Neil Druckmann reveals if Ellie would have killed Lev- The Last of Us 2 Remaster Director Commentary
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I mean, doesn't really matter how mad or hurt Ellie are, she wouldn't kill a child.
That's my take on it
She already did.
@@TheNeverists666she didn’t know at that moment
Now you're just reaching, she didn't know Mel was pregnant you fucking idiot @@TheNeverists666
She killed thousands of ppl …. For what…. To decide to forgive the 1 woman person whose responsible for her despair lmao this sequel is the worst
Has absolutly nothing to do with my comment, fuck off@@kcoose5356
I'm glad Neil confirmed it was just a bluff. Ellie is carrying a tremendous amount of pain from everything that has happened in Part II, and it's clear that she's not built to really be a malicious scumbag.
@nathaann8790Violent guy who did it for survival was it messed up at times sure not gonna disagree with that Joel wasn’t a good guy but he wasn’t bad either he’s a human doing what’s best for survival and becomes untrustworthy to protect the ones he loves the most which is why he has survived for 20+ years not sure why you left that part out
@@jacobgonzalez2002Didn’t he abuse Tommy the first few years of the outbreak?
It unfortunately doesn't really work in a videogame where you playing as Ellie have already murdered an army's worth of people to get to this point where you finally spare ONE person out of hundreds.
Ellie killed all of abbys friends and one was pregnant. They're both well past scumbags 🤣
Why should the player care about ellie or even abbys " feelings" at this point? They've killed too many ppl, in some of the most worst ways possible, and are nonredeemable
I'm glad she wouldn't have killed Lev, according to Neil - I always interpreted it that way.
But obviously the act of threatening it and making Abby believe she was gonna do it is still abhorrent in itself of course.
abhorrent? C'mon. She's done way worse by this point than bluff about killing a child.
@@metalmarten3478 agreed, jumping off that fucking dinosaur was a complete mockery of museum property
Abby's still got her beat with saying 'good' after hearing Dina's pregnant lol
@@InsomniacShrub that was awesome and showed Ellie really got balls, I probably wouldn't jumped that (and Joel had a mini heart attack lol)
This scene, and the entirety of the fight, was perhaps the saddest I've ever felt playing a video game. As the player, I didn't want to keep fighting Abby.
I did
@@jacobgonzalez2002 cause u r dumb
so you must've been relieved she let her go. At least you understand the sadness of it all and aren't one of those fucks that say "BRBBRMFBBR SHE KILLED SO MANY AND DIDN;T KILL ABY F THAT GAME WORST GAME EVER HRHRHR"
@@metalmarten3478 what sadness?
@@andrerocha3998 that one there
I was always sure that this was a bluff. I can't imagine Ellie to murder a helpless child like that. A child that didn't do anything to her. No matter how hurt she is, there are still lines she wouldn't cross.
As for this situation, if Abby would still refuse to fight Ellie, she would instead just go for her directly. She would attack her and either she defends herself or not.
I think Neil making the correlation between the dude that leaked gameplay footage and Abby in this final showdown is perfect and makes me a bit more open to the idea that he was going for; Neil could have ruined dudes life, lost himself in the madness of it but instead he liberated himself from all of it…like Ellie chose to do so in the end.
All of the arguments this game causes shows what makes it great it’s so interesting people’s takes on it 😂
Not really just because it’s argumentative doesn’t make it a great game
@@jacobgonzalez2002 I know it’s so bad and they did such a bad job and made such a bad game because it’s not exactly what you expected but you still come to comment on the game that’s how I know deep down you really like it
Funny I think Kojima is a joke but you don't see me going under Death Stranding game videos because it's not worth my time. But here you are.
Nah thats not always the case. Sometimes the game is just bad so its just fanboys and normal people
@@tanky3101thats some weird rapist way of thinking
Love Laura and Ashley so much
I feel like Ellie killing Abby with how things went is just incredibly inconsistent, that and people wanting Abby dead after all Ellie’s went through doesn’t understand the story. This isn’t about revenge, it may have started that way, but even Ellie said at one point “She gets to live” and she stuck by it, even in the end, and sort of starting a theme of closure when Ellie realizes killing Abby isn’t what she wanted. However, if the story’s only theme was revenge, and if Ellie’s darkness was explored further after Joel’s death, then yeah, her killing Abby would totally fit, as long as that story is centered around that idea without faltering into any other theme in any sort of way.
