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I know that Return of the Dragon Lords came out in the newer Felgrand deck, I don't know why I said Blue-Eyes. I guess I just associate that Structure with the rise of Blue-Eyes because of how important that card was to the strategy. My b
Understandable
Idk. People have tested what these cards could do in link format. I don't think it's any worse than the meta we have now. Besides... things like dark synchros, brilliant plant link SPAM, have done worse "degenerative plays" than this deck could ever do in link format. It just doesn't make sense to have a deck like this not go when we have handtraps, solems, untargetable effects to deal with it now. I say let them all come back at three to test the waters. Along with construct and inzectors. They just wont do ANYTHING
dzeeff Can you do a yugioh explained on Crystrons? I feel that too many people sleep on the deck . However, not only did it get the new link, the deck isn't really affected by links and has a lot of disruption.
WHY DON'T YOU STAY BANNED INSTEAD?
dzeeff you should make a video on Alien/Cthulhu deck.
Why dragons ruler should be unban
1. Cool arts
2. That's it
Haha you made my day
Seriously they do have awesome art
0uryuken true
lmao “spellbook of judgment” was complete tyranny
I never got to play with them. I just want a chance!
Dragon rulers would have been T-0 if it wasn't for Spellbook of judgment being a thing at the same time they came out.
TheDuelLogs im sure it was intended.
id say they are both t-0 even with them both out
We need judgment back!!!
Well you might see the occasional evilswarm player get lucky and them not having the fire one in hand to pop ophion.
Metaknight145 that doesnt stop a deck from being tier 0
nah put all Dragon Rulers to three. also monkeyboard, damage juggler, and plush fire to three. they can also return yata-garasu and graceful charity; wind-up hunter and shark, evigishki gustkraken, cold wave and snatch steal, etc.
let the world burn.
Get rid of the banlist and make other decks more powerful that seems fair
yea and than just completely forget about all those cards and play turbo exodia and draw into prohibition and dfiss!
Declin Suridge if they get rod of the banlist there will be no variety bc exodia is the best and most consistent deck of all time
I think it had something to do with handloops. I think Gustkraken got limited before it even came out in the TCG, correct me if Im wrong.
yeah that's correct. Evigishki Gustkraken was limited before it was even ported to the TCG that's why only a few remembers it. but in case you didn't know, its loop is to return all the opponents hand cards to their deck first turn. mind augus also reset the graveyard by spamming it multiple times in a turn. and the combo is very consistent because Preparation of Rites is at three and Gishki have two to three searchers on its archetype.
You aren't wrong but man did I like playing against them. They were so unfair it went full circle back to being fun. Duels against Dragon Ruler felt like I was fighting an RPG final boss that keeps changing forms.
Rain Forest Whitaker I remember one of the most tense games I ever had, playing against Dragon Rulers in their prime with my Worm deck. It was neck and neck the whole time, and had I not made the wrong move and let them open up I might've won. One of my favorite battles just because I was keeping toe-to-toe against a T-1/0 deck with worms.
Dragon Ruler was probably the fairest T0 Deck of all time. They didnt Stop you from playing or ftk you, like typical T0. They we're just insane Powerfull. You had a small Chance of winning. And when you pull it off without Spellbook or The Anti high lv Deck you felled like you are Yugi himself. I did trolled tryhard/Scrubs Dragon Ruler Player in DN Back then with a Rank 5 Anti Ruler (without Vanity) Deck. Basically i just did make Volcasaurus into gaia for ca 5000 DMG. The Rest of the Duel i did 3000 DMG and survive xD Worked every time. But looking into they GY and hand and misplays i know a good Player would crushed me.
Expectation: Dragon Rulers coming back would just be another linkspam.dek, they have been powercreeped enough to be let free again
Reality: 1 Tempest was enough to generate 3 different ways to FTK you consistently in today's meta.
My most intense and fun match ever was against D Rulers.
There should be a boss mode with them and super powerfull cards
It’s hard to believe it’s been 5 years since dragon rulers came out it feels like yesterday.
Bro, I know, Im watching this video in 2019 and my mind is blown that it's been so long.
HoKogan you will never guess what its status is now
7 now
Damn time flies
Me, who hasn't touched the franchise since 2005: hm this Stardust Dragon thing looks pretty strong
I remember playing against Dragon Rulers. My opponent would start the turn with 5 cards in hand, and they would play a crapload of cards to search, then summon Dracossack. At the end of their turn, they have 6 cards in hand despite the fact they summoned a level 7 Xyz. It was just messed up how they got so many random pluses all the time so that they never ran out of material. I played a Zombie deck back then that could keep up with Dragon Rulers in terms of sheer tempo, but when I summoned my Xyz monsters it actually cost me cards, so I would inevitably lose after a few turns because the Dragon Ruler player still had 5 or 6 cards in hand while I was just top decking.
