Lumix S9 : The Odd State of Camera Reviews
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Hey Creative Fam!
I’m thrilled to announce that in our next live stream, we’ll be joined by the one and only Gerald Undone! 🎉
We’ll dive into an in-depth discussion about the highly anticipated Lumix S9 camera, exploring its features, performance, and what makes it a game-changer for content creators.
But that’s not all! We’ll also tackle the hot topic of working with brands as CZcamsrs. We’ll share our experiences, insights, and the challenges of maintaining authenticity while doing paid reviews.
What to Expect:
• First impressions and hands-on review of the Lumix S9
• The dos and don’ts of brand collaborations
• Navigating the ethics of sponsored content
• Q&A session: Your chance to ask us anything!
Mark your calendars, set your reminders, and join the conversation! Whether you’re a seasoned creator or just starting out, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.
Chapters
0:00 Countdown Timer
5:20 Show Begins
17:30 Gerald Undone's Interview - Launch of S9 is Interesting
22:45 How Does Gerald Stay Unbiased w Brands
29:54 How Gerald Decides What NOT to Review
32:50 Gerald's Thoughts on the S9 Launch
47:26 The Reason Behind Gerald's Studio Tours
56:13 Should You Receive Monetary Value for Reviews
1:04:22 Should You Review Gear if You're Not Using it on Set?
1:13:45 David Altizer's Interview - Perspective From Japan Trip
1:24:55 Does the Cost of the Product Influence Reviews?
1:30:38 The S9 Was Not the Camera That Was Planned
1:39:24 Michael Tobin on the Blackmagic 6K Now Also $1500 - Zábava
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Gerald is one of my fav CZcamsrs and integrity amongst the highest. I just wish he would have waited until long after the Panny event ended and avoided the piling on that all the others are doing for views. Panasonic is one of the best vendors, supporting their cameras for years, constant updates, etc. I still think all of you wouldn;t have done this after a Sony or Canon event for fear of alientating those vendors.
100%
The reviews are based and the most critical I've ever seen. Gerald is not hiding his cringy, petty anger. He wouldn't do this if Lumix offered him a trip.
Brands need CZcamsrs not the other way around. Brands that want to cut corners will seek out CZcamsrs that don’t have a standard. When I want to know something about cameras I’ll go to Gerald Undone because he’s the standard. Once he start not giving the facts about cameras his viewers will notice that immediately, and he know that will be a bad day for his channel.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Without brands, CZcamsrs don’t exist…just saying. CZcams isn’t the only way to market something.
@@JasonOverHere This.lol
@@JasonOverHere The problem exists first, not the solution. Brands create the solutions to the consumer's problems. So by this logic, the reviewer should be working for the consumer, not the brand because the consumer should be in the driver's seat.
@@raredreamfootage That is the theory, but in reality there’s a third party: the reviewer themselves.
They work to better their own situation, skating a line between consumer and brand which has historically not been transparent. That leads to consumers buying products they otherwise would not, or not buying products actually suitable.
I haven’t decided yet - mostly because I don’t know him personally - whether Gerald is trying to address that issue, or if the appearance of transparency is mostly beneficial to his own brand.
I think the role of reviewers is to give opinion on what the "target customers" the product is aimed for, not what they, as reviewers, personally like or not.
Only and very few reviewers have that mindset.
When "professional" photographers or video graphers gave trash review on the beginner product why it doesn't have pro mic support or have this pro flash syn or this and that, I think they miss the point.
I saw one S9 reviewer read through the spec sheet, saw one card slot and video limit, he knew exactly what this camera is made for. Not for them, but for the target audience it aims at.
Exactly, problem is that this reviewers uses their personal uses to review the camera without asking to whom the camera is build for.
It’s a hard one. Some people want to see it from the perspective of the CZcamsr while others from where a product has been positioned.
I’ve included a section in my reviews now which is ‘who I think this is for’ and ‘who is this not for’ I hope that acts as a way to balance.