Yeah I feel she realised she doesn't want Abby dead, she just wants Joel back. Killing her won't give him back. oon As soon as she let go of this obsession with revenge she could start properly grieving.
I'm not sure how to understand her whole relationship with Dina and it's ending. I had this gut feeling that Ellie wasn't "all there" with Dina, maybe settling with her and living peacefully wasn't the life that was meant for her and she felt it deep down. I don't know, I feel like Ellie might've been through too much, killed too many people to just settle down and forget it all. Maybe her fate is to keep fighting, not live peacefully.
People understand that and that is what they hate
I relate to Ellie a lot. My grandpa shot himself in the head. The carnage looked very similar to Joel in this scene, only I didn't have anyone to focus my anger on so I focused it on myself instead.
I'd imagine your grandpa probably wanted for you what Joel wanted for Ellie. You can't let that trauma dictate the future. Blaming yourself for his death is only strengthening those same feelings he most likely felt. He would want you to overcome the negativity your feeling and use it to spread love and joy to the world. Your grandpa didn't end his own life. It was a tie between him and his suffering. His memory should serve as a reminder to always strive to overcome the pain, the same pain that he felt, should end with you.
1:31 I’m so mad there’s no wig to snatch 💀🙏🏻
Nah man I was pissed that Ellie left Dina and threatened Lev. It’s sad to think we might not see them in Part III
Hmmm I’m pretty sure we will see them again. So many possibilities.
Abby and Lev are possibly returning in part 3
Lev is likely the main protagonist too
Where can I watch this whole thing
Do you own TLOU II remaster? You can play the whole game with this commentary on
@@StevenCBlah no just the original
@@brentforrest123Remastered is a 10$ upgrade if you own the original
Man Im starting to realize more and more that a lot of the "off" things in this game were because of Halley. I just dont think she "gets" the characters like Neil and the VAs do.
Yea. She didn't work on the first game, and it's pretty obvious to everyone that Ellie wouldn't have actually killed Lev. From her facial expressions, to the context... It seems that Halley wants these characters to do things because it'd be good for her story, her idea of the story, not for what the characters actually are. Not for what the characters have been doing the entire story.
@@Zack-bl2gg Yup cause you can see how the idea pops in her head. It's like spontaneous, not pondered on. Which is not how you can write already established characters.
I watched other videos about it and she alway came up with the worst ideas
@@gaia7240 thats why the game is garbage
She might not have killed Lev, but she definitely would've started hurting him. Anything to get Abby to fight.
I honestly think she might have done it had abby said no with the state she was in or at least heavily considered it before walking away.
No she wouldn’t it’s like yall forgot everything about Ellie’s character in part 1
@@sllumpy3293 This is not the same Ellie as in part 1 though Ellie had never killed anyone in part 1 up until she saved Joel's life. Whereas Ellie in part 2 kills hundreds of people just to try and get to Abby. Gets to the hospital and brutally tortures and kills Nora, then kills both Owen and Mel, which can be seen as self-defence. Goes home after realizing Mel is pregnant, then after hearing of the potential whereabouts of Abby after Abby lets her live, decides to go after her again, killing another good amount of people on the way. Not to mention she travels insanely far (16hr drive likely without a car for most of it at least) for this. After all that, you think she wouldn't at least heavily consider it? The only reason she lets Abby live is because she realizes it's pointless after seeing Joel when she's probably seconds away.
Like this isn't the Ellie who is trying to help people and still sees the light in the world. She's fueled entirely by hatred and revenge in part 2. This isn't the same girl who sees the "injured" hunter and wants Joel to pull over and help him.
(Not to mention she leaves Dina and JJ to travel that 16 hr drive just for revenge)
It should have ended at the farm with her and JJ. Her thinking she can’t do it then bring in the flashback with Joel. Then she realize she can keep moving forward
That would mean there's no catharsis for her. No solution for her PTSD and her suicidal tendencies. I feel like she would have died, most likely, if she had stayed at the farm.
To be honest, that part felt like the end of the game, and I was praying to the screen, that it wasn't. Because there was so much, that was unresolved, it would have been the worst time for the credits.
Yeah you're right it should've ended where she was barely eating and sleeping, having panic attacks from a shovel falling over and putting dina and jj at risk from her severe PTSD while feeling suicidal, sounds like a great place to stop right?
