NO GOAL.. MY SINCERE COMPASSION FOR GERMANS NATION. Modern studies using film analysis and computer simulation have shown that the whole ball never crossed the line - only 50% did. Both Duncan Gillies of the Visual Information Processing Group at Imperial College London and Ian Reid and Andrew Zisserman of the Department of Engineering Science at University of Oxford have stated that the ball would have needed to travel a further 18±4 cm to fully cross the line.
Will your next video be about Frank Lampard’s shot against the Germans which went about a foot over the goal line but wasn’t allowed ? Or will you just accept what most people with common sense have accepted, that you get some decisions and don’t get others ?
Emotive rubbish. My sincerest apologies to the gullible of this post. The angle of perspective is more than other camera angles. It doesn't matter how close it is if the frame didn't show the impact of the bounce beyond the line. Where is the splattered paint on a boiling hot day? It was repainted at full time.,and this was ten minutes in. The official was right.being a better angle of perspective than any camera. No need to grovel to impassioned objectors. Shame, even if 1 cm of curvature would be measure by a modern VAR..
I'm old enough to remember both matches. Absolutely not a slightly miniscule pale chanche in hell, earth, heaven or purgatory, for England to win any of these 2 matches, even with different referees decisions.
@asevado I'm not saying England would have won those matches, I'm talking about refereeing decisions where clear goals have been disallowed. That's what I was referring to when I said you win some, you lose some.
Since infinite universes exist, there is a very high probability that the ball went over the line in millions of these parellel universes. Not in ours, though.
@@maconescotland8996 My thoughts exactly! Had to go and rewatch the original clip to make sure I was neither going mad nor was it one of the most profound 'Mandela effects' of all time!
Always known for 58 years that the ball didn’t cross the line. For the next so called goal, the Ref should have stopped play due to crowd invasion. Alba’67
@@johnmanning5568 it was not fallacy because the dominant nation in Soviet Union were russians, and Azerbaijan was not independent since it was part of Soviet Union
@@Masda.X I agree that the dominant nation was Russia but the linesman wasn’t born and didn’t live in that country. He was born and lived in Azerbaijan, which was, as you say, part of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Azerbaijan was incorporated into the USSR in 1920 and was officially named as the Azerbaijani Soviet Socialist Republic. The country of Azerbaijan didn’t cease to exist. He was an Azerbaijani citizen who was part of the USSR. The linesman in 1966 was not a Russian citizen, he was an Azerbaijani citizen. The country of Azerbaijan still existed even though it wasn’t an independent state. A citizen of that proud nation would NEVER say that he was a Russian citizen.
@@johnmanning5568 It would be absurd if he said he is russian citizen because it does not make sense, during that era all Soviet people always proudly said they were citizen of Soviet Union. there were no nationalism in SSR, but socialism/communism. Why any would say that ? Only after the collapse of SSR, people started to emphasize the nationality of major figures more and more ...
Look at Roger Hunt's reaction he's in no doubt and doesn't even attempt to play a ball that should have been begging to be knocked over the line. It's a goal.
Em 1966, a regra era diferente. A bola precisava passar só 51% da linha. Beckenbauer deu uma entrevista no Brasil ( Programa Jo Soares) falando que a Inglaterra mereceu vencer aquela Copa do Mundo.
Apparently West Germany’s equaliser to make it 2-2 there was a hand ball in the build up by a German player so it evened out , so the game should have finished 2-1 to England 🏴 ⚽️✌️
Should not have been playing extra time anyway ... The German equalizer came from a free kick that was given the wrong way, it was the England player who was fouled and not the German ... so this put things right again ... game should have ended 2-1 to England in 90 mins
Seems like a few frames missing. I couldnt see if th ball landed behend the line or on it; the only thing that matters, is that it was given as a goal.
We still scored 3 good goals. And there were claims of handball from one of the German goals, which I think came from a free kick that should not havd been awarded. So 3-1. I'll settle with that.