Nothings changed lmao
Man eater bug used to be an incredible card to deal with monsters. Now... monsters has like 3-4 effects. Thats why nostalgic favorites arent that much played anymore. Imagine dark magician has an effect like, discard 1 spellcaster on your hand to special summon this card. Once per turn, you can select 3 normal spell cards from your deck to your hand and let thr opponent pick one that would go to your hand. Put the rest into your graveyard. If this card on the field is sent to the graveyard, you can banish this and one spellcaster monster on your hand to special summon dark magician girl from your deck.
This is how ridiculous monster effects are right now.
git gud lol
That's not that ridiculous to be honest. Git gud
That was cool
ok boomer
Nothing says "true but I'm not capable of refuting this" like "jIt JuD".
This aged well
Facts
I don't think konami got the message.
ROTD-JP043 Konton Maryu Chaos Ruler (Chaos Ruler the Chaotic Demonic Dragon)
Level 8 DARK Dragon Synchro Effect Monster
ATK 3000
DEF 2500
Materials: 1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters
You can only use the (1) and (2) effects of this card’s name each once per turn.
(1) If this card is Synchro Summoned: You can excavate the top 5 cards of your Deck, and if you do, add excavated 1 LIGHT or DARK monster to your hand, also send the remaining cards to the GY.
(2) You can banish 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monster from your hand and/or GY; Special Summon this card from the GY, but it is banished if it leaves the field.
@@MrMcPoppetshow1 would it count as a dragon ruler?
@@shis1988 meh, we will see
Confirmed: dzeef is still just salty that he lost to Wind-Ups.
Dragon rulers should come back individually at 1 every distant banlist to pretty much test out their effectiveness
Idk man Tempest is 1 card FTK
Yeaaaa, but after seeing the lone Dragon Ruler being part of the infamous Gandora FTK in the OCG, doesn’t look like they should bring any more back- or at all period to the TCG
Infernities honestly scarred me the most, I never wanna see that deck ever again because I could go get a pizza eat the whole thing and my opponent's turn STILL wasn't over! Kinda like Spyral but for some reason ALL infernity players were good..
Wonthangsoop no all infernity players set monsters in The spell/trap zone XD
It was because as long as you had no cards in your hand and copied a good infernity deck the deck played itself noobs don't build up hands when they get a good field so it's perfect for them
They are really annoying
so....you hate D/D/D then
@@michaelfox5281 to say Infernity is for noobs... gotta have some balls to say that. It's no Nekroz or Six Sams. But Jesus... easy? A deck which requires you to have no cards? Just because people know how to deckbuild and use it and it's broken, it's easy. Bollocks, dude!
I still have my rulers tucked away all safely in a row... waiting for the day I can create Lightsworn Rulers once again...
The Eclipse Wyvern and Beelze plays were so much fun!
You're not the only one
@@joshuasinclair1154 *You're not...
@@HaHaHaHolowence I don't get it
@@joshuasinclair1154 That was a correction, not an incomplete statement.
Dragon Rulers are so good, they're like Dark Souls
I have no idea how to enforce this, but what if you were only allowed one Dragon Ruler? An F.A. deck could play Tempest and go against a Fire King deck with Blaster. I’d like that.
Jack Casey you see that’s what everyone thought was gonna happen after they went to 1, they just stayed being their own deck
My idea was to rotate them so that only one Dragon Ruler would be legal at a time. So first Mermail gets Tidal back for three months, then Tidal is rebanned and Harpies can use Tempest, and so on. So the Ruler deck will never be a thing, but they will come back every once in a while.
James Zetterman + But then they can’t fight each other. That’s no fun.
It'd just have to be a built in rule. "You can only have 1 Dragon Ruler in your main deck."
E E hell yeah there are so many decks I’d splash redox into
i remember those days of dragon rules. i stopped playing once pendulum, those days every deck could otk you like 80% of the time
Yu-GI-Oh has become pretty ridiculous in the last 2 or 3 years... PePe decks were such a fuck up on Konami's end. The newer deck completely bury anything else b4 them, like Nekroz, Shaddolls, PePe, and even Burning Abyss. The SPYRAL decks are even worse tbh.
Any deck can otk u now lop
IF you go secondth, most of the time its waiting for 30 mins or so in which you just leave
*is the guy in the corner who wants to watch konami just completly remove the banlist/limitedlist/semi-limitedlist completly for a format, just to see what would happen. *
bugboy1014 I'd love to see the chaos of that. And I do wonder what would top out of all of that.
An Exodia deck that could ftk with 100% consistency probably.
MAKYURA EXODIA FTK 100% DECK YES. then it's basically gambling who goes 1st lmao
if you banned the ftk builds, I would imagine nekroz/dragon ruler/pepe format(but Pepe got bashed by the new link mechanic)
Exodia would be scary but people are going to side Ash Blossoms and Droll&Lock to stop Exodia game 2 and 3 so other powerful decks are going to otk it a lot too.
bugboy1014 It would literally be all ftks.
I know why you are here
hahaha
Ironic
The Dragon Rulers coming back would take the game by STORM
Orcust
To join your crew?
