SS14 - Anti Nukie Tips (Outdated - Pretty much everything was nerfed)
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- Getting caught out with no idea of how to fight back against a station wide threat can suck, hopefully some of these tips will make you feel a bit less powerless.
0:00 Introduction
0:35 Basic Spear
3:00 Laced Spears
4:22 Bolas
5:50 Makeshift Cuffs
6:33 Amatoxin
8:48 Plasma
10:06 Lexorin
12:13 Conclusion
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There are other powerful chems out there you can utilize, this is just to show you there are options.
Does a bone spear work the same as a normal spear, and if so how much damage does it do?
One possible alternative is polytrinic acid. Which although it does do caustic (unsure if armor provides resistance to a metabolized chemical or not), is MUCH faster acting with still very high damager per unit. (Processes 2 units per second instead of the 0.5-1u per second most other chemicals process at.)
The most infamous chemical is ss13 that i am unsure has not made its way to SS14. Namely becausr of how game breaking it is, simply by how it works.
Metalgen.
_I guess I got the Midas Touch!"_
The recipe for this chemical is ment to be randomized from round to round. Intially it does absolutely nothing, it requires another process to imprint a material onto it. Once imprinted it turns _any_ material it comes into contact into the material it was imprinted with.
Most infamously, it was used to _destroy_ the fission warhead. Not disarm, _Destroy_ . By turning it into plasma, and then lighting it on fire. Causing the Nukies plan to litteraly go up in smoke.
"Shoot me all you want, you can't un-plasma the nuke."
-boris.
@@itzaleaf405some armors like the cmo's hardsuit, bio suit, and also the blood-red hardsuit have caustic resistances anyway so it wouldn't do that much damage to people who have these armors
tbh chemisty has more geniva weapons then security likes to think about. but as someone who is already engineer aligned im seeing at lest a half dozen tools a engi has thats alreay full spend able to kill. or buildables even if im still learning :P i may practus some of the more safe options as i ditto as salvage.
As a greytider during a nukie assault, the most important thing to remember is that your role isn’t to be able to kill, but to make sure the person after you can. The damage you add onto them will help someone else confirm a kill.
More specifically, the goal is to make them run out of meds or ammo, or try to bait a China Lake shot if they were stupid enough to buy one.
They'll heal up the first batch of damage you do to them, and then the second. But once they've been attacked by the bartender, two passengers, a cargo tech, and an engineer, they're going to have spent a lot of ammunition on fighting them off and a lot of meds on healing the damage.
When you start talking about the glory of gunfights and honourable melee fighting, and the Nanotrasen crew hits you with that cold poisoner stare
Thank you nanotransen for the anti nukie PSA
"you don't have to actually eat the ramen but I'd recommend you do it" excellent comedic delivery
Imagine being and nukie commander and your team falling to a grey!
ive seen a clown solo 3 nukies
Pretty normal nukie round.
Those are some wild, wild tips.
I had not tried laced spears nor bow and arrows yet because before updates come to South American servers they have to be translated first, and we don't have that yet, I think, but soon we will!
Tip: You can get wood from the library if the map has it, during a nukie invasion it's very unlikely people will care about it.
Overrall, great video, if it had open subtitles I'd love make my own in Portuguese to increase the reach to some of our players because holy moly some people here really needs this.
Side note, I'm pretty sure the ramen cup turning into a glass shard is because it's just a reskinned bottle/glass and/or based on the code of those objects.
Another tip, a small one, "Rolls of gauze are easy to get, can be crafted from cloth, and are really strong at healing the specific type of damage nukies often inflict. Bullet damage"
yeah this is definitely a bit more empowering after i got a nukie round and just died in a second after a nukie killed me in 3 hits with a c20r
Syndicate Commander after this video: "We are *NOT* doing warops unless all of you chucklehead promise to have enough meds yourself, to instantly treat the spear thrown at you filled with god-know what chemicals that are gonna find it way in your chests."
