REVEALED: Our New Engine!
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Hey guys! I know that the "why not electric question" will definitely come up here, so let me give you some reasons why we didn't go this route.
1. Electric is absolutely the way of the future. For the majority of boats who live at a slip and go out for day sails or weekends, an electric motor is a no brainer, because you can always plug in at the dock to re-charge.
2. People seriously underestimate how much power you actually need to be able to regenerate on board in order to have reliable electric propulsion. No, solar on a 36ft boat won't cut it. In fact, on a 36ft boat, we're already pressed to fit enough solar to cover our "house" needs.
3. That left us with the option to install a generator. Now we're talking buying and installing an electric motor, a huge battery bank, a generator, and a fuel tank for the generator. That's too expensive for us right now.
4. We know Uma has an electric motor -- huge, huge props to them. Their boat is also significantly lighter than ours. It also comes down to willingness -- they're willing to accept the pros and cons of electric. We got used to having the long range of diesel which allowed us to do trips like the canals in Europe. And remember: all sailboats are already hybrids. Most of the time we're using wind. When we want to be able to motor long distances, we want the range of a diesel.
5. Hybrids like what Tally Ho installed are also really interesting, but again, they're expensive. They also require a fuel tank AND a battery bank, once again a space issue that Tally Ho (a 50+ft boat) can deal with differently than MCII.
6. Ultimately, like we often say: there is no one "right solution," there is only the solution that works for you based on what you're willing to pay and what you're willing to compromise on. This was the best choice for us and our boat.
Exactly.
Sailing with thomas, talked about that electric alternatives, not something to consider.
Your logic is spot-on!
There’s a lot to be said for a simple diesel engine.
Electric motors on offshore sailboats are just dangerous. Sailing Uma is an accident waiting to happen. Electric sailboats will not save the planet. Sailboats are, like Aladino mentioned, already very green. YT influencers, sponsored by battery companies, never tell the truth about the dangerous downsides.
Best father-in-law ever for a boat building guy. Damn you are lucky!!!!
Hi,as a retired marine engineer i definitely agree with your dad, keeping the engine simple means it is easier to carry any spare parts,also a faulty engine can sometimes be cobbled together to keep it running whereas involving electronics and computers can make things extremely difficult.a good choice.cheers Roly🇬🇧.
As a mechanical engineer, I sincerely appreciate the unedited full disclosure 'story'. Thanks team for the excellent video!
Oh trust me -- it wasn't unedited hahaha!
When “Techies” start talking about their special interests,… there is not enough disk space available 😂
“ loved it 👍🏻”
Greetings from a Dutch Techy.
I have absolutely no mechanical knowledge nor understanding of physics but still found this discussion between Aladino and your Dad fascinating and such an expression of the respect they have for one another. And they both (and you as well)never fail to thank those who advise and help in the process of moving Sailing Magic Carpet closer to her splash date. My admiration of you all is unending❤.
Mary, thank you -- what a heart warming comment to read.
Although I am an engineer and I really appreciate the clear and concise discussion you included in this segment. Thank you very much.
You can definitely see Maya in her Dad. He would be an awsome CZcamsr! It's really encouraging to see this cooperation and positivity between men. And Maya cements it together "...love you guys..." So inspiring and just damn pleasing!
I can't speak to the boat version, but the tractor version of that size is like a tank. I am still running one from the 70's. I can also speak to fuel consumption. Once you figure out that sweet spot for each implement (think prop) you can go all day on 25 litres, or wide open for 3 hours or so. Those torque/power curves are real.
100%. Find that torque sweet spot and your diesel usage maximizes. Saves huge money on fuel.
@@studdy68And gives you range on a boat!
Hooray Bob & Kathy! Slinging an engine around up and down over this way - not easy, requires nimble flexibility! Enzo OMG yes!
As a geek, and all things sailing enthusiast myself, I would give this a double thumbs up if it let me. Thank you both (M & A) for all your education, entertainment and inspiration.
This video was over so quickly. I almost skipped it but your dad and Aladino made the topic so interesting.