@@JonathanPalfrey You should always take into consideration which users the brand is targetting their products.
If LUMIX is thinking in this way they shouldn’t invite any CZcamsr and make it such a BIG thing to the mass audience
Reviewers helps you with informed decisions while content creators are more like hype machines.
Well said
At the end of the day, the consumer is in control. We decide who sinks or swims.
Panasonic says the camera is for beginner photographers. My niece just bought a Fujifilm 100vi. It's her first camera and she would probably be the person this camera is for.
Excactly! And in that price bracket, the S9 is a much more versatile than the Fuji 100 VI, it can be criticized and compared on that segment. Which all too often pro-tubers forget. The whole drama that unfolded was a bit silly. Panasonic knows certain type of reviewer will pile on the camera and vetted the early access to a certain segment/profile.... and we are supposed to be outraged? It's marketing. They are called influencers for a reason.
Panasonic gave me a free trip and free camera but they did not tell me I can’t say anything negative so here is my totally unbiased review 😂😂😂
riiiiiiiight?!
..... but you feel you owe them something ..... Marketing teams hire top Psychologists .....
If Panasonic didn’t invite Sony shooters, only invited existing lumix no one would be saying anything about it. Ultimately this “drama” with brands is giving more exposure to the camera. Great move by Panasonic
The question we should ask is why now this controversy? If Panasonic said this camera is not for you and will not invite you why you are mad. The problem is that all this You Tube reviewers are basing their business on reviewing cameras.
@@angeloplayforone that is true about any category where creator “review” anything, not just cameras. And it’s been that way for over a decade, nothing new, just Sony fanboys being butthurt Panasonic started doing what Sony has been doing for years
Yeah I just found out about this camera today and this drama is hilarious. It will not replace my 1dx mark III,medium format bodies etc.. this will replace my iPhone for day to day carry around all the time camera. Full frame,small body, smart software workflow. I am sold and placed an order. I should make a video on the s9. “Old salty ass photographer with decades of experience thoughts/field review on the S9” 😂
I don’t understand the hate, with the popularity of Fuji X100 Lumix’s made a small travel camera with addition of film luts, plus is full frame and can shoot great video? This is not a work camera this is a lifestyle camera.
People seem to hate because they expected more than just a compact camera. Had Lumix invested time also innovating in terms of adding more lenses, new version of their existing lineup, that would have given some hope to existing users that they are in a stable growing ecosystem. The buildup was so high but the presenters themselves had nothing to say about S9 except the LUT and the app. It was such a deflated announcement.
@@Terry-yz6kjYeah, but this isn’t the only new camera coming out as there was mention of a few new cameras coming soon. Plus it sounds like they pivoted a bit and maybe didn’t have the new higher end camera ready in time so it’s more of a marketing error on Lumix’s side.
I couldn’t agree more! It’s a bit baffling seeing the “confusion” mentioned by some reviewers. It mostly comes across as arrogance on their part, or as an attempt to punish Panasonic.
the price is not for the lifestyle camera 🙄🙄
@@sourapyeYou mean like the Fuji x100v or the Sony ZV-E1?
a lot of creators say "then it's not for you", "trust in lumix their marketing data can't be wrong", "i asked my wife/trainer/friend who's a beginner if they needed an EVF" but did you ask them if they would buy them at 1.5k? lol
only way to know is in a few months if the preorders or sales are going to do good or not. personally? it's gonna flop hard
Bros, are you influencers or creatives, you can be both. You can’t be bi in your profession, otherwise you not a professional. Sheesh. Dorks cryin’ about dorky things.
Gerald's excessive reverb at the beginning was so trippy! A real good interview! And nice to know that even seasoned pros can sometimes have a glitch. As for the S9, a really interesting camera but one that I don't see myself purchasing. Already have an S5 and an S5II.
