LMGT3 Class EXPLAINED
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- What is the LMGT3 Class? The WEC as introduced a new GT category for 2024, to run alongside the Hypercar Class. GT3 step rules will be replace the previous GTE regulations. For this video I explain the regulations, the differences between GTE and GT3, why it will be successful, the entries, and much more! This is everything you need to know, about the LMGT3 category.
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I cant wait for Lemans it may be the best race of the year next year. Itll be amazing seeing 20+ hypercars at the start
@@MrGoombasticveryFantasticwill there be 20+?? Who are the extra entries gonna be
@@edsalt5281 Well theres 19 now it would be silly to not think that at least 1 team is going to enter another car to increase odds of winning. 2025 will probably see 25+
Yup
@edsalt5281 some of the imsa entries will come over
Cheaper cars mean more manufactures, endurance is doing a great work at reducing costs 👍🏻
Very true!
Especially compared to the massive barriers to entry of F1
The disadvantage would be cars will become slower though. Hypercars (LMH and LMDh) are too slow compared to LMP1 during the last decade, even the last decade's LMP2 cars are faster than Hypercars, but LMP1 had to be retired due to costs, and GTE also needs to be retired for same reason, especially that it's only a little faster than GT3 despite the huge cost difference.
@@hikari2752that's not a disadvantage at all. Better to have slower cars than only just having Toyota committing to WEC.
@@salmanfarruz It is a disadvantage. It's one we're willing to live with because the pros outweigh that con, but that doesn't take away the fact that having slower cars is a disadvantage. One thing doesn't take away the other.
I have a feeling that this will be a really competitive class next year
I heard that the reason there's only 2 cars per manufacturer is to stop one particular manufacturer from taking up majority of the grid slots
Porsche?
That is correct. Companies with hypercar entries were guaranteed 2 spots on the grid. Porsche, Corvette (though Caddy), Ferrari, Lambo, Lexus (through Toyota), BMW, Aston Martin ( hypercar in 2025) were automatics. Ford got in through its affiliation with Proton and for having been a full time GTE entry in the past. McLaren was the oddball. Probably got in only due to being run by WEC stalwart team United Autosport.
@@Smoked_Cheddar Ferrari. Although Porsche & Aston Martin had multiple entries in WEC and ELMS, Ferrari had more cars than those two manufacturers. I saw a tweet that said in the early years of the ELMS, most of the GTE field was represented by Ferrari. Additionally, the GT Am grid of WEC was also mostly represented by Ferrari through AF Corse running their cars under different banners such as Spirit of Race, etc.
@@WyldStallion-bs9oo Being McLaren probably didn't hurt their case, that is a name that has recognition in a way another random car might not.
@@DamienE11They blocked Mercedes or Audi from getting in. I’d say those are both pretty recognizable brands
FIA WEC LMGT3 BOP is one hell of an acronym.
I think it was a good call. I watched plenty of the Fanatec GT World Championship races this year where GT3 specifications are used and they did race really good and every race we had different podium combinations. Let's hope this is passed on to the WEC as well!!
The one good thing I got from the pandemic was discovering the Fanatic series replays in Europe and the US during all time locked up with CZcams as primary entertainment. Now that WEC has so many more manufacturers, including those from those series, the racing should be fantastic.
GT3 has been a pretty successful category in recent years globally. The racing in IMSA has been fantastic and I believe it will work well for WEC. They say that variety is the spice of life so to see so many manufacturers involved can...hopefully...only be a good thing. I am excited for the future of endurance racing!
GTE made sense when we still had teams like Toyota, Porsche, Audi spending F1-level budgets on LMP1 programs. Now that Hypercar is a lot more affordable, it makes sense to switch to GT3 for GT-series racing, when it's already universally used and recognized. I will miss P2 though, no doubt, although it'd become a 'single makes' category a while ago since nobody could keep up with Ligier. Plus with WEC/IMSA convergence everyone wins in endurance racing.
