Will China Take North Korea When Kim Dies?
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2020
- Hey Laowinners!
A lot of speculation is surrounding the dear leader of North Korea, Kim Jong Un. There is a lot of talk about what would happen after his death, and I am here to tell you, a China takeover will happen, but not a military one.
The North Korean Tik Tok I showed - / love21004
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North Koreans starve only because of sanctions.
@@alexsilent5603 How about spending billions developing nuclear weapons when your people are starving?
@@charlesmartel6654 Libya decided to prioritize food over weapons and look at them now... North Korea and Iran made the right choice to develop nuclear weapons and NATO can't bomb them like Libya.
Do you think there could be an uprising in c h I n a
laowhy86 let me throw a hypothetical at you. With recent events China has now become very unpopular worldwide and with companies now moving in droves to other countries such as Vietnam. With that let's say China with U.S and international pressure the people rise up after being inspired by Hong Kong, China collapses sometime mid- late decade so what do you think will happen after that? U.S occupation? Civil War? Taiwan annexation? Just wondering, thx
Is Kim Jong ill?
ok I laughed out loud at this. Thank you
Lmao
Yup. Sick, Funky Fresh, and chillin the most too.
Yeah, those cheap Chinese knockoff cigarettes take their toll...
No, but his dad is.
These are very insightful. It’s impressive that you make them live.
Indeed.
dayum! third time I've seen Tay in the comments section of a vid in like two days.
Yeah i agree . Btw love your covers
Chocolate rain
Absolute unit, haven't seen you since smosh imploded
A friend of mine went to school with Kim Jong Un here in Switzerland when he was a kid. He even gave her the best compliment by saying he would never want to marry a girl like her... Confident girls that can talk back were not to his liking :D
more likely it was racial reasoning, she wasn't, and isn't (North) Korean, and at the time he and his siblings were pretending to be 'of another family'.
Lmao
@Georgie Dubs Dumb leftie sjw troll
@@mscapeh4451 There is a possibility because he doesn’t have many wives as his father and grandfather
@@mscapeh4451 And theres videos of him that he touched some men weirdly and he does it many times and he barley touch women except for handshake and thats it
LaoWhy86 is now the pre-eminent journalistic authority on socioeconomic current events of North Korean and China.
Im pretty sure all intel agencies know about this footage and how things actually are going to go when NK falls.
China Uncensored?
Plus SerpentZA and Chris Chappell, they’re also good.
@@outisnemo555 i like chris too but sometimes he feels a bit cringy/weird idk
I mean, true. its not like any mainstream media would ever cover such a topic. goes against chinas interests.
North Korea, the country where the black market is just called the market.
China the only country in the 🌎 where a wet market is called the market 🐟🐢🐀🐦🐍🐊🐳🐒🐸🐨🐧🐌🐬🐜🐛🐙🐡🐠🐚
Mintberry Crunch Lol South America and Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia) have way more wild animal markets.
But it's not those countries that are trying to gain friends and influence people. They are just good old fashioned shit holes 💩💩💩🙈🙉🙊 😁
@@robbiekop7 Our highly industrialized factory farming practices have and will continue to develop dangerous diseases.
@@Luca-nu2zg Bovine spongiform encephalopathy
Best analysis of No. Korea I’ve heard. Your on-the-ground experience gives you a window lacking in most discussions
Was going to type this but then you basically said it just as good as I would’ve
@@ccriztoff um
@@ccriztoff the fact that a person liked this is concerning
Thank you for your video. This is scary. As a South Korean, I feel that policy makers of my home country really need to watch your videos. I hope your videos will get more attention in South Korea. Do you have any plans to attach Korean subtitiles? China Uncensored is doing it.
You have to also consider that South Korea would be emotionally in favor of taking over or bringing North Korea back into a South Korean-led nation, but on a rational level they want nothing to do with the huge costs of bringing the North up to anything like the same level of infrastructure and economy that the South has. So what the South really wants is for the North to leave them alone and let families talk to eachother across the border.
Are you out of your mind? It doesn`t matter the cost of the reunification, we wouldn`t accept North Korea becoming China territory.