1:22:18 David hits the nail on the head. They invited pro video/photo CZcamsrs, whose subscribers are at least somewhat serious about video/photo. So, of course they’re going to have a hard time selling this camera in that space. Now for me the issue is when they pivot and start telling their audience that they don’t understand it and the camera isn’t for them, and if they don’t like it don’t watch. It’s the energy change that’s kind of exposed them.
It’s utter nonsense to think that if you don’t take free trips you can’t review a camera.
1. They can mail it.
2. You can wait till it comes out and ask to borrow it from a camera store
Otherwise the perks will directly or subconsciously affect your videos. Stop the convoluted convos and defenses.
You’re human commercials and ads. It’s all good. Just be honest.
One of the creators said "we are the link between you and the brand". How arrogant. Like you said they can loan the camera from the store etc.
So many of these discussions are kinda bonkers. Acknowledging who this camera is for, vloggers and influencers, and then saying the black magic cinema camera is a similar price is just a nonsense comparison.
The simply does not get the notion of different audience and use.
40:00 I'm surprised that despite TikTok's popularity, this camera seems so confusing. Given how popular the higher-priced Fuji X100VI is, even with its Super 35 sensor, this confusion is even more surprising. The X100VI is so in demand that it still has backorders from the first day of release. Considering this, it's puzzling why Lumix wouldn't want to capitalize on this trend. The professional features of the Lumix S9 serve as a gateway to a broader ecosystem for aspiring filmmakers. Simply put, these features prepare users for future upgrades. People always want bigger and better, so it's inevitable that once they’re in the ecosystem, they'll eventually gravitate towards a pro-level device. Lumix took Fuji Life style approach, with their indie film life and made a 2024 version of how Sony took audiences. let them live so that they can eventually get ahead.
Lumix ecosystem? An ecosystem is not about of a bunch of cameras. It should consist of lens options, accessory options. I don't see many accessory makers focus on lumix. Lumix seems to care less. They took 1 year to release s9 and ignored the existing lineup. They will spend another year or so fixing all problems in S9. You can't build an ecosystem with that approach.
@@Terry-yz6kj Who said that? Did you read it? I don’t even want to explain the ecosystem, but as a taster, that app would be a starting base because most manufacturers don’t have such good applications. Sigma, Leica, and Lumix form the L-mount alliance, with Lumix developing the best technology to create lenses at a lower price. They have effectively built small lenses and pancake lenses with integrated IBIS and added phase detection AF, transferable to the FF system. Their frame IO integration and color science rival the best. Their codecs have been the least boggling, finding the best balance in cameras for use from a professional level to everyday carry. They even created a new light version of MP4 that maintains quality and can be easily uploaded to social media.
My whole point is discussing the future of their ecosystem and building an audience for it. Forgive me, I am a Brand strategist. People love entry-level options but tend to pay more for premium products, like what Apple does. I can keep going, breaking things down. They haven’t even released the S1H Mark II and the S1R Mark II. Do you understand this is a pivotal time? I don’t think you read what I said. You may be a a lumix user, but you sound like you don’t use the cameras at all lol. Also, are you aware that they have the patent for ND filters in mirror cameras? Are you aware that they pretty much were the foundation for mirrorless cameras as a whole.( Lumix and Olympus )the XLR adapter that you see Sony have there’s so many things that have been copycatted, but people have been so use to, following Sony that they ignored all the outstanding features that Lumix has from auto focus so this is the pivotal time and all of those robust features that can be blended from a low level to more of a pro level are gonna be at the hands of many, so I don’t really have anything else to say. That’s a small percent! You’re definitely personal plays checkers not really chess because I have predicted every single move. They have made and I know where they’re going within a year or two from now they actually respectfully took time to get their operations together and entice people specific way and you can’t see it, also last thing lens system is probably one of the biggest systems out there when it comes to lens so we don’t even have to get into the S series but yeah I’m not gonna get into this.
@@Terry-yz6kj What problems do they need to fix on the S9? It’s pretty much the exact camera for its intended market and if anything will get some added features in a firmware update asap. Probably the record limit will change or go away since people have already proved it doesn’t overheat and lumix is super stringent on their tests. There actually is an eco system even if that’s not something you use or care about. The new adoption of LUT’s and the ability to grade on the fly on your phone is useful to a lot of people.
