I’m an Australian living in Treviso. It’s card heaven here. You’ve got us playing Scopa and briscola every night. You can get a wide range of regional decks here xx
Finally the trevisane! I'm from Veneto and this deck is by far the best one (at least among the northern decks). Some notes: the Modiano deck's name is pronounced treviGIane (in Italian, "gi" is pronounced like the "g" in "giant"). The seal on the king of swords' card is the one of Treviso (Tarvisium is the latin name for Treviso) and not of Trento. Trento has its own regional deck. The fante of swords is called 'la Vecia' in Venetian, which means 'the old [card]'. The reason is that it is the only fante to have a beard, so it's supposedly older than the other fantes. It's unknown why he holds his own head. Keep it up! These wonderful videos are the only videos in English about the Italian decks, and their quality both in editing and information is superb for a small channel like yours.
Thanks for the great catches. Whoops, you're right about the "G." My Italian should be much better at this point in my life, but my English hasn't improved much either by now, hence the need for good editing! I also err-ed on the Tarvisium. I admit it's been difficult juggling all the different Northern regions. They're either "T" regions or "B" regions. I was so confused that for a time I thought that the Trevisane and Trevigiane were different regions! I am very intrigued by the Fante of swords, "La Vecia," I like that nickname. Do you know if he's holding a victim's head or is it just a reprint of his own? Thanks again for sharing what you know and I'm happy to have had the honor of reviewing the pack from your region!
@@Play-In-Games Don't worry, Italian pronunciation rules can be difficult to master for foreigners. About the Vecia, the common (but unofficial) agreement is that he's holding its own head. Maybe the reason could be found in the older decks where the court cards were displayed fully, but today it's difficult to say. The mystery surrounding this card is part of this deck's peculiarities. Did you know that there's a game named after this card? 'la Vecia' is a 2-people game played by dealing half of the deck to each player, who then discard pairs of cards of the same value (e.g. two kings, two twos...) except for the fantes, which can be discarded singularly. The Vecia can't be discarded, and must be kept in one's hand. After the two players have reduced their decks, they start picking in turn one card from the opponent's deck, and if they're lucky they'll discard another pair, but if they pick the Vecia, they must keep it! The game continues until one of the players (the winner) doesn't have any cards left and the other (the loser) has the Vecia. This is a luck-based game, but you can find strategies to make your opponent pick the Vecia. I couldn't find any video about this game, so I hope my explanation is clear. There's also another game played in Veneto, and it's called 'Cavacamisa' (meaning 'shirt picker') which can be played by two or more people. In this game, the aces, twos and threes are 'power cards', as the have the power to 'steal' one, two or three cards (respectively) from the next player. The deck is dealt evenly among the players, face-down. In turn each player reveals the card on the top of their deck in the middle. If it's an ace, a two or a three, the next player must put the same number of cards from his deck in the middle, face-up. The first player puts all the cards from the middle of the table at the end of their deck, face-down. However, if one of these one of these is a power card, the next player must do the same. The winner is the player that gets all the cards at the end. A guide for Cavacamisa, although it is in Italian: czcams.com/video/ZmJKIHUpa10/video.html
@@alvise.codiferro Thanks for sharing the rules of Vecia, the Venetian "Old Maid!" Perhaps I can make a video on it at some point. I played it with my kids and they really enjoyed it. "Cavacamisa" is another name for the southern "Camicia" which is a game my grandmother taught me. I happened to record a video on this game this past summer. Yet another video in the massive backlog! "Cavacmisa" and "Camicia" have been re-wrapped as the popular kids card game, Slamwich. Thanks again for sharing this vital information!
@@Play-In-Games I'm very glad I can help others understand Italian traditional games, which are slowly disappearing due to young people not being interested in playing cards.
Proverbs on cards? Definitely an interesting choice. I really like the design for the denari suit on this one. They don't look that much like coins, but they still look super stylish
Agreed, the coins look amazing on this deck, they almost look more like flowers. I'll be covering the Trieste deck next, which has even better proverbs.
Very interesting, it's similar to the Triestine deck which also contains proverbs such as "Sono gli amici molto rari quando non si ha denari" which translates into "Friends are rare when you don't have money" This deck is the most common in Croatia where i'm from, i haven't seen other decks for sale here
Also the Martin story sounds similar to a french nursery frère (which could be a nod to the franciscan monks, in croatian we refer to them as fratri which translates into brothers) Jacques or in croatian bratec Martin which means brother Martin where he oversleeps a moment letting the alarm clock ring.