You always create the most interesting and educational content. Thanks for giving us a window into that part of the world!
I agree whole heartedly with your conclusion. I think the expectation in the west is that the Koreas will be unified. They will be disappointed. China has too large an interest in maintaining buffer state. A buffer state that is a financial opportunity is even better. Even if, by some miracle, North Korea implodes and their is regime change from within, China will move to establish and maintain dominance of North Korea.
This is the most cogent take on North Korea’s future of any projection ever. All because you & Winston can speak Chinese & ride motorcycles along the border. Great thoughts.
Trippy seeing winston in tshirt and sweater. Makes me feel a bit dirty.
dennis rodman next leader of n. korea
Bangman357 LOL
Chairman Rodman, with the advisers of Redman and court jester favor flaw
Bangman357 he has been primed to take the position
Muy bueno....
Hahaha
I went to North Korea this time last year. After ended up drinking in a restaurant in dandong with a bunch of rich dudes and they turned out to be the North Korean border guards 😂 dandong is a strange place
Did u travel to NK for work? Under what conditions does one travel to North Korea
Zinhle Maseko just out of interest. I have a friend that lives on the chinese side and knew a tour agency that organised everything and it was actually super cheap. I didn't even need to go to an embassy, It's actually really easy to get into North Korea
@@wrux Thank you so Much. I would like to visit NK but I'm a bit scared.
Why contribute to the economy ? Know you visited just out of interest or something but... Damn, dude.
(very late I know 😅)
@@excusemesirs.isthiswhereib4514 99% of their tourist economy comes from China. They are making a fuck ton of money each year from Chinese tourists. One or 2 westerners doesn't make a dent in what they are earning from tourism
Ethic Koreans in China now speak the southern dialect of Korean when they study Korean at school.
What dialect were they speaking before? The North
@@jairoherrera4040 no not really. I’m not an expert in Korean language, but ethnic Koreans in China were from different regions of Korea so they spoke different dialects to begin with. It’s sort of like Quebec French and french french. They had their own dialect after a few generations that is different from Korean Korean. Then the rise of SK came, and SK tv shows and everything, younger gen speak more like S Koreans now.
I first started watching Winston's channel some weeks ago. Your most intriguing and insightful analysis on this issue has made me now join your channel. I have never been to mainland China, but I have visited awesome Taiwan, the preserver of traditional Chinese culture and values, six times, most recently this year in January and February. Yes, the question about whether a mainland Chinese takeover of North Korea is good or bad, is a really double edged question. I agree, that in 2008, it would have been far more desirable than now. You and Winston keep up the great work!
And a year later you still support, legendary man
You know that really makes sense in a way that, to me, almost necessitates this as the way this situation develops. As NK becomes more destitute and beholden to China, it will only become more and more obvious until China has nothing to lose in that regard.
This podcast had me subbing. Thank you so much for being better than MSM.
With all the preexisting conditions that Kim Jon Un has if he contracted COVID he's likely to suffer deadly consequences. Since North Korea has claimed they have no cases of the Corona Virus it would be big of an embarrassment to admit he has COVID. Laowhy himself has said their is no way North Korea doesn't have an issue with CV. I wonder if Kim is hooked up to a vent right now struggling to breath because he's sick. He's overweight, Drinks to much, Smokes, and has heart problems.
I love how Winston keeps rolling in periodically 😅
Interesting info ya got here, thanks for the analysis. 👍 also would LOVE to see you on Tim Pool's show!
They should've added a race car sound when he pops in and out xD
Who’s Tom pool?
@@roberthardy5171 a journalist and political commentator here on CZcams who does a podcast as well
China "officially" taking over would cause a geopolitical crisis. More likely, a 'legitimate heir' will gain power and China will pull necessary strings as needed, which is pretty much the current protocol. Unless NK explodes into chaos, nobody is forced to take responsibility, and until then, nobody will.
edit after watching: So, in summary, I agree with the video.
Wait for a more Radical Leader to press the button on Beijing. China near wanted a nuclear North Korea.
Yeah, N.K. provides a convenient pressure relief valve and proxy for belligerence with a nice comparative distraction on the side.
@@humansvd3269
We all know where NK got it's nuke tech from...