@@maxpathan7927 If you went through the history of the world cup, and looked for goals that should or shouldn't have been given, you would have to change a lot of history. England won the world cup, just look it up. We even beat the team of the tournament, Portugal.
It crossed the line as the goal was allowed .... finish and period. Just as the German 2nd goal was scored even though there was a clear handball ..... better than VAR anyday!!!!
It doesn't work like that. When you play extra time and is 2-2 you don't have to take a big risk and attack harder which makes your defence weaker and more likely to concede another goal. When is 2-3 already you have to that. This is one of examples. We also can talk about psychical effects of losing goal in that situation what lower morale for sure. So that's very stupid theory and far away from sport reality....
Not a goal, imo. The closest I could make out perhaps, is the ball bouncing on the line, ricoheting off the bar (or the other way round) and then bouncing out. The ball doesn't fully cross the line.
I also thought of this back in 2010. In 1966 I was only 5 years old and did not watch the match (I was not very much interested in football back then), but later, when I became a football fan and watched documentaries and listened to the accounts of those who had active fans by 1966, I had an impression that the goal acknowledged by the refs was at least suspicious.
it is super clear that it didn’t cross any line. with goal line technology today, there more much worse cases that you are sure it went it just to find out that the reality it is no goal. England was lucky to get the goal
@@tommaguzzi1723 Why did England deserve bad karma? It was the linesman who gave the goal. Besides, Hurst scored another legit goal with the last kick of the game. People like the German in the OP will argue what may have happened had the third been disallowed, well it works both ways doesn't it? England won the World Cup in '66, deal with it.
in all footage I've seen on this, the ball is mostly over the line. Whether entirely ove the line is the controversy. This vid shows the ball almost entirely forward of the line such that I question its authenticity.
@ nwaleed 01 Nonsense, it is super clear the bounce is invisible, behind the line with vicious backspin reappearing without any repainted line disturbance. The angle behind the line is as bad as the angles Infront of the line for a clear judgement.
I think it was Hunts reaction, by not going for the ball, is what made the ref and linesman think that it must have crossed the line, otherwise he would have gone for it. So, well done Roger.
Until you actually look at the facts and discover that on the four occasions England have played Germany in competitive matches this century, England have won 3 and Germany 1.
You think its work like that? Bullshit. How do you know there would be 4th goal without 3rd? Theres 2-2 in extra time so you don't have to attack with more players and take a risk to concede a goal. When you are losing 2-3 situation is totally different. That's first thing. Another one is lower morale after losing a goal. That's far away from reality what you've said and I've heard many times before.
Hard to tell where the ball is after it hit the underside of the bar, though it looks like the ball was not completely over the line when it landed on the ground. But the officials said it was a goal, so case closed.
Flippin' 58 years ago, anyone still trying to prove/say that it was/wasn't a goal, get over it, there are worse things in football like diving and getting players sent off and match fixing.
@maconescotland8996 The Germans are not fixated with it, they have 4 world cups so have no need to be but Scotland, well they were not even good enough to qualify.
@maconescotland8996 Yes, you failed to put more than 2 past Zaire and failed to get anything against Cuba and just a point v lran. Very embarrassing. 😅🤣😂
@@user-qt3dg3qn6x Oh dear !!! Hardly embarrassing as it would be difficult to get a result against Cuba - seeing as they last played in the World Cup 1938 and it wasn't against Scotland.😂
It was Alan Ball who passed the ball to Hurst. The above was George Cohen, so the wrong piece of film. But we scored in the last second for 3-2, so it doesn't matter anyway. The ball was over the line by at least two feet. It was a goal and England won. Get over it.
If that's the case then almost every WC is fake and has been won by default... Take a look at the history of the WC. It's always been shockingly corrupt
NO GOAL.. MY SINCERE COMPASSION FOR GERMANS NATION.