I have a Masenghini deck from Bergamo. I assumed it was a Bergamasche deck (for obvious reasons) until I watched this video! They’re labeled “Venete” which I assume is the same as Trevisane or close enough. The artwork matches except for the ace of coins.
Yes you are correct. A previous commenter caught it a while back and I put a note about it in the video description. If only CZcams would allow for in video correction edits!
This was given to me on my birthday! My version from the manufacturer antini looks exactly like the dal negro, but doesn't come with proverbs, instead there are blank places where the text would be.
@@Play-In-Games ooh interesting! The tuckbox has a bit of info on them, they're based in via manzoni 188- vicomoscano cr. Definitely feels like the cards are less thick than the Mondiano & Dal Negro packs I own (of which Mondiano feels thicker but that could just be coincidence). I can't detect any printsmears or anything like that, but it's a shame it misses the proverbs. The design on the back is just the Mondiono one, without the Mondiano name. If you hold them in the light you can see stripes going up and down as part as some protective film, which is more blended in in the Mondiano & Dal Negro decks
ha! Usually either deck is fine, but with the Trevisane the Dal Negro deck is far better. Although if you're a puritan, the 2 of swords is made "G Rated" on the Modiano deck, so there's that. Thanks for watching!
The "Fante di Spade" (Jack of Spades) in Veneto is called "La Vecia" (The Old Woman), probably because he has long hair and, well, because at that time poor women did not use to shave their faces, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There is also a card game of the same name [also called "Asino" (Donkey, Ass) in other parts of Italy] to be played where the last one left with La Vecia in his hand is mocked as if he were a Donkey/Ass, i.e. an inept.
I’m an Australian living in Treviso. It’s card heaven here. You’ve got us playing Scopa and briscola every night. You can get a wide range of regional decks here xx
Excellent, I hope to make it there one day and go card hunting! Thanks for watching!
This one's my favorite by far. Such a beautiful deck from such a beautiful city and region! I found a deck in Taormina and love playing with it.
I agree, it's really grown on me. Especially the Dal Negro version. Thanks for watching!
Finally the trevisane! I'm from Veneto and this deck is by far the best one (at least among the northern decks).
Some notes: the Modiano deck's name is pronounced treviGIane (in Italian, "gi" is pronounced like the "g" in "giant").
The seal on the king of swords' card is the one of Treviso (Tarvisium is the latin name for Treviso) and not of Trento. Trento has its own regional deck.
The fante of swords is called 'la Vecia' in Venetian, which means 'the old [card]'. The reason is that it is the only fante to have a beard, so it's supposedly older than the other fantes. It's unknown why he holds his own head.
Keep it up! These wonderful videos are the only videos in English about the Italian decks, and their quality both in editing and information is superb for a small channel like yours.
Thanks for the great catches. Whoops, you're right about the "G." My Italian should be much better at this point in my life, but my English hasn't improved much either by now, hence the need for good editing! I also err-ed on the Tarvisium. I admit it's been difficult juggling all the different Northern regions. They're either "T" regions or "B" regions. I was so confused that for a time I thought that the Trevisane and Trevigiane were different regions!
I am very intrigued by the Fante of swords, "La Vecia," I like that nickname. Do you know if he's holding a victim's head or is it just a reprint of his own?
Thanks again for sharing what you know and I'm happy to have had the honor of reviewing the pack from your region!
@@Play-In-Games Don't worry, Italian pronunciation rules can be difficult to master for foreigners. About the Vecia, the common (but unofficial) agreement is that he's holding its own head. Maybe the reason could be found in the older decks where the court cards were displayed fully, but today it's difficult to say. The mystery surrounding this card is part of this deck's peculiarities.
Did you know that there's a game named after this card? 'la Vecia' is a 2-people game played by dealing half of the deck to each player, who then discard pairs of cards of the same value (e.g. two kings, two twos...) except for the fantes, which can be discarded singularly. The Vecia can't be discarded, and must be kept in one's hand. After the two players have reduced their decks, they start picking in turn one card from the opponent's deck, and if they're lucky they'll discard another pair, but if they pick the Vecia, they must keep it! The game continues until one of the players (the winner) doesn't have any cards left and the other (the loser) has the Vecia. This is a luck-based game, but you can find strategies to make your opponent pick the Vecia.
I couldn't find any video about this game, so I hope my explanation is clear.
