PJ Harvey should NEVER be compared to Courtney Love. Polly is in a different league. She has an exceptionally beautiful voice, she is a multi instrumentalist, she writes subtle and complex music, and is more naturally beautiful, talented and cooler that Courtney Love will ever be.
Courtney love l'a dit à sa manière, mais c'est certain qu'elles n'ont pas le même style et je pense que courtney n'a jamais prétendu être une star du rock 😉 Elle est dans un autre style de jeu que PJ tout simplement
It's funny how Courtney changed her views on material things and showing off. She's always name dropping, showing her designer shoes, how she knows Elton John, Lindsey Lohan, etc. I wish Hole could have stayed like 90s Hole. I wish I could stay in my 90s hole too. I miss my youth.
Courtney's so funny, and it was really funny when Eric tried not to laugh at what she said about PJ Harvey. Also, L7's such a badass band. So energetic onstage and hilarious when offstage. Especially what Donita said at 6:32 :D
Courtney made a lot of digs about PJ Harvey around this time because she's insanely jealous of her talent and probably hated the fact that Kurt was a big fan of hers. Love how she turns her back to the crowd hen she's playing pretend guitar
Well, Courtney was right about PJ not having experienced most of what she wrote in Dry/ROM, but I've always suspected that CL was a bit jealous of PJ because Kurt was such a fan and well, Dry/Rid of Me are great albums. Maybe jealousy is not the word, but competitiveness. Courtney is a PJ fan actually.
@@msantos6290 And? PJ never claimed she experienced everything in those albums. One does not need to personally experience something to write from different perspectives or create narratives
The funny thing about that is that PJ Harvey was always just PJ Harvey. There is no greater expression of feminism than a woman just being who she is in spite of what people think she should be. Courtney love was always reaching for the next "something". She was never genuine. I guess that's the nature of addicts. If she had to try to bring someone else down to lift herself up, she would.
Courtney is 10.000% herself! Strong but also vulnerable in her voice at the same time, so unique! She could be sexual on stage without degrading herself by any means, fully be there and be in your face. But PJ Harvey is just a different artist, the music is in no way connected.
We don’t know if she had this perspective at the time, but I believe PJs career has been feminist. She has embodied being a musician as opposed to a female musician. Why shouldn’t a woman be considered a musician/scientist/astronaut as opposed to female musician/female scientist/female astronaut. Even if well intended, that categorization can end up undermining women.
The nature of addicts? Whoa there! Don't insult drug addicts by associating them with Courtney Love. Her personality disorders are 100% her; nothing to do with addiction. Agree with you about PJ Harvey though. She's a real artist, the real deal.
I love how Courtney speaks about PJ harvey as a kid. I think PJ Harvey is extreme feminist even though she doesn´t say it. Its pretty obvious and Courtney is right about that but musically PJ Harvey exceeds everyone. Her 2011 album Let England Shake is considered her Magnus Opus almost 20 years after her debut. She continues to slay.
Easily. PJ is a genius/goddess/genius!!! I absolutely adore her and all of her efforts. My personal favorite is 1998's Is This Desire. But her genius is beyond compare & her body of work is stellar.
I dont think she is a feminist. She clearly takes exception to being pigeonholed even as a woman. The term feminist brings with it a whole series of connotations that I don't believe PJ Harvey subscribes to.
I love L7 and I love that it was totally intentional. Also, don't tell me L7 wouldn't approve this "message" and their only critique would be "you couldn't find a slobbier moment than that?!!"
While 23 is obviously a pivotal age, Courtney was in some states of arrested development throughout her 20's through her 40's and in various states of altered consciousness. For her to state PJ 'doesn't know what she's talking about' is really fucking rich coming from Courtney. Some people are 'feminists' in their own right and absolutely don't have to wear the label, fly the flag and advertise it. The art is all perspective and relative to the cause of feminism.
I agree Courtney talks b,s, and probably was jelous of pj Harvey because she knew Kurt was going to ask her if she wanted to tour with nirvana, Kurt did ask her and PJ Harvey said no and apparently that made Kurt like her even more , it's mentioned in the book by Everett true, Nirvana the true story 👍
@@crystalmonroy9111 yes Courtney was also jelous of Kristen pfaff because Kurt Gav her a copy of his favourite book perfume by Patrick suskind and look what ended up happening to Kristen
PJ and Courtney both are in a league of their own. They've both wrote critically acclaimed albums, that are amazing. They constantly reinvented themselves and have put so much effort in their work. I won't be surprised if there's ever any musicians that come out of the woodwork soon that say they were inspired by these female rockers from the 90s. These women could kick ass. They rocked just as hard as those grungy guys back then. Breeders, L7 and plenty of others included.
