Vocal Coach/Musician Reacts: JINJER 'Pisces' Live! My First Listen...
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- čas přidán 8. 03. 2023
- My very first reaction to Jinjer and this really took me for surprise...a few times!! Enjoy this live performance of Pisces with me! If you'd like to request a video such as this one then check out my patreon link below...
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All I can say is wow 😯
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I can't even.
Nina, let me appeal to the producer/engineer in you: there's TWO vocal tracks... one is the main vocal, and the other chains together whispered lyrics, the straight unison double tracking of the main vocal, and the original unpitch-shifted screams. The main scream is pitch shifted down a minor 3rd giving the general timbre of a male scream. Listen carefully through the whole track and follow the second vocal...
We all could see how your brain was reset! ;-)
Welcome to Jinjer. Just pick a song of theirs, and you're good. Check out "Perennial live at Wacken Open Air", "Retrospection live in Melbourne" and Tatiana's one take vocal of "Judgement and Punishment".
I always love when ppl discover Jinjer for the first time. Tatiana is an absolute beast but hides it so well when needed :D
It's become a hobby of mine to watch ppl react to this. 😂
I concur
@@SwedeSpeeder agree but more like an obsession or addiction
I finally got to see them live this year and fell in love with them all over again. Tatiana is a savage as a vocalist and they destroy live. Can't wait to see them again.
Yeah but these reactions are so fake. They always exagerrate. This song was just shock value only. I am not really a fan of this song. But every once in a while I like to see how much they are faking it.
I am so glad that you picked up on the musicianship of the 3 guys. A lot of reactors get so shook by Tati that they miss out the underlying class. Great reaction as ever Nina.
Yeah they’re all so so talented! Thanks so much for watching 😊
All of them are super talented! I LOVE the drumming in this one. The fusion of jazz and metal is so cool! And the parts where the bass and the guitar is doing the exact same melodic line is also super good.
The irony is they did this song to showcase the addition of a new drummer and what HE could do 😂
I love Eugene, I have a soft spot for the bass. Him and the sick puppies bassist are my favs atm
To be fair, I was the same. This is one of those songs where it's insanely shocking the first time...but you appreciate it more on the 2nd listen....or 3rd....or 30th
This never gets old lol! I could watch unsuspecting people reacting to Jinjer all day lol!
Jinjer reactions are great, but especially by knowledgeable musicians. After you get over the shock of Tati, you see that the band is top shelf. Many styles and very complex. I’m not a big fan of most metal, but I love this band! Hope you keep the journey going, one of my favorites is the live version of Cloud Factory.
They are from Donetsk in eastern Ukraine, where the fighting started in 2014. Tatiana is mostly self taught. Yes, there is some post production with the layering, but that is all her. This live session was done to showcase Vlad on drums, as he had joined not long before that, but it went viral because of her vocals. Vlad is classically trained on piano, but self taught on drums. He ,Roman (guitar), and Eugene(bass), are all awesome musicians. The guys were stuck in Kiev when the current fighting started last year, but were allowed to leave last summer to tour and be ambassadors for Ukraine. I think you are correct with 7/8. Tati's astrological sign is Pisces, she writes the lyrics, the guys write the music.
She can do it live too. The usual next step is Perennial live at Wacken 2019.
Great overview. I'd add that the OMV Home Back from their 2019 album Macro is about their hometown getting caught in the war. It's rare that we get the experience of war through the eyes of ordinary people caught in a conflict through their own authentic work rather than filtered through the agenda of some organization's platform. As such even before the invasion it was valuable for giving voice to the millions of ordinary people caught in every war. And since the invasion "we want our home back" has become a theme of the group's performances around the world.
I'm so f'ing excited to see her in August with Disturbed and Breaking Benjamin
I've seen comments on Eugene co writing lyrics on Pisces. anyone know if this is true?
