to let my shield break. Made plenty of other mistakes and wasn't aggressive enough but holding shield until it breaks feels like such a bronze concept to me.
@The Da Guy more likely, there was a change to your gameplay that got you out of gold that carried on into Plat. For example as a Rein I just stopped peeling for my backline and tried to trade, took aggressive positions, and made it my job to pressure hitscan off high ground if they were farming us. Sure gold is wild, but as long as you play enough and are the best player in the lobby making the fewest mistakes, elo hell is a myth.
Gold is weird because you can really tell who is going back down to silver and who really is just stopping by on their way to plat
I think this is where you see a lot of people play their back up roles and definitely smurfs
From experience, yes. I have alway been bordering gold and plat and tbh it's hell climbing as a support but fun and chill (usually) at these ranks.
I love the silent communication you often see in gold games.
hold a shield in front of a bastion, suddenly it's an OW1 pirate ship comp for the rest of the game.
play pharah, suddenly you're running phar-mercy the whole game.
build your ult as reaper, suddenly everyone's trying to set up a really good reaper ult.
run genji and ana, ONLY that genji's getting nano'd even if it kills the whole team.
Bastion Venn Diagram needs to be on the bingo card!!
Just putting bastion on the bingo card would be enough, because when that bastion gets ult you know the Venn Diagram will be there
It'll probably be better for the higher rank spectating
The Rein shield should have been counted as a random ability used. I am very happy you moved to show silver and gold as well. Hopefully this will help me understand different strategies through the tiers. Awesome videos. Keep up the great work!
i would argue the reins charging the walls and the payload also counts as ability randomly used
The ability being randomly used is when ana randomly slept the rein at 16:53
I think she wanted to sleep the bastion but the rein got slept instead
Spectating bingo has become one of my favorite things to watch. CZcams can sometimes feel unstructured vs a traditional tv show but at least I have 20-40 mins of vod review bingo to look forward to multiple times a week.
The shield should count. In the Blizzard notes, it specifically says that Rein’s shield will obtain a 5 second cooldown if it breaks. If your shield is at 1hp, it regenerates to 70hp in 2.5 seconds, you can still put it up immediately to block a last minute earth shatter etc.
But once it breaks, you have 5 second cooldown that is a set, consistent number that is followed every time it breaks. That’s an ability.
6 shield breaks in 1 round is insane
Heck yes!! I do love the bingos too, this should be good!!
I think that Rein's shield should count as a ability randomly used
Like=agree
The point of that card is for cool downs used for no reason. There's no cool down on the shield
@@GardenOf-Eden There is cd if u break the shield. And shield was broken a lot of times
@@hugo9369 if the shield is broken it’s mitigating dmg is it not? Also a regenerating shield is technically not a cooldown. You can take dmg with your shield and regenerate it without breaking the shield.
@@trey5508 Yeah u can regenerate shield without breaking it but that gold player broke it a lot. And when u break a shield it has a 5s cooldown.
I'm a gold one rein player and the fact he kept letting his shield break was so painful
The way I see it, every shield/barrier is an ability. It's a right click but it's not an alt- fire like McCree or Zen and it's not a zoom like Ana or Widow. Therefore it should count
I would love it if Emongg maybe did a high elo bingo with high elo options. Im imagining a masters game where “clutch play”, and “long stagger” are on the bingo card
I love emongg’s positivity ❤
Ah hell nah you got me when you said "that shield might not be up for long, but it'll be there until it breaks" 💀
For ability randomly used, if the Rein shield is recharging, and it's getting put up for no reason which delays it's regen I'd say randomly used, as technically it's delaying the CD via pausing the recharge
When I saw the thumbnail, I almost thought it was me
i like how at 18:05 you can hear someone say: oh f you reinhardt xD
Technically shield has a cooldown if it breaks. Same thing as Defence Matrix, Projected Barrier from Sigma. If they're just doing it to do it, and not for anything to be significantly blocked, then it's random use.
In my opinion it counts as being randomly used because when he puts up it's shield, it hinders the shield regen.
Rein's shield does have a cool down, so it is an ability randomly used
I like this video concept Emongg. It can showcase the good and bad stuck in the medal ranks
Rein shield randomly being used should count as an ability being randomly used. It would be the same thing with ball's transform or crossfade on lucio.
Great video, and I'm looking forward to more Bingo with different ranks!
14:24 was the biggest fumble I’ve ever seen
You should do a spectating mystery heros bingo. You could even do competitive mystery heros.
