The Harsh Truth About Gender Surgery - Travis Brown (4K) | heretics. 30
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- Travis Brown is concerned about the dangerous side of gender ideology. He makes films that challenge dominant narratives and dogmas with the hope that people will think more critically about their beliefs.
Check out his brilliant CZcams: @thesignalproductions
Chapters:
0:00 Highlights
1:00 Sex is Obviously Binary
2:40 John Money’s Evil Experiment
5:00 Judith Butler & Jordan Peterson
8:00 What Makes People Trans
9:04 Neil DeGrasse Tyson’s Madness
10:00 Why Gender Ideology is Dangerous
12:00 Should Kids Transition?
15:00 How Travis Noticed Woke Ideology
18:00 Leaving Cults for Woke
22:00 Taking the Old Testament Literally
24:00 The Problem with Extreme Gender Critics
27:00 Stella O’Malley Controversy
31:00 Criticism of Kelly Jay Keen’s Hold the Line
34:00 Standpoint Epistemology
37:00 Trans Ideology: Bonkers
39:30 Should 25 Be The Transition Age
41:10 What I Saw At Gay Pride
43:00 Portland Woke Dating Apps
47:10 A Heretic Travis Admires
#heretics #gender #woke
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its strawmanning to say that trans ppl are denying sex differences
Hopefully you will have people who have more qualifications than social commentators to give balance to the discussion
@@debbieshrubb1222Richard Dawkins, James Esses and Peter Boghossian are not social commentators. They all have relevant professional experience in related fields, in Dawkins' case going back 60 years or so.
@@wade2bosh it's really not, I've come across plenty that claim they actually are the sex they pretend to be. If they didn't deny sex differences they wouldn't bother to pretend in the first place.
I did❤❤❤
When I had surgery to remove cyst at 26 years old, I asked the doctor to sterilize me because I didn’t want children and he refused. Because I “might change my mind”. But a prepubescent child can make the decision to cut off body parts. Absolutely insane.
The difference is that the child most probably has psychological and psychiatric distress which is considered weakness.This is eugenics.
@@karenrichardson8768 in my case, I didn’t want children because of my own inherited mental health issues
It's about the incentives. There is no incentive to do it, and the risk you wouldn't have been happy with your choice is 1/3.
So if you have no reason to do something and just a significant risk, you can understand why physicians are hesitant to chamge the status quo. Like let's be frank you do not need this procedure. You want it, so you can disconnect your reproductive system from the sensation of sex. This is not the natural order so any intervention is a risk, even if small.
There is a lot of money in trans surgeries. They are long complicated surgeries that regularly require revisions. That's a lot of billable hours. And the way the advocacy has gone, it is really hard for unhappy trans people to get any retribution from surgeons and clinics. So lots of monetary incentives and the consequences to practitioners are currently low.
I think it's right for doctors to dissuade younger women from altering their reproductive systems permanently, and I think gender doctors should follow suit.
@@emeraldtier1750 well, I agree with you partially at least. Children cannot make those decisions. I do think adults with fully grown brains should be able to make their own decisions about their fertility. I was already having surgery to remove an ovary with a soccer ball sized cyst on it and later I had more issues with my reproductive system that would have been eliminated if they had done what I asked when they cut me open the first time. They did make more money because I had to come back again for another surgery a few years later. I suspect that you are right in that that’s why they wouldn’t do do it
@@juliasugarbaker9032 This is what I see happening. My daughter has a sister with autism and autism in extended family. She said she did not want to pass on autism genes. So taking testosterone seemed an attractive method of sterilisation. It is a form of voluntary eugenics. Society would not tolerate forced eugenics.
Thanks for having me on. It was great to talk with you!
Great conversation
@@dkbegue Thank you.
Re: legal precedent for the 25 age limit. There is a limit of sorts: The insurance industry. Drivers under 25 pay much higher premiums. Medical malpractice insurers can also apply similar rules on doctors. If the doctors could not insure themselves against blowback for treating u25s that would effectively ban the practice.
Why not talk to Kelly Jay Keen yourself Travis
@@AnnyOKtoday No thanks.