Jinjer are a class fucking act. SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦🇺🇦
You bet I've got my "we want our home back" tshirt
There are 2 types of analysis of Pisces: those who can pick out and identify the 7/4 - 3/4 - 4/4 tempo changes and the majority who don’t. Kudos!
(And yes, they’re recent stuff is even more progressive!)
Next one could be Teacher Teacher, the song is amazing, the lyrics too... Great reaction as always...
Yes!
Thank you!
i concurrrrrrrr :)
Agreed! If you think alot is going on in this one, you're in for a treat!
Do make it the official video, though.
And might I suggest Perennial at Wacken for a great live performance after that...
I have been a Jinjer fan for about 5 years now. Tatiana is the front woman and vocalist, she has a very impressive voice range, her ability to scream and growl and switch back to sweet soft vocals with smooth transition is world class. A Jinjer song can be very much like a thrill ride you never know where it is going to take you.
"Home back" is a very powerful and moving song of theirs.
Great reaction. Tatiana is a Pisces herself and the sign is the 2 fishes/ 2 personalities. It’s very deep lyrically about her struggles as a somewhat introverted person, and the dual vocal styles are just genius, adding to this masterpiece. Not even their best song, but a great starting point. Well done!
Having seen quite a number of your other reactions, it delights me to see you get to Jinjer :)
Tatiana's clean vocals are haughntinly beautiful, and you calling them pretty is quite the compliment!
The E5 at the end is at the top of her range and she knew recording it that she would struggle to hit it live. She now sings that line using her false chord screams.
Considering she smokes and doesn't warm up at all before performing, the fact she's been able to do this for well over a decade now is extremely impressive.
Hope you take a look at more of their music!
Great reaction as always. 😊👍 I love Jinjer, and Tatianas vocals are insane. They are as good live on stage. Saw them live on a metal festival in Oslo Norway last summer. It was on a smaller stage, but easily the highlight of the festival for me.
Oh wow I bet that was amazing to see live! Thanks for watching 😊
You're the first person to mention that they are all facing each other during the performance...I've seen this video literally 30+ times but never really picked up on how important that might have been to the performance. It's so tight instrumentally.
Going from 7/8 to 3/4 in the verse sets up the chorus. Even first time listening it feels like it's building to something which is pretty nice when it's not done with volume but with tempo and pace. I think you would like their video "Judgement and Punishment One take vocal" as well as "Perennial live at Wacken Open Air" and "Pit of Consciousness live in Kyiv". Between lyrics, vocals, instrument composition and live performance they are really good. Having said that they have so many good songs on video you pretty much couldn't go wrong in watching just about any of the others out there.
Most just focus on the vocals, for good reason, but your comments on the music itself were really enjoyable and informative Thank you.
Always love seeing people's first experience with Jinjer. The ENTIRE band is incredible, every member is a master of their instrument. As I'm sure there's already comments below, but if you want to experience them again live their Wacken set for Perennial is absolutely FANTASTIC. It's the one where Tati is dressed up like a Ferrero Rochet lmao
If you'd like to experience a similar type thing with another band, Spiritbox is another absolutely incredible band with a singer who's got the sauce. She does one take vocal performances for some of their songs and they're all just bewildering. I'd suggest starting with Circle with Me or Rule of Nines, both are live vocal one takes.
Well done for throwing yourself into this, Nina! Simply superb. as always. Metalcore is not my thing at all but I saw them in NYC in November and basically leant against the front of the stage looking up at them mesmerised! Tati's tone kinda reminds me of Amy Winehouse (hey, I know what I mean LOL). I didn't know it was possible for humans do the things they each can do in a live setting. Vocally, it's the speed and effortlessness with which Tati can switch between angelic vocals and demonic growling. If you want to check out what they are like in a proper live setting, take a look at "Perennial" live at Wacken - a stunning mix of melodic jazz, belting, poetry and, well, noise!
Thanks so much for watching and for your suggestion!