Spot on! I think Courtney really is a key figure in a new way women fronted bands. She is so unapologetic and full in your face, I think its great! I think she has a very unique and great voice, cuts right to the heart. PJ Harvey is good but Courtney is the reaaaaal deal! Amazing performer and songwriter as well! Just have to listen to recent band White Lung to be remembered how hugely influential Courtney still is! I think there is zero point comparing Nirvana and Hole anyway, very different bands and intent. Still don't get how PJ Harvey calls an album let England shake, what a crap title. Next shes going to kiss the Queens feet probably....
Are you guys serious? Have you not noticed PJ Harvey’s many many many excellent albums? And ongoing. Perhaps you could compare rid of me to something by hole, but that’s where it ends and musical genius continues. I’m sorry Courtney got hooked into drugs and all the other unfortunate stuff, but she simply does not go anywhere close to PJ Harvey in terms of her overall oeuvre
Philipp Boetcher you are an idiot. That’s one of the best albums of this Century. Kissing the Queen’s feet? 😂😂😂Wow... You are officially disqualified from making any comments about PJ Harvey from here on.
Courtney Love was commenting on how Harvey's work is inherently feminine even if she doesn't consider herself a "feminist", by definition. She was joking. Unfortunately, Love has always been one of those people who have been misunderstood because she says true things in a crass way. Courtney Love has been vocal about being a huge PJ fan since 1993.
Tee hee, Polly's tone in the first clip ("I'm a musician"... etc) suggests that the interviewer was asking her stupid questions. She sounds quite annoyed.
It's not that, it was Polly very first interview for french tv and both her and the interviewer had been cornered to do this "women in rock" shit by the record label and the broadcasting channel.
@@guadalupeodiard9320 Considering the absolute mess that Courtney made out of her life, should we really be taking her nonsense seriously? One can be whatever they want without being forced to subscribe to a label that pigeonholes you
erm....maybe that's why polly has had the endurance that she has because she refused to be lumped in with everyone? for the very same reason you used to get pissed at the press for lumping you with riot grrl.
Women aren't supposed to make these messes on stage anymore. They should all be like the paramour chick and sky Ferreira....I miss this kind of music. Evolution sucks.
yeah I have heard Pretty On The Inside and I based my judgement mainly on that album. Our tastes just differ. I know Hole was about her 5th band and that she was better known than Kurt when they first met. But come on, the succes that Nirvana had was a gateway for every band from that area. And the fact that 'Pretty' sold more than Bleach doesn't say much, she already had a lot of connections. She was already an actress. He was stlil a hillbilly punk at that point.
PJ wouldn’t need any conversation with Courtney Love and probably wouldn’t want to...There is one with class, a great knowledge of music, the other is pretentious, vulgar and so egomaniac, she has nothing to teach to anyone. I of course love the Breeders
Precisely what was the point of your comment? It's incredible how this entire video revolves primarily around issues of femininity and you just prove the point, so if that was your point then well played however I find that highly unlikely.
As opposed to who? The supermodels L7, Courtney Love and Breeders? PJ Harvey is the best looking lady in this group. How in the fuck did Kurt Cobain get stuck with that ugly bitch.
She’s a genius. She’s also beautiful IMO. Very beautiful. But really, do we have to talk about appearance of every female artist? (Agree with the first comment)
I consider it more impressive that P.J. Harvey refused to open for Nirvana when Kurt asked her to than it was when Kurt refused Axl Rose's invitation for Nirvana to open for Guns N' Roses. Even if she wanted to open for Nirvana, and maybe she didn't, who would want to risk being subjected to a backstage lesson in what a female entertainer is allowed to believe from the likes of Courtney Love? Actually, that might have been Hope Sandoval. PJ Harvey at least turned Dave Grohl down when he asked her to sing for Nirvana though. lol.
suhijo I know that. I have heard that Kurt personally asked her to open for Nirvana when they met. She had kind things to say about him, but if she did refuse, I think she turned Dave down for similar, personal reasons. I don't know.