As a woman I can say thank god for Kellie-Jay for ‘holding the line’. Men calling themselves women is deeply offensive to women. And when you give a narcissist man one inch he takes a mile. She is absolutely right we can not give one inch on our language. These two men and I really like Andrew have got to grow some balls and admit their truth and stop trying to please both sides.
I'm a woman, and it doesn't offend me. Sounds like a you problem.
If you’re a woman and you can’t see the problem then your an idiot or misogynistic!
You are spot on, and I thought exactly the same. Callling a man by a woman's pronouns, is the first way you can publicly confirm his false persona and encourage further artificiality. Maybe Andrew should look into just how insulting this trans business is to women
@@azkadeliaray521it offends every woman I know.
@@azkadeliaray521ok, good for you. Black is white, white is black.
Both twins committed suicide as a result of the sexual abuse they suffer at the hands of John Money.
Horrible.
@@thesignalproductions rumor has it that illicit photos of the Reimer twins are part of Alfred Kinsey's private collection.
One overdosed after battling drug addiction and his twin (the one that had his privates burned off accidentally in a surgical procedure) committed suicide after the loss of his brother and clearly related to being brought up female. There’s a small amount of evidence that does suggest there’s a part in the brain that is linked to gender identity and using 100 trans women’s brains it did appear that particular area was smaller and very similar to a female brain. That being said, it’s nowhere near the numbers that we’re seeing.
Money did photographs of the Reimer twins in sex acts. @@noragoldwithin6295
The Reimer twin story is far more horrific than just this. This clic of “scientists” of whom John money was a part of, is a rabbit hole in and of itself.
I spent the first 23 years of my life in a fundamentalist Christian cult and the experience of being in a cult helped me recognize transgender ideology as a cult. I am also a lesbian who has watched many gay people being “transed” over the last 16-17 years to my utter dismay.
@janesmith8050 I’m very sorry your family failed you. I hope you have the support system you deserve now. I wish all of these ideologues would stop and think about why Iran leads the world in trans surgery… it’s not because Iran is a beacon of equality and benevolence.
Whaa sad y a lot of bullshit how dare you shame on you
It is also an industry.
@@marieparker3822I think most massive corporations and industries are quite cult like.
Why we do and buy anything is due to marketing driving behaviour. The allegiance formed between consumer and brand is very cult like.
We don’t buy what we need we buy what we are driven to want.
The thing with cults is that they’re opted into- people aren’t coerced into them. Rather than the body being taken hostage- the mind is held hostage without the cognition that it’s happened.
I’m sorry you went through growing up in a cult. You’re absolutely right that gender ideology is a cult as well. I was lucky enough to not have grown up in one (though that didn’t mean no abuse). But I was a communist for a couple of young and dumb years when being a communist was absolutely fringe and we deservedly had to deal with 99% of the population disagreeing with us. Now mainstream parties like the Democrats, media and corporations are further left than my communist ass ever was. Even a lot of conservatives buy into it. And their opinions rarely get checked, so they can continue operating as a cult.
Kellie Jay Keane actually makes a difference and raises awareness that's what she's doing.
She was the light in the darkness that a lot of us needed to get focused on what is really happening and how to fight against it... From a lay person's point of view, not an academic. I've been to 1 of her rallies. i've met her in person ...she is a magnificent force.
@@roriemarie2968 She says she wants to censor all women who disagree with her.
@@azkadeliaray521she does not say that at all.
Maybe men feel fine calling Buck Angel "he", but I don't think any woman should be forced, coerced, or socially pressured to call a man "she" for any reason. It's just ridiculous, and it chips away at women's safety. And KJK is correct that is you call a man "she", then there isn't a reasonable way to keep him out of women's spaces.
Absolutely!
As women we judge whether a situation is safe or not 24/7: “Should I get in that elevator / walk down that alley / get someone to walk with me to my car?” And now you throw this st us? Women on a team, for example, that forces a man into their shower should unionize and walk out. Get a temporary job, you’ll survive. If it hits their bottom line, team owners will capitulate.
@@robinalexander5558 One of the saddest things about women is their reluctance to stand together with other women. For some reason, most won't. They would rather collude with some pervy male who wants to access women's "safe" spaces. It's depressing.