That same reaction happened to me 3 yrs ago when I got 100% hooked by Jinjer since then. Welcome!!
Do Judgement and Punishment live one take studio. Really interested in how you will analyse the musical styles.
Wow, this is the first reaction I've seen that points out that bass line in the bridge with as much joy as it brings me! I've always thought of the "Pisces" aspect of the music being the contrast between the ethereal calm sections and heavy growl sections: "One being brings life, another runs for death"!
A fellow bass line fan 🙌🏻
@@ninaschofield Eugene, the bass player, is also one of the primary composers of the music, so it's no surprise that the bass line gets it's space. He's put several bass play-throughs up on CZcams that you might like to check out. He's really incredibly good and very innovative.
Just love this song - hard to imagine, but they are just as good live. Tati is such a Power House. Great to see your reaction on this one too. Always enjoy your reactions….dont forget Nightwish though….😂
Haha I won’t ☺️ Thanks for watching!
8:13 - I think you're the only person I have seen yet that pointed this out... Roman's guitar work in particular on this song give it that weird ebb and flow feeling... Very much like a river or the ocean
Everyone has this same reaction. Disbelief, shock, more disbelief, more shock, and eventually acceptance, 😳 mind blown 😮 acceptance 😳 lol.
*It never gets old to watch first time reactions Jinjer. LOL*
Incredible musicians + queen Tatiana.... amazing band ....
“So pretty” perfect timing 😂
Jinjer is my favorite 🖤🖤🖤
I believe this vid was actually made to showcase the drummers mad skills but her voice just captivates everyone.
Welcome to Jinjer! Waited for this reaction for a long time. The musicianship is on another level. Please consider reacting to Teacher Teacher next.
Judgment punishment is a one take vocal solely Tatiana and a mic
This is by far the best Jinjer reaction I’ve seen yet. 😂 It’s so unexpected.
Great analysis and reaction. Liked and sub’d. You absolutely must check out Perennial live at Wacken 2019. This band is one of the very few that may actually sound better live than in studio. More Jinjer please and thank you! 🤘🍻
Thank you so much!
Incredible reaction. Got the time signature, the drum runs, bass, everything. You’re amazing, musically. Totally enjoyed this.
Yay!!! I love Jinjer reactions 🤣 ❤
Welcome to Jinjer! I loved your reaction to this amazing band! I hope you continue the Jinjer journey!
There are a lot of good Jinjer songs, watching her do the switch between voices live is something else. The vocal coach part of you might be interested in her One Take of Judgement and Punishment as it has a good camera angle, lighting and wardrobe to let you see what she is doing with her posture, throat and face position. JINJER - Judgement (& Punishment) - Tatiana Shmayluk - One Take Vocal Performance czcams.com/video/Q5rg_63Shqg/video.html
Now for a suggestion of a different group. Lovebites an all female Japanese Power Metal band, excellent musicians, excellent singer, piano, clean (aka normal) vocals, English lyrics. LOVEBITES - Swan Song [+Chopin Intro] (Five of a Kind, 21/02/2020) czcams.com/video/WBhtqgiXEA4/video.html
I love hearing a reaction from a person with technical musical knowledge... YES... bass lines... the song is a masterpiece.
"it WAS so sweet" "could be a different vocalist" - Now we understand the "pisces" and the duality in the vocals reasoning :)
They're all really nice, and it's pretty cheap and easy to meet them, and ask them questions. Great band!
I like how the tambor of the bass makes it sound like it's underwater. Amazing attention to detail in this song. Also the unsung hero on the organ/keyboard with its tremulous vibrato also strikes an aquatic theme with my ears. Fabulous studio work!
Great Ukranian band Jinjer, and Tati is astonishing........awesome sound, love it!
Your the first reactor I've seen to catch quickly how the music reflects the lyrics, that's my favorite part of this piece.