I thought they all ran the Oreca Chassis
Can’t wait to see how the GT3 class goes on. As we’ve seen in IMSA the GT3 racing is awesome and if everything goes great, we could see a repeat of the 2018 24 Hours of Le Mans with a HUGE GT3 class with at least 9 manufacturers, maybe 10 if Sainteloc can win the championship in the AsLMS. Combine this with a big LMH grid with some LMP2’s scattered in, I’m expecting some Super GT/IMSA type of racing where the top class is all in a battle coming up on the rear of a huge GT3 field. Really stoked to see how this season goes and who will come on top. We’ll get our first teaser with Daytona in a little over a month and then Qatar a month later.
If Sainteloc do win the AsLMS championship, they would have to run a Porsche or Lamborghini at Le Mans as there are no Audis in WEC so they can't race the Audi at Le Mans due to BoP. Same goes if a Mercedes team wins the AsLMS but they don't really have another brand they could realistically swap to.
@@maxb4085 No, that rule was overturned and if Sainteloc were to win they could bring the Audi’s over. The BoP is already set with AsLMS which can easily translate over to WEC plus the are other BoP figures for Audi in other championships. Same possibility for Mercedes.
@huskiegaming_ Can I just ask where you saw this, because from what I can see there hasn't been a change of rules. Not saying you are wrong just want to be up to date. The latest I can find from a quick search is Sportscar365 from November 7th saying non-WEC GT3 teams are still not able to race at Le Mans.
@@huskiegaming_i wonder what is Mercedes WEC LMGT3 driver lineup gonna look like? If they race full time possibly they gonna field Rene Rast and Kanan Matsuura or Alexander Sims and Honoka Kousaka.
@@purwantiallan5089 Well there isn’t a Merc LMGT3 since their entry got rejected. I believe GetSpeed was going to be the team that was planning on running the entry iirc.
one thing you didn't mention was GTE were only raced in selected series like WEC, ELMS and IMSA where as GT3 is a global class, not just in IMSA, it's in both international and domestic like British GT, international GT, GTWC (America, Europe/Endurence, Asia and Australia) as well as some others
I think it was a good idea to switch to GT3. I'm hyped to see Ford and especially BMW beeing back in the GT class of WEC.
Thanks so much for this! It's much more clear now to me what the differences are.
You deserve so much more views and subs. They will come, cheers!
Really appreciate this comment, and so happy the video was informative! Thank you so much for your your support
Agreed 👍
You missed a big point.
LMGT3 is like the GTE-AM a Pro-AM Class. So only 1 Pro (Gold or Platinum) driver per car is allowed. The other has to be bronze or Silver driver by FIA license. (Rossi is a Silver Driver btw)
But I’m still excited to see this GT3 field with the Hypercars at the same time 👌
Good to know for future videos. Thanks for letting me know!
@@FormulaJonah looking forward to the new videos. I like your content :)
Keep up the good work 🤌
Thank you! So happy you like the videos!
@@bjoerndn2hopefully 2024 WEC can be as intense as MotoGP 2016 and 2020 Season where there are too many different winners.
@@purwantiallan5089 Yes i hope so too. But it looks good. Good teams and good pro drivers are competing so every race should be a close call.
Thanks a lot Jonah.... A perfect explanation about new GT class...
All my respect for you work!
I’m happy to hear you enjoyed this video and found it informative. I really appreciate this!
Excellent explanation of the changes. I love that we will see a big field of 9 different manufacturers.
Thank you! I’m happy that you liked the video!
Giving the people what they want, thanks homie
About Audi: I am not sure you will see them on the endurance grid for 2025. The company seems to be in a full swing for F1 plus, the Audi sport outfit seems to be closing up their customer program (which was centred around the R8, a model that itself is sun-seting). Even if they wanted to be on the grid, the question that I would have is this: With what?
As for the change to LMGT3, I will be honest... I think that the die was cast for this when manufacturers started to pull out of GTE while sighting complaints while running out the door. The FIA would not stand to sit still once that begun to happen, else they would have to content with the risk of it all falling apart again. Like what happened with the WSC.
You are completely right. Audi said that as long as they have parts, teams can buy them. When the warehouse is empty, it is done. I read somewhere that Mercedes is busy with the successor for the AMG GT3.