I like abby, honest first playthrough i was tossing her off every high ledge after giving her a taste of vertigo, so satisfying to reload the encounter and find new ways to torture her
Its not perfect, mostly the ending not the fact Elle spared abby, it is flawed and open to criticism, this wasnt the sopranos even though we are still discussing it years later, it was polarizing and offensive, but it fits with the narrative, first game was about losing everything, being lost and then finding the light, finding something or someone to live for
The second game is about revenge and ultimately forgiveness, abby is the main character in part 2 and it fucks people up to realize that
The third game will play on those same tropes sadly but in the end elles story and the third game will ultimately be about redemption and acceptance, maybe the resurgent fireflies attack jackson and kidnap elle, idk or another scenario brings them together, que multiple characters that you play as, dina , hopefully tommy, maybe a new survivor
Irregardless elle will eventually accept the surgery willingly at the end of the trilogy, sacrifice and redemption will be the end of tlou
The only ending i feel fits after part 2 is that Elle willing
The surgery isn't possible because Jerry Anderson was the only doctor left who understood the procedure. This is literally spelled out by Mel when Ellie finds the recording in St Mary's hospital.
Let's say another surgeon with Jerry's knowledge appears, for Ellie to end up getting the surgery after all of the death and destruction its caused would cheapen the entire franchise. It would make Part 1 a pointless waste of time, an absolute mockery out of Joel's death and the rest of Part 2 just a farcical revenge. The worst thing they could possibly do is write an ending to the whole thing with Ellie doing the surgery.
Good for you if you like Abby I personally don’t still I grow more to not like her when I have to keep playing as her even if I understand where she is coming from
@@jacobgonzalez2002 not trying to be an asshole lol, why though?...it took me almost three playthroughs to reach this thought, but I respect that people don't...for you what makes you feel this way?
@@kittycatcat6962 3 playthroughs?!?!? Were you forced to like Abby or something? I mean I’ve played the game twice already and haven’t touched it since December of 2020 the first time I played it I sped through Abby’s part and didn’t care much about her story due to what she had done to Joel months go by I replay it a 2nd time because my friend told me to give it another chance so I bite and said ok 2nd time comes and I don’t speed run through Abby’s section but I become more open minded and understand her pov why she killed Joel but I still just didn’t care due to what she did to Joel like torturing him in front of Ellie and what her dad was going to do to Ellie not giving her consent or giving a second opinion and making sure it’s what she wanted still not to mention firefly’s took away his weapons, knocked him out when he was trying to revive Ellie, not letting him see Ellie I could also argue Joel was acting in self defense but anyways that’s my take on the whole why I still don’t like Abby’s character oh yeah and I didn’t even finish the story the 2nd time due to well I just couldn’t stand Abby’s part anymore and already made my opinion made I don’t need to replay the game 4, 5, or 6, times to get the point and to this day my opinion hasn’t changed and never will on Abby.
@@jacobgonzalez2002 I've played the game maybe 15 to 20 complete playthroughs, from easiest modes to survival to one life, besides gta5 its probably my favorite game lol
It would have actually been more traumatic if she killed abby. And then REGRETTED it. Instead of just wasting the entire journey
Literally if she killed abby and then the flashback happened of her talking to joel happened it would of felt even sadder. Because you assume that he died within them having a chance to speak. That her forgiving him was stripped away from her. And when you realize it wasnt and that she went on this revenge tour because of her anger at the world/herself/Joel and not just Abby it would be been a much better ending.
I think she would have, in that moment. She would have felt awful later, but in the heat of the moment, she knew what she wanted, and was willing to cause Abby that pain.
Is there posturing happening for perception, claiming that Ellie wouldn't have?
Nah. We've already been shown that Ellie can't follow through with her "Joelisms" and I dont think she would have been able to here.
Well, one writer says she would have, the other says she wouldn't have.
I guess we'll never know lol
Bro did you forget everything about Ellie’s character in part 1 yeah she hardened up but she’s not gonna murder an innocent child (that she knows of)
I honestly can’t wait for a third part to this series and I hope they don’t pander to all the crybabies who can’t get over the fact that Joel died the way that he did. I have no idea where they’re gonna go with this story and I absolutely love that.
I refer to this scene as the moment Ellie was irreversibly ruined for me. Ellie did horrible things throughout, she did. She even killed a baby by accident. But threatening Lev, one of the few enjoyable new chapters in the game, a child?? Threatening to kill a child so she could get her way, destroyed Ellie. I don’t care if she’s bluffing. The other stuff destroyed my good wil for the character, but this moment destroyed her.
