How to fit Rails to a Skateboard without the Rattle

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024

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  • @OvaltineClassique
    @OvaltineClassique Před 2 lety +5

    I use the really sticky 3M automotive exterior double sided tape, it's kinda foamy and pliable so in addition to holding the rail on, it kinda acts as a bit of extra clamping force when the foam compresses and also absorbs any vibrations. Works great.

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah dude, I’ve used similar stuff and it’s ace!

  • @richyrichhopkins8214
    @richyrichhopkins8214 Před 3 lety +7

    I find a nice tip when fitting rails is to heat them up with a hot air gun and bend them around to follow the contour of the side of the board.
    It works really well on Shaped boards but not a lot of point on popsicles.

    • @PHeMoX
      @PHeMoX Před 3 lety +2

      There's no need on a shaped deck either though. The axis on which you do boardslides on is perpendicular to essentially the wheelbase. Having rails that curve around the contour and do not follow that straight perpendicular line, will more so throw you off than be a benefit. It terms of board concave throughout the width of the board, you're going to want to find the best spot for the rails for the board to not catch on to rails or ledge in slides on its 'board belly' area. Some rails are pretty soft and allow for boardslides to hit the middle of the board anyway, but position places a massive role too. Last but not least, what might appear most aesthetically pleasing might not always be most functional at all.

  • @robdapraia3486
    @robdapraia3486 Před 3 lety +2

    I drill holes through the rails and the deck and insert wooden pins through the deck and the rail, so the screws don't suffer from the impact and you get a very solid connection

  • @gavingoh4332
    @gavingoh4332 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the tips Jon

  • @ethandavis6521
    @ethandavis6521 Před 3 lety +2

    Great content as always!!👏🤙

  • @705skate
    @705skate Před 2 lety +2

    I just came across this issue recently when moving my rails around and tightening them down by hand. I find a power drill set to resistance 5 works best for me. It sinks it deep quickly and cleanly, I find if you do it by hand I found it harder to fully secure the screw into the deck, and as a result have a screw on each rail not fully secured and the rattle is such a bother. I will give this a try next time thanks, nice setup!!

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah man, another thing I’ve found is to do a test fit and then take them off and get rid of the deck that has been pulled up by the screw as this stops the rail seating right down. I’ve since switched to Santa Cruz rails and they have the backs cut out to accommodate this, so it’s just a case of screwing them on, Santa Cruz are the only ones I’ve found that do that ??

    • @705skate
      @705skate Před 2 lety

      @@JonBishopSkate I have the Santa Cruz ones too and noticed that, I got creature ones first and since they are both NHS they are made exactly the same. I was specifically wanting white rib bones for my ripper reissue deck but put on green ones instead while waiting since I couldn't find white ones at the time. I bought white Santa Cruz ones recently but apparently they have different screw placement so if I put the Santa Cruz ones on I wouldn't be able to put on rib bones later on. I wish all the drill holes for different rail brands would be equal but apparently they are not! And that is a good idea, I've noticed even the plastic can shave off and cause it to rise too, you almost need to hit it with course sandpaper and rub it smooth and floss out the excess wood and plastic from the holes and it would work perfectly.

  • @johnh7447
    @johnh7447 Před 3 lety +2

    As you scre the rails on it creates a raised burr on the deck surface. Only sure way to prevent chatter is to remove the rail, deburr the hole and your rail will sit flush with the deck. No rattles and no need to tighten the screws to the point of fainting.

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před 3 lety

      Yeah, I know what you mean. I find that drilling out the holes slightly allows for this so you get a snug fit without having to take the rail off again?

    • @johnh7447
      @johnh7447 Před 3 lety

      @@JonBishopSkate yeah, you can countersink the holes on the back to put them on once

  • @guybartlett9587
    @guybartlett9587 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks

  • @MieLyfeMieLyfe
    @MieLyfeMieLyfe Před 2 lety +1

    I got rails for that same board, had to watch

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před 2 lety

      Nice one, this is my updated video
      czcams.com/video/mG9KjoDTEH4/video.html

  • @stevencross8215
    @stevencross8215 Před 3 lety +2

    Used to ride rails back in the 80s . Now back in the game as a fellow middle aged skater I’m thinking about getting some more . Thanks for the great content delivered with a sense of humour as always. What size wheels you skate? I’m guessing 58/60?