@@skathwoelya2935 Mind you, I have no formal education in this field, but here is what I've observed: women are *highly* competitive. It cannot be overstated how much that is the case ... only it looks so different from how men do it that it looks like scientists haven't caught on.
1. Women are territorial: both at home and in spaces they occupy regularly. There will be hard rules and/or clear signs of her presence (markers). Think of the office space that is decorated with pictures/flowers etc. While men will place markers as well, theirs tend to be less numerous/ostentatious.
You'll also hear things like "we don't do that here" or "you need to take off your shoes/put out the cigarette etc". Another example: your female coworker who happens to sit closest to the printer, she might consider the printer to be "hers" and you can get into all kinds of hot water if you fiddle with it without her permission.
Typically, ignoring these markers/rules won't lead to physical violence. However, the woman in question will become agitated, passive-aggressive, uncooperative, hostile.
(And I also think that people can be considered "territory" in some instances as well).
2. Women are competitive: whether they compete for attention, affection or resources, women have a clear idea what they want and need and deploy strategies to get it. Again, this is typically done without violence. Rather, subtle manipulation and/or bargaining. Dress a certain way, behave a certain way to attract or discourage male attention. Do little favors and eventually cash in on them by profiting in a bigger way (e.g. be a little bit early for your shift so your co-worker can have that cigarette break they so desperately want).
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And since women aren't a monolith, their goals don't necessarily align. When they (i.e. goals) do, alliances are common and tend to work well. But they fall apart if the women in that group have to compete for resources or are encroaching on another's territory.
Since women tend to be so good at social strategies, that's all people tend to see. The willingness to compromise, the ability to smooth things over, the (often just superficial) agreeableness ... yeah, that's just a facade. Behind it, women are tough, hard and ruthless. And if an alliance isn't in their best interest, you won't get them to play along with it.
Oh, and yes, I am a woman. And no, I don't hate women, I just see us for what we really are and I find it frankly ludicrous that we're all supposed to pretend we're not extremely capable and dangerous. Only not physically, that we are not.
Masculinity in women
When my 3 year-old son, diagnosed with spastic dysplasia, crawled to me and asked 'is it true that I am disabled?' I said yes, that he would hear that word, explaining that it was why he was seeing his friend the physio, to help him. He melted into my arms like no other person ever did before or since. 40 years later I cringe to think that nowadays he would hear in school about being born in the wrong body and the ability to change bodies.
I homeschool my son with CP, and a main reason is that I know he will hear a person in authority say that kids can be born in the wrong body. He can't become trans ambulatory, no parades or flags for him, just an actually vulnerable kid who has to accept his lot in life now thinking he was born wrong. It's awful to consider.
When I see "gender", mentally replace the word with "stereotypes", and viola, what I'm reading becomes a lot clearer.
Well yes. Which is why I find it anti-feminist to say “I feel like a woman.”
Gender norms are not stereotypes. Most men are happy to be masculine, as many women are happy to be feminine. Most women will NOT find a hyper feminine male attractive. So what's your point really? Stop policing what people do with their bodies.
I was hit by a car on my bike 8 years ago and my right hand was injured, my pinky finger beyond repair, but I had to FIGHT doctors in Ireland to amputate my pinky finger, despite great pain and no functionality. It amazes me that elective surgeries to reassign gender are so readily available in the USA. I used the "my body, my choice argument," but it was a lengthy process.
Edit: misspelling corrected
The hypocrisy really is astounding. Until quite recently, it was almost impossible to find a surgeon willing to perform an elective hysterectomy on a woman of childbearing age for anything other than cancer. Women could be in terrible pain, have very heavy periods, and either have children already or know that they never wanted children. Didn't matter. It was always "no, you might regret it later." Now they'll yank a uterus out of a 19 year old girl in a hot minute, so long as it was recommended by a doctor and/or therapist, whose professional organizations have decreed that 100% affirmation is the only option. It's insane.
Not only in the US.
@@ponygirl1716There are stories of women in female prisons awaiting reconstructive surgery after being r---d while the male (obviously) perpetrator gets new breasts paid for by the taxpayer.
The exceptionalism around "trans Healthcare" and the underlying misogyny still astonish me.
