@@gorahindu3196 Once again, as Thomas Sowell would say, that is simply "An argument without an argument." ("Intellectuals and Society," Thomas Sowell pg. 54) arguments
@@gorahindu3196 You don't because you don't want to expose your infantile "ideas" to scrutiny. Like I said, "No skin in the game." Tacit attacks without revealing your prescriptions, strategies and courses of action is the definition of cowardice. Hahaha, goofy collectivists! LOL
@@gorahindu3196 Whoa whoa whoa, I made assumptions? Look back at the thread. The person INITIAITING assumptions was you! I was simply REACTING to the assumptions. It's called LOGICALLY FOLLOWING. The very anti-thesis of a libertarian (One who believes in maximum freedom for the INDIVIDUAL) is a collectivist. A probabilistically valid INFERENCE to make regarding your comments would be that since you denigrate LIBERTY, you laud collective action. Why would you engage me then if you you didn't want to "waste time." You are aware YOU started the thread right? This is like the thief trying to say he isn't a bad guy in the middle of committing a robbery. All of your statements are EMPTY.
Have you ever watched a Shapiro speech or debate? He uses actual documentaries empirical evidence in his arguments, and his opponents seem to only be able to use emotional arguments.
@@libertycowboy2495 That may be the case, some of the time. Liberty Cowboy, unfortunately Ben is not interested in liberty for either of us. He’s completely bought and paid for, and he will shamelessly do whatever it takes to secure a fat pay packet. He has said as much himself, and his sponsored videos also attest to that. Fame has gone to his head, and has corrupted all of the other well-known talking heads out there who think they know it all. Trust your own instincts and your own insights instead of always agreeing and accepting the sentiments of that horrid worm. Don’t let him do your thinking for you. It’s very important. Also, I can think of a multitude of times where Ben has made emotional arguments, without any facts. Especially when it comes to a particular place in the *COUGH* Middle East *COUGH* .
"Every bit as insulting as a Tory twice his age." ROFL "At one point I thought he was going to say something that made sense! -Oh yes, but he JUST avoided it!" Here we are years later and still just as relevant! LOL
William Rees-Mogg was the guy who wrote a newspaper editorial in 1967 that criticised the law's treatment of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards over trifling offences that wouldn't normally have seen the light of day. Hard to imagine his son being quite so sympathetic to the 'counterculture', isn't it?
@@Plethorality Sea sponges (well, some of them) can live for one to two hundred years. He's saying that the skit has aged really well; i.e. it's still as applicable now as it was back then.
I feel that Susan and the judge are just at the realization that they like eachother. The dim lights, Stephen`s soft voice asking questions and Hugh’s sensing that his opinions are highly valued are giving off an attraction vibe. Their gradually appreciation of eachother is another supblot here. Brilliantly done.
The increasingly uncommon but original sense of 'awesome' (to mean, as here, 'awe-inspiring' rather than generically 'good') is entirely typical of upper-class speech.
BRILLIANT. Keeping this bit as a touchstone point of reference. There’s an accurate transcript which I will share soon. The “transcript” here on youtube is well-intended, yet hopeless- too many errors. This sketch appeared originally in 1995! Was only posted to Internet in 2008- it did not originally appear in 2008, just to be clear. 👍🏽
This is the first time I have seen Stephen -- whom I admire immensely -- performing in drag. His ability to be knee-slapping funny without cracking up is heroic!
3:15 "Very assured, very ghastly: completely sucked dry of youth, energy, ideals, imagination, love, passion or intelligence." Looks like a review of BoJo's "Peppa Pig" speech 😄😃
"the young and hip-trendy", is a phrase I feel should from now on be used in national newspapers in place of "hoodies"...no reason I just think it's funnier
A bit of Fry and Laurie - it's the name of TV series Hugh Laurie (of recent House MD fame) and Stephen Fry did in UK in, I think, 70s-80s. It has a lot of masterfuly done sketches - both guys were (and are) true, top-class actors and it shows even when they are essentialy fooling around!
American politics in 2 minutes! "Every bit as insulting as a Tory twice his age." "At one point I thought he was going to say something that made sense!"
The thumbs down is now up to 61, but more Tories have watched it, than that. It's just that some have thumbed it up as they believed that he put on a good show, and they want to vote for him.
If only Sunak was half as coherent and on point with his replys to any questions as to why he does f all in the face of several crisis situations he helped cause.