If you look at one of the lyrical themes of fish being caught the whole pacing of the song is very much like catching a fish. The drummer sticking is the dropping of the hook (90% of reactors pause there), then it is violently pulled, the music eases as line is being given, pulled again, eased again, and then it's jerks till the fish is pulled from the water, and each section mirrors that in it's lyrical tone. It's amazing work.
Brilliantly talented band. Live, they are even better. I have watched many live videos since discovering them, so I thought I knew what to expect at my first Jinjer concert. I was mistaken. Absolutely magnetic.
3...2...1... THERE it is, hahahaha! I never get tired of reactions to Tatiana's talent
GOOOIIING SHOPPING!!
So so good to see Jinjer on here! Whether you get around to it on here or just on your own, definitely check out some more. This is relatively straight compared to a lot of their other stuff. Hopefully see another one soon 🙌🏻
"So pretty." Sips tea, smiles, waits...
Tatiana always surprises those who don't know her beforehand 🙂
F I N A L L Y!
@Nina Schofield❤
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None of us were expecting this when we first saw it, even the metalheads among us. 😂
I love reactors who have musical background. Jinjer sound is complex and the music is so incredible… can’t wait til you check out more from Jinjer.
I’d recommend Jinjer - Perennial live at Waken
Great reaction, your musical and lyrical analysis was interesting and very entertaining. I really hope you do more reactions to Jinjer! Tati on Vocals, Eugene on Bass, Vlad on Drums and Roman on Guitar. Some additional Jinjer song suggestions for reaction: Teacher Teacher, Perinneal, Vortex, Wallflower, Judgment and Punishment.
Thanks so much Nick, so glad you enjoyed it!
it is special and nice of you to do it in one go, without editing so much
Amazing! I'm hoping to go see her live this July.
Tatiana (the singer) is a Pisces (zodiac sign). The song is about the dual nature of those born under the sign of Pisces. The duality is mentioned throughout the lyrics, as well as in the melody and the arrangement. Thus it makes sense that Tatiana interpretation is done in a dual way, classic singing + screaming. It all comes down to the chorus:
"Scale armour blaze
Virgin innocence
One being brings life
Another runs for death"
The "fish" protective scales eventually meet their end: "Emeralds are ripped away".... "On cutting tables of callous men Under a knife of handsome butchers"
This is one of the best Pisces reaction videos I've seen. You picked up the time signatures, which isn't called out by many. You picked up on the doubling, too, although in a different part of the song than where I hear it best. To me, the roars are where the doubling is most evident. Everyone in this band is just super talented. Thanks for the video!
keep going down the Jinjer rabbit hole, it only gets better from here
Nice reaction. It's always fun to watch the first time someone watches this. And appreciate your comments about the bass, drums, guitar as well.
Also, i thoroughly enjoyed your review. You were so welcoming and actually getting into it! I freaking love it!! Tikal you for appreciating this art 🖤💜
I started cackling when you said "This is super pretty" because I knew what was coming immediately afterwards. The timing was comedy gold.
I couldn’t quite believe it myself 😂
very very nice reaction. lots of interesting things pointed out. hope there will be more Jinjer reactions!
Each drag out before the heavy parts is like the tide being pulled back before the tsunami arrives
Tatiana is nothing short of amazing. Now you need to hear Unleash the Archers with Tonight We Ride!
My favorite part of these reactions from all these years . Is when the hook of death comes in . Everyone's like oh she's sings so pretty . And she's so beautiful until the demon comes out 😂
Love, love, love your reactions. Such a unique perspective and still managing to keep it authentic. Cheers.
Vlad, the drummer, is the newest member. He is not a drummer "by trade," he is a classically trained pianist. Eugene, the bassist, is an unbelievable bassist and uses 2 hand tapping techniques to fill out the sound.