Modern studies using film analysis and computer simulation have shown that the whole ball never crossed the line - only 50% did. Both Duncan Gillies of the Visual Information Processing Group at Imperial College London and Ian Reid and Andrew Zisserman of the Department of Engineering Science at University of Oxford have stated that the ball would have needed to travel a further 18±4 cm to fully cross the line.
Gillies and Reid are surnames originating from Scotland. Zisserman sounds rather German....😂😂😂
Will your next video be about Frank Lampard’s shot against the Germans which went about a foot over the goal line but wasn’t allowed ? Or will you just accept what most people with common sense have accepted, that you get some decisions and don’t get others ?
@@apb3440 exactly
Most people with common sense don't argue with the truth
Emotive rubbish. My sincerest apologies to the gullible of this post.
The angle of perspective is more than other camera angles. It doesn't matter how close it is if the frame didn't show the impact of the bounce beyond the line. Where is the splattered paint on a boiling hot day? It was repainted at full time.,and this was ten minutes in. The official was right.being a better angle of perspective than any camera.
No need to grovel to impassioned objectors. Shame, even if 1 cm of curvature would be measure by a modern VAR..
You win some, you lose some. We suffered the hand of God goal from Maradona, and Lampards clear goal disallowed in SA world cup 2010.
Exactly.
I'm old enough to remember both matches.
Absolutely not a slightly miniscule pale chanche in hell, earth, heaven or purgatory, for England to win any of these 2 matches, even with different referees decisions.
@asevado I'm not saying England would have won those matches, I'm talking about refereeing decisions where clear goals have been disallowed. That's what I was referring to when I said you win some, you lose some.
And you moaned like fuck about it.
Yes exactly , we were cheated out of potentially winning the world cup for the second time many times 🤔🤫
Brilliant Goal!
Everybody knows the ball was never over the line, Russian linesman hated the Krauts .
He wasn't Russian, he was from Azerbaijan (Soviet) & he admitted what he did, at a later stage.
Since infinite universes exist, there is a very high probability that the ball went over the line in millions of these parellel universes.
Not in ours, though.
As a boomer I played this at 0,25, and I liked how the ball dissapeared in spacetime and reappeared just when I had forgotten about it.
The first 13 seconds are of a different part of the match...the cross for Hurst's "goal" was supplied by Alan Ball, not George Cohen.
Where did Cohen mysteriously appear from to cross the ball ?
I doubt he was even in the German half !!!
@@maconescotland8996 My thoughts exactly! Had to go and rewatch the original clip to make sure I was neither going mad nor was it one of the most profound 'Mandela effects' of all time!
Even the super-slow replay didn't make it go in. Oh bother!
Always known for 58 years that the ball didn’t cross the line. For the next so called goal, the Ref should have stopped play due to crowd invasion. Alba’67
The Russian linesman said it was over. Also he allegedly told the Germans “That’s for Starlingrad”😂
The biggest fallacy in the history of football is that the linesman was from Russia! He was from Azerbaijan.
@@johnmanning5568 it was not fallacy because the dominant nation in Soviet Union were russians, and Azerbaijan was not independent since it was part of Soviet Union
@@Masda.X I agree that the dominant nation was Russia but the linesman wasn’t born and didn’t live in that country. He was born and lived in Azerbaijan, which was, as you say, part of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Azerbaijan was incorporated into the USSR in 1920 and was officially named as the Azerbaijani Soviet Socialist Republic. The country of Azerbaijan didn’t cease to exist. He was an Azerbaijani citizen who was part of the USSR. The linesman in 1966 was not a Russian citizen, he was an Azerbaijani citizen. The country of Azerbaijan still existed even though it wasn’t an independent state. A citizen of that proud nation would NEVER say that he was a Russian citizen.
@@johnmanning5568 It would be absurd if he said he is russian citizen because it does not make sense, during that era all Soviet people always proudly said they were citizen of Soviet Union. there were no nationalism in SSR, but socialism/communism. Why any would say that ? Only after the collapse of SSR, people started to emphasize the nationality of major figures more and more ...