So, the UK was a good decade, if not two, ahead of US in culture wars & right wing lunacy. One of the values of history is seeing how seemingly new social pathologies always turn out to have deep precedents & the far right has always been full of it in pretty much the same way they are now.
bloody brilliant this should get replayed on tv somewhere for the uk would be a good laugh we need more comedy like the old days open all hours.. on the buses .. the last of the summer wine.. flowery twats xD! ,, monty python .. the 2 ronnies all funny old stuff hey im only 29!
The music is a theme by Gustav Holst called Thaxted. He first used it in the movement Jupiter from The Planets, but it was also used for the patriotic hymn "I Vow to Thee, my Country", and it's probably this hymn that is being referenced in the sketch. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Vow_to_Thee%2C_My_Country
Yes, and when I found that out I nodded and said, "that explains a lot". I refuse to call them "Conservatives" as they are not even attempting to conserve anything remotely British or traditional.
@@70AD-user45 I'm neither a Loony nor humiliated by the election (although I am Economically left wing, as in I want workers to be treated decently, and for there not to be a massive disparity between the richest and the poorest; only cunts would disagree with those two), as it was a given that Boris would win. The last election was purely about Brexit, not that the Labour party or the BBC (or most of the msm, or that matter) could admit that that was what the election was about. They are too insulated from the realities of most peoples' lives, that and they are faux PC. "Hahaha.😂😂" Very childish. Btw, what happened in 70 AD that you want to commemorate?
pineapplepenumbra - Annexation of the island of Samothrace by the Roman Empire under Vespasian? Seven years before Pompeii was destroyed? The Roman siege of Jerusalem? I have no clue what 70 AD is commemorating.
Not to be a downer, but it isn't and idk where you heard that from. The Irish for theif is gadaí. Now my Irish is a little rusty so maybe there's another word that I don't know. But there's no letter y in Irish either so it'd have to be spelled differently.
@VinewoodSniper I couldn't believe it when I saw that the Tina Fey/Amy Poehler version wasn't even a parody. It was just a transcript. Hilarious and perfect.
It really is an honor to see Jacob Rees Mogg in his early years.
His speech is about "human bigotry and libertarian nonsense" 😄😃
They have the exact same figure as well
😂
seething and obsessed
“While the audience throws quietly up” genius, Stephen’s conductors encouraging face makes it
shame he's a tory now
Very assured, very ghastly, completely sucked dry of youth, energy, ideals, imagination, love, passion, or intelligence.
1:04 - "The lights are going down behind us as you can probably hear"
thankyou susan
"Andrew is in his second year at Exeter University, reading Human Bigotry and Libertarian Nonsense."
I guess when you can't defeat them on the grounds of reason, argument and logic, you need to straw man and satire
@@gorahindu3196
Once again, as Thomas Sowell would say, that is simply "An argument without an argument." ("Intellectuals and Society," Thomas Sowell pg. 54)
arguments
@@gorahindu3196
You don't because you don't want to expose your infantile "ideas" to scrutiny. Like I said, "No skin in the game."
Tacit attacks without revealing your prescriptions, strategies and courses of action is the definition of cowardice.
Hahaha, goofy collectivists! LOL
@@gorahindu3196 Whoa whoa whoa, I made assumptions? Look back at the thread. The person INITIAITING assumptions was you!
I was simply REACTING to the assumptions.
It's called LOGICALLY FOLLOWING. The very anti-thesis of a libertarian (One who believes in maximum freedom for the INDIVIDUAL) is a collectivist. A probabilistically valid INFERENCE to make regarding your comments would be that since you denigrate LIBERTY, you laud collective action.
Why would you engage me then if you you didn't want to "waste time."
You are aware YOU started the thread right?
This is like the thief trying to say he isn't a bad guy in the middle of committing a robbery. All of your statements are EMPTY.
@@dmonarredmonarre3076 Hahahaha you are transparently triggered, and I can't even see what you're responding to.
This is almost, actually, literally how Ben Shapiro was made.
This would be Ben Shapiro 100% if he were British.
@@matthewodonnell6906 I can't imagine what Ben Shropshireo would be like.... 🤮
@@emmanuelgoldspleen2905 Absolutely horrifying, a Thatcherite Tory through-&-through who actively campaigned for Boris Johnson.
Have you ever watched a Shapiro speech or debate? He uses actual documentaries empirical evidence in his arguments, and his opponents seem to only be able to use emotional arguments.
@@libertycowboy2495 That may be the case, some of the time. Liberty Cowboy, unfortunately Ben is not interested in liberty for either of us.
He’s completely bought and paid for, and he will shamelessly do whatever it takes to secure a fat pay packet.