I feel like mirror matchup is something that never happens in metal ranks
Anything that can go on cooldown is an ability. When a shield breaks, it goes on cooldown while it recharges. So Brigittte, Rein and Sigma all have ability cooldown on shield.
I think the Rein shield counts as an 'ability randomly used' if they let it break when they didn't need to. That's when it goes on cooldown, and if you let it break outside of extreme circumstances, it's as good as wasting any other cooldown.
Yes if your shield break's it takes longer to start regeneration of shield!! Have a dedicated healer and let him carry 🎉😂 you have to be careful in the event your dos is not that good on your team
I think the spirit of "ability randomly used" is that it wastes resources. If Rein was just spamming it up while walking, sure, don't count it, but he's burning shield health and blocking shield regen by randomly using it! Definitely ability randomly used.
Hell yes rein shield is an ability and it was not only randomly used it was randomly abused
The random shield usage should count als randomly using ability
I’m between high diamond and low masters on every role, and there are still plenty of “everybody presses Q” moments
I’m glad u moved to different levels than just bronze😁
It should count Rein's shield is classified as an Ability.
Reins shield should def count, cooldown argument doesnt even work bc it does have a cooldown when it breaks
Should the attacking through the rein shield count as attacking friendly equipment or does the equipment need to be on the ground?
Pretty sure my Kiriko teleported in front of me when I was trying to nano my ulting Genji on the same day that I learned about the "confirm nano" option or whatever it's called. Haven't accidentally nano-boosted anyone since. Kiriko and I just stopped and looked at each other for a second, I was like "Throw knives! Use it!" and Genji was PISSED
I’ve been like… ‘this isn’t good.’ Then I see the tank die in the middle of the enemy team and I look to the mercy and go ‘y’know what, fuck it. Mercy, get in there.’
And then I nano them as they fly in because why the fuck not at that point.
We got a bingo boiiis
Venn diagram in general needs to be on the bingo card. This'd count for any intersecting circular ults/abilities. Mei ult, Sig ult, Orisa ult, Lamp, etc
that "so" at the beggining of almost every video gives me life.
“Missed a pin that should’ve pinned”
Happens more often than you think
I'm surprised he hasn't started this earlier because this is literally free content
Reins might randomly shield to get a larger Field of View or to mitigate any non lethal damage if they see someone far away, maybe it's pointless to do so but it's not really random. Randomly used would be like throwing firestrike to their own teammates or charging to advance 2 meters. So no, Shield doesn't count.
i would say rein's shield use doesn't count as random, not because it isn't an ability, but because it wasn't random. the shield wouldn't've kept breaking if he wasn't blocking anything. you could argue it was ineffective or inefficient, or a poor usage, but i don't think it could really be characterized as random.
I don't recall that we ever had a bingo
24:24 funny rionhardt rag doll kill
You could do a 1 total mayhem top 500 vs 5 bronzes
You should add mystery rank bingo to mix bingo with guess my SR
Can we please get Venn diagram on the bingo card 😂
What is attacking friendly equipment? Our Rein fire striked and charged into the cart multiple times.
It should count assuming the shield breaks while randomly shielding
I think mirror matchup do to the fact that both teams had a rein, mercy, and ashe
lol Emongg you have to realize that I'm a Rein main and my main spray is the shatter spray. I have to spray the spawn door and then swing my hammer just under it to make it look like scorched earth. It's good luck for me and if I don't then I'll have bad luck so if you ever spectate me you will see it. I'm Gold 5 currently with a 72% winrate in comp with Rein. I just have spray.
You should add counter swapping to the bingo card
rein shield shouldn't count. No cooldown because "it can break" doesn't happen if it's used randomly. Means no fire coming in. And there's no drawback. It would be like lucio booping out of spawn. Basically, if you count it, it just becomes a free square like "long team fight" where you might as well check it off in the beginning.
I would have said the sleep was also pretty random ... like slept for the sake of sleeping
It's not randomly used, putting your shield up at random times could block potential damage, so I don't think it counts as a random ability use if it technically has a use.
That Ana sleep looked pretty random to me though
I think mirror match up should count when it’s a 1v1 mirror since it’s rare for both teams to have the same comp
The argument that reins shield is an ability is that if it breaks the Regen time = cool down but if it broke the shield was used to stop something so it's more like a passive like support passive rein always has shield and if he uses it and it breaks it wasn't random and if he uses and there is no one there it doesn't have a cool down it's more of a passive.
if u count the shield as ability might as well count bullets as ability cos the reload time would count as cool down.
How do you apply for one of these
i dont think that using shield randomly counts but the (friendly) ana kept using sleep randomly
If you nano a Moira ult, I know it does increased damage, but does the healing get increased as well?