BABY I NEED MY DRAGON RULERS BACK
I think a lot of people want these decks back because they used to get destroyed by those decks, so having access to them now for cheaper is a satisfying feeling.
You want to talk decks that should never come back, boy let me tell you about PePe.
I stopped paying attention to yugioh for about 6 years but I really need to know what deck PePe refers to
NightClubSamurai the deck Performapal Pendulums they were legit a tier 0
NightClubSamurai watch lithium2300 and look up pepe duels on cardguyz and patrick hobans pepe magician deck
heres some quick links
czcams.com/video/z8tyKZklAZI/video.html lithium pepe review with shock master
czcams.com/video/HRvqWf342mc/video.html 19k sub spec pepe vs rejuv rulers crossbanlist
czcams.com/video/iFvmnGQ9Z60/video.html 20k sub spec dracopals vs rejuv rulers crossbanlist
czcams.com/video/OCyXel8e-D0/video.html pepe vs zoo B05 crossbanlist
it was basically a mini deck called clownblade that spammed rank 4s, but than pendulum support came out and the performage engine became really good and there were cards that started the engine easily (brilliant fusion summon seraphinite, foolish, wavering eyes, etc.) and generic pendulum support like luster etc. and generic xyz support like norden and instant fusion.
the engine consisted of performages, performpals, magicians, and generic support.
it had about 4 variants, its first was clownblade which upgraded to pepe than got support and was at its ultimate fullpower just as breakers of shadow was released until the emergency banlist dropped hitting previous cards. the deck than became dracopals and revolved around performapals and dracos. than the deck was hit multiple times creating multiple variants like dark draco pals and oddeyes dracopals till cards were again fully hit. then magician support was made and now we have magician pendulum.
it was able to make the best possible boards the game has ever seen while gaining advantage and being the most consistent and most fastest deck the game has seen.
ocg still had shockmaster and had exclusive called azzathoth while this deck was out, you were able to use lvl 4s and get out ptolemaus and that got out pleiades or infinity or tellar diamond and in ocg azzathoth too or even durendal which you can combo with droll to make your opponent lose their hand.
because the deck was so amazing and everyone played it, there was a popular combo for the mirror match which was mained and you could make king of the feral imps searching xsaber palumoru and use that and an earth to get out naturia beast.
you could pendulum summon, get 2 normals, search special summons, pop and special cards while also adding, you could xyz, synchro and fusion, you could negate, you could take cards, you could bounce, you could have multiple lockdown cards, you had nontargetable removal, you could reduce dmg taken, you could take away your opponents hand, you could banish or shuffle, you could burn your opponent, you could search trap holes and counter traps, almost everything floated and you could otk easily etc. you could do everything.
NightClubSamurai lel zoodiac and dragon rulers and nekroz are shit compared to pepe especially drulers and zoodiacs nekroz has a chance of winning but the rest is shit
Let's not just talk out of our asses and remember that PePe would inherently suffer from Master Rule 4.
Can't wait for pt2 of the series "why Dzeeff must not stay demonetized"
Imagine the Galaxy Tomahawk plays ughhhhh
Alcatraz just the plays in general with link summoning(imagine using tomahawk and dracosack uggggghhhhh I think i just came)
Alcatraz forgetting about big eye?
And doubles red eyes flare metal plays
Shit, I'd play Link Spam with Light/Dark Dragon, the Rulers, Grinder Golem and gofu. Sounds dumb af
To clarify, Rulers into Tomohawk
COUNTERPOINTS:
1. OMEGA - the thing about Omega is that there is an easy way to counter it. Ghost reaper. Most decks are siding ghost reaper anyway, so its not like you would changing people's strategy very much.
2. NEW DRAGON SUPPORT - ok I gotta admit dragon rulers with return of the dragon lords would be broke as fuck. And we have 3 ravine. And 3 debris. And glow up bulb. This is actually a really good point. I can't argue with it.
3. BFTDD - Pot of acquisitiveness is better. You get to recycle the dragons and draw a card. And it's not like getting them back in the grave would be hard with a blue-eyes engine and dark matter dragon.
I love the dragon rulers. I hated when they were tier 0. But I loved playing with them in other dragon decks right until they got banned. Hieratic rulers was tons of fun. So was lightsworn rulers.
I wish there was a way they could come back. I really do. But they can't. They are just too God damned broken.
I liked Dragon Rulers when used as elemental support... And that was about it. Lmao!
Even though I "miss" Redox, Dragon Ruler of Boulders in my Plant Princess deck, it IS what it is. Things have changed so much over the years... And so has our expanded card pool.
"1"dragon ruler unbanned since video made.
Who ?
@@betosito124 ruler of the storms.