He has said as much himself, and his sponsored videos also attest to that. Fame has gone to his head, and has corrupted all of the other well-known talking heads out there who think they know it all.
Trust your own instincts and your own insights instead of always agreeing and accepting the sentiments of that horrid worm. Don’t let him do your thinking for you.
It’s very important.
Also, I can think of a multitude of times where Ben has made emotional arguments, without any facts. Especially when it comes to a particular place in the *COUGH* Middle East *COUGH* .
"Every bit as insulting as a Tory twice his age." ROFL "At one point I thought he was going to say something that made sense! -Oh yes, but he JUST avoided it!" Here we are years later and still just as relevant! LOL
"...the endless variations in J major."
I missed that until you brought attention to it, tks!
I’d never noticed it!
That aged disturbingly well.
Am I missing something
"Genuine displays of ignorance and prejudice" - I lost it! 🤣🤣
It's scary how some things don't change.
humans never change. still the same old bronze age shit.
Are you well ? Evi etc;
Isn't that exactly what conservative means?
It’s the kind of competition Rees Mogg would probably have entered when he was young.
good on you for finding out what conservatism is moron.
I think the contestant was a young William Reece-Mogg.
Did you mean Jacob Rees-Mogg?
Did you mean Ben Shapiro?
@@pineapplepenumbra Maybe not. William R-M was J R-M`s father.
@@georgerubypoppy1063 Bloody hell, you're right!
I didn't know that he had a father, I thought he just stepped out of an old documentary or something.
William Rees-Mogg was the guy who wrote a newspaper editorial in 1967 that criticised the law's treatment of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards over trifling offences that wouldn't normally have seen the light of day.
Hard to imagine his son being quite so sympathetic to the 'counterculture', isn't it?
This was satire once.
Now it's an improvement on the current Tory leader.
If this is what the Young Conservatives competition is like, I'd hate to think what the UKIP youth division competition would be like.
Just young skin heads hitting each other with sticks.
Springtime for you-know-who.
Best Hitler Salute Competition maybe?
Blackest shirt contest ?
They say the same things, just really loudly and in a thick German accent.
3:10 "I thought at one point he was going to say something which made sense" XD
"Yes, he just avoided it."
The truth does not make "sense"; that is why so few people understand it.
@@richardlaversuch9460 - lol! Nice attempt at a save!
@@richardlaversuch9460 "that is why so few people understand it."
And you think that tories know what the "truth" is, do you?
Sounds exactly like Auto-generated cloud speech based on all other Torie speeches. Absolutely brilliant
How far we have come in terms of auto generation by now
A perfect sketch, relevant probably anywhere in the world
Some skits endure the passage of time better than others and this one has aged like a sea sponge.
?
@@Plethorality Sea sponges (well, some of them) can live for one to two hundred years. He's saying that the skit has aged really well; i.e. it's still as applicable now as it was back then.
@@waltonsimons12 thank you!
@@waltonsimons12 thank you, I had no idea if that was good or bad!
Ummm... how does a sea sponge age?
"In the Daily Mail Hall, Horrorgate".
I wouldn't be able to say why but that little moment "it doesn't sound" at around 0.50 is one of my favourite moments of TV ever
They interrupt each other with such perfect awkwardness.
I feel that Susan and the judge are just at the realization that they like eachother.
The dim lights, Stephen`s soft voice asking questions and Hugh’s sensing that his opinions are highly valued are giving off an attraction vibe.
Their gradually appreciation of eachother is another supblot here. Brilliantly done.
The beginnings of Ben Shapiro.
Who?
@@cityzens634 poo
@@PlayNiceFolks Poo?
@@cityzens634
Dunno. I've never heard of him until I prepared for this.
Lol
Only Hugh can make the word ‘awesome’ sound upper class.
The increasingly uncommon but original sense of 'awesome' (to mean, as here, 'awe-inspiring' rather than generically 'good') is entirely typical of upper-class speech.
These must be those "trendy young people in their 60s".
Who knew that they got Alan Davis as the conductor. Seriously that wig Steven wears cracks me up.
Haha it's fantastic how he can play "susan" and the conductor - while appearing to be 2 totally different characters. Same for Hugh Lawrie!
To think that promising young Tory grew up to be the current prime minister
But somehow lost the eloquence that was shown here
The number of times I've seen, and laughed at, this sketch, I've never noticed the line "...and the endless variations in J Major." Brilliant!