Dont recall being asked when they amputated my foreskin, the precedent is there. If you dont care about it in every case then no case has firm grounds on which to be argued for and corrected, we need consistency or nothing matters.
@@grapenut6094poor diddums
What a clever man, holding two thoughts in his head at once, unlike us silly, extremists.
Travis can take what he considers to be the moderate position. We are entitled to believe that there is no moderate position that doesn't open the way to harm women and children, and society more broadly.
100%
Let's ban abortion then.
Gender has always been a polite way of saying biological sex for both me and my mum. Its only in the last few years that it was highjacked to mean something completely different. Similarly, the words man, woman, lesbian and Queer have also been "rebranded" too.
Sex is not a dirty word. Consider using sex instead . Gender means nothing in biology . It makes sense only grammatically in many language ( not in English as English ots a pretty genderless language ) .
@@salvolondon I think OP is correct on the etymology of the word. Sex was considered highly risqué as a word decades ago and in some ways still is, so gender was used as a polite replacement. It's mainly rich billionaires owning big corporations and bribing governments who are pushing DEI and trans agenda on everyone. This is not a grassroots organic evolution of language.
I also used to use gender as a politer synonym for sex. The problem with English is that sex (male or female) is the same word as sex (coitus). Using the word can be hard if you are a bit too polite or have certain past trauma. Humans are complicated.
@@salvolondon We've had to start using it because of this issue. In fact, I don't use gender at all anymore but my mum still does on occasion.
It was the same when I was growing up. “Sex” and “gender” were synonyms for each other.
Andrew. Extreme gender critical people are not extreme. They just call reality words that mean the thing that it has always meant. Nothing extreme.
I think he finds it harder to #holdtheline because he's not a woman. I won't call a man a woman because it's a lie, and it's the thin end of the wedge. It's #bekind and making these small concessions that brought us to this point. I used to use 'preferred pronouns' but it ended up with more and more demands, weaponising women's kindness against us. I'm not doing it to be unkind, dogmatic, or disrespectful, we want our words and spaces back, so everyone has to, at some point, stop reinforcing this delusion, it is damaging.
Some of us remember when gender and sex were synonymous. When filling out forms, under Gender, there were two options male or female.
We can refuse to fill in forms which suggest there are more than two genders. We could refuse to fill in the question about gender on census forms. Governments need to be educated by the masses, not the other way around.
@@karenrichardson8768 the government didn’t invent 2 sexes.
I was born in 1962. Forms always said "sex," not gender.
@@VesnaVK I was born in 1961. Forms did not ask us for gender. It was easy, choice of male or female. Life was simpler.
@@karenrichardson8768yes. Sometimes it would say "Sex: M ⬜ F ☑️" That is, two checkboxes in one category, labeled "Sex."
I also remember that people would make jokes like these:
"For 'Sex,' I put 'Yes'!"
And
"For 'Sex' I put 'Both'!"
Thank you as always for a substantive and nuanced conversation. I'm a 59 year old childless woman, apolitical, with seemingly no 'dog in the fight'. The issues that I have are: changing the language of society to placate the preference of a few; and the potential sterilization of the next generation before they've had a choice to decide as adults. Your pronouns, your choice, and your body, your choice - not mine, and I won't be bullied into submission. Just note: these decisions may have unintended consequences that could become irreversible.
So do you think it's okay to call disabled people 'retards' just because it's accurate?
I have never, ever been a typical female. Never. But I am not the opposite sex. I never in a million years wanted to be male. So the idea that anyone not fitting the stereotype of being male or female must be the opposite sex is beyond INSANE!!!! When did reality change into bizarro world??? I am so very glad I never had kids....
And what is "typical"? You might be surprised. I have known SO many types of women and not one of them fit any mold. And I was a tomboy but then went through a totally girly stage later on. That's how we do.
@@TheMary0831 I guess typical wasn't the correct word. I should say stereotypical. Girly, if you will. I was definitely a tomboy mainly because my two older brothers had more of an influence on me than my older sister. I never had a girly phase. Closest to that could be currently because for the first time in my life I wear makeup everyday. I'm 51, so I feel I need to look more like an adult at my job...lol...
Yes, I've never really been interested in the things that are supposed to interest women. Yet, here I am, married with two children. I've never wanted to be a man either.