@@SkyllerSY yep 1 dragon came back instantly staple in every dragon varriant anyone suprised
@@dragullongblackfang8073 it's amazing how the card itself is an engine
how someone designed something like
that back then lol
@@SkyllerSY i find it funny how people think ruler got powercreppt in realyity they got broken crept i know weird wording they just got even more powerfull as time goes one remember ruler scale with dragon level 7 support and support of 4 of the 6 elements that is just unbelivable powerfull
I don't know if it is only nostalgia but Ruler format was my favorite format of all time. God I hated the Rulers bad the spellbooks, but I had so much fun playing the game in that format...
Me too. Most fun format ever
Yep
All I'm hearing is that I can abuse this against my buddys since we never cared about banlists and just play for fun. Thank you:-D
Lol if there isn't a judge, there isn't a ban list, that's my motto
All of the dragon rulers, except for maybe redox, can go to 1. Earth attribute has become to powerful over the last couple of formats. Just ban galaxy tomahawk, and dark matter dragon, and they'll be fine. Master rule 4 made tomahawk broke so its was going to happen eventually anyways. Blue eyes, and mythic rulers can come back into the spotlight, and I don't think they'll be as dominate as spyral, or as consistent as magicians. The cards mentioned in this video are already abused to hell in lightsworn, zombies, and infernoid, so it wont make much of a difference.
GeeksOasis and why should Blu eyes players get hit just cuz 1 deck wants to be unbanned
@@pedrocarneirobatista9242 DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH DARK MATTER!
Instead also bring REDMD to 3. Huehuehuehueh.
No thank you
Well ... Tomahawk is banned, so that makes a good case for them coming back so they aren't broken in half like they used to be, but I wouldn't mind seeing a full power Dragon Ruler deck against Altergeists
if there's one card I want back, it's Stratos. but ONLY at 1. JUST. ONE.
I think he's gotten old enough that his effect can't be made to be too degenerate. it's not like Metamorphosis or Change of Heart, which are just....eugh.
BlitzkriegOmega he's back
Here's your wish boy
He's out on parole.
Comments that aged well
he did lmao,when I saw the new banlist I was crying from happiness,altough I never used it.
2019 entered the chat. Guardragon and this other shit here. We don't need Dragon Rulers. But we got Tempest.
Unkraut 777 guard dragons will eventually take themselves out via the ban list. When elpy gets banned then you won’t have to worry about Drulers making GD op.
I agree with pretty much all your points here. But I will say that that was probably my favorite format. I'm a little biased because Spellbooks were my first competitive deck and I've been playing since Summoned Skull was meta. But also because to my knowledge this was the only time in Yugioh that there were two tier 0 decks. Which I know is awful if you're not playing either of those decks, but really cool if you're playing one against the other.
Exactly. Same here
Dragon Rulers looked SICK. But +7 during the End Phase was beyond nuts.
I'd like to see konami do something creative with rulers, like limiting one each banlist while re-banning the one that they limited the previous banlist or something like that; that may require them to limit/ban dark matter dragon though
Nah...just bring them back to 1, REDMD to 2 or 3, and then don't even think about touching Dark Matter. Ok, maybe he could go to one
I have dark matter and I would like to use him with my galaxy eyes,especially using it against theses new cards
Honestly the fact that Dragon Rulers were an extremely flexible deck is what made them fun to play. They had different strategies versus the mirror, versus Spellbooks, vs Evilswarm, vs various rogue decks etc. That can't be said for a lot of decks nowadays which seem to be focused on pushing to a game-winning monster or board (SPYRAL Sleeper, Timestar Magician, Droll and Reincarnation combo...).
I want them to come back simply because I feel they would be more fun...Except for maybe Tomohawk. That I can be concerned about.
Yes. There was more creativity in the game back in DR/Spell book/Evilsworn era unlike now where there is 1 game winning condition for each deck
Played during the Dragon Ruler era. I would like to see them all at least to one. I've always liked piloting dragon decks in general (blueyes/redeyes/oddeyes/chaosdragons) and dragon rulers were just always so fun to play with. That's what i liked about them, that they were fun.
Huh. Tempest would like to know your location
*1 year later*
Tempest: sorry wah dough can nah?
Why I want to see Dragon Rulers back at 1; to see what they can actually do in the current game, they are also fun to play in my personal opinion, we have seen plenty of cards and decks that surpass the Dragon Rulers in terms of power and we have decks that can compete with them and I don't expect them to be as dominating as they were during their time, also there are more viable counters to Dragon Rulers. I also want to add that I also want to see Shurit, Stratos, Construct and Towers off the banlist together with the Rulers.
Wow, time flies so fast. 2013-2014 ? I quit yugioh after that meta, shit was so crazy.
To be honest, I kinda miss the time with dragon rulers. My tempest is taking dust in my basement :(
It is at 1
I’m here 6 years from the future to let you know that,
Master Duel has them all at 3
TCG has 3/4 of them at 1
OCG has them back at 1 and 2
I very much agree with you on your points, I think people are looking back with too much fondness at those old formats and forgetting how much they bitched about those decks when they were relevant. I was playing most from 2009-2015 and I remember all those decks and how frustrating it was to try and play a control deck against dragon rulers. Though at the same time I never really had too many problems dealing with Inzektors or Wind ups. I think the only deck I truly miss was Chaos Dragons. That was one hell of a deck.