I always have a hard time hearing Courtney speak, I can't think of her different than impossible to talk to and I believe that is exactly how she wants to be seen
Not to mention how smart Courtney has been to start Hole and marry Kurt and everything. She is more talented as an entrepreneur than as a musician or actress
Riot Grrrls = followers of The Women of Rock - these Sirens, these Goddesses... it is a movement. Some of us listened to them and were INSPIRED by them. The Breeders get it totally. Courtney Love.. HOLE 'nother story. L7... they just don't get a fuck.
Yeah okay, everybody relax. Courtney has said many times that she really likes PJ Harvey. We all know that Courtney and Kurt loved to talk shit all the time, just for people’s reaction.
Has anyone noticed how Hole are all playing their guitars right-handed? I saw a video where they were all playing them left-handed. I find that very strange.
Most people comment on Courtney, out of all the bands. Shows how interesting and captivating she is to them. (I actually love all these bands. Huge fan of Courtney.
@Garouix Yes, it is Angers 1993. It matches the audio.They played a festival there with Les Thugs (AFTER Hole!) and some other bands. There is an average audience recording of it, I don't know about a video. It's a good show, as most Hole shows were in 1993! Have you heard the Phoenix Festival 93 show? /watch?v=052zRPA0B1k It's great!
I like PJ and the Breeders about 10 times more than Hole. I can't believe how Kurt could ever have said he wanted to quit his own band and join Hole. I mean come on Hole? L7 is much better than Hole. They are so overrated as a band. Courtney was just locally known as that chick from Hole but worldwide everyone knew here as a Cobain before she really got succesful with her own band. The music industry sucks that's my point. Good bands disappear and less original bands take their place
Ok so what. Are you lecturing me about Courtney's life or what is the sense of this discussion? What I meant was that I just don't view her as a musician in heart and soul like Kurt. Her priority was recognition and fame and yeah she flopped a couple of times with her movie but was still aiming for a career and was eager to make friends of statue so she could get where she wanted to go (blowjob for contract- type of person maybe?). She was just more into the glamour (don't mean to piss you off)
Courtney Love is not very smart at all, how she dare to put down PJ Harvey just because she has different opinion, that's stupid thing to do. Anyway everybody knows PJ Harvey is way better Artist than Courtney Love.
+Jorge Camargo Courtney never cared about artistry so PJ's chops were irrelevant to her. It was about putting down any other female artists while vying for a position in the spotlight. That scene was created in celebration of women who wanted to do things on their own terms, but I guess Courtney wasn't for it.
Wait... So, after apparently (in Utero couple months before) ... Sooooo, more footage of that show? Did she intro it as a Nirvana song? Juuuuust curious 🤔🤔🤔
Polly Harvey was and will always be in a league of her own. There is no comparison.
Amen so true, new material in 23
Yes sir! Courtney is so insecure, for good reason
RIP beautiful Kristen. I see you! You deserved so much better. We love you and we miss you 💖💔💖
I find myself thinking about her a lot lately. Things just don't add up.
@@scottcharney1091 ‘I’m the one with no soul, one above and 2 below’
Always thought it was callous her changing the violet lyrics to that during 94.
@@ladygodiva4141 That too!
@@ladygodiva4141 holy shit that's totally admittance of courtney's body count jeez
@@stephenkane2464checkout her lyrics to Old Age
It's very nice to see Kristen Pfaff in that Hole footage. Very lovely to see all these musicians in one video
PJ Harvey should NEVER be compared to Courtney Love.
Polly is in a different league. She has an exceptionally beautiful voice, she is a multi instrumentalist, she writes subtle and complex music, and is more naturally beautiful, talented and cooler that Courtney Love will ever be.
Courtney love l'a dit à sa manière, mais c'est certain qu'elles n'ont pas le même style et je pense que courtney n'a jamais prétendu être une star du rock 😉
Elle est dans un autre style de jeu que PJ tout simplement
Agreed.
This is EXACTLY what I thought when I heard that comparison. LUdicrous
PJ by far the superior artist here..
but like…no
the breeders.
i love PJ Harvey but that's just not true lol, Hole and L7 are at least equally good (i don't listen that much to the Breeders though)
Respect to PJ Harvey.
PJ is great and she is well within her rights to say I don't want to be lumped in with this
Dian Wilson that’s true, and we don’t even know what the question even was or how it was posed here.
It's funny how Courtney changed her views on material things and showing off. She's always name dropping, showing her designer shoes, how she knows Elton John, Lindsey Lohan, etc. I wish Hole could have stayed like 90s Hole. I wish I could stay in my 90s hole too. I miss my youth.