@@phoenixprjctI care everything about Lumix because I made an investment in Lumix S5IIX and it's not easy for me to switch camera brand. Whether I like it or not, I am forced to stay with it for some time. I am sure I am not alone in that category. I don't know which ecosystem you are talking about - if it's just a few cameras, I don't know about that. My experience says the flexibility that the current ecosystem offers is very limited.
The most interesting thing about this video is the mention of it not being the intended camera. It makes sense. Was this supposed to be the S1Hii or whatever it'll be called? The fact that the second actually usable small zoom wasn't ready also seems to back this up that it was probably intended to come later.
It was probably a filmmaker body, GH7 or S1 mk II type. There was quite a few rumours about a possible GH7 this winter, but it all disappeared... Recall that the P2303 registration from China was done way back in late september 2023! Even if the P2303A was/is the G9 it seems very delayed. Basically 8 months in! Which I think in honestly it is not as the S9 is only a slimmed down S5M2 which really should not result in such major challenges during development. That's probably why it was rushed in the last minute without the new zoom lens.
An abundance of camera products and a high standard of technical innovation has been achieved.
When this happens, manufacturers try to sell gadgets as innovative and reviewers often support it.
When TV panel technology was perfected, there were curved TVs and they disappeared shortly after. Because they were garbage.
The S9 and stuff like the insta360 are like curved TVs.
If camera reviewers are reviewing every piece of garbage with a sensor in it and hyping it up, that is not trudtworthy. It is not about the camera with this topic, it is about observing the CZcamsrs' lack of sensitivity in the face of materialistic abundance.
Most of the backlash to the S9 reviews would be eliminated if all the reviewers declared the video sponsored content like Geeky Nerdy Techy did.
He said that, but I haven't seen blue indicator at the beginning of the video when I watched it originally.
This rollout definitely changed the way I see some creators I follow… seeing them fawn over a camera that clearly isn’t one they would normally care about (ex: filmmakers who can find fault with cinema cameras and lenses that are miles ahead of the s9 are suddenly like, “this is the perfect camera, I love only being able to record 10 minutes at a time, I love rolling shutter, and who needs a lens faster than f8?”)
It’s like… one trip to Japan and you no longer have any standards eh?
Yeah that has become a thing right? That's on those You Tubers though and not right for GU to call them out.
i think it's important to also note the intention for each product and the cost.
it makes sense to be really critical about cinema grade gear because those are critical pieces of gear, and are extremely expensive.
and it's also alright to be lenient of casual consumer products because that's the promise; casual and fun.
we all have that crappy piece of gear we love, and hate the expensive professional work thing cause for the price it costs, sometimes it just doesn't work. hahaha
@@nickalot at this price point you can get a brand new Blackmagic Design Cinema Camera 6K from B&H
@@nickalot I would argue the ZVE1 got a lot of heat initially from the content creators for overheating despite it catering to the same crowd as the S9. But we can see now that it is vastly superior so it's hard to show leniency to cameras like the S9
@@Chow0012 yeah that's true! but the zve1 is so much more expensive XP But in any case, i think it's good to point out all the short comings of a camera, but sometimes i feel like all these reviews tend to compared every product to the standard of a different product line.
i do wish the s9 was 1299 tho would be so much more appealing. i kinda dig a pretty looking stripped down full frame camera.zve1 still got that... engineering vibes haha. totally useless and subjective opinion tho XD
idk man. still tho, i always appreciate honest opinions over the herd mentality that everything is a systemic issue
I’ve never understood the argument that you have to work on set to review a camera. It’s like asking a movie reviewer needs experience being a Hollywood director to have valid opinions on a film.
It's a tool. People and intelligent pros want to know how it works in everyday situations. If you just perform generic tests you are basically just trying to prove is specs are real not if it is actually good for real world use.