They are true masters of their craft. Hope you delve deeper down the Jinjer wormhole! Welcome to the Jinjer family! ❤
Thanks for your reaction.. more Jinjer reactions, please
Hi Nina, great reaction/review. You may have just entered a deep rabbit hole of great Jinjer songs. I've been a musician since I was a kid and I've played in multiple bands in several genres over the years, but I was never into metal music with harsh vocals until I discovered Jinjer near the end of 2021. I instantly loved them due to their interesting and varied songwriting, fantastic musicianship and the incredible vocals of the "metal goddess" Tatiana, with her amazing ability to instantly transition back and forth from her beautiful clean singing to some of the best scream/growl harsh vocals I've heard, female or male. I saw them perform in Boston in November and I can verify that they can pull off the music and vocals in a live performance (and Tatiana has great stage presence). A couple other Jinjer songs I'd recommend to show off their talent and versatility are...Perennial (live from Wacken 2019 video) and Wallflower (official video, which has great production and the song has a very cool "jazzy" groove and harsh vocal only in the latter half, along with lyrics relating Tatiana's struggle of being an introvert in the very public music industry). Another metalcore band that has interesting songwriting and a great female vocalist is Spiritbox (I discovered them at about the same time as Jinjer). BTW, I love your accent...it's like auditory therapy for me! 😁
I forgot to mention that if you want to hear more about Tatiana and her history of singing and learning to do the harsh vocals, Elizabeth Zharoff from The Charismatic Voice CZcams channel did a fantastic interview with her last year that is almost an hour and a half long. Also, there's another Jinjer video that shows off Tatiana's vocals....it's her "one take vocal performance" video for their song Judgement and Punishment.
I love how almost everyone that reacts to this, immediately says it was so pretty or beautiful! To me the whole song is amazing and beautiful
@NinaSchofield - Always entertaining to see reactionists and their surprise at Tati's vocals! And I did learn something from your comment about the music building and receding like ocean waves! I had not processed the music in that way, even after having listened to the song many times! But I still have yet to hear a reactor make comment about the whispered track behind the third stanza..."Neptune's child..." Adds an ethereal quality! Mahalo, Merci, Muchas Gracias for the review and posting!
please do more jinjer, every song is so different, my favorite band of all time
I think my favourite part in this song is the interlude right after that awesome drum fill at 07:37. I just really like the doubling of the vocals with that "whisper track" behind it. Also, the vocal line is fantastic, the snare gets room to breathe and enforce the whole "wave thing" you mentioned and the bass leads the way. Just an amazing bit of music going on there in those few seconds alone.
And Here. We. Go.
I love watching different people break down this song, cause I see more and more of the symbolism every time - I never noticed the sort of waning in and out, wave-like sound in the melodic parts. I also never noticed how much the time sig changes.
A lot of the lyricism and the duality of the melodic and metal sections serves to represent the dual persona of opposites that is attributed to Pisces - two fish swimming in opposite directions, and thus people who are Pisces are said to be pulled in opposite directions internally. Both the wave-like feeling and not settling on one time sig fit with this symbolism.
If you want more Jinjer, my vote would be for _Bad Water_ seeing how much you liked the bass. And as others have said, _Perrenial live at Wacken Open Air_ is also good.
Further Jinjer listening:
For multi-time signature proggy epicness with a killer mind bending riff and another high E belt near the end: I Speak Astronomy
For a live gig performance: Perennial, live at Wachen
For an untreated live studio take and a reggae/metal fusion: Judgement And Punishment
For social commentary and a bit of borderline rap: Teacher, Teacher
For lyrically hard-hitting, heartfelt reflection on Russian incursion into their country: Home Back
Just because it's musically brilliant, Tati does some incredible sustained growls and the video is really cool: Vortex
loved your reaction to jinjer the band is awesome
"Girls can do that?!?!?" reaction... never fails :-)
It's always a delight to watch first timers reacting to Jinger's Piscis 😁 I'll never get tired of the expression in their faces 😀
Oh, and they are even better live.