Linday Mohegan LOL
Courtney's so funny, and it was really funny when Eric tried not to laugh at what she said about PJ Harvey. Also, L7's such a badass band. So energetic onstage and hilarious when offstage. Especially what Donita said at 6:32 :D
6:32... If only I saw this when it came out
PJ RULES!!!
Courtney made a lot of digs about PJ Harvey around this time because she's insanely jealous of her talent and probably hated the fact that Kurt was a big fan of hers.
Love how she turns her back to the crowd hen she's playing pretend guitar
Well, Courtney was right about PJ not having experienced most of what she wrote in Dry/ROM, but I've always suspected that CL was a bit jealous of PJ because Kurt was such a fan and well, Dry/Rid of Me are great albums. Maybe jealousy is not the word, but competitiveness. Courtney is a PJ fan actually.
i dont think she was jealous just enjoyed talkin shit lol saying inflamatory shit all the time was her thing (still kinda is)
@@msantos6290 And? PJ never claimed she experienced everything in those albums. One does not need to personally experience something to write from different perspectives or create narratives
The funny thing about that is that PJ Harvey was always just PJ Harvey. There is no greater expression of feminism than a woman just being who she is in spite of what people think she should be.
Courtney love was always reaching for the next "something". She was never genuine. I guess that's the nature of addicts. If she had to try to bring someone else down to lift herself up, she would.
Courtney is 10.000% herself! Strong but also vulnerable in her voice at the same time, so unique! She could be sexual on stage without degrading herself by any means, fully be there and be in your face. But PJ Harvey is just a different artist, the music is in no way connected.
We don’t know if she had this perspective at the time, but I believe PJs career has been feminist. She has embodied being a musician as opposed to a female musician. Why shouldn’t a woman be considered a musician/scientist/astronaut as opposed to female musician/female scientist/female astronaut. Even if well intended, that categorization can end up undermining women.
The nature of addicts? Whoa there! Don't insult drug addicts by associating them with Courtney Love.
Her personality disorders are 100% her; nothing to do with addiction.
Agree with you about PJ Harvey though. She's a real artist, the real deal.
@@465marko Thank you for this comment. I wholeheartedly agree with every word.
that last sentence...
you explained it perfectly.
Top 3 favorite bands
1.) L7
2.) Sonic Youth
3.) The Breeders
I need a gif of Eric's dissent into despair when Courtney opens her mouth about Peej.
Lol!
He laughed his ass off 😂🍻
Loool
God I love Kim Deal 4:07 And she is still this amazing
PJ Harvey is too good to be in this line up
@@scottlandis7753 Please get help.
@@louduva9849 1 year later, That truth hurt you!!!!
i love pslayharvey
l7 and pj rock.
My respect for Kim keeps getting higher.
I love how Courtney speaks about PJ harvey as a kid. I think PJ Harvey is extreme feminist even though she doesn´t say it. Its pretty obvious and Courtney is right about that but musically PJ Harvey exceeds everyone. Her 2011 album Let England Shake is considered her Magnus Opus almost 20 years after her debut. She continues to slay.
Easily. PJ is a genius/goddess/genius!!! I absolutely adore her and all of her efforts. My personal favorite is 1998's Is This Desire. But her genius is beyond compare & her body of work is stellar.
I think would be good for Just once to listen to someone's words and take them for what they are rather then going for what "you Wish" they meant.
I dont think she is a feminist. She clearly takes exception to being pigeonholed even as a woman. The term feminist brings with it a whole series of connotations that I don't believe PJ Harvey subscribes to.
Lol!
Kim: "But girls can be slobs."
Cut to L7
I love L7 but don't tell me that editing wasn't intentional. :P
I love L7 and I love that it was totally intentional. Also, don't tell me L7 wouldn't approve this "message" and their only critique would be "you couldn't find a slobbier moment than that?!!"
Oh man, as I was about to read this comment I watch that transition and have the exact same thought ... then I proceed to read this .
While 23 is obviously a pivotal age, Courtney was in some states of arrested development throughout her 20's through her 40's and in various states of altered consciousness. For her to state PJ 'doesn't know what she's talking about' is really fucking rich coming from Courtney. Some people are 'feminists' in their own right and absolutely don't have to wear the label, fly the flag and advertise it. The art is all perspective and relative to the cause of feminism.