Nice talk! The funny thing is that around 40:00 Gerald was selling the idea of the S9 pretty well with his description of it like open gate and handling both horizontal/vertical plus Lumix being more stringent than other manufacturers with recording length expectations, lol.
David had a lot of interesting insights and things to consider with his access to the embargo video space. Very cool!
(The Nikon Z30 I have being marketed as a 4k camera but shuts down after ~35 minutes regardless of if it is doing an internal recording or simply outputting HDM. Things like this are important considerations that marketing at these camera companies try to gloss over.)
I just bought the s5ii you mentioned on eBay! Thanks 😀
let's go!!! great deal! LOL
Red and Blackmagic shooter here.. I don’t know if it’s just me.. but it does kinda seem like a camera company or someone paid CZcamsrs to trash the LUMIX S9 during its promo. People have been payed for favorable camera reviews for YEARS and YEARS, but randomly only now all of a sudden prominent CZcamsrs started trashing 1 camera simultaneously like clockwork lol. And this show going out of it’s way, even altering it’s normal format to trash the S9.. kinda random.. or seems like pretty a calculated synchronized move to me. Is this the new way to compete in this space? 😂😅
In all fairness, I don’t think it’s that deep. For the most part the CZcamsrs chosen to push the s9, the majority of their subscribers are people who’ll watch an hour long video just on camera specs. Their viewers are simply the wrong audience.
Yeah the negative drama is weird. A Black Magic Cinema camera is a different tool You can buy a hammer for 5 bucks but a screwdriver also sells for 5 bucks but both serve different needs. For me S9 fits the bill, always wanted a tiny fun fullframe I can just take with me everywhere. X100VI is crop APS-C sensor with a fixed 35mm focal length lens. S9 has a proper full 35mm frame, and you have the flexibility of mounting different lenses including even M series lenses with an adapter.
Sometimes I feel the discourse around this camera is disingenuous.
How can a professional have such a ridiculously hard time finding the benefits of this camera?
-It's small + full frame + AF + industry-leading IBIS
-It has a fully-fledged internal LUT system
-It has a companion app for instant transfer, edit, and share
-Open gate/anamorphic desqueeze/lite codecs
How can anyone look at that and go, "OH MY GOSH... WHAT'S THE POINT? SO CONFUSED! WHO WANTS THIS?" 🤨
You know how many people would love to have a camera that allows for a faster delivery workflow with top
of the line quality for that price?
I hope this little shit camera sells out and leaves everyone dumbfounded.😂
Because it's also missing a bunch of stuff that negates all those features and makes it shit. It reeks of a desperate money grab with zero innovation.
@@neonserf150 Next time try to back up your opinion with logical points and examples. If there's something shit in here...is most def. your answer.
It's kinda funny how disconnected YTbers are, especially US ones. This camera is $1900 in my country. It's ~25% more that median monthly wage here. Get this into perspective.
I do not care this camera is "fun" to you. It's too expensive for this small bit of fun .....
Yeah like it's a great second camera to the $7,000 gear they already own.
Gerald has done exactly what he intended to do. All you need to do is look at the idiotic comments about the S9 from people that haven't used the camera and who its clearly not targeted at.
Lumix called him and explain to him that this camera is not indended for him and he will no like it so he is not invited. Then he said after hearing about this camera from Lumix, that he does not like it. So the marketing of Lumix is very aware of which is the target audience.
Always a pleasure to listen to you wise gentlemen.
I have a suggestion: how about you get a few influencers and even camera designers (if you can find them) together and define or redefine the segments of the camera market that you would like to see in the future?
I think a lot of the criticism about the S9 is directed at the camera not aligning with the expected market segment that enthusiasts, pros and influencers has expected or hoped the camera would fall within.
Loved the live troubleshoot.😂 Makes me like Gerald even more.
The question is one of value and target market. Anything is amazing at the right price.
