The Evolution Of Blast Beats & Grindcore - The Jazz Years
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2021
- A look back in time where it all started.
I had to cut the video into two parts, so this is part one (jazz years).
This is the new and updated version of the The Evolution Of Blast Beats & Grindcore 08/2021.
I have no rights on the music of the artists, it is for informational purposes only. - Hudba
Things that were a thing in jazz before metal; blast beats, bell rides, 7 string guitars, downtuning and double bass drumming
yeah. and brazillians use 7 strings its a common thing there
So basicly metal.
Acoustic metal
@@onesyphorusactually russians too, in oldschool romances
oh yeah they used it a lot before that sergovia dude came along right? thats so cool, i've heard it was tuned like into a G chord or sumn? @@annone3428
"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it."
-Marty McFly, Godfather of Rock and Roll
This !!!
I’m not surprised of the Jazz roots. I once saw Whitney Houston’s drummer do a proper gravity blast at a Jazz bar in Seattle.
Louis Bellson was also the father of double bass in drums, drawing up the idea for a double bass drum kit while still a kid in 1939.
wanting to have the patterns he learned as a tapdancer to his drumkit
@@bartrosseau7481Man he basically started one of the greatest features of metal drumming.
For the 1950s and beyond, that was extreme for its time.
Sam Woodyard. The godfather of blast beats. Respect.
The guy is portraying Pete Sandoval in 1960
Mofo could play for nile
@@evansfanily7510more like Last days of Humanity
@@xmw-rat4558you're not even exaggerating with that one chief
@@evansfanily7510if you think Nile is all blast beats then you know nothing about drumming my little non musician. Seriously doubt Sam knew how to do Heel-Toe or Swivel Foot Techniques plus the amount of time it takes to learn how to use those techniques correctly then comes the stamina challenge and being able to reach those very fast double bass speeds. So no little buddy, Sam could not play for Nile.
Somebody was tearing it up long before heavy metal became a thing. Doesn't matter what style or instrument.
Jazz is metal as fck
it's amazing how some of these songs I had listened to through a more modern lens and never picked up on "oh hey, that's extremely modern and forward thinking of them."
Emerson Lake and Palmer even had the freaking bell of the ride. I cannot believe how spot on that is.
I own a signed set of Louie Bellson drum sticks. Those guys are the DNA of drums. Jazz drumming from the mid 20th century will always be the gold standard.
Oh, you earned my subscription by the research and editing you did. You're not just a hack rip off like 97% of YT.
Thanks for your kind words! 🙏
Same. It isn't often enough that I encounter others who understand that so much music that we think of as rock is really just jazz in different clothing, so to speak.
Ah yes protogrind
Listen to Coltrane's the father and the son and the holy ghost. The drumming is chaotic. Pure art
Black Sabbath … … my favorite jazz band !
Right about that, my fault..!
They knew how to play some jazz acctually, iommi and butler for sure
The thing about heavy bands in the early 70's is that they have influences from jazz, blues, psychedelia, rock, classical...
Bill Ward was heavily influenced by jazz
Sabbath absolutely swings
Popping in two years later to say that Tony Williams has several of the first recorded blastbeats that actually sound like blasts to contemporary metalheads. Check out the 1:40~ mark, and another build from the 3:00~ mark on “Vashkar” from Emergency! and I know there are examples of him doing this in some of the live releases with the Miles Davis quintet.
❤❤❤❤ One of my favorites
Here's another good one from the 1960s: 1:30 into Tom Jones & The Senators - What'd I Say (The Beat Room, 5th Oct 1964).
1:42 hammer smashed face
Thats is where metal music actually came from. Jass n classic n blues. Those are the roots of it all.
Agreed!!
When Carl Palmer did it, it had POWER!!!! 💪
Bill Ward is SO OG it’s ridiculous!!!! He sounds METAL ALL the time 💪
2:20 Ouch! Nick Mason... I am Pink Floyd fan and it's amazing to listen him in this way🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
The drum breaks in
"Wipe Out" were a must.
A lot of the drum solos were influenced by it. thanks
Dude, you made some NEAT RESEARCH
Carl Palmer is a monster
Don't know if it's true or not, but I read that he was the only rock drummer that Buddy Rich thought was good.
@@robgrano6814 truth Buddy's favorite rock drummer was Carl Palmer.. he also said after he was gone that Carl would be the best...