2 simple rules for life;
No.1 - Never trust a tory
No.2 - Never forget rule number 1
Rule 3 - Never trust any politician
@@josefserf1926 Rule 4 - if a politician had been saying the same thing for 40 years, they become a bit more trustworthy!
The sad thing is you could've made an identical skit about Labour though couldn't you?
I've never seen A Bit of Fry and Laurie written as ABOFAL, for a while I had no idea what I'm looking at
BRILLIANT. Keeping this bit as a touchstone point of reference. There’s an accurate transcript which I will share soon. The “transcript” here on youtube is well-intended, yet hopeless- too many errors. This sketch appeared originally in 1995! Was only posted to Internet in 2008- it did not originally appear in 2008, just to be clear. 👍🏽
Any update on the transcript? Or a link to it?
Uncanny how Hugh giving his speech is a dead ringer for Rory Stewart!
That's ironic as Rory Stewart comes across as a human being...
This is the first time I have seen Stephen -- whom I admire immensely -- performing in drag. His ability to be knee-slapping funny without cracking up is heroic!
There is plenty Vox Pop segments from ABOFAL when Fry was dressed as a woman.
3:15 "Very assured, very ghastly: completely sucked dry of youth, energy, ideals, imagination, love, passion or intelligence."
Looks like a review of BoJo's "Peppa Pig" speech 😄😃
"Well, the lights are going down behind us as you can probably hear"
Love it!
Kind of reminds me of The Upperclass Twit of the Year race from Monty Python's Flying Circus.
I'm sure there'll be some car door slamming in the streets of Kensington tonight.
And that was inept too.
@@richardlaversuch9460 alright gammonface
THis is a brilliant sketch!! Dionysos 37 is correct this IS American politics in less than 60 seconds; These guys were a 2- man circus.
I love the musical accompaniment. Spot on.
Just one of my favourite sketches of all time. Perfect. So good. Important to rewatch every few months.
as true now as ever
Truly prophetic...and here we are in 2023.
And 2024.........😂😢
"Devoid of love, passion or intelligence" - some things never change!
"And why not...trickle down economics...austerity measures...I make no apologies!"
Jacob Rees-Mogg: The Early Years
Never seen this before, brilliant! So many quotable remarks in there....
Mindblowing. That English judge looks almost identical to that grouchy American doctor with the hot lady boss.
That IS the same guy who plays
Dr. House LOL
Wooosh.
Lol "The lights are going down behind us, as you can probably HEAR." :D
"the young and hip-trendy", is a phrase I feel should from now on be used in national newspapers in place of "hoodies"...no reason I just think it's funnier
Mogg
Ben Shapiro sounds exactly like this
And honestly, I could not care less if you are triggered by that fact.
@@oliverlambkin3412 Nobody asked you, seems like you are looking for conflict
"we're returning you to the shop where we bought you."
my favourite ABOFAL sketch!
You forgot the air quotes, m'colleague.
"A Bit of Fry and Laurie."
Strong contender for next year's Upper Class Twit of the Year Contest.
wonderful timing
And absolutely nothing has changed.
The endless variations in J major i love best.
I'm watching Stephen's conductor thinking of a young Jeremy Clarkson! It's an awful thought!
Hahahahaha!!!!!
"Am I not even, perhaps God?"
Excellent.
I see that conservatism in the Old Country didn't differ much from conservatism in the modern USA. It was just better dressed and far less obese.
and then there is Boris ... the spitting image of T***p ... we are just as adept at stupid
Yeah....that's pretty much the American conservative elite. Universal mentality of the privileged class from time immemorial.
Be bold let it show sometime,
I vow to thee, my country... Such a beautiful hymn
You should see the song played in "The Day Today" parody and Penny Mordaunt's PM campaign video as well 😆
A bit of Fry and Laurie - it's the name of TV series Hugh Laurie (of recent House MD fame) and Stephen Fry did in UK in, I think, 70s-80s.
It has a lot of masterfuly done sketches - both guys were (and are) true, top-class actors and it shows even when they are essentialy fooling around!
godfric Between 1989 and 1995 in fact. Quite a bit later.
Whoever thinks this is unsubstantiated satirical nonsense might just as well take a close look at the current state of the great nation now...
American politics in 2 minutes! "Every bit as insulting as a Tory twice his age." "At one point I thought he was going to say something that made sense!"
"Human bigotry and libertarian nonsense." killing me lol
36 conservatives watched this video it seems
The thumbs down is now up to 61, but more Tories have watched it, than that. It's just that some have thumbed it up as they believed that he put on a good show, and they want to vote for him.