Seeijg those older videos about dragon rulers makes me realize that today's meta is just crazy fast and cursed
Fingers crossed this video doesn’t get demonetized
Croutonking65 what does Demonetize mean? Im assuming it means this video wont make the dzeff money. But please school me.
@@duMaurier15 dunno if you ever got an answer but demonetization means that this video is being tagged by someone who claims it uses their stuff without fair use, which isn't true but hey, who cares about fairness anymore, and because the video gets automatically flagged by Konami, they get to decide who gets any money from ads run on the video, or they can prevent any ads from running. Either way, the actual creator doesn't see a dime.
I think it would be really interesting to see how all the old meta decks would compete with the newer ones. And considering that a lot of old arche types are pretty much useless i think it's a huge waste. That doesn't mean that you have to allow all the old cards again. I'm sure there is a way to keep everything balanced
In 2020, I think they should unban Dragon Rulers and give them new support in the form of having 5 negates on the field every turn. Then maybe they might be relevant.
Perfectly balanced.
This video aged like fine wine, didn't it?
Needle fiber and guardragon does not mix well with the dragon rulers...
Tempest, Dragon Ruler of Storms: Hey Hey!
EDIT: Modernised it a bit.
I think one of the cards that everyone about with dragon rulers is eclipse wyvern. Lightsowrn rulers were a solid deck. And I think the dark matter OTK would be enabled in we had any D ruler back with eclipse wyvern.
I really liked Dragon Rulers in decks that aren't dragon Rulers.
I used to play 3 tidal in Frog monarchs back in the day to either summon a beater to punch face or send treeborn to grave.
It was a really nice card with a lot of elemental synergy.
If there was a complex ban on them allowing only one attribute of D-ruler to be in a deck at a time, they could likely be at 3 at it wouldn't be that big a deal.
You should have mentioned dragon rulers can easily summon galaxy tomahawk, nearly no minus. Ridicously tokens breeder in the link format.
Thành Nam also super easy to synchro out Red eyes flare metal dragon. Hope you like being locked out by burn!
Julias :| you complain about that when trickstars do that better and can leave you without a hand?
Julias synchro out flare metal?
dark assassin2086 lol
Bryan Nieves unless they going against dragon ruler then you basically giving them plusses
Tempest says "hi"
I love the hell out of your channel. You have common sense and talk about a card game that got me into nerdy stuff and made me most of the friends I have. I dont think I'll ever come back to yugioh, but I like to hear about it.
Oh, you just mentioned the Inzektor/Dino/Windup format and a ton of nostalgia hit me because of my old WindUp rogue deck. It was fun because I didn't use the Hunter strategy. I just liked to flood the field with 3 carriers :p
well my theory on why they want old meta decks off the ban list is because they want something to counteract the meta that they now hate. i'm actually questioning why is it that whenever there are cards that support certain attribute(specifically monsters) that there are none for dark's or light's like the dragon rulers.
Because Dark and Light already have the best support. Earth too. Poor Wind, Water, and Fire...basically Infernoid, Mermail, and Harpies are the only decks.
Well, that was a nice analyse.
Honestly, only reason they can't come back is because they re too fucking generic.
For example, think about redox in spyral
Dreary doll they can easily come back at one and they wouldn’t do shit besides top a few locals or make felgrand actually decent.
+Supreme Fool Too bad Galaxy Tomahawk is a card. Insane Link plays.
Well when we got the Dragonbane Archetype in particular Buster Blader The Dragon Destroyer Swordsman who negates all Dragon effects people thought the Rulers could come off since there was now a hard counter deck for it but with Link format that deck isn't viable at the moment so yeah let's keep them on the list for now.
Plus red eyes flare metal dragon gives them a monster that has nice protection.
Here’s the difference. When you’re dueling against Dragun of Red Eyes, if your deck doesn’t have a splashable non negatable out for a non target non destruction removal, you have to scoop. When you’re dueling dragon rulers you don’t have to scoop. You just duel and try to out play them with resources and strategy. Skill is gone from Yu-Gi-Oh.
*Tempest has entered the chat*
Yeah this aged as well as FF7's graphics
Most of the ppl, (like me) don't want those meta decks back to full power
but the idea of a zoodiac vs nekroz match or dragon rulers vs shaddolls really appeals to me :)
My favorite plays in the game i still remember was at a highly competitive locals(patrick hobans locals) playing evilswarms and i went to game 3 against a 100% dragon ruler deck by means photon papilloperative into a draccosack token. I still remember the look on his face and realization that he lost. 😂
Dragon rulers could easily come back; just limit their summoning conditions to their own attributes. No more banishing dragons; you can only special summon them by banishing 2 cards of their own attributes (fire for blaster, water for tidal, earth for boulder.). That way even if you try to build dragon rulers you have to have a bunch of random monsters.