Here is a list with all the GT3 cars and for how long they are allowed.
Fun fact, the Ferrari 458 is still allowed to race next year and the 488 is still allowed till 2028.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_GT3
ty for explaining!
massive IMSA fan here and I can say that WEC fans are absolutely going to love this switch. IMSA is so close and the racing is phenomenal in the the GT3 class. VIR 2024 cant come soon enough.
Ha ha been watching GT3 race at Nurburgring 24 hour for a few years. If you want to see what the GT3s can do have a look at the N24. The last 4 years full races are all officially on CZcams.
I plan to be at VIR next year as well. It’s my favorite track.
Just recently got into WEC, and you're quickly becoming my favorite creator for the sport. I was wondering though...
How can I watch the races once the new season starts? I watch F1 through the F1TV app, is there a similar one for WEC, or a certain company that has broadcast rights that has an app?
You’ll be able to watch the WEC events on their app called “FIA WEC” You can also watch the events on certain platforms across different countries, an example of that is Motortrend for the US. I will also be doing race review for each race in 2024, like I did this year in 2023. In January I will also make a full video, explaining where you can watch the WEC racing. Hope this info helps!
@@FormulaJonah Thanks so much! I started getting interested after the 2023 Le Mans race, and now I'm really getting into it. Can't wait to see your upcoming videos for the new season.
@@winnerloser Do you follow IMSA as well? If you're accustomed to F1, you might want to check it out since WEC and IMSA each have substantially smaller schedules than F1; Daytona's 24 hour race takes place at the end of January.
If you live outside the US, IMSA have their own app/web broadcasts for free; if you're in the US, they're on the streaming platform Peacock.
Great to see a larger range of cars. Having a Mustang and a McLaren balanced in the same class will be excellent, cars with completely different dynamics and strengths makes for good racing.
Very informative video. Keep up the good work.
Thanks you! Will do!
I still kinda wish there was a GT3 Pro and Am classes but i understood why its just GT3 for the sake of simplicity and giving young silvers and gentlemen bronzes a chance. But after seeing battles in GTWC EU, DTM and IMSA GTD Pro. It definitely wouldn't hurt to be able to put full pro driver lineups in GT3 cars.
I would say give it time, because it does feel as if a split like that might be necessary.
I can’t wait! If I’m honest, I only watch F1 because Daniel Ricciardo is my favourite driver. Yes, I’m an Australian. I would watch Australian Touring Cars but it has now become a Trans-Am series. No more Australian made cars. GT racing as I see it is as close as one can get to watching race cars that as the saying goes “win on Sunday, sell on Monday”. Can’t get that in Australian Touring Cars. We have no car manufacturing industry anymore. No more aussie made Holden Commodores, Monaros, Toranas or Ford Falcons. Just a crying shame.
This is phenomenal
well done ❤ Rockin Roll 🏁
Thank you!
Endurance racing is getting way more exciting than F1.
thats why i switched to WEC
Love the adoption of the GT3 regs. The closer the racecars are to the street cars, the better.
short of mustang GTD, there are close to nothing in common between road going cars and their GT3 counterparts.
Next year is going to be fire 🔥
INTERESTING 🤩🤩🤩
Great video :) I hope in Ferrari as always but now I'm racing also eith McLaren on ACC ( about 400 hours in total on the simulator ) . And I'm happy for the return of Ford :) ( I have only fords in family ahahaha)
That’s cool you race McLarens on ACC! Ford are great cars, that’s awesome you have them in your family. Thanks for watching the video, and glad you enjoyed!
Definately looking forward to the new regs
This is honestly another golden era of racing. I knew it from the start GTP/LMH was special.... the stacked GT3 field is going to be another crazy addition to already awesome and frequent race and champ battles.
Waiting for Mercedes, Audi, Nissan, Acura, Bentley
I can’t believe I will be seeing them in imola next year 🙌🏾😭
How cool! Hope you have a lot of fun!