And, it's the only clip in this video where the blast was used musically and as an actual beat.
Tony Williams is a big
Omission from this
¡El blast beat siempre ha estado allí! Solo debían llegar oídos suficientemente podridos para apreciarlos
Jaja, hay blast en las sinfonías de Bach y Beethoven .
@@netzerx en cuales
Great vid dude!
What a video! Love me some blast beats.
Siempre encuentro algo nuevo del jazz que me impresiona, gracias.
The first guy HAS to be Dave Lombardo's dad. That double kick....
ELP.... Awesome!!!
Someone should make a brutal riff to these jazz drums
I feel like this guy likes the Doors considering the amount of time they were given
True! But seriously, I really didnt look at the clock while making the edit/cuts, so it’s more a coincidence.
Glad to see Sunny represented.
WOOOOWOWOOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW
Acid jazz with emphasis on acid.
Buddy Rich did a very clean/fast blast beat in "West Side Story" throughout the 1960s ... usually one of the first fills in the song.
We also have a blast beat in the final moments of "The End" also by The Doors
Thanks 🤘🏼
And yes.. Metal music has roots in jazz
The Doors definitely gives me chills, having watched Apocalypse Now
Morrison was an insufferable lunkhead goon, but Manzarek, Krieger, and Densmore were a band of unimpeachable skill and unquestionable talent. Peak musicianship.
Talk about a “blast” from the past!
F-ing awesome
You know... in hindsight I can definitely see blast beats being so common throughout music because it's such a great warm up routine. In some alternative universe playing octaves being synonymous with black metal 😂
Jazz players usually have crazy fast hands
Really interesting to hear blasts used in a song / musical way outside of a drum solo as early as 1970
The Doors - The End, in final section have a blastbeat!
Nobody ever talks about Charles Lee Benante of SOD for some reason. It's one thing to have a chaotic drum solo and another to fit it in to a musical context so it holds emotion.
czcams.com/video/7hfaB4tjmLc/video.html&ab_channel=HistoryofRockMusic-Mostpowerfulrocksongs
Here you go (at 11:30 in the 80s Video):
czcams.com/video/gc3ZxDNq744/video.html
Cheers mate!
No worries on my end Charlie will always be one of the best metal drummers ever.
Agree with this
waow !
After hearing the ELP track, I put on Yezda Urfa's Sacred Baboon album, which then reminded me of Righteous Pigs.
Louie Bellson already played with double bass drums. I'm shocked 😮
We will dominaaaaaate!
This man even did a whole dance move for you during
That one in Emerson lake and palmer is the more accurate form. Is already one hand on the ride and another one on the snare. Is the nearest on the list at traditional blastbeat.
Sunny Murray is clearly the first time where it was played in the form that it is the most familiar to us - alternating 16th notes between the kick, snare, and cymbal, rather than the tom surface, as heard in the recordings before. Also, don't know if you've covered these, but in the late 60s and early 70s, some early blast examples, in the context of rock music (then punk, metal, etc):
Cream - Sunshine of Your Love (@ 4:02)
Blast - Damned Flame (@ 1:46)
Blast rocks man, thanks a lot for the tip!
I think you should've included Tony Williams
Love's "7 and 7 Is" has some ferocious drumming from Alban "Snoopy" Pfisterer.
I was about to say Louie was playing a roll then just matching his feet with his hands. Usually in jazz a blast beat was more used in transitions technically a blast beat is a 8th note played at 120 bpms which the basic ride pattern of the jazz shuffle is 120 bpms
Crippled society: the womb of blast beats
Coletrane's Interstellar Space. Rasheed Ali on drums.
Sam Woodyard Is incredible drum man
Rip❤
Give this one a try, it's a great example from the 1960s: 1:30 into Tom Jones & The Senators - What'd I Say (The Beat Room, 5th Oct 1964).
Some jazz requires a metal mentality for sure.
Jazzcore 🤟😎
5:26 beautiful
Have you heard the proto metal etc pre Sabbath? Some scary stuff
This was so fuckin interesting
Look into ‘Flower Punk’ by Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention. First fully blast song?
That Emerson, Lake and Palmer song SLAPPED lol
ELP was fundamentally incapable of ever not GOING HARD AF 💯, dig in to their catalog (welcome to your new obsession, btw 😅) and you’ll see 🙌
You forgot Fireball, first proto speed metal song.