I dont think so, but I am not an expert, so don't take my word for it
No it doesn’t, nano solely gives increased damage and damage reduction both being 50%
@@Truly_tht_Guy I never knew about the damage reduction, thank you.
@@Havocme7 no problem, it’s just that the damage reduction is overlooked because once someone gets a nano it’s either a team wipe with it or they’re are the primary focus target
@@Truly_tht_Guy Is the DR even listed in the F1 menu? I've been finding lots of abilities with unmentioned benefits over the years.
I look at rein randomly shielding like Pharah randomly flying. Still random but not quite an ability
Rein’s shield should count as an ability randomly used:)
I would say the random shield usage should have counted. When you go to reins hero info, the shield is an ability, not a passive, not the name of the gun, it is an ability.
Edit: saying that it isn’t an ability because of the zero second cooldown would make sojourns railgun not an ability.
Or zen orbs as well
@@heyyou9903 true
id say it counts, regen-cooldown are pretty similar
You know, it would be interesting if you make a high rank bingo card
Even in plat/dia I watch my team hold that far forward on defense and I hate it with every fiber of my being
(And no, I don't think the shield should count as an ability randomly used.)
i think randomly used means when ya do it really random, trying to predict Rein to push and nade him, has a purpose? Rein shield is hard one tho, if you use it to get 3rd person view its not random but it has purpose? even it looks random.
"It should be abilities with cooldowns" 🤓
Someone's never broken a shield before
put "broken keyboard" on the board! lol
EVERY SLAM IS A BIG SLAM
-EMONGG
Nanoing an ulting Moira can be pretty nuts....
I call it the Ciaro Ken times 2 Killkenny-meh-ha
I think Rein was using the shield to look around corners, so I wouldn't call it random necessarily
Shield should definitely count
I dont think it should count. Having a shield up is helpful and I shield to get the 3rd person view so it's not random
For Rein's shield, I don't see it as an ability
But more like a Secondary weapon.
While it isn't a weapon, you can't swing hammer while using shield, so you're effectively swapping equipment.
So it's not an ability.
Does that bastion even turret form?
yea it should be
Maybe in a Diamond or masters bingo that would count for me
shield spamming isnt an ability... however, when u start that argument, bap throws and random immortality field
Shield should most definitely count
Has mirror matchup ever happened? I don't think it ever happens in my games
Binged all of the bronze/gold bingos and i see this further down in the comments to but bastion should be on the next card with how frequent we see him
@@christinaazarian6803 bastion on da bingo got me hype!
If rein putting their shield up randomly doesn’t count I believe half of the charges in this game should be. I’m not the best rein in the world, but my goodness I can see a random charge from a mile away
So can someone explain to me what's the difference between your shield breaking and not letting it break? To me, it seems like it takes the same amount of time to start recharging either way.
It takes twice as long to start recharging if it breaks, and you can't use it until it does, whereas if it doesn't break, you can shield immediately again if you need to block something
@@zwerchau Ah I see, that makes sense, thank you.
Did anyone catch that we heard the rein player voice around 18:00 min saying F u when he got pinned?
Reinhardt Shield should probably NOT count. BUT. At the same time, you called Anas sleep random. Which is an ability with a cooldown.
Oh yeaaaaa
Given that most of the bronze games do not yield a bingo and seeing that the first gold game resulted in a bingo while using the bronze metrics, does this mean that a gold game is more bronze than a bronze game?
Such a maddening part of overwatch is staggering. The only reason that it exists is because of a sort of prisoners dilemma: people don't group up because they either don't care or they think that their teammates don't. In theory this results in unnecessary unorganized play in levels where it shouldn't be at. A system of forced grouping up should be implemented. I think this can be explored with role queue and how after it was implemented team comps were forced into organization.
I feel like such a fundamental issue with low ELO is that it is frustrating to play and consistently under-rewarding in your rank. Overwatch just makes no sense: they make you move through ranks at a snails pace (a choice that impacts players in ELO hell) then does stuff like nerfing Genii and juicing Sojourn (making lower ranks more fair while enraging higher levels of play)
I think it should count as randomly used
Haven’t played much this season, can someone help me understand the rank inflation? What did the devs change?
Should holding shield count? It’s literally called “ability 2” on mouse2 is it not? For sure should count imo
Love the videos. Appreciate the high octane gaming.
nah, shield is called "alternate fire" as all m2 abilities are
For the sake of that item on the board, you wouldn't count Soldier's sprint as an ability, Shield is also not an ability
Wait a minute this isn’t bronze. Lol