Then I think you should re-evaluate how you define people and who they are, simply based on actions. (especially ones not acted on)
@nathaann8790 The game is well made, well acted and well written. The gameplay is fun. Just because I lost my enjoyment of the character of Ellie doesn’t mean she’s a bad character or poorly written. She’s very well written, but putting a knife to a child’s neck is something a can’t forgive. Even if she didn’t mean it she threatened a child and only to get her way.
Ellie is still a good character and well written and well acted even if my feelings about her soured.
@@XHammer-fs5pf Ok that's valid, apology for the condescending comment.
Lev crippled Tommy she’d definitely push that knife in his throat.
It was Abby who crippled Tommy by shothing him in the head
@@joseeguren4645I thought it was leg when she shot his leg
@@joseeguren4645 Nah Im pretty sure he has the limp from Lev. Tommy was once an adventurer like you until he took an arrow to the knee.
@@EditsbyRadI assumed it was some sort of neurological damage from having a bullet go through some part of the brain.
@@Vin_Venture896 maybe but I highly doubt that I think the arrow lev put at his leg it Shattered his knee
I wonder if the dev just wanted to extend the game time or not. Because Ellie did choose to leave with that girl i forgot the name of instead of taking revenge. Like she decided revenge was not worth it. So what was the point going back and doing it all over again?
No, she never did. Never had a chance to. Abby beat her ass and left her for dead. Ellie really didnt have a choice in the matter.
@@lockekappa500 but she initially decided not to pursue her further and let it go.
Because they wanted to torture you with that last fight secene
I'm replaying right now, and it's just a cycle like that. Jackson team initially decides to let Abby live after Ellie kills Owen and Mel.
Then Abby shows up to avenge Owen and Mel, kills Jesse, fucks up Tommy and beats the shit out of Ellie and Dina.
Then Ellie goes avenger again, I believe only because Tommy pushes her to do so (she seems fine with letting it go).
I see the theme as the question, how far can you go for revenge? How much is enough and is it ever enough? Does it ever end? Because Ellie would've had to either kill Abby AND the kid (which I don't believe she would've) or it wouldn't end there - Lev would've probably come after Ellie, possibly causing more death and it would've kept going.
Predictions for Part 3:
It will be a 3 or 5 year time skip
Lev is the main protagonist
The story plot is about rescuing and searching for a runaway friend (who is the Leader’s Step child)
Abby and Lev are still close.
Lev will meet Ellie again
The game will introduce a third protagonist who has a very strong connection with the runaway person.
I bet Ellie was bluffing at the start, but if she really wanted to she woulda killed lev. She went on this path and killed hundreds to get here, if she was pushed, one more wouldn’t have mattered
It would be cooler if he revealed he was leaving naughty dog and would never make video games again
I don’t think Ellie would kill a child. She wouldn’t do that. She was just trying to make Abby fight her
I don’t believe for a second that Abby wanted to fight Ellie until Ellie threatened to stab Lev.
yeah but at this point, fuck her. She only doesn't wanna fight her because she was hanging on that pole for who knows how long, and it's against the her character that she displayed all the way throughout the game.
Lol, a character that has done what Ellie has done leading up to this would most certainly kill Lev. What is her body count? Dozens if not hundreds. Joel trained her and she has followed in his footsteps. Folks, even the director, seem to forget that Joel himself admits he isn't a good dude and has killed innocent people. If any one of us had met Joel in that world, 95% of us would be dead, innocent or not. We may have even been set up by him. And Ellie has unfortunately emulated Joel's behavior in becoming a vengeful monster. That is what's called a pattern of behavior, so one kid would be nothing to her at this point especially if she was as mad as she is portrayed to be. It was shameful playing her. I feel they should hire someone with an understanding of human psychology to help them understand basic behavior. Great gameplay though, haha.
I kinda wish Abby’s backstory was instead tied to something fucked up Tommy and Joel did in their past rather than the doctor at the end of part 1. It felt like they really tried to brush over the fact that the doctor was doing something fucked up, even if it was for a good cause. Would be easier to be on Abby’s side and would make Joel’s demise more tragic if she was a victim of Joel’s old vicious survivalist mentality back when he was a man who was dead inside.