Carl Palmer... So fucking Great
Todo se trata de los queridos rudimentos 🎉🎉🎉
I need more videos with an investigative quality as found in this video, congratulations, your research is very deep 🤘🙌💪🪖👍
3:35 almost started to sound like wont get fooled again
Woodyard*
It's weird why modern drummers don't strive to this kind of perfection
blame pop music culture.
Underground.
I think the new Signs of the Swarm album Amongst the low and empty
Is a drummer's album.
What are you talking about? There's lots of drummers alive today that far better than any shown in this video.
@@mmestari well you have to have roots also. These drummers mentioned paved the way for drummers today and if it weren't for the pioneer drummers striving to be awesome and creative we wouldn't have all the Great drummers of today.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. You don’t get out much do you? The technical prowess of modern drumming is through the roof to say the least. I am 63 and been playing since the age of 9. In my prime I couldn’t touch the skill level of Nekrutmann and his modern colleagues.
first one sounds so much like meander by textures
(well, the other way around)
The Doors sounded like they were attempting minimalist music, rather than blast beats. 😂
Yeah, I heard no blasting
More of a traditional psych rock freakout jam imho, and may I add it’s a v good one at that. Some things just never go out of style 🤘
Nick Mason straight up single foot trad-blasting lmao
Most of the stuff are not actually blasts, but extended fills...
Jazz was just classical music players messing around
These guys are all good, and super fast, but they aren't playing blast beats. These played here are just fast drum solos. Generally, any beat has hands and feet repeatedly playing the same sequence of notes, as blast beats do, but fast during the course of a measure, a break, or even a whole song. Moving quickly around the toms and smashing cymbals randomly are only solos or breaks or fills. Bill Ward does give us good example of a good blast.
1:00 но вот эта техника игры, очень похожа на современную технику игры blast beats.А так вы правы,в этом видео нету blast beats.
"acshually 🤓"
ELP 4 LIFE
If [insert any musical innovation] exists, jazz did it first.
....Which Jazz artist did guttural vocals?
Where is Mr Baker?
01:35 John Zorn's Painkiller o.O
Yea kinda! 😅
Fuck Dude!! I was, oh, shit that's really fucking fast!!! Until I noticed that I had set the speed at 2x, LOL.
I would like to mention that the drummer of Pantera probably the first to blast beat as it would be played in it's genre
In which song?
@@bodomiller4275 I'm actually going to go back in time further. And have to say Charlie Benante had influenced the blast beats into the genre of metal, and not what punk music was doing
@@adamcruz3172Blast beat as we know it today has its roots in punk drumming. Even Benante stated he didn't invent it and gives the credit to the early 80's hardcore bands.
@@robertoricci3393 I think we're on the same page
george suranovich on august by love 1969 should have been on here
What is the Albert Ayler song featured here named?
I think it was a variation of the song „ghost“
@@bodomiller4275Thank you. I ended up finding the originally recording. Here it is, for everyone interested. czcams.com/video/nuCxMd8SfNE/video.html
What are the doors doing there ??? What about budy rich?? Thus is I complete .
Nick Mason does not get enough respect.
Here's Carl blasting at the Isle of Wight
czcams.com/users/clipUgkxJCBKTaMtiyEO4fOsC56tPndrtNLUwG2K
Who’s the drummer before Pink Floyd’s clip
Sunny Murray
Sam Woodward for Origin 2024
Is there a difference between a trash can ending and blast beats?
Yes but this video doesn't acknowledge that. Shredding on a guitar is not the same as making fast noises. Only a few of these would qualify as blast beat.
Professor explicando a prova
Eu com duas canetas que achei no chão:
Ringo Starr played blast beat for a few seconds in Helter Skelter at around 2:00 back in 1968.
1:31 what record is this please
czcams.com/video/qPslczm0V_Y/video.htmlsi=0xiSAdFSkH9KB8te
Must be a variation of the ghost recordings
How did you miss Ginger Baker?!?
I think you hear some proto-blast beats in « le ballet mécanique » a very percussive piece of music composed by George Antheil in 1924
czcams.com/video/zqvK-YaJBLw/video.html
(Listen around 3:15)
tom jones & the senators - what'd i say (1964)....chris slade plays blast beat)
1:29 death jazz