That's pretty much what I've been saying. The Dragon Rulers were meant to be good support cards for Earth, Water, Fire, and Wind decks, so errata them by removing the "Dragon-type" part on all of them, babies and daddies, and you're good to go. No more broken plays.
Aquaria infernoids feeds off of the fire one they can easily abuse its effect- more or so in the hand discard it and any fire type just to pop any card on the field
Aquaria then they wouldn't be dragon rulers.......
That would ruined half of their purpose/thing honestly..
They are meant to work with not just elements but DRAGONS as well..
If they limited to 1, I wonder how much could be done..
Wished an actual graveyard dragon deck had a way to work
But that was just dumb.
This hasn’t aged well. *Looks at the current banlist
i was hoping for tidal to come to 1 this banlist but alas i just have to hold out hope for January ban-list
CosmicKitten10 It probably does have the best chance of coming back next compared to the rest of the lot. I’ve mostly seen people talk about how Redox and Blaster are the most abuseable in the modern game, but more sparse arguments against Tidal
@@JustInCaseD you are asking for frog engines to become broken as hell.
What they need is an errata which restricts their effects: can only be special summoned from the hand, if they’re banished they can’t search themselves.
I just really like the idea of older decks coming back to full power to shake up the meta and create more diverse formats. That being said, I think Dragon Rulers aren't old enough to come back yet. Wind-Ups and Inzektors should absolutely come back as fun and powerful tier 2 options.
I just want my pantheism back to 3 #bringbackmonarchs
Praise Monarchs!
Yo I got everything for my extra deck monarchs in my deck binder. Love that deck 10/10
Homura Akemi plz unban infernity
Homura Akemi I'll settle for stormforth back to 3. I just wanna be able to play tribute summon decks again. My earthbound immortal deck wasn't great but it was viable then... ;_;
zuleanservant stormforth is too generic to make it to 3 again. It basically makes everything you want kaiju
Someone used a deck of banned cards with these and they negated everything and he had the audacity to say that I can't use a exodia deck
How the fuck did he negate everything? I don’t remember any rank sevens that negate nor any ruler effects that say anything about negating.
Supreme Fool Maybe links or synchros Idk What negates other than mst
As someone who has loved mermails since day 1 (mostly because of their synergy with frogs, my favourite archetype of all time) i just want to say that I get very excited if people top events with mermail decks :D
Pot of Acqusitiveness can also cycle the Dragon Rulers back though it would put them back into the deck instead.
Here's a real question, if all the major decks except exodia had their cards unbanned, which deck would be the strongest now?
leonscottkennedyre4 prolly d rulers or pepe or zoo or something abuseable
PrinceXL The thing about true draco is that against Pretty much any good deck before it cant out masterpeace. Nekroz Can do it But Its a bit hard because u have to bait The pop rulers Can do it with The level 4 synchro that equips itself (cant remember name) and even then they have to bait The pop (dont know if books or pepe Can out it)
Rulers and maybe people for sure. Evern things like Nekroz and zoodiac don't hold a candle to these decks in their prime.
Every single ftk deck.
Magical explosions FTK
Return of the Dragon lords came out in the felgrand structure deck
Dragon rulers in nutshel:speed of 2018 i 2013
Tempest: am I joke to you?
Waiting for Dragon Rulers to be power crept and unbanned : ^)
Idc about DRs I just want super rejuve back so my beloved heiratics can be as great as they should be. #FullPowerHieratic
I think that at the end of 2018 there is a genuine argument that rulers could come back because all the decks in the meta have hard counters to them (I’m talking Geist, t drag, striker and FTK) and it would be interesting to see them back when colossus stops the searching, as well as stops dark matter dragon from destroying them by battle and Geist negates their stuff and non target/destruction removals it, striker just negates their effects and takes control of them, as well as destroys them quite easily (ftk just does what it says on the tin).
Also ash blossom and droll are things so they could be used against the search effects, or belle could be used against return if the dragon lords.
I just feel like that with so many counters to them there is a decent argument now for them to come back (maybe not fully but in part at least).
I didn’t play the game when dragon rulers were about so I’m not an expert and tell me if I’m wrong.
Just because the game has counters for d rulers doesn’t mean they can come back. Should pot of greed comeback just because we have ash? Nope. The d rulers are just gonna stay banned forever.
here's an idea for an errata for dragon rulers. When this card is summoned or sent to the GY: banish all "Dragon Ruler" monsters with different attributes from your hand, deck, field, or GY, face-down. This will prevent dragon rulers from working together.
Now I know why this video got demonitised, you're spreading false news, Return of the Dragon Lords came in the Rise of the True Dragon Lords structure deck a.k.a. the second Felgrand structure deck and is not a Blue-Eyes card although Blue-Eyes can make the best use out of it.
He made a comment, correcting himself. But yeah, he's "fake news."