I am no nautical freak. Despite that shortcoming, this was a most enjoyable episode. Thank you!
I love the name “Enzo” for then new motor❤ and know your boat will definitely not be underpowered now!
As a retired engineer, I love technical discussions. Thanks for adding this discussion to the video.
Peculiar. When I started to join you on your sailings in the Mediterranean, my idea was just to go along with a young sailing couple.
I´m truly a Terra Firma man.
As I've followed you along the French canals, German Rivers and the Netherlands I've been more and more curios of how sailing and boating works.
Now, with a top with this engine video, I find myself really interested in boating engineering. Really strange but I can at least blame you for this.
A Huge thanks!
we love our Beta 60 on our Kaufman 47. It's a really solid engine, 950 hours young, with proper maintenance with oil reports every 150 hours that look really good.
You have built a great team and are making solid decisions. Genius at work.
Love that the opening still features "the shed". Love that shed, love those days.
Speaking of that shed, i cant tell you what video it was but i found one of my favorite songs of 2023 that has been on repeat since then. Ill miss those days. Especially since i live in seattle and i thought they would launch from here. But its ok , im super happy and excited for them and i have memories! ❤
If you had a rig/sail failure, I would want the capability to return to port or continue to destination. If medical issues were involved in the incidence, it could be life threatening. Currently diesel is the only thing that could possibly give you that type of range with out betting the farm that the sun will shine. Then there is the costs, weight etc. that you mentioned. Very intelligent choice.
Wenn ihr könnt, das hängt an diesen Motor eine BALMAR Redline 6 Alternator an. Die sind weltweit führend und äusserst effektiv. Hab meinen nun 1 Jahr und bin begeistert. 100 W bei knapp über 1000 rpm und 4-stufige Ladekurve und meine Batterien sind in kürzester Zeit vollständig (100%) aufgeladen. Was mit normalen Lichtmaschinen (W-Ladekurve) gar nicht möglich ist.
Enzo, you shiny red beast! Glad they made a full episode about you. (And, despite my lack of knowledge, I found it engaging and super informative. )❤Lee
Best episode ever - but I’m a mechanical engineer so am possibly biased. 😂
Good choice! We went for a beta 60 and we are 16ton, you guys will move along well! Going to be a good day when you turn the key!
3 More advantages of non- common rail mechanically injected diesels:
1. Electric power loss does not necessarily stop the engine running on a mechanical engine. It does on Common rail. This is a particular consideration with any Lithium installation where the BMS can abruptly shut the system to zero volts to protect the battery. Discomforting if you happen to be running a reef entrance at the time.
2. High pressure vaporized diesel fuel is a fire hazard in a leak situation. In a tiny engine room it is potentially explosive.
3. Microchips are a necessary evil today. But on a boat they are the most pernicious of gremlins. Good on you for demoting your engine's to monitoring status.
Good call on the reduction gear. One thing Beta has received some criticism for is that their standard gear pairing is less than continuous duty without gear oil cooling.
Beta has done an amazing job at being DIY and generally installer helpful. Scott sounds like the west coast counterpart to Farren out here on the East coast.
Enzo is a great name! I went with Rudolph - both for the red nose and the original inventor!
Completely agree with the traditional injector choice over the common rail option. Also keep close eye on the quality of fuel when you do fuel in out ports. Get some water cut paste in your fueling set up. Water in the fuel is the bane of marine engines. If you're going with Racors, those clear lower bowls will make it easier to notice contaminated fuel, but sounding the tanks with water cut paste will let you know immediately if there is a problem when fueling or if there is a bad tank vent that is allowing water in.
Enzo...hilarious! Congrats on the progress
As usual I’m impressed just how competent and professional this boat build is. On my boat, a 41’ 15 ton trawler, I have a Ford Lehman 120, naturally aspirated and very old school, built in 1979. For engines simple is good. I might suggest for filtration having dual Racors between the fuel tank and the engine. If you do have bad diesel you can switch over to a new filter while underway and replace the dirty filter. Racor 75/500FG duplex fuel filter.