I agree Courtney talks b,s, and probably was jelous of pj Harvey because she knew Kurt was going to ask her if she wanted to tour with nirvana, Kurt did ask her and PJ Harvey said no and apparently that made Kurt like her even more , it's mentioned in the book by Everett true, Nirvana the true story 👍
@@paulmcduff1930 yeah they said kurt had a crush on pj so it wouldnt shock me if courtney said that out of jealousy
@@crystalmonroy9111 yes Courtney was also jelous of Kristen pfaff because Kurt Gav her a copy of his favourite book perfume by Patrick suskind and look what ended up happening to Kristen
@@paulmcduff1930 tbh it’s kinda weird how Kurt had a crush on like 100 different people while in a relationship…
@@elisedelaserre9453 Kurt might have had a crush on Kristen but I would love to know who the hundreds of other people are ?
Check out Eric's face when Courtney says that PJ doesn't even know what she's talking about. it's like 'oh no here we go again, ground swallow me'
takitogoestoNY Yeah, I noticed that. sad really.
She actually has always loved pj Harvey and respected her notice how she kinda smiled when she said it it’s just her humour
Man this sucks me right back to my last days of high school. These women made life bearable for me then. Nice upload, good onya.
PJs "Sheela-Na-Gig" and L7s "Death Wish"
PJ and Courtney both are in a league of their own. They've both wrote critically acclaimed albums, that are amazing. They constantly reinvented themselves and have put so much effort in their work. I won't be surprised if there's ever any musicians that come out of the woodwork soon that say they were inspired by these female rockers from the 90s. These women could kick ass. They rocked just as hard as those grungy guys back then. Breeders, L7 and plenty of others included.
Spot on! I think Courtney really is a key figure in a new way women fronted bands. She is so unapologetic and full in your face, I think its great! I think she has a very unique and great voice, cuts right to the heart. PJ Harvey is good but Courtney is the reaaaaal deal! Amazing performer and songwriter as well! Just have to listen to recent band White Lung to be remembered how hugely influential Courtney still is! I think there is zero point comparing Nirvana and Hole anyway, very different bands and intent. Still don't get how PJ Harvey calls an album let England shake, what a crap title. Next shes going to kiss the Queens feet probably....
Are you guys serious? Have you not noticed PJ Harvey’s many many many excellent albums? And ongoing. Perhaps you could compare rid of me to something by hole, but that’s where it ends and musical genius continues. I’m sorry Courtney got hooked into drugs and all the other unfortunate stuff, but she simply does not go anywhere close to PJ Harvey in terms of her overall oeuvre
Philipp Boetcher you are an idiot. That’s one of the best albums of this Century. Kissing the Queen’s feet? 😂😂😂Wow... You are officially disqualified from making any comments about PJ Harvey from here on.
Kim Deal and PJ Harvey are really talented.
Hole playing "Pennyroyal Tea" ALREADY, just a couple of months after it is released by Nirvana.
eric erlandson what a wanker fucking up that solo sounds terrible
Courtney Love was commenting on how Harvey's work is inherently feminine even if she doesn't consider herself a "feminist", by definition. She was joking. Unfortunately, Love has always been one of those people who have been misunderstood because she says true things in a crass way.
Courtney Love has been vocal about being a huge PJ fan since 1993.
Kim's face is extremely beautiful!
Be awesome if L7 came back.
You got what we wanted :)
Tee hee, Polly's tone in the first clip ("I'm a musician"... etc) suggests that the interviewer was asking her stupid questions. She sounds quite annoyed.
It's not that, it was Polly very first interview for french tv and both her and the interviewer had been cornered to do this "women in rock" shit by the record label and the broadcasting channel.
Also I do not see where is the harm in what she said about PJ
+cannas tamara I don't either, she says that PJ is too young to understand why claiming the feminist label has a significance. It makes sense
+María Guadalupe Odiard did she say "she isn't a songwriter "
@@guadalupeodiard9320 too young? Google the ages lol
@@guadalupeodiard9320 Considering the absolute mess that Courtney made out of her life, should we really be taking her nonsense seriously? One can be whatever they want without being forced to subscribe to a label that pigeonholes you
Merci pour l'upload ! 20 ans déjà...
erm....maybe that's why polly has had the endurance that she has because she refused to be lumped in with everyone? for the very same reason you used to get pissed at the press for lumping you with riot grrl.
dude i swear i love donita sparks hahaha
Heard Kurt cobain name in it in the begining...love the crushed velvet, dark 1800s vibe the lady talking had at the start of this.