I don't know why people still wanted Abby to die, the point was Abby did a terrible violent thing for revenge by killing Joel ruining Ellie, Ellie then spends the game doing terrible violent shit to get revenge on Abby. If she'd have killed Abby she'd be doing to Lev exactly what Abby did to her. Not killing Abby was one of the few good decisions Ellie makes in this story, deciding mercy over revenge (which we've seen only makes things worse considering all of Abby's friends are dead and Ellie's two surviving allies kinda hate her by the end)
They both caused each other an equal amount of torment. The idea that they're two sides of the same coin is very pronounced. Two women who both lost their father figures, and try to fill the void and achieve closure by taking the life of the perpetrator. Yet it doesn't change the fact that Joel/Jerry are gone, and regardless of how many people you kill out of revenge it will never allow you to move forward.
Ellie had enough killing Nora and Mel. If she did that, it would be a very fucked up script choice.
whoever said ellie would have killed lev has no clue who these characters and shouldnt be allowed to write for them.
This game would have been SO MUCH BETTER without Halley. But they *had* to bring in a Hollywood writer who didnt understand the characters. And it's a real damn shame.
@@lockekappa500 I liked her writing for Owen and Abby/Dina and Ellie’s relationship, but yeah I don’t like how she made the decision to sideline Dina like that. They bring the pregnancy idea in and then when Dina should be gaining more screen-time with Ellie, we have Jesse brought in instead which doesn’t really get enough development in this game to make an impact. I like melodrama which makes think that they failed when they said they didn’t want it to be too ‘soapy’ cause it kind of was actually.
@@skywalkerorder2839 Yeah, "we want Ellie to feel isolated and alone so we sidelined Dina." Then why did you bring in Jessie for us to basically play with for a third of the entire Ellie side of the game? Makes no sense. And yeah I did like Abby/Owen and Dina/Ellie, I actually liked the former the most. I think Abby and Owen's relationship is one of my favorite things in the game.
@@lockekappa500 I hate to say it, but Jesse is a plot device character in its purest form. It’s why I have big issues with Ellie Day 3, Jesse’s only purpose is to just reject Ellie showing her being consumed by the obsession and her being naive/blind to the fact that what they’re doing at the moment could very well happen to Jackson or vice versa. He’s there for the plot to move along, we only get bits and pieces of character from him. A stepping stone for Ellie’s (and even Abby’s for that matter) story if you will. It’s my fundamental belief that Part I/Left Behind’s side-characters were better in comparison.
3 years ago I hated Abby so much I finished the game once and never touched it again and even tried to get a refund. But now I finished the game over 13 times, not because the story is so good, I grew to love the game mechanics. I hate to say it for real but the game story was kind of lazy to me but it’s still good, I kind of like Abby a little bit now but what she did was unforgivable🏌️♀️ and unforgettable⛳️ for real 😂
I loved the first game and I thought the second game was really good as well but finishing the game over 13 times...jesus
@@Fizzure3000 Yea I love it so much actually, after 3 years I forgot about so many levels that was so interesting and well made. My favorite was when Ellie finally got to meet the “Seraphites”, the echo of the whistles and the arrow hitting Ellie out of no where was extremely creepy and *chef kiss*
@@Fizzure3000 Sorry for making another response it’s probably annoying 😂, but 14 times now 😭, 3 years isn’t a long time to some but I learned a lot during that time and my mind kind of opened to a lot things that wasn’t so interesting to me at that time. I’m 21 now and the game kind of make sense in a way but the writing was you know… kind of off and lazy, survival is survival, Joel was that G, he had that dawg in him but because of that he wasn’t a good person, the cure might have been made but (I might be wrong or the source might be not credible maybe in your eyes) “MatPat” (He left the Channel not long ago 🥲) from “Game Theory” confirm that the cure wouldn’t have done anything, he went golfing too early in my opinion but the game is realistic and borderline feral 😂, enough jokes I’ll end it “A hero would sacrifice you for the world, A villain would sacrifice the world for you”…RIP Joe Forever Will I drink that Miller🍺🍻😂🥲
It's a video game
Why wasn't what Joel did unforgivable? Just because you like him?
None of that was a problem for me, however, killing the dogs.....
Amazing game. Terrible ending. Developers should have given gamers the option to spare Abby or Kill her but to be forced to spare her is a crock of shit. Lol
TLOU 2’s story was ridden with HORRIBLE pacing and structure with some of the worst writing decisions I’ve ever seen in my life. It baffles me how some people defend it by basically saying “oh u just don’t understand it.” I love the game but I won’t be the first to admit that the writing is total dog shite
You just didn't understand it.