Can't wait to see Enzo purring along.
running the engine at the correct RPM where you hit that torque sweet spot is something most mariners (and all car ppl) don't quite get...its a fascinating topic and this was another great episode
I’ve been into car tuning and racing for decades. These days I get off on my Atkinson cycle plug-in hybrid loping along with moderate load, making barely any noise, and absolutely sipping fuel in the process.
Then I go online to the groups where people complain about not getting the advertised fuel efficiency while passing people on the open highway, asking why their engine is always screaming. Uhh, you didn’t try to understand what you were buying.
I was a little nervous when they started talking HP, but as soon as they started geeking out on cruise efficiency I relaxed.
MCII is going to be a properly equipped boat and so satisfying to helm around the world. I love this for them.
Nice engine selection. I agree with the naturally aspirated philosophy too, for simplicity and reliability as well
HA! The men clearly enjoying the nerdy conversation. Maya just rolling her glazed over eyes.
We love to get into the nerd stuff. Thanks for your patience, Maya.
Have a look at what Fellow BC Canadians at Edison motors are up to with their Topsy Hybrid logging truck conversions ..
You drive from electric but run you're ICE generator at its Stoichiometric optimum.. less fuel less pollution less wear and tear. The whole plot is lighter and more powerful. The fuel saving is 30-50% with an off road logging truck ..
Thanks Dad!
I have the exact same in my 39 footer, great engines from a fab company. Welcome to the Enzo family 👍👍👍
Nice interesting video ! Maybe a meet and greet with scot will be a thankful moment for the dad (in law) 😊💪
That was Great, Technical and not boring at all! Maya, Your Dad is awesome! Look forward to next Friday!!!!
Appreciate the simplification of the optimal cruising revolutions per minute is where maximum torque is achieved.
Around 25:40 Maya’s eyes were glazing over. She had reached her fill of the engine discussions 😂😂
Great choice guys! Looking forward to follow the installation.
What a great partnership y’all have . Very admirable.
You both work so great together. New location, there is so much more support. Smart move. Also love the Italian blood comes out with the Ferrari red.
Wow, you guys could do a whole show on in-depth technological matters. Excellent reciprocation and presentation. Thank you.
The engine is a work of art!
You are soo very fortunate to have 2 awesome men in your life😁
Isn’t it great to have a parents with same interests…kind people to help with details and engine delivery 🇨🇦 ❤
Had a Beta on my last boat. It was a great engine. I forgot to name it though. I'll posthumously name it Buster.
Just installed a Beta 38 on my Westsail. Repowered finally! They are renowned!
Great technical episode, for all us geeks out there!
Keep them coming...
Kybota are great engines and who can resist that gorgeous Ferrari red?! 😍😍😍
Very interesting conversation. Now I understand why a specialist in Island Packet yachts in Florida, called Mack Yacht Services, also re engine from Yanmar to Beta. I also followed your research on fridge and freezers and I'm now waiting for my coolblue eutectic freezer system to be delivered 😊. They offered a refurbished of my existing plate so I can keep the freezer installation identical 👍
We are stoked about our coolblue! Glad you went the same route:)
You need to name the engine Charlene! What an geeky interesting video, thank you for the in-depth explanation! Rob
Hey Rob, what's the significance of "Charlene" is some inside info or something?
@@IamBeautyBraeden The name of the woman that paid for a large portion of the engine. Rob
Loved seeing Orion in the opening sequence. Phil🇬🇧
Nice work, and really interesting. Thanks guys💪
Well, that was interesting. I’m certainly not an engine person, and I appreciate Maya‘s dream of making a boat story out of it, and accepting the futility of that effort. Bravo.
A fun episode... especially for this former U.S. Army marine engineer (yes, the Army had and has watercraft). I was geeking out!
I've been watching your chanel with great pleasure but wish to talk about my experience with Betamarine. We had the 3 cylinder 20HP engine and found it good. We did have some problems with it though, some of which could affect you.
1. The thermometer option involves a sensor that was in our case fitted close to the alternator and reduced the range of movement of the alternator when fitting or removing the power belt.