Oh, and still fully relevant today!!
Is that music “Fanfare For The Common Man”? That’s genius!
I think it's 'Jupiter' by Gustav Holst.
that music is jupiter from holst's the planets
THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM 10 YEARS LATER
No it isn't, it is, "I vow to thee my country'.
@@zoepadmore9922 'I vow to thee my country' puts words to the melody Holst wrote. It came later.
Brilliant
If only Sunak was half as coherent and on point with his replys to any questions as to why he does f all in the face of several crisis situations he helped cause.
So, the UK was a good decade, if not two, ahead of US in culture wars & right wing lunacy. One of the values of history is seeing how seemingly new social pathologies always turn out to have deep precedents & the far right has always been full of it in pretty much the same way they are now.
"Every bit as insulting as a Tory twice his age."
bloody brilliant this should get replayed on tv somewhere for the uk would be a good laugh we need more comedy like the old days open all hours.. on the buses .. the last of the summer wine.. flowery twats xD! ,, monty python .. the 2 ronnies all funny old stuff hey im only 29!
The orchestra is playing Vaughan Williams' Five Variants of Dives and Lazarus.
I hope you're joking
Sounds more like "Jupiter" by Gustav Holst.
@@EddieGaster you were right the part they play is around 3:20 it sounded so familiar it was driving me nuts trying to remember
The music is a theme by Gustav Holst called Thaxted. He first used it in the movement Jupiter from The Planets, but it was also used for the patriotic hymn "I Vow to Thee, my Country", and it's probably this hymn that is being referenced in the sketch.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Vow_to_Thee%2C_My_Country
NatCon Conference 2023
oh how times have changes.
"I thought for a moment he was going to say something that made sense."
Yes he JUST avoided it
The young conservatives then are our cabinet members now. Was this used as training material?
Strong and stable!
That bloody wig 🤣🤣🤣
"Tory" is Irish for bandit or thief.
Yes, and when I found that out I nodded and said, "that explains a lot".
I refuse to call them "Conservatives" as they are not even attempting to conserve anything remotely British or traditional.
@@pineapplepenumbra
Looney left comment no doubt from a Corbyn voter who was humiliated at the last general election. Hahaha.😂😂😂
@@70AD-user45 I'm neither a Loony nor humiliated by the election (although I am Economically left wing, as in I want workers to be treated decently, and for there not to be a massive disparity between the richest and the poorest; only cunts would disagree with those two), as it was a given that Boris would win. The last election was purely about Brexit, not that the Labour party or the BBC (or most of the msm, or that matter) could admit that that was what the election was about.
They are too insulated from the realities of most peoples' lives, that and they are faux PC.
"Hahaha.😂😂"
Very childish.
Btw, what happened in 70 AD that you want to commemorate?
pineapplepenumbra - Annexation of the island of Samothrace by the Roman Empire under Vespasian? Seven years before Pompeii was destroyed? The Roman siege of Jerusalem? I have no clue what 70 AD is commemorating.
Not to be a downer, but it isn't and idk where you heard that from. The Irish for theif is gadaí. Now my Irish is a little rusty so maybe there's another word that I don't know. But there's no letter y in Irish either so it'd have to be spelled differently.
the correct short for "a bit of Fry and Laurie" is ABOFAL what is with a bit imagination above all. coincidence I don't think so :)
The BBC will never air a comedy sketch like this today.
Confrence!
Forward With Into Britain Tomorrow Right Step
Lucky's speech from Waiting For Godot
i love how high pitched he say "conference" at 1:39 hahaha
@VinewoodSniper I couldn't believe it when I saw that the Tina Fey/Amy Poehler version wasn't even a parody. It was just a transcript. Hilarious and perfect.
ben shapiro
The song is Jupiter from Gustav Holst's The Planets
Still true after all these years.
Jeffrey Archer clapping in approval at the end lol 😂
Whilst Mary sat there stone faced and motionless. I assume this was post Monica Coghlan.
1:29 "Forward With Into Britain Tomorrow Right Step"
1:39 Good lord! the resemblance to ben shapiro's voice caught me off guard.
Endless variations in J Major...
This is going to be a nice performance to make at Speaker's Corner every now and then.
This is remarkably similar to the BBC Radio show "Saturday Night Fry" which also featured Stephen's fantastically dry humor.
That trendy liberal education!
And nowadays Tories don't disappoint and sing exactly the same tune... how wonderful! 😂
Hugh Laurie went to Eton so he probably spent a lot of his time alongside people like this!