French fan of Endurance GT3/GT4 class here ! The differences between GTE & GT3 are really in the end not that much : it's +/-5 sec on qualification time around Spa Francorchamps for exemple... As you said, different rules, motor specifications.. Resulting in the fact that only the manufacturers themselfs did participate in GTE. In the other hand you've 50+ GT3 lauching each event week end, all over the EU (for EU challenge), and it's mighty !
Great move to GT3-regulations, only sad to see LMP2-class removed. Not particulary for the cars, but it gave (younger) drivers a chance to get familiarized with the LMP-type cars
Agreed. LMP2 was an important class in the series. Highly competitive with much lower costs compared to LMP1 or the newer Hypercar class. I hope they bring the class back at some point.
IMSA running this for GTD, SRO already has a fully packed calendar for GT3, DTM moved to GT3, we've got 24H Series in GT3, ADAC has been on GT3 for years, and now finally we've got WEC going GT3. This will be an exciting year.
Yes👍👍👍
Looking forward to the racing. The more manufacturers the better
Fantastic FJ! I know I asked if you could do this a month or so ago. Great summary. I’ve seen GT3s race at Bathurst and GTEs race at Le Mans, googled the differences but was very confusing. Your summary explains it perfectly. And not having the Audis and Mercs competing is robbing us of an even better show so fingers crossed for 2025!
another factor is that scope for GTE programs was very limited outside WEC/Le Mans, whilst being very expensive and difficult to justify without massive corporate backing. GT3 as a class is already huge all over the world, with mostly standardised regulations meaning that customer teams from all kinds of regional GT3 events can, at least in theory, have a go at getting into Le Mans or taking part in WEC events without having to buy entire new cars and equipment. And if those savings and slightly slower cars means a full grid of GT's thundering through the porsche curbs come le mans and inevitably adding the spice of traffic to the LMH battle, I'm all for that
Nice video 👏🏻
Thank you!
This is amazing news, prototypes & the GTE cars are all purpose built race cars which have little to nothing in common with cars we can ever get near. To have actual cars back in the racing is exciting, more relatable & hopefully the tech will filter down to the production cars which let’s be honest is one of the major roles of racing.
now all that is left is to have more races per year. ik its hard for teams to manage cost but, there should a 'race more earn more spend more' mindset.
I am sceptical about that. Quality over quantity imo. WEC endurance races have something special due to it's challenges. Like climbing a mountain, it takes a lot of preparation and the reward is fulfilling. I think that more races could erode this principle, so should be considered very well. You can see it with F1. If you want to see more races you can always watch the IMSA races. Most of the time they have better races than WEC.
There is likely 1 more race that is do able with the current calendar, and that is likely either putting another European race in after Le Mans and pushing Brazil back a couple of weeks into August or having a race at Mexico between Brazil and COTA. The other thing that could be done is instead of the European race do an African race like at Kyalami.
For the European race it would likely be Silverstone or Nurburgring. Silverstone would be tricky as the first weekend of July is normally the F1 race there.
This thing sounds well. Memories from the Glickenhaus (similar)
I was bummed at first. But, to get closer to the street versions will attract more fans, I think. Race on Sunday. Sell on Monday. Might be coming back!! Once again. Great job with the explanation. BTW my full name initials are WEC.
Although I loved the GTLM class and the GTE class the biggest problem is more teams were dropping out than entering.
So the GT3 class makes more sense.
YES!
Nice vidéo
The GTE class, the RSR especially, will be missed.
Thanks for the great summary. Gonna be a huge success as GT3 everywhere. The more manufacturers the better. Hope Audi and Mercedes will soon join the club (only to get beaten of course 🤣).
Very nicely put together video mate 👍🏻 I would like to hear some more technical detail comparison between GTE and GT3 such as weight , bhp and potential relative lap times ?
Hopefully in the future there can more videos just like what you mentioned regarding GT racing! Thanks for watching the video as well, glad you enjoyed it!
Sad to see beauties like the RSR go, but the GT3 today hopefully are just as well regarded. :)
I hope so too!
@@FormulaJonah Cars like the 992 GT3, the Corvette GT3, and the Mustang GT3... they need more public exposure. I'm not sure how RSR got so popular, but they need to make their names too. :)
GT3 are only slower than GTE due to the BOP targeting a slower time. In Super GT the GT300 cars are quite a bit faster than GTE cars at Fuji, for example.