Me too. I just wanted to be accepted for what I was, but people always commented on my lack of femininity.😂
This! Plus what child doesn't feel alien in their body growing up. Its all part of life! Doesn't mean we are a different sex and need to chop bits off to be happy. People need to look at the internal instead of the external.
I was sent this from a real biologist who taught for many years ... "Sex is determined at fertilisation in mammals 5 days BEFORE the woman is even pregnant (ie developing embryo has implanted in the uterine lining. All nucleated cells in the subsequent individual will have either XX or XY chromosomes this is unchangeable. Even individual XX or XY cells behave differently. So-called “intersex” includes a variety of disorders of sexual development all of which are very rare and specific to either XX or XY people. Cosmetic surgeries and cross-sex hormones can cause physical changes which make a person look slightly more like the other sex but don’t CHANGE sex. In all sexually reproducing species sex is determined by the type of gamete the individual is designed to produce."
Stealing this…
@@impossibleagent3663please do! We need to spread the word far and wide!
@@Currer.Ellis.ActionI’ll be doing just that 😊
The worst part is, this was covered in my biology classes as early as 6th and 7th grade in US public schools back in the late 90s.
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An increasing number of people are refusing to go along with the trans agenda and with E I and D.. We are sick of being ruled by an insane minority.
It undermines democracy.
The USA is known for the predatory behaviour of it's medcial system. Call it Medcial Human Trafficking.
So can we ban abortion? If you want to dictate that people can't be trans then we can also dictate that it's evil to mutilate and kill unborn babies.
The essay "Pronouns are Rohypnol" is a fascinating perspective on why we must use the correct pronouns for the sex we see and not the one they choose.
So you want to call Buck Angel a "she", even though he looks that much like a man? LOL. You must think it's okay to call people with Down Syndrome retards too, because it's technically true.
What a great article. I had a conversation with two close friends about men in women’s and girls changing rooms. They were if the opinion that they were not a threat. Why? Because they “are” women. They would not concede that there are a proportion of men who are a threat and that proportion doesn’t change if they call themselves women. They in fact were happy to declare that this whole group of people were unable to be a threat. No whole group is immune from bad actors-not buddhists, not even women. This is indeed the great danger of using pronouns and believing that thinking something makes it so.
You won't save kids using wrong sex pronouns. In "Social transition" it is all about the pronouns. #HoldTheLine
Yep.
I agree
As a progressive, liberal woman this trans topic makes me uncomfortable. Women need safe spaces and their own athletic divisions. Thanks for this interview today. Very interesting!
Restrooms aren't safe spaces.
Holding the line is all we can do. Kellie Jay Keen is completely correct to give no quarter.
She is pro censorship.
Well, my first language is french. Gendre is used synonymously with sexe (fr). Gendre is considered more polite whereas the word sex is considered slightly low brow. So any official forms where disclosing your sex is required, the word gendre is what is on the form.
Differentiating Gender from Sex is ideological highjacking and has no basis in reality. .
What you described with the French language was exactly the same as with English until recently. People just make up rules and word meanings when it suits them!
Gender can mean sex and how we present masculinity femininity hormones and dress. It’s complicated term. Sex is simple male and female
I remember that tragic story of the Reimer twins,the John/Joan case, and their helpless parents, who were told, ' never reveal the truth to her identity,keep it a secret? Born in 1965 as Bruce Reimer,he received,at 22 months, an orchiectomy, to remove both of his testes and a vulva constructed and given the name,'Brenda'. The rest is history. Bruce,aka as David, felt he was always a boy as a teenager and repeatedly told his father, and the experiment stopped. A botched failure that was masqueraded as success by Money himself. This was one of the most unbelievable stories I have ever come across and yet many today,including parents, still argue for re-assignment surgery on children. For me, at least age 20 to even consider. Children should not be allowed to make adult life changing decisions. Thanks, Andrew and Travis, for raising awareness.
"would you rather have a dead son or a living daughter" is a modern cliche. John Money did not use this phrase with the Reimer family.
@@user-tg9qq8eb3h Thank you for bringing to my attention. I have corrected my words in an attempt to disclose that Money kept this under close scrutiny knowing what the consequences would be if otherwise revealed.