The story of every single chinese webnovel ever. A long lost legitimate heir appears from the gutters to take back the reigns from his "corrupt" family member.
Ther are rumours of a 10 yo son.
Went to NK last April, amazing experience in Pyongyang and spent 2 days in Sinuiju and the difference was night and day, travelling to Sinuiju saw lots of poor and hungry looking people, was a bit sad
Love listening to you and Winston. God bless you both for your great "real" and factual information.. So love to listen to your posts.
im so happy that you and winston are still making content together, that you didnt split up when leaving china. you play off each other so well.
43:10 My father was in the navy for some several years , and told me how Russian ships looked very intimidating, because they had tons of weapons and equipment on each one, but most of it doesn't work. When something breaks, they stick something else on next to it instead of doing proper repairs. This way, a Russian ship appeared to outgun the USA, but in reality they had fqr less firepower since most of it was in disrepair. For anyone curious, I think this is what he meant about soviets faking their strength. Btw I am an American, my father was in the US navy. My name is in russian since it's my 2nd language.
Are you from Alaska ?
The USSR didn't have the economy to maintain its military basically, but in terms of ICBMs, navy and armoured forces, they would've been a genuine threat. NATO predicted mainland Europe, except for the Iberian peninsula, would be lost in the event of a war.
the ussr had the strongest land army in history but now with the economy fading there much weaker
Real journalism yet lives! Thanks for all this effort. Best source of actual news in Asia!
This is exceptionally well informed and some great points C-Milk! Please make more of this content, love it!
He's trying to be like his father. He's no longer Kim Jong-Un is now Kim Jong-ill
The NK tik tok propaganda footage looks appealing. Beautiful green hills, wide streets, low density of people.
who knew they living better lives than us ha
Fascinating. There’s something about your presentations (both) that holds trust. Can’t explain it better than that, but you your insights interest me very much. Stay safe and healthy.
Great insight
Keep up the great journalism guys ❤
I lived on the border and traveled all along the border up into Jilin - even up towards Russia. What you are saying is mostly true.
Which parts are not true?
Hey guys, great video as always. As a Russian national I can confirm to you that we have North Korean workers in other spheres too, particularly in construction. My bf works as an engineer for a real estate project and as he says there is a bunch of NK workers on their site. And we live in Moscow, pretty far from the NK border!
Always informative. Appreciate the works.
You really put together an excellent analysis.
Laowhy86, thanks for the great video as always. As a Korean Chinese grown up in Yanji, there is one thing I disagree with you, most of us have identity cirsis but interestingly no one see North Korea as our identity. School kids no.1 topic is S.Korean idol, moms are watching S.Korean dramas and elders start a day with KBS News(S. Korean News). And as u may find from those Tiktok videos, you can hardly find any Korean Chinese doing those underground trade, even though our first language is Korean. I would say we are more liberal or less brainwashed than local Chinese.
But yeah, I strongly agree that CCP don't do it militarily but instead through business and infrastructure, and we Korean Chinese are very likely to be utilized by CCP as Cultural power.
I only lived in Yanji for two years, but I definitely agree. The Korean Chinese definitely have a unique perspective that is not Han Chinese, North Korean, or South Korean. I found that place to usually be very warm and welcoming. And since I’m from a border city myself, I found a lot of surprising similarities that reminded me of my hometown.
I definitely agree that probably a firmer version of “soft power” will be the way the CCP approaches NK in the future. Trying to do this economically would make the most sense. I do however wonder how the CCP will motivate Korean Chinese to facilitate that, since so many seem to be going to SK for better economic opportunities.
Interesting perspective. Time will tell ultimately how a power vacuum will play out. I hope they get a new leadership that truly care about NK people.
You are so right. Thanks for your channel.
I can see you to a very knowledgeable about what you’re talking about I saw your show on the motorcycle when you were near the border that particular border love your show stay awesome
Just FYI, the black market is the real free market. Kudos to you and Winston!
I'm so excited for you guys to finally be on JRE!!
When is this happening?
I'm assuming this is going to come out on JRE in the next couple of weeks or month. It's going to be soon though.