I'm happy about the switch to LMGT3 and the removable LMP2. I think it's going to be great. Plus the hypercars, I'm already looking forward to next season
These changes sound very exciting. I'd love to see that many different cars on the track. Lets hope Audi and Mercedes will be able to join sooner or later.
I worry that 2 main classes will take away from what I really like about multi class endurance racing.
Having 3+ classes of cars with varying performance can make for some really cool situations and moments
I hope Mercedes and Audi can get in earlier than 2025. I don't see much reason for them to not be there.
And when is Lexus going to make a new GT3? The RCF is good, but damn.
Overall, I think it's going to be very fun racing nonetheless. I'm disappointed only because I got into all of this too late for the GTE era, but LMH/LMDH looks hot asf so that's gonna be cool, too. I just hope it doesn't take away too much focus from LMGT3, because that C8.R is what I'm here for. I'm glad to hear that the future of GT racing is quite secure.
seems like a good class
Banger of a video
Thank you!
I see a lot of haters on GT3 but i love them. Le Mans felt limited last year because of the small number of manufacturers. This will be good.
The 2024 and 2025 seasons of WEC and IMSA feel like Christmas. Exciting time for endurance racing.
im so hype for the le mans 24h
These are really good changes. The increase of competitors is totally worth decreasing the performance of these cars.
Lmp2 is an antiquated class that should have been retired along with lmp1.
This change is amazing. This is gonna make WEC way better. It's a great move since the popularity of IMSA in North America on the rise it's only a matter of time for WEC to rise in the same market.
As far as I knew the GTE regulations are very similar to the old GT2 ones. And compared to the GT3 cars, the GT2 has modifications to the chassis, such as the rigidity, which is much greater in the GT2. Furthermore, the electronics of the GT3 are very conditioned by the street car. However, in GT2 it was pure competition electronics. In an interview with a GT OPEN driver when comparing a GT2 with a GT3 he said, the GT3 is a street car modified for racing, the GT2 is a racing car that looks like a street car.
I think that the initial phase of GTE was just like a rebadged GT2. I think the best example of that was the Ferrari 458, which was virtually identical in its GT2 and its initial GTE look.
That may have been the case several years back but electronics in gt3 and gte are pretty much identical and far from road cars.
I can't wait for wec 2024 lmgt3 should be good looking forward to wec more than f1
I'm super excited for next year. Two of my fellow countrymen, South African brothers Sheldon and Kelvin Van Der Linde will also be competing.
With the current interest from manufacturers and the fast rising number of cars, the WEC should consider running something like a B championship to fill all these gaps. The demand is getting way too high to have only one grid of 37 cars
The grid is expected to go up to 40 cars for 2025, but they won’t do a B championship. IMSA is running the same regs as WEC essentially and if spots fill up in WEC then other teams go there. IMSA’s GTP grid isn’t expected to jump up as much so the possibility of some teams going there if spots run out, along with ELMS and ALMS if the spots are available. A B series wouldn’t be very big as it would only have about 12-13 entrants and ELMS, ALMS, and IMSA still give the teams that don’t make WEC a chance to run.
Se acerca un buen campeonato 2024
I believe many years ago, Aston Martin said that GTE car are extremely expensive because of how strict the rules are so they spend lot of money on R&D to extract every ounces of performance from the car. What make them fast also because of the aero regulations that are slightly different than it’s GT3 counterparts.
I hope the pro class is also comming back
the acronyms are such a pain in the ass, waiting for the day they do something like F1, prototype one - P1, revision one - R1
Ill miss the RSR
As sportscar racing has seen so many times, a spending war culture will kill off any class. GTE has to be canned because of this
GT3 is a great alternate for the WEC with the 2024 entry list alone. Costs are slashed since GT teams don't have to build two separate cars for two separate regulations.
Endurance Racing is in a great position with cost-effective regulations used universally
My Favorite Class Was The GTLM
I strongly belive that FIAWEC in 2024 despite it only has 2 classes like in FANATEC GTWC Europe, its gonna be very competitive.