Also, for bolas and stunning nukies, it is often better to try and use the gun or weapon that they drop from being stunned to kill them than cuffing, since they have a chance of having freedom implants. Or you can retreat with said weapon right after to annoy the crap out of them, since most nukies don't have or bother to buy another primary weapon.
Yeah going for the weapon is often better now.
@@LiltenheadSame as with cops minding their own business!
Syndicate agents taking notes
Ok, hear me out guys: Pax spears and mute spears. Pax spears can make your target unable to fight for a while, and if you're a traitor mute spears can keep your victim from calling for help.
I messed with pax, very funny and I wanna do it but it's too short imo
Whats pax?
@@TheYognaut64 It's a liquid that makes people not be able to do harm actions to hurt people.
@@TheYognaut64 It's a chem that disables combat mode, essentially making the subject a temporary pacifist.
This only makes me more determined to convince a nukeops team to go full quintuple chameleon kit (no Centcom officials). People just don't appreciate the damage one can cause when you got 5 undercover agents with double TC gunning for a single objective, the nuke disk. Solo-opping this way, I can already take out telecomms, power, etc. with no problems at all and change my appearance to fit any situation.
Ditch the bloodred. Choose the armored vest for fights instead. For every loud option, there is a silent and very cheap alternative.
My man!
I barely play nukie, i rather not do a chameleon…
More dangerous tactic I've seen is several loud nukies and one to two infiltraitors, which can bring best of both worlds (for nukies)
I would imagine something like a flamethrower would be quite powerful as once a nukie is on fire, Even though they have heat armor it is only 50% giving them the choice of putting themselves out making them vulnerable or continuing on as fire damage slowly eats away at them
Yeah it is fairly strong, only science can make it though and it requires a lot of prep.
Useful information. Thank you.
Finally, getting robust.
Absolutely brilliant I have never seen bolas used!
"I once killed a man, with THIS ramen."
When I'm Hos / Cap and there is war I just paste into the intercom;
"Med mass produce Pax and make spears. Eng / Sec establish thin window walls and get the secfab to medbay. Cargo order as much glass, plastic and steel as you can. Salvs mine. Sci unlock laser weapons and print as many as you can. Everyone else scrap the station for materials."
You then proceed to hold medbay and the area around it until the nukies run out of meds / resources because lasers are far more cost effective than physical projectiles will ever be. Esply with glass mazes
Works almost every time unless syndies are REALLY coordinated
The job introduction video nanotransen needed,
Also makeshift stun prods are pretty good too
Security officer with gun: I sleep
Greytider with poison spears: Real shit
NanoTrasen is proud of you!
Things to do after stunning/cuffing a nukie:
1. Use their own weapon against them after they drop it (killing them is the ultimate goal)
2. Strip their armor and gear while they're down/cuffed (especially if they have freedom implanters and they aren't dead yet, makes them much easier to kill)
3. Wear gear identifying yourself as crew while wearing nukie armor (recommend cloaks, bright non-syndicate bags, and lots of communication to minimise friendly fire; but sometimes better to just not wear their armour)
Here is my absolute utmost overpowered tip against nukies.
Only the disk bearer matters, everyone else is cannon fodder and expendable resources, you can give people grenades, spears laced with electric juice (from grinding batteries) or even just eating bullets while you run.
For this you've gotta work to rip the main character syndrome right out of peoples brains, including command, the hos is only the guy who gets better armor and guns, they're still a chess piece in the long game, the queen, the disk bearer is the king.
And that's why you should employ vietcong tactics and enclose everything
1v1 me nukie chess you go first
@@Blackern5000 I move b5 greytider to d5
@@marlikbudvergard there's no tider on b5 have you never played nukie chess before
@@Blackern5000 right they're all breaking into tool storage
remember as long as the station survives all losses can be revived or cloned
If you can get a wrench, you can deconstruct steel tables for rods and steel without needing to break them.
Yesterday was my first game as a nukie and a greyshirt threw an acid bomb at me. I don't know what happened but after 5 seconds I exploded.