Thanks for having me on! Tried to be honest. Overall, the S9 is a fun camera for some people. I happen to be a person who likes it if I had the luxury to afford it. With a set of good Sigma mini primes this camera gets a bit too close to the price of many other options out there that may have better/worse features so you just have to use your own judgement/maturity to decide if it’s right for you.
For a full time TikTok instagram influencer, this thing would be perfect. Pretty sure nobody here is that person.
For me, a dad who likes taking pictures of the kids, i like this thing for that purpose, but maybe a Ricoh GR III is a better, cheaper, more practical option.
Idk. have so many thoughts on this thing. honestly is fun to think it all through.
So you are still spinning this camera as having value as a social media camera? That goes for every other camera from other brands. This is what people have an issue with. You are justing spinning the press release that Panasonic gave you.
@@contentm3893 yeah exactly. that's who the camera is for primarily. they invited a bunch of filmmakers to look at a tiktok camera. that's the disconnect i talked about in my interview with Brandon here. turns out its a fun camera once you use it. but it's too expensive for just a "fun camera" IMO at the moment
People are so mysteriously heated over what it doesn’t do and don’t see it for what features it has. I also started out on the T2i and 5Dmk2 setup for events and run and gun stuff and remember time limits on 1080p LOL. I just sold my LUMIX GX85 and this is actually a pretty solid replacement for that m43 pocket/action/street/C-cam. Pocket 4k stabilized anamorphic for $1500? A sweet backup camera which matches my S5iix perfectly in a pinch? I think part of the problem is, the crazy value the other LUMIX cameras have created, (S5ii and S5iix). If those were priced at $4k like the Sony equivalents the S9 would look like a sweet little B-Cam at $1,500. Or a nice little intro Vlogger camera like the FX30 or Zve1. It’s like Panasonic is being hated on for giving us something with a lot of great features because it’s priced to close to the other cameras.
@@phoenixprjct EXACTLY. Nailed it. At the end of the day... it's a camera. You can choose to buy it or not.
1:33:39 what is this guy doing?? He sounds like he is in the marketing team of Panasonic defending a poor product.
Man was doing backflips trying to make the S9 sound like a great camera….then only to say that he found an S5ii on sale cheaper than the S9. Watching his segment after Gerald’s video kinda proved his point about where we are with camera marketing CZcams right now.
@@FrankyEames I just like to have fun. That's all. Anything wrong with that?
@@davidaltizer Not at all man! Have fun with it. Heck I might enjoy the camera. My comment wasn't to be inflammatory, just to point out a genuine point of criticism that has been noted about camera CZcams for a while. I think the contrast between the previous conversation with Gerald and your segment helps bolster many people's view about reviewers. (The broader view, not just about this camera)
I think that some of the content creators involved in camera marketing have a bit of a lack of self awareness that they are in a position that is dissimilar from their viewers. We don't shop in a vacuum. It's a little disingenuous to say that there's no other camera that has these specs at this price point when you can regularly find the S5ii for the same price or cheaper. The used market exists. I think it's valid criticism to wonder if content creators opinions about things are biased because they don't have to purchase the product with their own money, so they are not making the same decisions that a typical buyer would. So your over-excitement to overlook the camera’s shortcomings APPEAR to come off as pandering even if they are genuine.
In this PARTICULAR instance, I think the disconnect between the product's intended user and the North American creators selected to market this camera magnify the greater issue that many people have about "review culture".
To be fair, I think the S9 is a cool camera for what it is. I think that multiple things can be true at once.
@@davidaltizeryeah exactly. i think a lot of people confuse professional photography and casual fun photography. I think people should buy what they like and fall in love with what they shoot.
Which begs the question what happened to the original camera plan for this Lumix summit as it probably was for something more like a S1 mk II or GH7 type "filmmaker" body.
Strangely enough the P2303 registration was done way back in late september 2023. Even if the P2303A was/is the G9 it seems very delayed. Basically 8 months in! Which I think in honestly it is not as the S9 is only a slimmed down S5M2 which really should not result in such major challenges during development.