Lol
I stopped playing Yu Gi Oh because how badly balanced it is. They always make gigantic powercreeps and then ban them. It's absurd how many cards are banned so fast.
Late reply but i really dgaf.
Most of the time its because of unseen abuse potential just like super rejuvenation with the dragon rulers, when super rejuvenation came out in 2005 or so it was a rather bad/mediocre card but everything changed when the -fire nation attacked- dragon rulers came by, another example is morphing jar #2 (and another miller card) and all-out attack, and many other combinations of old cards with new cards, i think it is too hard to keep track of all the damn cards that are created, but yeah there is also some other cards are created just to be almost instantly banned.
Dragon rulers would do OK in todays game. The reason why is that it has no heavy hitters to get damage rolling. Of course you can keep spamming them but what would they do with link monsters is nothing but use the rulers to link summon more powerful extra deck monsters. They can get unbanned one day and they would get a win or two but they can't get any farther then they where years ago. I use a dragon ruler beck and it has a hard time going agents other modern decks that run off links. Thanks to link monsters the deck has a hard time of spamming that big eye or any other xyz monsters. Link monsters gives the deck bulk and makes it have to do more that it was supposed to do.
I loved Dragon Rulers, even when they were the best deck. It made me very sad to see them go because of Number 95. That doesn't make me a meta whore, I just love the deck. I'm sure there were plenty of people who actually loved to play Zoodiac and were very upset when Broadbull and Drident got banned, not because it was meta but because it fit their playing style.
Also, the most recent Ruler roster didn't focus on making Level 8 Synchros or Rank 7 Xyz nearly as much as they did when they first came out, it was mostly just a deck focused on finding some way to make a Rank 8 to turn into Dark Matter. While I agree with you that things like Arkbrave, Goliathe, the Blue-Eyes support cards, the Felgrand support cards, Snow and Grass would probably be really broken in Dragon Rulers, there are easy ways of making sure the Rulers wouldn't be a tier 0 relevant deck. I'll list a few.
Limit PsyFrame Lord Omega at least. It should have been archetype specific in the first place, and its not even really used in its own archetype, it's used in Shiranui Zombie and it's usually spammed out as much as possible during 1 turn, taking out an opponent's entire hand. I don't recall Dragon Rulers ever being that unfair.
Limit Snow (in the TCG) because it being at three increases your chance of drawing it or milling it with Grass, which just makes it easier for you to banish fodder in order to summon it, making it a very real possibility to go plus 8 off of her.
Limit Eclipse Wyvern. It makes me sad to say this, but this is why Dark Matter became such a problem, it inspired a degenerate mix of Lightsworns and Rulers that made Judgment Dragon stupid easy to summon, and it's useful only for getting Darkness Metal Dragon and/or Blue-Eyes Alternative White Dragon.
Speaking of which, limit Dark Matter. It's the reason Dragon Rulers got banned in the first place.
Limit Dragon Ravine at least. It being at 3 could make Ravine Rulers a thing again, and I'm not sure if the meta would be prepared for that.
Limit Arkbrave Dragon and Return of the Dragon Lords. Arkbrave Dragon is useful to send using Dark Matter's effect, and makes summoning Amorphage Goliath stupid easy. Return of the Dragon Lords brings back anything in the grave you could ever want, and practically makes everything you have on the board immune to Raigeki.
...and for hecks sake, limit that damn Firewall Dragon!
Agreed..
Although Firewall might never get touched because its a main protagonist card
Although keep ROTDL at 3 or many just 2 since dragons will get hurt badly, Arkbrave Dragon getting limited if fine
And isn't being immune to raigeki a good thing since well, that thing wipes the enemy monsters(no excuse, not exceptions *cough*unlessdestructionimmuneorunaffected*cough*) for FREE
At least the player worked a bit or something to set up the board while Raigeki just kills things for free..
Honestly don't think the Dragon Rulers will not do much damage if they and their babies are a t 1
1) we didnt hate the deck we hated it proce tag.
2) e dragons were playing with 6 card hands 5 cards slows it down
3) yue deck will get heavily stuned by hand traps
Bruh
Left arm offering triggers rulers while searching soul charge.
If they bring them back to 1, that's really no big deal.
I remember seeing these cards on the banlist not too long ago and the art design really caught my attention. All 4 boss monsters have fantastic art work.