Look at Roger Hunt's reaction he's in no doubt and doesn't even attempt to play a ball that should have been begging to be knocked over the line.
It's a goal.
First and only 2 goal hattrick in a world cup final
Em 1966, a regra era diferente. A bola precisava passar só 51% da linha. Beckenbauer deu uma entrevista no Brasil ( Programa Jo Soares) falando que a Inglaterra mereceu vencer aquela Copa do Mundo.
Great goal! Off balance with the ball bouncing away from him... brilliant technique.
Yeah he was off balance because his first touch was awful - then he scooped the shot. No goal. We were lucky.
@@longjon120We weren’t lucky we were the better team throughout the tournament and in the final.
Correct. 100 %
@@longjon120Was going to say exactly that. Poor first touch. The defender allowed him so much room too. Ball was never over the line .
Yes lucky
Sometimes the linesman/ref get it wrong - still better than VAR.
it's just a game, lighten up! (Lights blue touchpaper and stands well back)
Apparently West Germany’s equaliser to make it 2-2 there was a hand ball in the build up by a German player so it evened out , so the game should have finished 2-1 to England 🏴 ⚽️✌️
Should not have been playing extra time anyway ... The German equalizer came from a free kick that was given the wrong way, it was the England player who was fouled and not the German ... so this put things right again ... game should have ended 2-1 to England in 90 mins
I've always maintained that point when away claims the match was fixed
Seems like a few frames missing. I couldnt see if th ball landed behend the line or on it; the only thing that matters, is that it was given as a goal.
what do you wish for christmas?
When Hurst hit it watching it live I knew it wasn't a goal in 1966
proving or disproving it changes nothing now
We still scored 3 good goals. And there were claims of handball from one of the German goals, which I think came from a free kick that should not havd been awarded.
So 3-1. I'll settle with that.
The last goal wasnt valid because there were supporters on the pitch.
England have NEVER won the world cup. it was given
@@maxpathan7927 If you went through the history of the world cup, and looked for goals that should or shouldn't have been given, you would have to change a lot of history. England won the world cup, just look it up. We even beat the team of the tournament, Portugal.
@@paulmann9154
True, but so many bad calls, all in the favour of the home team. Bit dodgy
@@maxpathan7927 One bad call. The 4th goal, a few people came onto the pitch, but as I was once told by a referee: you play to the whistle.
You talk out of your...
Thank goodness they didnt have VAR.
The ball ⚽️ was at least a metre over the line. This old footage doesn’t do it justice.
Didn't even reach the line 😂
Maradona in 86, lampard in 2010. We won on that day, goal or not.
poor respond
Looks like a couple of frames missing between 36 - 38 seconds?🤔
would have needed a replay if it finished 2-2 no penalty shoot out would jimmy greaves iff fit got the nod ?
It crossed the line as the goal was allowed .... finish and period. Just as the German 2nd goal was scored even though there was a clear handball ..... better than VAR anyday!!!!
When you win by two goals, taking 1 goal away means you still won.
It doesn't work like that.
When you play extra time and is 2-2 you don't have to take a big risk and attack harder which makes your defence weaker and more likely to concede another goal.
When is 2-3 already you have to that.
This is one of examples.
We also can talk about psychical effects of losing goal in that situation what lower morale for sure.
So that's very stupid theory and far away from sport reality....
@@matthiasdominik4049As if they wouldn't attack for the winner anyway and lose to the counterattack.
Sour grapes.
We know it was a refereeing mistake, didn't cross the line but the goal was given so it stands. Why are we still going over the same old stuff.
Because it wasn't a goal !
@@williamcaldwell-smith3865 but it was, check the score....
Not a goal, imo. The closest I could make out perhaps, is the ball bouncing on the line, ricoheting off the bar (or the other way round) and then bouncing out. The ball doesn't fully cross the line.
Probably a 1/4 over
The ball wasn’t fully across the line. We (England) got a huge break there.
Huge
Och Aye karma was served in 2010! The look on Lampard's face was PRICELESS!