>throw cup of ramen
>get glass shard
ok I love this logic
Perfectly balanced
Random tip from my very first time as nukie agent, always bring your c4 bombs, useful for breaching through vault doors and explosively breaking into areas, also energy shield underrated
I always try to blow up nukies with a maxcap
Yeah I think maxcaps sorta count as anti everything though lol
They can't blow you up if you blow them up first.
holy, now i can be robust. thank you
And remember, they also work if you're a syndie trying to fight :).
Very neat vid. Any chance you could make an unarmed combat video? Would love to see if SS14 has viable unarmed combat like SS13 (shoves, slips, grabs, cuffs, environment, etc.)
frontier players out here taking notes for the next million dollar fight night
Thanks wizards for not working high tech gorlax hypo through suit, but working glass spear
6:04 reason 1 as to why you should invest the free microbomb implant
Question about Lexorin, how exactly do I make it? I know I can just use the recipes in the guides, but one of its prerequisites, Mindbreaker, needs to be made at 370 Kelvin, and I'm not sure how to get those sort of temperatures for making chemicals. Also, how does Lexorin compare to Polytrinic Acid? I heard Poly does more damage but since it is caustic it is maybe partially resisted.
Pretty sure you just toss the beaker on a hotplate and wait.
Look at what it takes for a regular crewmate to match the power of a clown with a banana peel
This is also viable for agents that want to save TC
Doctors with spears can save peoples lives or overdose them by throwing the epi spears.
You may not get them yourself, but you'll help the next guy do it, you'll be awarded a memorial for your heroic actions against the nuclear operatives, unless you get revived or cloned...
Arrows are dippable now? Neat. Same as spears 5u?
Yeah both 5u
Max caps work well too. someone got them banned on delta v because they vaporized the nukies and 90% of the station lol
never fails lol
_"NOTHING STOPS THE MAIL!"_
-An Assistant, sprinting at the Nuclear Operatives, with a remote signaler.
I know the comment is way late but you could put pax on the spear
It’s interesting that you also create such videos for players.
I want to know what code the game is written in? As a CC13 lover, I would like to participate in the development of CC14; I even have a willingness to learn a new programming language and help in development and possibly translation.
And so, I’m waiting for new updates, I especially want an update on surgery and combat like in 13
It's developed on C#, plus some addition of XML
I got the botanist to grow me fly amanitas and covered nearly 20 spears in amatoxin. Nobody took them and the same botanist proceeded to block the spear when I threw it at a nukie and I died.
so does it mean that spear covered in grinded plasma deals more poison than just plasma spear?
Plasma spear covered in grinded plasma sounds like instakill
so now can you do a nukie tips vid?
Now botany just needs to be able to poison their axes or sticks.
When you got to botany I was going to say "and depending on the codebase its freaking overpowered" .. But I forgot this is SS14 not SS13 lol. ( Admittedly others can be very strong too. But they can not do EVERYTHING like Botany can. Something I have always felt was a bit too much. )
what about poly it will do way more pain
A very cool guide, but... why did you tell everyone this.. I’m very afraid that now each of these methods will be heavily nerfed..
But the video is good, maybe it will help someone a lot in battle.
If it's too strong it probably should be nerfed. I'm just not sure many people even knew you could do stuff like this
...hypo amatoxin...
I wouldn't worry about grays gitting gud enough to robust nukies but I will fear botanists for the rest of my life
you have never seen a true tider.
i dunno, ive seen a greytider with a crowbar charge a lone op in the vacuum of space with no suit and he came back a minute later completely unscathed and carrying a shiny new chinalake
“How to fight nukies, and get banned for powergamin”
I mean if you don't make these before you know nukies exist you'll be fine.
Getting wood ain't easy? Botney will.grow anything out of boredom unless told not too
And then.... We have stupid power gaming rules on almost every server.
yo man nukies are already struggling nowadays you really didnt need to make this 😭
you didnt say tips AND TRICKS not a real youtuber ;)
А если нюкер не анскил?
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These are currently intended gameplay mechanics. I'm not telling anyone to preemptively make these.