I've never heard anyone point out the "waves" in the instrumentation before, and I've never noticed that myself. Amazing! My guess is they didn't do that on purpose since they generally write via the band writing the music first and Tati putting lyrics/vocals on top later, but I think you're totally right that that's something that makes it work even more perfectly!
NEVER GETS OLD!
Vlad, the drummer, is self-taught. Eugene, the bassist, he is a beast. Roman is awesome. Tati, who'd have thought something that crazy came from someone so tiny. Big things do come in samll packages. They are also inspired by other genres. Judgement & Punishment is a great example.
Nice appreciation of the compositional elements and musicianship. I also love the drums and bass in this one.
Fun reaction and kudos for picking up on the amazing musicianship of the whole band. They are a treat. I never liked growls before I discovered them but Tatiana is just so good at all aspects of her vocal performance it's impossible not to be drawn to it. Pisces is about Tatiana through the lens of her Pisces astrology sign - loneliness, introversion, and chronic depression, but also hope on one side; hurt anger and self destructive urges on the other.
I was lucky enough to see them twice before the pandemic and they absolutely bring it on stage. Perennial live at Wacken is the usual follow-up to see them do their thing on stage with minimal post production (there are some light clean layers added in that weren't in bootlegs of the show). It also shows off her stage presence and skills as a performer - you'd never guess what she's overcoming to be what her art needs her to be which to me is incredibly inspiring. Subbed. Cheers!
Tetyana was learning growling by herself. In an interview she stated that it took a lot of hard work.
Haha, this is gold!
When I saw that you had finally done this one I immediately watched it. Your reaction was priceless! 😂
Tatiana really is a beast of a woman, and I mean that as a huge compliment. Her growls are indistinguishable from that of a male singer. In my book she is the best female growler in the world right now.
What a great reaction. I like the shock expressions. What I like about the track is the instrumental key changes flowing well with the dramatic vocal changes. It is getting popular for female vocalists to sing like that, especially in Metalcore. A popular group from Canada called “Spiritbox” is a good example. Another is “Ankor - Prisoner”, it switches genres from Pop Rock to Extreme Metal. It now shows ladies are as good as men doing extreme vocals. Demi Lovato’s guitarist Nita Strauss teamed with Alissa White-Gluz (Arch Enemy vocalist) with an amazing track a few months ago with the track: The Wolf You Feed.
So glad you enjoyed it! Yes the flow of the song is superb, despite the many changes 😊
Best metal band on the planet. Shes a metal goddess.
ha, an instant click, nina reacts to pisces, didn't disappoint :)
This is the entry to Jinjer song for most, the Jinjer rabbit hole runs deep. So many great songs each unique.
Love the reaction, noticing the layers of different tones in the backing tracks and recognizing the musicianship, songwriting and time signatures. Very refreshing people will vary genres and praise the musicality. Props!!!!
JINJER - Judgement (& Punishment) - Tatiana Shmayluk - One Take Vocal Performance
I love the way you make the reaction video! And it's double win situation for me because your English is so clear so I can catch almost everything (although my level is B1) and find out some interesting phrases.
Next one could be Jinjer - Perennial (live). The same hurricane but in front of huge audience. It blown my mind when I'd watched for the first time.
I love towards the end when she goes from growls to belt and back again , give me goosebumps 🤘🏻👌🏻🔥
I love when the whole band gets some love, all amazing artists.
You mentioned the smooth transition between rough and smooth parts. One of their main influences is Opeth. They are the masters of smooth transitions and mixing rough and smooth parts. My suggestion would be "Harlequin Forest" and "Ghost of Perdition" as Reaction or if you want only smooth voice "Windowpane". Opeth is a really unique band with tons of amazing songs. I rank them on my personal list on the same rank as TOOL.
First time watching one of your vids, and I loved the parts you enjoyed the most were the ones I reacted to the most. For me it's an instant follow' cheers from France
Your the only reaction to notice how amazing the band is as well vlad on the drums is one of the best there is 👏