Yea need to move on just like wee 'ave from 1314...
I also thought of this back in 2010. In 1966 I was only 5 years old and did not watch the match (I was not very much interested in football back then), but later, when I became a football fan and watched documentaries and listened to the accounts of those who had active fans by 1966, I had an impression that the goal acknowledged by the refs was at least suspicious.
LOL but Lampards was over the line by a kilometer. karma never misses.
@@df289 Karma never misses? Karma misses at least half the time! Bad things happen to good people and vice versa.
Och aye the jocks have totally moved on haven't they 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We don't need to move on, Jock. We won!
it is super clear that it didn’t cross any line. with goal line technology today, there more much worse cases that you are sure it went it just to find out that the reality it is no goal. England was lucky to get the goal
You can't even string a sentence together
Calm down Waleed. 😂
No it was a goal and a deserved win for England.
No it wasn't !
@@williamcaldwell-smith3865 fully deserved win for England no doubt about it.
Das Tor brach die Moral der bundesdeutschen Nationalelf. Was, wäre, wenn ohne das Geister-Tor geschehen?
England might have scored even more. Deal with it.
Surprised you didn't blame the Russian linesman (don't mention the war) okay i won't haha....
Karma returned the favour with Frank Lampard's 2010 goal not given in world Cup quarter final.
@@tommaguzzi1723 Why did England deserve bad karma? It was the linesman who gave the goal. Besides, Hurst scored another legit goal with the last kick of the game. People like the German in the OP will argue what may have happened had the third been disallowed, well it works both ways doesn't it? England won the World Cup in '66, deal with it.
Aber meine Deutscher freund, Deutschland gewann 1970, 1972 und in den nachsten 30 jahren jedes pflichtspiel gegen England.
in all footage I've seen on this, the ball is mostly over the line. Whether entirely ove the line is the controversy. This vid shows the ball almost entirely forward of the line such that I question its authenticity.
But was it over the line in flight - mid-air ?
Doubtful at that speed and short distance
Terrible first touch
Clearly no goal but VAR would give it these days😂
if its not a clear goal youve got to give it to the oppsite side very bad decision
Clearly over the line…3-2
Not a goal and I am not at all biased (from jocko macsporran and my partner Frau Shickelgruber who thinks the same! )
- did you see that - foot like traction engine ..
It was a more non-goal than Lampard's goal a goal
@ nwaleed 01 Nonsense, it is super clear the bounce is invisible, behind the line with vicious backspin reappearing without any repainted line disturbance. The angle behind the line is as bad as the angles Infront of the line for a clear judgement.
It didnt
But it was still 3-2
Irrelevant. If Hurst’s goal hadn’t been given then Germany wouldn’t have played with eleven men in the English half!
1967
Theres your consolation 😉
And decades of so called ‘top flight football’ in the Premiership contest between 2 teams
Is it possible that Maradona's "Hand of God" is a kind of Divine justice⁉🤨🤔🙄
No, Maradona knowingly cheated, that's not justice.
@@StonyStevenson75 That's right! Maybe it was the Devil's revenge😈⚽🖐🤔
Even now when I watch it and see and hear the reaction it still cracks me up. It was brilliant.😂
We still would have won 3-2!
There's many to slip between the cup and the lip, you know 🤗
Ohne zweifel, das war ein Tor!
Ohne Zweifel war der Ball nicht mit vollen Umfang über die Linie
I think it was Hunts reaction, by not going for the ball, is what made the ref and linesman think that it must have crossed the line, otherwise he would have gone for it.
So, well done Roger.
It was never a goal,but the German teams have several revenge moments since! Neither can we cry over spilt milk,yes it's all over now!!!
It was a goal. The ref said so.
Exactly!!
Not a goal Even 58 years later.😮
Terrific goal. Well done lad
out of 81010101029829200 people only 6k saw this video in 6 years and I see a comment of 2 hours ago
Clearly way over the line.
The Scottish commentary for the final clearly states the English cheated. The ball was not over the line.