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před 3 lety

      Hey dude,
      55mm on the mini ramp and street.
      60mm in t’ bowl !!

  • @reggieandrade4098
    @reggieandrade4098 Před 2 lety +1

    Really like your channel. Wondering what size Seismic tail and nose guards you used. Is it possible for you to measure them?? Wanting to order some for my 8.45 Anderson deck. Many thanks

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před 2 lety

      Hey Dude
      There was just the one option when I ordered? I trimmed mine down with an angle grinder, so I fear measuring won’t help sadly?

  • @ppjra
    @ppjra Před 3 lety +1

    I've put on two sets of rails in my life. Both had way too small holes for the screws that came with the rails. Is there a reason a for this or what's the point? Getting your drill out and drilling those holes bigger is definitely worth the effort!

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, it’s strange as it really messes up the fitting if the holes are too small!!

    • @ppjra
      @ppjra Před 3 lety +1

      @@JonBishopSkate Yep, trying to push that screw head in with just hand tools with the deck wobbling on the floor really makes one question the point of it all :)

  • @scottiewardle
    @scottiewardle Před rokem +1

    What are the tallest rails for a really concave wide deck? wanna save my graphic without them being too close to the center of the deck

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před rokem +1

      Hey dude,
      I think the Powell ones are the tallest I’ve tried. Pig are lower, Santa Cruz Slimline are somewhere in between??

    • @scottiewardle
      @scottiewardle Před rokem

      @@JonBishopSkate Thank Jon, After researching somewhat more, diamond rails are 14mm where most others are 10mm. Also liljawnsrails look better than most

  • @FranciscoGonzalez-ml2yi
    @FranciscoGonzalez-ml2yi Před 3 lety +1

    Can you demonstrate how 2 install the nose and tail bone?

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před 3 lety +1

      Hey Dude
      I used the same process as the rails. Double sided tape to locate and then just drill the holes for the screws ?!!

    • @FranciscoGonzalez-ml2yi
      @FranciscoGonzalez-ml2yi Před 3 lety

      I asked my local shop 2 install my rail guards... They tried and but the wood chipped and the rail wouldnt stick... I asked andy what 2 do and he said 2 hand screw it.. But now I'm not sure what to do about the nose bone and tail bone.. Especially cuz the flight deck wood is so hard.. Thanx man loove the content

    • @FranciscoGonzalez-ml2yi
      @FranciscoGonzalez-ml2yi Před 3 lety

      Thank you sooo much... I've just been askin as many people as possible because im worried about fuckin up my deck... Appreciate you brotha!!!

  • @apc1218
    @apc1218 Před 3 lety +1

    what brand and size trucks do you ride im a great fan of you

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před 3 lety

      Hey Dude
      Many thanks for tuning in!
      I ride independent 159 on the 9” deck and Independent 144 on the 8.45 deck.
      Cheers

    • @apc1218
      @apc1218 Před 3 lety

      @@JonBishopSkate yeah no problem I was struggling to find a person who loves pools because I love them to

    • @apc1218
      @apc1218 Před 3 lety

      @@JonBishopSkate cheers to you too

  • @manuelwgiddensjr6536
    @manuelwgiddensjr6536 Před 3 lety +1

    Use rat nutts.....problem solved

  • @billza6534
    @billza6534 Před 3 lety +2

    I might get rails but don’t see the point in them personally

    • @JonBishopSkate
      @JonBishopSkate  Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah it’s personal preference.
      Advantages are -
      - Less friction for board slides
      - More stability on concave boards for rocks and Boardslides
      - Something to grab for grabs
      - Saves the graphics
      Downsides
      - Adds weight
      - Some don’t like the look
      - costs money
      - it’s a pain if they rattle