I'd be more than happy to assist the ladies in L7 with that request!
The 90s were great
Were they all playing at the same venue the same day? If so, this would've been a kickass concert to go to!
Women aren't supposed to make these messes on stage anymore. They should all be like the paramour chick and sky Ferreira....I miss this kind of music. Evolution sucks.
Breeders
LUV YOU P.G HARVEY
*PJ
yeah I have heard Pretty On The Inside and I based my judgement mainly on that album. Our tastes just differ. I know Hole was about her 5th band and that she was better known than Kurt when they first met. But come on, the succes that Nirvana had was a gateway for every band from that area. And the fact that 'Pretty' sold more than Bleach doesn't say much, she already had a lot of connections. She was already an actress. He was stlil a hillbilly punk at that point.
PJ wouldn’t need any conversation with Courtney Love and probably wouldn’t want to...There is one with class, a great knowledge of music, the other is pretentious, vulgar and so egomaniac, she has nothing to teach to anyone. I of course love the Breeders
Where's Kathleen "kill" Hanna???
PJ Harvey-Not the most beautiful of women (but she is attractive), but by hell can she sing, write & perform!!! She's in a league all of her own...
Precisely what was the point of your comment? It's incredible how this entire video revolves primarily around issues of femininity and you just prove the point, so if that was your point then well played however I find that highly unlikely.
As opposed to who? The supermodels L7, Courtney Love and Breeders? PJ Harvey is the best looking lady in this group. How in the fuck did Kurt Cobain get stuck with that ugly bitch.
Come on, she´s hot as fukk
She’s a genius. She’s also beautiful IMO. Very beautiful. But really, do we have to talk about appearance of every female artist?
(Agree with the first comment)
L7 were total grits, a tour with Buzzov-en would have been perfect.
I consider it more impressive that P.J. Harvey refused to open for Nirvana when Kurt asked her to than it was when Kurt refused Axl Rose's invitation for Nirvana to open for Guns N' Roses. Even if she wanted to open for Nirvana, and maybe she didn't, who would want to risk being subjected to a backstage lesson in what a female entertainer is allowed to believe from the likes of Courtney Love? Actually, that might have been Hope Sandoval. PJ Harvey at least turned Dave Grohl down when he asked her to sing for Nirvana though. lol.
StephenAndrew777 She didn't turn down on propurse, she had a big schedule committed.
suhijo I'm 99 percent sure she turned kurt down directly.
StephenAndrew777 I am talking about Dave Grohl, don't know about Kurt anyway.
suhijo I know that. I have heard that Kurt personally asked her to open for Nirvana when they met. She had kind things to say about him, but if she did refuse, I think she turned Dave down for similar, personal reasons. I don't know.
@@StephenAndrew777 she probably turned Dave down cus she thought it was for the Foo Fighers.
Interesting, thanks for the upload. BTW, Kim was really very attractive back in the day.
I always have a hard time hearing Courtney speak, I can't think of her different than impossible to talk to and I believe that is exactly how she wants to be seen
I remember having seen this on TV when it was aired the first time
L7, the Breeders and PJ Harvey are great artists ! And Hole is...
3:20 Hole finally singing a good song :)
pretty cool thanks for this.
kim deal's pretty
Harvey 🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝
I don't have to like them,just because I like their music
courtney speaking!!!
Not to mention how smart Courtney has been to start Hole and marry Kurt and everything. She is more talented as an entrepreneur than as a musician or actress
Right?!?
great to see breeders, and courtney love must have been happy during this period before kurt cobain shot himself
Riot Grrrls = followers of The Women of Rock - these Sirens, these Goddesses... it is a movement. Some of us listened to them and were INSPIRED by them. The Breeders get it totally. Courtney Love.. HOLE 'nother story.
L7... they just don't get a fuck.
I don't really know if Courtney put Harvey down, she made a comment about her take on feminism at the time...Her attitude is naturally rude tho lol
Most intelligent as well
@dummytree Thanks a bunch!
Courtney Love saying that PJ Harvey doesn't know what she's talking about. lol that has got to be the most idiotic remark in history.
Yeah okay, everybody relax. Courtney has said many times that she really likes PJ Harvey. We all know that Courtney and Kurt loved to talk shit all the time, just for people’s reaction.
oh god
LOL thanks for uploading
Courtney mocking PJ Harvey, no no no.
she mocked PJ Harvey because Kurt had a Crush on her
+Jamie Hellfire how you know?