Dragon ruler hands down best deck they banned the whole archetype! The whole deck unbann it it'll be tier 0 again with ease
Get demonitized
Number 95 and the limited to 1 Dragon rulers were legal for one event only, and that event was the Maryland regional, I attended that regional where a lot of players scrambled to get the deck prior to the event. I only played against 1, and I can’t remember the outcome, but I know the deck was good. Thank Komoney for not hitting it faster :)
i think the only thing fearful about wind ups is the hand loop. similar in how you mentioned omega in rulers regardless it can even recycle, you just special rulers get a level 1 tuner and boom omega, than tag out to hit a card x3 and they move out of extra link zones.
even with links winds up can get around by tributing carrier and bringing out the next carrier which is insane. its extremely consistent too only needing 2 to 3 cards and you have multiple ways to get your combo started.
the other issue is an alternative shock lock, this again only takes about 3 cards but this time you cant get around links with just those 3 combo pieces. if you do happen to, i guess bagooska would be the sub for shock.
the deck doesnt do much with only 1 carrier currently even with hunter legal and 2 magicians. if it does comeback i cant see all cards being unlimited, i can see carrier slowly coming back or hunter banned and carrier to 2 or 3.
hand traps like ash and ogre somewhat hurt the deck alot like any other deck but the deck had only dealt with veiler and maxx c previous for turn 1. i also cant see this deck surviving turn 2 against the current and future meta because it has to rely on heavy link support to bring out its main win con, plus it has to run removal to deal with board pres, and it has to play around hand traps and backrow. it no longer has heavy, reborn, or avarice, i could see this playing shuffle reborn though since its og zoo.
the deck without hand loop is magician boards without pendulum summoning, spyral boards with a zoo aspect, and a burning abyss board but instead of beatrice, its a flood monster.
an awkward version of this deck with only the hand loop is basically trickstar.
idk what are your thoughts dzeeff?
btw i know that you were totally joking and your actually admitting konami should bring back the rulers just for me Kappa
They can come back if you nerf them. That's the only way. Either that or just bring one of the back to one.
if they come back they arent nerfed then
PokéKid errata. But that still seems far fetched.
Jory Porteous erratas would ruin them. i agree its far fetched, i never see erratas as a choice because it pushes people away from playing those cards ever again which is unfair.
And errats pretty much ruins the legacy of a card
Look at Crush Card Virus, it was practically defiled and ruined honestly
Your opponent should have the CHOICE to kill up to 3 of their monsters from their decks since it could pretty much backfire
Should have been the USER'S choice to do that honestly
they should just make newer versions, like with pot of duality as the new see 3 cards opposed to graceful and with dichotomy and jar of ava for pot of ava. even things like jar of greed, reckless greed, and desires are new versions of pot of greed without nerfing the card. they shoulda just made a new virus card and things like new sangan and witch, they made gouki lol.
as said above by minicooper, true kings are new rulers (even though they are very inconsistent and got very close to completely useless, they already took a big hit with lithos gone)
Can someone explain to me why these are so good? Last time I played synchros were new lmao
Recently started getting into things but I don't know what combos these can pull off
CloudyVenom check out Lithium2300. He dose cross Banlist duells and you can see Rulers in action, aganst other OP decks (e.g. tete DAD)
Journey of the Soul yeah, and Gold Sarcophagus triggered their effects immediately, they had indirect support with sacred sword.
I've seen Skull Lair do work in D Rulers.
Huh interesting, I'll look into Lithium later. They sound kinda interesting actually, I play with a friend with no banlist online so I might throw something together
Journey of the Soul remind me of old times, i used wind type DR in my MPB deck
I honestly feel like there are enough play disruption in the game now that each Dragon Ruler to one would not be broken but simply balance. Granted you can play Omega, but people can Strike it, Ghost Ash it, or even use that PK trap. Just saying, granted in the past few years since that format they were still considered broken but the game has evolved since that time
During Wind-Up/Inzektor/Dino-Rabbit era I played Dark Worlds every week at my locals once they came out and Wind-Ups could do nothing against me. I usually always had an out to the other two decks as well. Either negate the spell or lose your Laggia to Grapha but I have another discard spell waiting anyway
Ban Omega and bring back the Rulers GGEZ
Why ban 1 of the best Synhcros in the game rather than errataing Rulers to just make them attribute specific.(No Dragon support.)
but tbh omega can go burn in hell, I want to play my dragon rulers :(
Omega can stay, d-rulers no.
"Let's take out one of the only things making Synchro decks playable right now so we can have these ridiculously powerful monsters that can spam out Links via Galaxy Tomahawk along with other power plays."
Yeah, okay pal.
Cory in the House that sounds like a great idea But Its not like They Can lock u out of the extradeck by sending arkbrave dragon and amorphage goliath to The grave of Dark matter dragon oh wait they now have a walking vanities emptiness👌👌👌
I say do an errata where the Dragon Rulers and their babies don’t work with Dragons and just make them generic support for attributes. Of course leave the part where they can only search a Dragon of their Attribute and not just any monster of that Attribute, cause that would be bonkers.
I feel people argue that certain cards should come back for certain decks because now-a-days they seem more healthy and balanced compared to what we have now. The Dragon Rulers in their current iteration should not return.
remove ban list, no errata
I came back around during the Inzektor, Dino-Rabbit, Wind-Up meta and truth be told it was just hell, even with how smart i got utilizing Lightsworns it was stil insanely hard
A year later and we got Omega to 1, Snow banned, and Tempest back to 1.
I believe that once the Guardragon package is taken out, that all the Dragon Rulers could possibly return to 1.