What about the gearing and Aero like the GTE for Leman? They will hit the limiter on the Mulsane.
Sad LMP2 is going away tho, those Gibson v8s sound amazing
Ma secondo me si sbaglia la GTE come la FORD PERFORMANCE GT aveva 495 cv la FORD PERFORMANCE MUSTANG GTD ha 680 cv,come fa ed essere più lenta?
Sad to see GTE go as I like it more than GT3, tbh but I think we've seen so many times over the years that rising costs kill competition. Writing has been on the wall for GTE for years now and it's nice that this means the return of pretty much every GTE manufacturer other than like... what the Viper?
seeing how well the hypercar era has started, i'm really confident that lmgt3 will make for some great races
Fully agree!
hyper car is almost spec class racing....two chassis manufacturers, spec hybrid gear...it's a tuning and paint series.
Is LMGT3 the same spec as the GT3 class in Europe?
What happens to the drivers in the AM class?
Hopefully in 2025 we see a LMGT3 Pro Class
I love the video but I‘m not entirely sure if another gt3 series will be good for endurance racing. I’m Germany we had the same problem, when suddenly the old dtm class 1 was replaced by gt3, even though we had already one championship in that category. At some point I was also hoping the GTE class would transform back to the famous gt1 class, but gt3 racing is still better than no racing.
great news
5:26 is that a tire next to the Corvette’s rear wing??
Is there a racing series that has gt cars and prototype cars that is similar to F1's sprint style racing with races having a certain number of laps instead of long 6 to 24h races?
IMSA has some sprint races with prototypes and GTs. There are also some "lower" class championships like the Michelin Le Mans Cup which has 2 hour races for LMP3 and GT3 cars.
Audi is very unlikely given they basically cut their sportcar program for F1 entry. Merc might be though, but for more chances, they might have to get more involved in a WEC team. They certainly have no interested in hypercar program so far
Should adds up Bugatti I know they are different but we should accept them
does a lmdh car have abs?
Always Love GT3 racing Since GT Sport despite being F1 fan
will be able to watch the WEC races online just as we do IMSA? for me that is the most important question
Yes! All WEC races are available on the app, and specific channels for certain countries, for example Motortrend in the US. I also do race reviews on each WEC event. At the start of next year, I will do a video about where to watch WEC and IMSA for 2024.
I'm probably going to just bite the bullet and subscribe to motor trend when the races start happening. So many of the races this year were spoiled from people blabbing about the winners in random comment sections "Way to go toyota again!!!" or "Wow ferrari won!!!! amazing!!!" while a bunch of us were waiting the extra week or 2 for the race to get uploaded to youtube. Especially lemans, I was trying so hard to avoid spoilers for that, but like every freaking article on the internet mentioning lemans had the winner in the title. Since it's going to be even more competitive next year I'd rather just avoid that whole situation and watch them live for like 5 bucks or whatever it cost.
I think this gives the manufacturers something to sell. WIn on Sunday so on Monday.
I think people in 2021 would be suprised to see how big this championship has changed haha
I witnessed the old GT1 days which were fantastic,Corvette Gt1,Porsche 911 Gt1....McLaren,,,It got too expensive so GT2 was introduced whch also got expensive...I always wanted to see GT3 adopted by LM and the WEC as it made sense as many manufactirers were involved...I think GT3 is a very decent concept,,,,but watch this space ,in a few years it too will become expensive and be toned down yet again......The Flintstones had a good concept too !!!
Not to mention that, despite having such a modifications compared to the road counterparts, a GT3 car cannot be externally modified during all its homologation lifetime. This means cars like 992 GT3-R and 296 GT3 will be seen for at least half a decade racing worldwide. I don’t see cars like these leaving Le Mans or other important endurance racing competition before 2029
Cars can be upgraded through evolutions and considering Porsches track record we will see a freshly homologated 992.2 GT3 R as early as 2025.
@@reneengelke3218even though they can have EVO versions, it’s still the same car anyway
Man.. I hope Nissan GT-R GT3 will be in LeMans race