Och aye, the nu! Those thieving sasanachs.
You believe a Scottish comment about an England goal???
LOL I see what you did there
We’ll never hear the end of it.
England didn't cheat the linesman confirmed it's a goal.
Move on FFS! The decision will not be changed
Y después dicen de diego que fue un robo 😂😂😂😂el gol con la mano 🤚
Of course, it wasnt a goal...
Yeah it WAS!...WE WON 4-2....😂🤣
It crossed the line
....a clear 6 inches over the line!...
a yard over
definitely no goal ball never crossed the line
Irrelevant, Germany never scored again
But what happend next after this game..? Germany beats England in just every match till this time..time was and is the best referee, the best judge...
Until you actually look at the facts and discover that on the four occasions England have played Germany in competitive matches this century, England have won 3 and Germany 1.
We one 4-2 , were is the problem ?
You think its work like that?
Bullshit.
How do you know there would be 4th goal without 3rd?
Theres 2-2 in extra time so you don't have to attack with more players and take a risk to concede a goal.
When you are losing 2-3 situation is totally different.
That's first thing.
Another one is lower morale after losing a goal.
That's far away from reality what you've said and I've heard many times before.
Listen my friend, I played semi pro football for many years so do not preach to me about IFS buts and maybe s, 4- 2 end of.
Hard to tell where the ball is after it hit the underside of the bar, though it looks like the ball was not completely over the line when it landed on the ground. But the officials said it was a goal, so case closed.
Flippin' 58 years ago, anyone still trying to prove/say that it was/wasn't a goal, get over it, there are worse things in football like diving and getting players sent off and match fixing.
Not if you are a German - or a Scot !!! 😂
If only VAR had been in use back then !!!
@maconescotland8996 The Germans are not fixated with it, they have 4 world cups so have no need to be but Scotland, well they were not even good enough to qualify.
@@user-qt3dg3qn6x England only qualified as hosts, then again in 1970 as holders - we all know what happened in 1974 and 1978. 🤣
@maconescotland8996 Yes, you failed to put more than 2 past Zaire and failed to get anything against Cuba and just a point v lran. Very embarrassing. 😅🤣😂
@@user-qt3dg3qn6x Oh dear !!! Hardly embarrassing as
it would be difficult to get a result against Cuba - seeing as they last played in the World Cup 1938 and it wasn't against Scotland.😂
plenty of videos out there showing the ball over the line. top spin from hitting bar made it spin back out
Show us one.
It’s been sixty damn years and your’e still not over it. Get a life.
Cheating huns 🍀🏴😡🍀
Wurst
There's a different camera angle that clearly shows the ball over the line
The goal stood. England won....so who cares???
Who gives a sh.t.about the goal.
England won .
End of cant change it now😊😊😊
Well over the line. Goal.
No goal. Sorry Germany.
Well done linesman, he would have seen the effect of the paint.
It doesn't matter Scotland beat England the following year making Scotland unofficial World cup winners.
Not a goal
Inglaterra e Argentina deveriam envergonhar-se de terem obtido títulos mundiais de futebol com um gol inexistente e um feito a mão...
It was well over
It was a goal.
Sincerely, I cannot say for certain. I am glad England has won, but still I am not sure.
Sky Sports analysed this in 2016 and it was proven the goal did cross the line
well over the line. 😉
It was Alan Ball who passed the ball to Hurst. The above was George Cohen, so the wrong piece of film. But we scored in the last second for 3-2, so it doesn't matter anyway. The ball was over the line by at least two feet. It was a goal and England won. Get over it.
Roger Hunt always maintained he didn’t head it in because he was sure it was a goal….
Clearly over the line.
I’ve never understood the whohah about this. If England had won 3-2 it’s a talking point. England won 4-2 so get over it!
No goal!
No goal, WC won by default! Fake !
If that's the case then almost every WC is fake and has been won by default... Take a look at the history of the WC. It's always been shockingly corrupt
It crossed the line