Would we have preferred he grew up without the attempt to give him some sort of normality? The real tragedy here is the story is only brought up to give perspective on the anti-trans issue, nobody would even know about it were it not for Money`s intervention. They dont actually care about kids getting hurt its just a political talking point for them.
@@grapenut6094 If the attempt of a sense of normality means cutting off his genitals and constructing a vulva then "NO". This is 1965 not 2024. Money was looking for two boys to experiment on his fetish belief on sex/gender. His claim, nurture vs nature failed and this was the grass roots of the ideology. Children need to be protected not coerced/affirmed until,I think 20 yrs of age, when they can comprehend what it entails to change sex and the irreversible damage it may cause.I also support someone who chooses to go down that path at the appropriate age even though I prefer they didn't.
I hear alot of what Travis is saying, but unfortunately i cant agree on calling Buck he/him. As a biology female it is a lie you're telling yourself. It also continues the confusion, people who are not so well informed on this topic. Many people still think a trans woman is a woman who thinks she is a man. This is why the language we use is so important and why I agree with KJK and won't budge on this.
If I was born forty years later, I would've been exactly the kind of kid that would have been told I'm not gay, I'm a girl.
I don't understand anyone on this side who doesn't understand that using wrong sex pronouns is the beginning of the problem. And, of course, Buck Angel is a problematic figure in the movement. She does porn. Your condescending attitude to women's disgust about that is appalling. If you criticize the abuse that Stella gets, also criticize the abuse that Benjamin Boyce and characters like James Lindsay give to women. I hate the silence on this by too many men. Benjamin Boyce's recent tweet was completely gross.
I'm a woman, and I don't give a shit. Clutch your pearls harder, shithead.
Not many people are aware of the colonialist history which involved how everyone in America was being requried to take a title after reaching the age of consent concerning marriage only. Before being granted the right to vote at the same time which is absurd.
Sex is a social construct? That's patently bonkers if someone believes in that.
Judith Butler IS bonkers. Unfortunately, millions of people buy into her insanity. It's been taught in colleges and universities for decades. I know, because I have a bonkers sister who taught it for years as a prof. Like Butler, she's a covert narcissist.
Andrew maybe interview a transwidow for clarity on the harm agp does to the family
Trans widow, Ute Heggen, has a CZcams channel, and has also written a memoir.
A transwidow and a detransitioner would be wonderful people to talk with. They are so often silenced by the cult.
Let's ban abortion too.
@@Currer.Ellis.Action Why are you trying to dictate what people do with their own bodies?
What you heard in this conversation is the position most people start off with when they tackle this subject. Those deemed extremists are the people who have been at the front line a lot longer and have seen the arguments play through on constant repetition. It is only by being exposed to a barrage of misinformation and personal abuse by those who "only want to pee" that the current position being held by anyone who wants change is agreeing with Kelly-Jay Keen. She is neither extreme or bigoted, she has just been at this a lot longer than Andrew and Travis and as a mother has skin in the game, so is willing to stick at it.
Well said. The longer someone has been paying attention, the less likely they are to use preferred pronouns. Once you've gathered enough knowledge it becomes pretty much impossible. I don't see a need to be hard on people who haven't got there yet, because they probably will.
She is extreme you arsehole. She literally said she wants to censor all women who disagree with her.
3:23 don't forget that for some reason John Money understood "raising David as a girl" to involve repeatedly mol3sting him and his brother over a number of years.
Money was a ‘lover of the playground’ but say that and FB and CZcams will ban you!
"Crisis of meaning" is a great phrase
I have a gay sister. If she had been raised today we probably would have thought she was trans, she used to say she wanted to be a boy etc, we probably would have run with it and completely messed with who she is! She is now in her 30s and a perfectly happy lesbian woman. Children don’t understand the sexuality side of it, she used to think that because she liked girls that that meant she must have to be a boy. Children shouldn’t be given life choices like that, if they want to transition once they’re an adult then fair enough…
Where did she get the idea in the first place that she might be better off being a boy only because she has the ability to appreciate more how people from the same gender look which is only a normal stage of child development while not yet having reproductive urges. Reproductive urges which are designed to help us human beings choose one mate. A person who has artistic talent sometimes does not realize that it is natural to find the face of someone who could be their future marriage partner more attractive out of the many other people around you which for some people does not happen until later in life compared to others which is in the normal range when it comes to human behavior. Some people do not reach their full adult height until age 21 or so. It only stands to reason that they will have the advantage in this world which rewards people who have educated themselves better while waiting for marriage.