That kind make sense now. When I saw Matt reviewed s9 for wedding filmmaker I do not see it make sense for Panasonic Marketing. It does not hit baseline for Matt. Why would Panasonic send camera to someone that obviously will not like it for his usage.
I think CZcamsrs got in their feelings with this one. It’s just corporate politics. And the goal is to sell products so I’m wondering if people are truly surprised or just surprised that these views exist?
Of course corporate politics suck but that’s the way of the world in terms of how companies operate.
Balanced reviews would be ideal but I think everyone on CZcams at this point understands that 99% of CZcamsrs of biased. Everyone speaks from their perspective and some people are hype but once you get knee deep - you won’t be dependent on any specific folks. It has to be in you not on you.😬
The only people that should be upset about this camera are the people who buy cameras just to buy cameras, the people who buy cameras for a certain need, shouldn't even care, because if it doesn't seem to fit their needs they won't buy it anyway.
Whose fault is Gerald's echo-y audio lol. It can't be him...
Someday I might buy a Lumix S9. The first reason I won't right now is because I don't need it. All my current needs are well covered by equipment that I have. But when that day comes, it will depend on what alternatives are "out there", and what they cost. So there is the equation: my needs, the abilities and the cost. But specifically, yes, I could simply add an S9 to what I have and I could derive a benefit. And I would take in consideration what I would do afterwards. One thing that has not been mentioned is that, depending on the price at that time, and the alternatives, I could see using it as a "crash cam". But yes, a lot of this depends on the price, on the day that a need arises.
now this feels like a coordinated drop haha
If anyone actually listened to Gerald Undone’s little temper tantrum, he is quite happy accepting paid trips himself, his Defence is that he doesn’t make videos on those free trips. He even admits having made videos during the trips earlier in his career. Why must everyone adhere to a code of ethics, he only established when he became big and established, and the everyone he preaches about are not established yet.
Whether you are established or not, your review will cause people to waste money when the review is biased or have things to hide. Only the company benefits but countless customers suffer.
@@teohyc and your claim then is: by accepting such a trip, your review is automatically biased or hide things?
@@Alminox There is no easy answer to that. It depends on the creators. I've received countless free products over the last 10 years to review and I try to make my reviews as fair as possible, because as mentioned biased reviews only benefit the company and harms many others. The code of ethics I use is "Can I recommend this to a friend" and it has worked well for me. E.g. I won't recommend people (or my friends) a $20/piece screen protector that I receive for free when I know a $3/piece one exists.
I watched Gerald's video as well, and I didn't see it as a temper tantrum, but more of him voicing his frustrations on being expelled for giving his honest opinion about products. Gerald did not shun anyone for accepting or attending these trips. He explained why he did not make videos during those trips, and broke down the logic behind the structure of these events and how they push creators to make videos that may positively highlight the product in a way that could possibly be misleading. I'm not a youtuber, but I've been doing product reviews for many years and have personally seen how some companies will blacklist you when you do not give a glowing review.
@@Alminox Its just common sense that if there is an incentive and benefit to a certain opinion , that people will adjust it in some way because of that influence. Its like money in politics. the chances of corruptions will be higher once people get paid for their ideology.
“Take it with a bit of salt, do not assault.” - original, Pana so nick.
This was epic thanks
Just watched Gerald’s video. Was really good to hear the perspective and brands should definitely watch it
I watched it also but he's being hypocritical. He says at the beginning he doesn't care about the press events but by the end of the video he seemed mad he didn't get an invite. He also agreed with the marketing team that it's not a camera he would like while being upset he didn't get a camerato to review. He also explains his positive biased towards Sony's Marketing team despite having several issues with the camera while admitting he almost posted a video called "F**k LUMIX" when his main gripes are more with the Lumix marketing team not the company as a whole. Listen I like Gerald but anyone who watches his content knows the lumix S9 isn't for him so if I worked on the marketing team I wouldn't have sent an invite earlier when my goal is to positively promote by company's brand.