@@jbs9373 I don't think he holds onto videos for very long. Have you herd they already recorded an episode with Joe?
@@jbs9373 I think this is fake news bro
@DIORDOL VON GIOHEIM no its fake news. It Would have been a good episode
I love your videos really jaw dropping. Balanced and has a Wow factor.
laowhy86 I TRUST your very informative information......I always follow you all the way......Again keep up the good work.
I like how Winston keeps popping rolling about on his desk chair. Please do this more often xD (or other way around)
my grandparents' families are still in North Korea. Their parents, brothers, sisters, and cousins didn't escape from North Korea when my grandparents did in 1950s. They weren't able to see each other for 60+ years due to the separation of our country. now that they are in their 90s, i doubt that they will ever see their families before they pass away.
Korea (including north and south) has 5000 years of history together... and just in the last 75 years we are living as a different country. North and South Korea must reunite. different political views between two brothers dont make them strangers. China will try their best to keep North Korea alive so that they can keep the balance between communism and democracy in the world. I really wish they can stay out of it.
@Abdul Rehman you dumbass. The US is there BECAUSE of China. You must have forgot about the Korean War huh?
@Abdul Rehman Without the USA Korea would be under the north
Korea has hardly ever been unified
@jon B Green They speak Korean, similar food, were United for a very long time under the joseon and the Japanese, the divide has basically put a barrier around them, North Korea will end up like east Germany, Non-violence or violence
What What a lot of the main ingredients in Korean food was added during the 1800s. The Joson dynasty lasted around 1/10 of Korea’s history
Very informative video. Great work.
Thanks for the great content!
So many of the people there look like they stepped right out of the 1950's.
"Mao Zedong formally announced the creation of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) in October 1949. A year after the creation of the PRC, Mao decided that China would enter the Korean War and fight the United States and its United Nations allies for control of the Korean peninsula'.
In some statistics, the PRC lost nearly almost a million soldiers in the Korean war, no wonder they will prop it up. Of course.
They were about the last country to enter the Korean war, yet suffered the most losses. Hilarious!
General MacArthur was correct. Mao would never have risked sending his armies over the Yalu if there was the good chance those bridges would be bombed and the logistics sanctuary points and airbases on the Chinese side attacked. Since Mac was under orders not to do that -- and that order was undoubtedly leaked, probably by the British or the U.S. State Department spies -- Mao knew that he could send in waves of Chinese cannon fodder as reinforcements with no risk of them being cut off.
I didn't realize that you guys even helped each other on your solo stuff too, that's awesome though. I laughed when Winston first popped into frame but always enjoy hearing some of your experiences in China. Great video as always!
what a GREAT video ... Your insights a greatly appreciated .
I just stumbled upon this video, and it was very interesting. We can never really be sure what would happen in this situation until/if it happens, but I definitely see and agree on most of your points with China most likely taking control. I think the presidency of the US would have a large impact on whether or not South Korea would intervene. I've been living here for the past 5 years, and society wise, they have all been taught to want reunification, and have all said that to me in discussions i've had with different people. But like you said, government wise, they may not want to because of the economic effect. But with Moon-Jae-In as their current president, he is more apathetic to the North than more conservative parties here. Another issue with China taking over North Korea, is that they would probably inevitably try to take away their cultural heritage and language in the future. Like discussed with the treatment of the Ughurs and other minority groups in China, they would probably implement strict changes for the North Koreans as well, and depending on the time frame, could see resistance with that, since older Koreans experienced Japanese occupation, and were continuously taught to hate the oppression from a foreign country. Also, there is a lot of South Korean media making its way into the north through the black market, and many North Koreans know that the south is well off through things like Korean Dramas smuggled in, Many north Korean defectors have said in interviews and such, that they know more than they let on. Should be interesting to see what happens if anything comes of this. Definitely a unique situation in the world.
Watching this as a korean studies student and even though I know most of the north Korean part of this, its interesting to hear some details about chinese politics and such that I have not learned before!
Thank u for your insight! Amazing!!!
you guys are awesome xD shout out from nebraska
FASCINATING ‼️
Chris E ⭕️
I would like to see Korea wholly united when the right time to strike comes.