I read somewhere that Courtney was concerned about Kurt's like for PJ Harvey. Like deathly concerned. I would be too, if i were a psycho hose beast.
@@belleofkilronan8565 Whered you read that?
@@tickedoffnow No he didnt lol
Has anyone noticed how Hole are all playing their guitars right-handed? I saw a video where they were all playing them left-handed. I find that very strange.
Most people comment on Courtney, out of all the bands. Shows how interesting and captivating she is to them. (I actually love all these bands. Huge fan of Courtney.
Yeah but why do you think all the bass and guitar players were playing their guitars left-handed in one video and right-handed in another?
@@ahmedmahon2022 The video was probably flipped
@@ahmedmahon2022 The first video you saw was probably reversed, to avoid getting taken down by copyright bots.
Hole could totally rock
Why have i never seen this?
thank you.
@Garouix Yes, it is Angers 1993. It matches the audio.They played a festival there with Les Thugs (AFTER Hole!) and some other bands. There is an average audience recording of it, I don't know about a video. It's a good show, as most Hole shows were in 1993! Have you heard the Phoenix Festival 93 show? /watch?v=052zRPA0B1k It's great!
Muito louca ela
Anything! Stop bullshitting. Jealousy because she was married to Kurt
I wish I could find that Hole performance/concert at 1:26!
@Garouix I think it might be Angers 1993 ? I would have to compare with the audio.
Angers 1993 yes
I found that out during the last 8 years and posted it on the LiveNirvana forum haha :)
Please someone tell me what gig holes footage that was from
@dummytree Cool! Someone should upload it; it appears to be one of the best performances of Violet I've seen.
2:51 side eye
6:26 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I can't believe she said that lol lol lol lol lol lol!!! She's my kind of woman.
Allore
I like PJ and the Breeders about 10 times more than Hole. I can't believe how Kurt could ever have said he wanted to quit his own band and join Hole. I mean come on Hole? L7 is much better than Hole. They are so overrated as a band. Courtney was just locally known as that chick from Hole but worldwide everyone knew here as a Cobain before she really got succesful with her own band. The music industry sucks that's my point. Good bands disappear and less original bands take their place
Ok so what. Are you lecturing me about Courtney's life or what is the sense of this discussion? What I meant was that I just don't view her as a musician in heart and soul like Kurt. Her priority was recognition and fame and yeah she flopped a couple of times with her movie but was still aiming for a career and was eager to make friends of statue so she could get where she wanted to go (blowjob for contract- type of person maybe?). She was just more into the glamour (don't mean to piss you off)
So what they're trying to say is that they're a part of a movement... right?
Courtney Love is not very smart at all, how she dare to put down PJ Harvey just because she has different opinion, that's stupid thing to do. Anyway everybody knows PJ Harvey is way better Artist than Courtney Love.
+Jorge Camargo Courtney never cared about artistry so PJ's chops were irrelevant to her. It was about putting down any other female artists while vying for a position in the spotlight. That scene was created in celebration of women who wanted to do things on their own terms, but I guess Courtney wasn't for it.
Jorge Camargo you said it better than I can comprehend she bashing pj, love is a poser bitch
Poser in the eyes of us to live in those days especially after Cobains death
She was one of the coolest musicians I've ever met in my life. YOu go your way I'll go mine.
tita4ewaz I do think she is cool I was not saying she wasnt
Courtney is so kidding herself thinking she’s better than PJ! The fact they refer to her as “mrs.kurt cobain” says it ALL
How can anyone put Hole in the same category as The Breeders? Hello misogyny?
Kim pretty and Kelly too. Kelly pretty and Kim too.
No it’s the breeders
whats the name of the very first band playing ?
anyone know what song is playing hole at the minute 3:28 ???
Penny royal tea
les breeders
L7
Courtney is so very pretty
She looked like a skank compared to Kristen.
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Is your name really Finch? And if so, any relation to Jennifer Finch of L7?? .....
This is pennyroyal tea
Wait... HOLE playing Pennyroyal Tea?? Was this before or after In Utero?
Wait... So, after apparently (in Utero couple months before) ... Sooooo, more footage of that show? Did she intro it as a Nirvana song? Juuuuust curious 🤔🤔🤔
Kurt was her husband...
nothing more embarrassing than slandering someone then years later covering their song and absolutely butchering it. courtney love annoys me