2. The heat exchanger tube stack can go either forward or back when taken off for cleaning. In your case it cant go back because of the swan neck exhaust fitting and cant go forward because of the alternator. In some ways the straight exhaust system is more convenient.
3. My Swan neck eventually got a hole in it due to the weld/ fixing of the cooling water inlet to it. Just be aware.
4. I very much liked the idea of the emptying of the gear box oil. Very convenient. When bought my engine used same lubricant in both gear box and engine. this was later changed so the gearbox got EP oil.
5. Beta insisted we fit a fuel lift pump as fuel was stored in the keel. This made bleeding the fuel system very easy but the pump made a loud clicking all the time.
6. The oil removal pump may let the oil out in an inconvenient place. Think about how you can get a collection pot into position and remove it without spilling oil.
7. Prop shaft seal. this will be quite difficult to access. I bought a good carbon/stainless seal in Belgium which lasted very well. Th old, already fitted greased seal was a horror getting grease everywhere.
Wow Maya, what a journey you’ve been on! Could you even have imagined when you were sitting in those music theory classes at university that you would end up with Aladino, running a successful CZcams channel, cruising the world in not one, but TWO beautiful boats, gifting us these fabulous videos and gracing the digital universe with your inspiring music? You two are a subtler, but no less simpatico version of Taylor+Travis; it’s just one reason why so many people are grateful for your efforts and want so much to see you both happy and successful 😀🙏😀
EXCELLENT discussion and really understandable for any sailor. I think 'Enco' is a perfect name for the engine. It will be a special soul to the Magic Carpet. "Run Enzo, RUN!" Best regards from Germany, Holger
Fascinating and complicated discussion!! As usual you and dad are a step above the average experts!! Bravo!!
Loves that, more please with these two! Love to k ow the technology stuff! Awesome!🎉
This no mechanic experience actually found it very interesting!
Yep we are so EXCITED TOO. A milestone has been achieved 😃
Maya, I couldn't help but notice your eyes "rolling " towards the ceiling at the end of the video. It was if the "Artist" was barely tolerating the technical convention. I.I'm sure that was not accurate but, I had to laugh out loud!!
Thanks for that. I needed a little levity!! 😘
“Congratulating you on your excellent summarizing was not an invitation to make this even longer!” is what that eyeroll said to me.
Well done! As a retired electrical engineer myself, it was a pleasure to hear Maya's father's discussion on engine sizing, propeller rpm, torque curve, fuel consumption, etc.. Proof that a dose of engineering beats the WAG (wild guess) approach every time. The amount of thought that you have put into this boat project is epic and will hold you well as you cruise for years. There's an old saying: "when you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there." You folks are at the opposite end of that spectrum. Hope that Canada has been kinder to Aladino wrt visa duration. Keep up the good work and every wish for health and success with MC II in 2024.
Not every episode needs to be a story. I really enjoyed the detailed discussion of the decision process and rationale for chosing the customizations for your engine. I also completely agree with your comments about why you didn't try to go electric or hybrid.
Great choice! I re-powered with a Beta 7 years ago. I've been so happy with it. Simply flawless. You'll love it
Thanks you So Much for a Wonderful Vidclip, for my particular 'needs' it has to be one of the Very Best so far .... :-) :-) :-) ..... Being a Retired 'Engineer' by Trade ( Toolmaking and CNC Machining etc ) I Totally 'sucked' every bit of information from the Vidclip .... Thanks So Much Brian for your Fantastic Input and Support. You explained 'things' so well, Really Technical, YET so easy to understand .... Very Best to ALL from ChCh, NZ
Cool, wie euer Projekt voranschreitet. Aladino macht alles mit Schweizer Präzision 😉 Grüsse aus Luzern
Good choice with your engine. Keep it simple and uncomplicated. I put a Nani engine in my Lotus 950 when I built it and Nani use Kubota as the basic engine as well. I was very pleased with it and it ran beautifully. Cheers and keep up the good work. Ian
Watching now. Really enjoy listening to Aladino and your Dad discuss how they researched best engine.
I was having anxiety for REAL seeing the chain holding your engine on the very tip of that forklift’s fork, lol!!
great choice ! there is a lot to decide when replacing a motor and you nailled it !