Your program is hands down better than any News Channel. Stay well and Safe through this time.
Great analysis, thanks
regarding west and east germany and their different educational level: this is simply not true. east germanys level of education was very high, up to the point, that they had the east european IT, of course with a lot of espionage in the west. Search for VEB Robotron, they essentially cloned x86 CPUs, floppy disk drives and much more.
There have been lots of other problems, but the education wasn't one.
One major roadblock was obviously, that eastern germans had as their first and most of the times only foreign language russian, not english.
Yeah, but they drove Trabant's :)
@@michaelpatten1286 what is wrong about a rennpappe?
Absolutely true. The quality of education was on roughly the same level and Eastern and Western Germany.
Korea had a very different starting point than Germany before each got separated. Germany had already a functioning education system and many highly educated people. After Japanese occupation Korea didn't have that to the same extent.
Honestly, I really hate that the East-Germans immediately chased unification rather than to try to be their own country, if the East-Germans were their own country for at least a decade they would have had a way better negotiating position.
North Korea should be its own free democratic country for at least a decade before considering unification.
黑龍 - Hắc Long why would east germans want to be separated from the west and vice versa? They had friends and families they hadn’t seen in ages, and you want them to be away 10 more years?
FYI, capitalism does not mean it is the exchange of good and services for money. Capitalism refers to the private ownership of capital.
Capitalism is a word coined by commie Marx. The actual name is free market. It is the voluntary exchange of goods and services and of course it involves property rights.
I think private trade has to be included, not just privately held capital.
Capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
So I am pretty sure "the exchange of goods and services for money" is very key to capitalism. It is why people work 80 hours a week to run a small business.
Kishore Kumar in some versions of communism, you can have property rights. What you can’t have is capital, money that makes more money. Let’s say you are a shareholder. That means you have capital. From this, you can also have voluntary exchange of goods.
@@peneficial1643 As long as capital was earned through voluntary exchange and not through "seizing the means of production" as commies call it, I am fine with it.
msnpassjan2004 nope, you can have private trade under market socialism. Also, when you said” rather than the state” do you mean to imply socialism is the control of the means of production by the state? That’s state capitalism my dude.
DUDE! C-Milk! How Have I not seen this upload before! :D Awesome, cheers man wishing u all the best during these wild times!
Great job gentlemen, stay safe.
"It's like Chinese TikTok"... I thought TikTok was Chinese 🤷🏻♂️
Ye another version
They have to have separate versions for everything to keep people locked into their social media as they aren't allowed to use youtube or google, it has to be state controlled.
North korean edition!
@OnEyedMonkey9000 It is Chinese owned.
"TikTok is owned by Beijing-based tech company ByteDance, and the lawmakers expressed concern in a joint statement Thursday that China's internet laws force companies in the country to cooperate with its Chinese Communist Party." Quote from ABC news.
Chinese TikTok Is The Normal TikTok
You guys should be Chinese affair advisor to the US government
Lol...
Well, they certainly have the *REAL LIFE experience* to do the job.
Mike Pompeo has been doing a fantastic job as the secretary of state. For one, he separates the CCP from the Chinese people; for two, he knows about the CCP's true color.
You guys should have your episodes on 60 minutes to help America learn how China has gotten to where they now.
Very smart points of view! Regards from Spain
Really great post.
Korea has historically been a "vassal state" of China...look at the history, history is just repeating itself. Interesting times for sure! Great footage you guys got up on the border, I gotta get up there again! hope you are well peace from Macau.
Yare Yare Daze.
Awesome video and analysis of the North Korean situation. I also believe that North Korea has a not insignificant amount of coal reserves that China could use.
Good video. I like the video footage of the two women making kimchi behind it too.
Havent listened in a while, but I really enjoyed this vid.
Thumbs up laoway, mas informative..
I've been trying to watch this video between working outside with the chainsaw, and moving stuff. It's so interesting that I'm going to need to sit down and properly watch this tonight.
Can't speak for anybody else, but I'm seriously digging the longer format videos, especially during CCP Lung Death quarantine.
I like your virus terminology. I might adopt that one.
@@laowhy86 - That would be dope.