There's also another game played in Veneto, and it's called 'Cavacamisa' (meaning 'shirt picker') which can be played by two or more people. In this game, the aces, twos and threes are 'power cards', as the have the power to 'steal' one, two or three cards (respectively) from the next player. The deck is dealt evenly among the players, face-down. In turn each player reveals the card on the top of their deck in the middle. If it's an ace, a two or a three, the next player must put the same number of cards from his deck in the middle, face-up. The first player puts all the cards from the middle of the table at the end of their deck, face-down. However, if one of these one of these is a power card, the next player must do the same. The winner is the player that gets all the cards at the end.
A guide for Cavacamisa, although it is in Italian: czcams.com/video/ZmJKIHUpa10/video.html
@@alvise.codiferro Thanks for sharing the rules of Vecia, the Venetian "Old Maid!" Perhaps I can make a video on it at some point. I played it with my kids and they really enjoyed it. "Cavacamisa" is another name for the southern "Camicia" which is a game my grandmother taught me. I happened to record a video on this game this past summer. Yet another video in the massive backlog! "Cavacmisa" and "Camicia" have been re-wrapped as the popular kids card game, Slamwich. Thanks again for sharing this vital information!
@@Play-In-Games I'm very glad I can help others understand Italian traditional games, which are slowly disappearing due to young people not being interested in playing cards.
@@alvise.codiferro Let's fix that!
Proverbs on cards? Definitely an interesting choice. I really like the design for the denari suit on this one. They don't look that much like coins, but they still look super stylish
Agreed, the coins look amazing on this deck, they almost look more like flowers. I'll be covering the Trieste deck next, which has even better proverbs.
Very interesting, it's similar to the Triestine deck which also contains proverbs such as "Sono gli amici molto rari quando non si ha denari" which translates into "Friends are rare when you don't have money" This deck is the most common in Croatia where i'm from, i haven't seen other decks for sale here
Funny you should mention the Triestine deck, look out for a new video on Thursday. I'll be coving the deck with the best proverbs.
Also the Martin story sounds similar to a french nursery frère (which could be a nod to the franciscan monks, in croatian we refer to them as fratri which translates into brothers) Jacques or in croatian bratec Martin which means brother Martin where he oversleeps a moment letting the alarm clock ring.
I have a Masenghini deck from Bergamo. I assumed it was a Bergamasche deck (for obvious reasons) until I watched this video! They’re labeled “Venete” which I assume is the same as Trevisane or close enough. The artwork matches except for the ace of coins.
That's a great deck, hope you enjoy it! Don't forget to pick up a Piacentine and of course, the Sicilian one too!
at 4:36 The "Re di Bastoni" (The King of Wands) does not have the coat of arms of Trento but of Treviso, because the cards are from Treviso.
Yes you are correct. A previous commenter caught it a while back and I put a note about it in the video description. If only CZcams would allow for in video correction edits!
Man, that would be a useful tool sometimes!@@Play-In-Games
This was given to me on my birthday! My version from the manufacturer antini looks exactly like the dal negro, but doesn't come with proverbs, instead there are blank places where the text would be.
Great Birthday gift! I haven't heard of Antini, how is the quality of their cards? Thanks for watching!
@@Play-In-Games ooh interesting! The tuckbox has a bit of info on them, they're based in via manzoni 188- vicomoscano cr. Definitely feels like the cards are less thick than the Mondiano & Dal Negro packs I own (of which Mondiano feels thicker but that could just be coincidence). I can't detect any printsmears or anything like that, but it's a shame it misses the proverbs. The design on the back is just the Mondiono one, without the Mondiano name. If you hold them in the light you can see stripes going up and down as part as some protective film, which is more blended in in the Mondiano & Dal Negro decks
Damn. I get this video recommended right after buying the Modiano Trevisane deck, only to see here that Dal Negro one looks so much better🤣
ha! Usually either deck is fine, but with the Trevisane the Dal Negro deck is far better. Although if you're a puritan, the 2 of swords is made "G Rated" on the Modiano deck, so there's that. Thanks for watching!
The "Fante di Spade" (Jack of Spades) in Veneto is called "La Vecia" (The Old Woman), probably because he has long hair and, well, because at that time poor women did not use to shave their faces, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There is also a card game of the same name [also called "Asino" (Donkey, Ass) in other parts of Italy] to be played where the last one left with La Vecia in his hand is mocked as if he were a Donkey/Ass, i.e. an inept.
Ah, that explains the feminine labeling. Check out my video on La Vecia, sounds like it’s the same as Asino.