Thank you Brian, i needed this simple technical explanation. Thank you!!!! Love the "ΕΠΙΦΑΝΕΙΑ" (surface for the english speakers) T-Shirt!!!
i would also love to know how the Greek T'Shirt from Epifanes came to be? Great engine choice and love the name "Enzo".
G'day Crew,,
Great episode,,
can't wait to see the engine take her place .
Love the RED , so cool.
Enzo will be pleased .
Respect....!
being an old mechanic myself, you could probably run your new engine, with mechanical fuel injection, on used vegetable oil in an emergency 🙂
Love the name 'Enzo'! You need to watch the movie "The Art of Racing in the Rain"
great to get some insight to what happens in the background, making arrangements for engines etc
i remember too dealing with customers abroad, always an interesting experience and getting on so well, i always used to joke, if ever we meet remind me to throttle you - i did finally meet one customer out in Florida, and yes i did get to throttle him, great guy and i love dealing with these same kind of situations
Great choice guys..., and what a team! A few years ago I wanted to re-power my old Hallberg Rassy 312 Mk1 and I would have chosen a BETA, but then I sold the boat in favor of a more recent and confortable Moody 33 Eclipse (10 years younger). The original Volvo MD11 engine had a lot of hours but worked perfectly despite being a little weak for the 5800kg of my HR. The original Volvo in my Eclipse 33 is only a little more powerful (28 HP) but sufficient for its 6200 kg. 4 HP per ton are respected but I think that great importance should be attributed to the propeller and its correct dimensions. Congratulations for your very professional and passionate work. Well done!
Thank you all for a great video and discussion! I am very happy with my Beta 35 in my Vindo 995. Have had it for nine years.
Wow congrats on being a 995 owner. That boat is on my top 10😍
Maya could charm the socks of any engineer. Great work, great brains, great talent and great family! Keep it going..
Isn’t it great that father in law has same interests … sweet parents … thank u 🇨🇦 ❤
What an episode! Complimenti! Educating, entertaining, heartwarming.
Congratulations on the Engine Acquisition!
Hi, at least someting that reminds you of ITALY. Ciao from Dolomites. 👍
Dieselcraft makes a great centrifuge that is perfect for this type of fuel cleaning operation.
Great show. One note of caution: make sure to add security cameras in and outside your storage and more locks. That motor is very expensive and now it's location is well published.
Really fascinating discussion, thank you!
Interesting to hear the engine story. Lots of similar brands and ideas are seen the the UK canal boat channels I watch. Beta 43 and PRM 150 are quite common. All the best.
This video is just aggressively wholesome 🥰
Looking for a withe cross and a red on white maple leaf on this new stuff.
What a great partnership y’all have. Very admirable. Thanks!
Quite a fitting name for the new red engine - Enzo
Wow… found this episoed very exiting. There is so much to know if you build a boat by your owen… dini, ich bin immer wieder begeistert wie tief du in die Themen einsteigst… i keep watching every episoed
Congratulations , well done 👍. This is a huge milestone. I feel like know just enough about this process to understand your well described process and conclusions. My card file continues to grow. Thanks for sharing.
How lucky you are to have a father-in-law with his knowledge and I am sure a lot of help.
Hi guys, I personally find this very interesting. It’s wonderful that you’ve got a father/father-in-law wants to take time and help you guys out. It’s just wonderful to have good parents. Keep up the good work. Love the videos going to be good to see you’re in the water Cliff from Logan City, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺
What a great video and very informative in a manner that keeps us totally engaged
What an interesting episode! Fascinating to hear you guys talk about the thought behind Enzo!
I used Skene Elements of Yacht Design to calculate horsepower needed and propeller dimensions. This was a long time ago. In my case I was advised by this book to have a smaller diameter and a bigger pitch for my propeller to reduce the drag a bit more. In practice it worked out fantastic as I may say so.
Well thought out. Lucky to have such
Collaboration on the engine tech.
Very educational, excellent! Congratulations to you and your whole team!
Terrific episode and love the notes!