Wow I haven't gotten an alert for your videos in weeks
This was excellent analysis. Better then material produced by a think tank. I have wondered about the N. Korea and China dynamic. This really helped round out my understanding.
Vassal State, exactly! Hopefully, it will mean that things for the NKers will improve.
No body shaming now!! You might hurt Kim Jong Un's feelings. (sarcasm).
The Elephant in The Room Question. I was wondering when someone was going to Think along these lines.
You lived in China and traveled extensively in the region. Maybe that's why you are more in touch.
Fantastic, Thank You for bringing a Real-Life focus.
I taught adults in South Korea (Ulsan/Seoul) from 2006 to 2014. I learned a lot from my students and from reading the Korea Times news over the years. I like the different kind of news you guys give.
You didn't cover the most important part. What will happen to the nukes
This video was done by a non-expert obviously. 1. All North Koreans are ROK citizens by birth, even Kim Jong Un. 2. This is why all North Koreans are trying to defect to South Korea if they could. 3. And yes, North Koreans do know they are automatically ROK citizens if they manage to reach Korean embassy. 4. Accordingly, North Korea as state doesn't exist in ROK, it's merely an ROK territory currently under occupation by Communist rebels. 5. Any Chinese incursion into North Korea is considered an invasion into the ROK itself and this triggers an automatic war with the ROK, Chinese know this. 6. The PLA absolutely doesn't want to fight the ROK military, the only military in Asia able to decisively crush PLA ground forces. 7. This is why Yellow Sea is so quiet relative to East China Sea and South China Sea, China doesn't want to trigger the ROK.
fantastic wonderful video.
A) that kimchi looked delicious
B) great insights and good points. As always well thought out and backed by actual personal experiences not just the internet or hersey.
C) thanks
How would u know what it tastes like ?if your not from there you shouldn't be eating it
Seeing the video of you on your Northern China road trip made me realize one thing... your old hair style rocked. Totally missing it now!!! Lol!
Let's bring it back! Helmet hair for life!
Did you search tiktok under DPRK? (Democratic People,s Republic of Korea - Most countries that have to say they are Democratic in their name are NOT Democratic)
I've noticed the same. It's like those countries have spent all their democracy for their name, and none was left to put in practice.
Hey man, love your and Winstons work, really cool stuff. As a person who was born in 1987 in Soviet Union, a lot of things China and North Korea are going through are very reminiscent of the pre-collapse of the Soviet era.
Shared your video , your family is very entertaining . I wish I could come up with some good questions .
These are interesting times we live in🙈🙉🙊
I went down a rabbit-hole of anti Serpentza and Laowhy86 youtubers man they talk some bull and side step all the important issues.... seems like it was worth the wait...45 minutes we should be so lucky. :)
Like which?? I'm curious.
Send me the link. M curious.
Most;y PRC CCP stooges accustomed to frightening Chinese ex-pats in Australia etc.
That is a good rabbit-hole to avoid. I'll admit to be lured down it on occasion, but it never leads anywhere good.
@@Crazymota erm whats his face nathaniel richie i don't even want to plug him... sorry i was in a rabbit hole again hahaha
Greetings from Pattaya, Thailand. Great to see you two together again and free in the West. I always enjoyed your videos in the past and wish you both well in all your future endeavors. Great insights into North Korea situation.
Great work keep up coming this kind of ( political) content
27:42mins Perfect statement !! "don't treat them like a world power, until they can behave like a world power" .... your profound insight needs to go viral. quickly
They actually behave like world power. If you are not with us... You will became one of us or stop existing. And no one can do anything.
Kim was recently friendly to both SK and US in relationship. I smell that kim would might change his mind little by little as his time soon will up
Yeah I have watched Love21004
Nailed it!
I heard a defector say that north korea is basically a capitalist society on the low, she said you can't do anything with out money.
Every country is capitalist. They all run on capital
@@mz4637 North Korea insists they are Communist. In which the government receives the goods and then the government distributes it to the people. In theory anyway.
Limmy?!
The guy from Scotland meets a lot of people.
Jill Sandwich she’s turned the wains against us
Good Job. Blessings Always Be.
Good job