The Incredible Retro Futurism Of Walt Disney
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If Walt Disney gets to see the position of his company right now, what does he have to say about it?
He would not like how his creative endeavour has turned into a giant cooperation
"My head is really cold."
oof.
My man. Your videos are incredible. Long may this channel continue to flourish. Just a side note. I'm a filmmaker myself and I've been actively building a retro-futuristic IP over the last five years. So seeing these videos serves as not only great reference, but creative motivation as well.
As a huge Star Wars fan I laughed when you made mention of Disney "ruining" the latests movies of the franchise. Sadly, it's true. 😄I appreciate the amount of research you put into these wonderful videos!! I LOVED that Walt was a futurist and had his team of Imagineers working for him. What a shame his vision couldn't have been brought to fruition after his death. I love MagLev Monorails. Disney's futuristic ideas remind me so much of Jacque Fresco of The Venus Project. Thank you for keeping futurism alive. I appreciate your content. 😁👍
Great video. Much appreciated.
Walt Disney may not have lived to see his vision realized, but at least we can still appreciate his cool ideas all these years later. And he really wanted to implement his ideas, too, not just make cool concept art for magazines.
I feel if people really appreciated Disney's vision they would try to emulate him. Disney inspired. People need to think like he did of a better tomorrow instead of wallowing in hate and tribal fighting.
Progress City and what it offered can still come into existence but only if people try to create it.
In my heart, I live in Epcot as Walt envisioned it
So, you envision yourself working for either Disney or any of the companies in EPCOT and fear the day you got fired?
Money is more like why not. Even a visionary has to bow to economics.
incorrect. only a defeatist does. Only greed does, only those who has to always follow the dollar does. Visionaries don't give a damn about economics unless it serves there purpose. They see beyond economics, and if it has to face them, a true visionary will find a way to go around it, or use it.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent"Banks don't accept dreams as collateral" - Walt Disney
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Don't accept banks as the end all of said dreams, after all. A bank was once someone's dream as well. Why let someone else's dream ruin yours? - Quetzalcoatl :P.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_SerpentAsk Roy E. Disney that question, you know the "Mr. Disney" every animator, writer, cameraman, concession operator, cast member, etc receive their paycheck from? He absolutely knew how hard funding Walt's dreams is...
Walt's mission was to fill children of all ages with a sense of wonder and optimism for a future utopia. Sadly, now, the company he built is now associated with other things not utopian. Walt, himself, no longer alive to defend himself, has also been subjected to many attempts to smear his reputation as a visionary and as a man. BTW the urban legend that he had his head cryogenically frozen so he could be revived in the future is demonstrably false, he was cremated. Thanks for the post.
By stating this rumour about Walt Disneys head you inevitable reminded me in Futurama where the heads of famous people had been presserved as storytellers and as a shortcut to have present day celebs in that 31st century.
@@michaelstaengl1349 Indeed! "Family Guy" also did a cut-away gag about taking Walt out of the freezer. In fact, "Family Guy" did a few cut-aways that could be considered slander.
Mr. Ultra Futre, or should I call you Sebastian Maiorianus, I really like your versatility with you speaking so profound and with the same enthusiasm about all things retro-futurism as you talk about the late Antiquity.
Great video as always!
Yes Disney was a visionary in many ways. I did not know about his space movies though and will be checking them out
Also The Acolyte is quite good tbh
Disney epcot became a theme park instead of a city and the soviet union has there retro futurism
A form of "Epcot, the city of tomorrow" exists today, though we may not recognize it. The Villages, a series of retirement communities in south Florida incorporate many of the ideas envisioned by Disney for urban living, access to a central core for shopping, civic activities and recreation, residential areas surrounded by parkland and open space, use of people movers, or electric golf carts instead of automobiles. The downside is a homogenous population of older retired people who no longer work, and a lack of industry or strong business activity to attract and retain young people, as in other cities and metro areas.
I always wondered if someone out there could build a model of Progress city at least to the scale that Walt originally had and have it updated with what we would consider be updates to his original vision and throw in our own possible near future ideas. Imagine the possibilities. Then try to encourage someone brave enough, and rich and influential enough (several if possible) to create the real version.
The thing about Progress City (then EPCOT) is deep down it is a COMPANY TOWN. If you look at the proposal in depth, nobody except those who are actively employed by Disney or any of the sponsoring companies can live there and there is no concept of private property or privacy in there. They are tenants that have no control over what furniture they can have in their units or whether or not they can opt out of changing said furniture. There are no retirees or pensioners inside that city, and as I said so are private homeowners.
If you want to look at something similar to this, why not look at the Saudi Arabian project called "Neom: the Line City". It should tickle your fancy.
There was never any plan to put a dome over Epcot. Such a thing would have been completely unfeasible and also ridiculously dangerous. Given that the dimensions of Epcot itself were about 2 miles in diameter that would mean that a dome would have to be about a mile or a half mile tall in order to be structurally stable. Which would presents all kinds of problems, including being a hazard navigation and it would even affect local weather to some extent. And just cleaning the damn thing would cost enough to bankrupt small countries. Norm was there a concept of filming over the downtown area. The central structure of Epcot was essentially an incredibly large shopping mall about eight stories tall and about 50 or 60 acres I have internally area. This would have a flat roof and on top of the flat roof would be a 600 foot tall apartment complex. The shopping mall area would have apartment complexes as it’s outdoor wall looking out over the rest of the city. Anyway, there would be domes in the roof of the huge shopping mall area, but these were not, particularly large. They were simply skylights. They might be 50 or 100 feet across so as to let in a good deal of natural light, but as you can see from the diagrams, they’re not particularly huge and the only reason they’re domed is because flat. Glass would sag over such a large area..
So: small domed skylights in a shopping mall, but not domes over the downtown area or the entire city
Wouldn’t this have simply been “futurism?” Not “retro-futurism?”
Ironic that people will travel across the entire world for a piece of transit oriented development paradise yet rarely approve of the projects in their own cities... Strange and yet very American... Like people who drive across cities to get exercise...
"…visionaries like Elon Musk…"
ROFLMAO.
This is why Disney's vision is difficult even today. Cause people like you can't appreciate the fact that people such as Disney and Elon Musk exist.
Yes Elon Musk is a egotistical nut, but he is still a visionary. Afterall are you the one with a vision of reusable rockets with starships that can be re-used launching and landing right now?
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_SerpentDude, there already exists reusable rockets for space, it's called a Space Shuttle...
@@AdolphusEudora partially. The external fuel tank was not reusable. The shuttle itself and the 2 boosters were but required extensive refurbishment after each use. The system was still quite costly and refurbishment to relaunch was time consuming. The shuttle also was just that a shuttle. Short ranged and able to lift heavy equipment. Useful for orbital projects, but not designed for interplanetary travel. Think of it like a big pickup truck. Useful for carrying goods for short range hops but don't expect it to do much more than that. Technically it could but that requires extensive modifications. Starship is designed like a suv. Able to do a bit of everything but designed more for longe range traveling, with the difference is it's easier to produce and maintain compared to the orbiter shuttles.
Although now that I think about it. Producing modern orbiters with modern tech able to make interplanetary hops might make them quite useful compared to the more limited shuttle.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent - Not even close. Disney, he was a visionary. There is nothing visionary about Elon Musk, at all. Literally everything he has done is buying other people's companies/ideas. He literally has not onvoated a single thing.
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent Because the STS was a necessarily a manned launch vehicle, and only partially reusable, the cost of sending things into orbit was actually greater than unmanned disposable launch system. Good points Q! The STS was supposed to replace all launch systems for the USA, including the military, it failed at that but did succeed in many other missions.