@@lockekappa500 lmfao 😂
It’s too late to clean up Ellie, Niel.
Boo hoo go bitch more if you don’t like it go somewhere else…. You whine like a child
She was never meant to be completely clean.
It wasn’t for Joel despite being a hunter, it isn’t for Ellie
Why would we want a “clean” goodie two shoes Ellie. We want her to be a savage just like Joel
Too bad they didn't hire you to write the story.
This game is a spit in the face for any fan. The dislike ratio does not lie
I’ll say this, I am so sad how bad the story of this game was because it was clearly done with attention and passion
the story isn't bad
Its horrible
explain cohesively how the story is "bad" without mentioning your feelings or emotions about the characters.
Next time, they'll hire you to write the story. I promise.
@@cryinmonkey2003Well, they didn't let the Abby character breathe and went with the Joel kill in the 1st 30 mins for shock value. If they instead let both Ellie and Abby continue their story back and forth like they did later on without the players knowing what happened to Joel would have been much better. We might think Joel is captured so Ellie is going to get him back while we see Abby's back story. This way we will have a conflicting feeling for Joel's death. Instead we see him die so early that we don't care what her back story is, we just want that bitch dead.
While I'm add it, the 1st game had had a serious story but had fun moment with over all giving the players a happy feeling. But this one just wanted to make people hurt. Even the fun flashbacks are there to emphasis on how messed up things have become. I'm not saying that makes the story bad but it does make it less enjoyable.
she travelled all the way to kill abby. killing many people who has nothing to so with her revenge. only to spare abby in the end. i don't care what people think. this is bullshit.
No offense but you’re not taking in the broader picture. She sees Joel’s fuckup that moment in this scene. Adding to her complicated feelings. She’s been through so much. As a little girl in that cabin? Joel still came back no matter what to get her. Ellie was robbed of her chance to do what she could for him. And she swore to do what Joel would probably do. Kill every single son of a bitch it took to get revenge. You’re confusing your love and loss of Joel to lash out at the game. Just like she killed all those people. The only difference between you and some fans is she survived. You didn’t. You’re still in denial. So you throw your drinks at naughty dog’s face impatiently awaiting the next one. And when it drops you’ll jizz your pants even if you say you hate it. You’ll still look and naughty dog will probably blow your mind. I’m tired of people who are so desensitized by the internet they believe what 200 people write so those 200 people become 200 thousand overnight. The game isn’t bad. It’s actually great. The pacing could be better. But Joel needed to die. If you want a mature story in gaming here it is.
THANK YOUUUU!!!! Ive been saying that, everyone just says. Ur just mad joel died lmao
Bro , im beyond that already… like he died the first 20 min , theres still 17 hours of story in the game that pisses me the fk off
I get you seeing it that way, but at this point in Ellie's journey, it was clear she travelled all that way not to kill Abby, but to get some peace of mind. I mean she was having severe trauma. She thought killing Abby would give her that peace of mind, similar to how Abby thought killing Joel would give her peace. The difference is Ellie realized before killing Abby that it wouldn't have made her feel better. However, going out there and making that choice for herself did give Ellie the closure she needed.
Bro missed the whole thematic purpose of the game
She killed them because they were trying to kill her…..Abby spared her (twice actually). This comparison does not make sense
It’s not about getting the image out of my head it’s about getting vengeance for the loved one you took from me.
Congrats you missed the entire point of the story then
The point is that by this point it’s less about any sort of revenge and more about the trauma and guilt that she feels regarding Joel.
Are you twelve?
Well the loved one wouldnt want her to ruin her life for revenge you clown, that was her mental struggle to deal with, it literally was the image in the head.
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She realised Abby wasn’t a bad person and killing her wouldn’t bring back Joel and would have turned her into a monster. She would have been responsible for what happened to Lev. She had to let go. The ending was perfect. Cinematic to the core and heart wrenching. I can remember thinking please don’t kill her as I was playing.
Not at all, she was just faced with a pathetic loser who didn't even fight back so it wouldn't have be satisfying killing her so she just got sad and that makes your muscles weak so she gave up
revenge bad wow so deep...
What sub-50 Iq does to a mf.
Read a book,Pinois…
It's not just that lmao
Average internet user unable to understand a narrative besides “good guy win bad guy lose”
This was the worst sequel ever