@@quentin6233 Gerald is a whinny baby. He doesn't mined making a hit video toward Panasonic and those You Tubers. He was mad that he wasn't invited to Japan. What a tool.
Gerald doesn't seem to understand how marketing works. Either that or he's being disingenuous. I hope he's just unaware.
lmaoooo the BWASH LUT pack is FUNNYYY
Sony hasn't released a camera in 6 months ....... OMG, their gear is owe-fully outdated. ....
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The release of the S9 is when they should've invited the newcomers like myself 🤷🏻♂️
If Gerald has a real problem with restraints via Company policies, well Gerald, buy the Camera Gear out of your own MONEY and then the problem is mostly solved.
Literally understood nothing of what he was saying
u remind me of demetrious Johnson 👊
Same Here!
I sure miss timestamps
99% of youtubers are shills. Getting free cameras and illegally not marking their videos as sponsored
LUT pack joke ... 🤣🤣🤣
mr undone! love and blessings!
It seems like someone is feeling a bit left out for not being invited to Japan. Let's be honest, most CZcamsrs review gear to gain views and subscribers. Now, you're upset because a particular brand didn't invite you. Remember, all the gear is just a tool. If it works for you, great. If not, find what does. You may need to rent some gear to try it out for yourself. lol
@@KeeganHanks wrong. they told him they weren't inviting him because they felt he wouldn't like the camera since it's not something he would typically review.
@@KeeganHanksno they didn't. They told him they weren't inviting him because they didn't think based on the content he does that he would like the camera. They gave him a rundown of the camera plus the specs and he agreed he wouldn't be interested then came out with a video saying press events aren't all they are cracked up to be while appearing super upset he didn't get an invite (despite saying he wasnt upset). The camera is geared towards creative and street photographers and his content is about the technical aspects of a camera while sitting still in a studio.
@@quentin6233I agree! When has Gerald Undone ever shot anything out side of the studio ?
FWIW, I never got into this for views and subscribers. I love camera gear and tech. Would talk to my friends for hours about it. Found CZcams, became friends with other CZcamsrs in this niche, and realized it was the perfect job for me. It's just weird... I'm able to remember all the specs and features of cameras, but can't remember which towel is mine or my wives in the bathroom.
@@davidaltizer Understood, But I said most not all. I've had conversations regarding this subject years ago.
Just realized I wasn’t subbed on this channel. 🤦🏻
Great talk! Unfortunately the constant echo was a bit distracting to me. Maybe you can check on that. And maybe I'm just too sensitive. But again, great talk!
Thank god for the S9 promos because it allowed me to see that snakes like Cam Mackey are spineless sellouts
I've said this before. If I do not have time to watch more than 1 review I'm watching Gerald's.
He sometimes overlooks some cons, but it's probably because he does not use all his gear in all the possible circumstances (just amateur photos and studio settings for the video).
But generally after viewing his review I know that camera or a lens is for me or not from the technical perspective.
As first Gerald doesn't sets the standard about how to enter a trip and make a video there or not... Every individual can decide this for themself. A camera is more than specs. You can sit before the Ferrari, name the specs , measure the horsepower on the bank, or you just drive it and experience it. Its the same with a camera.
10mins to start the show tbh cut it and just start the show
The only camera that might get some Fuji money is the ZF, even at a higher price point. This dumb as toy camera from Lumix wont take customers away from Fuji
I don't really like any of these companies they are all slimballs.
Gerald Undone is the GOAT.
1500 for disposable camera
The camera is for tiktokers ... so your audience is 12yo :D
Maybe BMD is going out of L-mount alliance, alliance, alliance, so they kicked Panasonic in the nuts with their new prices of BMCC6k FF :D.
That S9 should be priced at $1,000 and the camera would fit the market it was made for. But Panasonic is greedy.
really interesting.
A brand release the worst camera and the worst lens at the same time,
s9 looks like the worst product panasonic has ever announced.
S9 is garbage