Re Travis "we don't have a legal precedent to set it [age limit on surgery] at 25 years old" at 39:40 - we do have a precedent of sort in sterilisation policy and procedures. Any woman who wants to get sterilised at 18, 25 or even 30+ will have an almost impossible battle. If you have had children you may succeed but if not, it is very unlikely. Vascetomy (while significantly less controlled by age than the female equivalent) is often legal from 18yo yet still few doctors will actually do it on an 18yo. Most public health systems in western countries have very clear age limit for sterilisation procedures (minimum ages) and publicly funded fertility treatments (maximum ages). So if we see gender transition through the lens of its impact on fertility, there are comparisons which give us some precedent for greater age control than the automatic age of adulthood. If a 32 year old childless woman can't access sterilisation then why should an 18 year old female who is trans-identified have unfettered access to sterilisation?
So we should ban abortion.
Please keep up the conversation. We need to cancel this "wrong gender", "gender fluid", "men can be woman" nonsense once and for all.
You sound like the word police.
😂 the only policing required is to stop this 'wrong gender" BS before it gets out of control.
@@murraylangley2449 Let's ban abortion too then.
Channels such as Call Me Sam, Ray Williams, Alexander L, TullipR give the perspective of male regretters and detransitioners. They all left it, and identify it as a cult. So do we trans widows, the ex-wives of men who suddenly crossdress. For data on 57 of us and growing, channel in the handle just above right here.
I've heard Richie Heron (TulipR) and I found Alexander L's channel recently. Thanks for the other recommendations 👍🏼
Andrew you are AWESOME! ❤. I’m a woman, I don’t care that two guys are talking about this. I’m just glad someone is talking about this. Everyone is thinking what you’re saying. At least people with common sense. ❤
Stop policing what people do with their bodies.
@@azkadeliaray521 you can do what you want with your body, but if it in cringes on other peoples rights such as girls who are uncomfortable with a man changing the locker room. That’s not ok. You have your right to change somewhere else. If you’re a man who is trans going into a public restroom where little girls use. NO! pedophiles are now using the excuse that they’re trans to get close to little girls. You can’t tell whether they are straight or whether they are trans who is going to try and molest or kidnap and kill a little one. So NO! Would you want you child to be in these situations? Make a trans girls and boys their own place. Too many trans kids are getting killed over their choices. Too many girls being raped by trans boys in the girls restrooms. Honestly I don’t think you should be told what to do with your body, but it’s dangerous for everyone. I have a friend whose daughter transitioned. She became a man. Just because she became the person she felt she was. He was murdered. My friend loved her only child, she was with him , and supported him at every stage in his life. She accepted him. She loved her child unconditionally. As parents we grieve the child we lost. We love who they become. My friend did all of that, and had to grieve his death. The men who murdered him will never be held accountable. That’s what the mother was told. 🥺😡
Be what ya want to be just leave the kids alone and don't force this ideology down our throats
And stay out of women’s only spaces and sports.
Yet they are without parents knowing
@m5sunflower665 unfortunately yes 😔
@@davidhopkins848 Why are you trying to ban adults doing it then? That's what these guys want.
@@azkadeliaray521 did you not read what I put up properly?
Travis, pointing out a certain therapist is not able to spot an obvious abuser (or she's not willing to), is not a random little difference detail. It's rather crucial when it comes to safety of women and children. I am not going to call some depraved narcissist a 'she', just to avoid a conflict. He is crossing boundaries, he enjoys it and all he needs is women being cowered that's how he gets his high jinks. There are no nice or less nice versions of sex impersonators- they're either perverse or completely mad- all potentially dangerous.
well said.
I thought most trans woman were confused gay men? How are they suddenly a threat to women?
Regarding the policing of pronouns, it’s because using chosen pronouns obfuscates reality and makes the communication process less effective. It’s not about being dogmatic or disrespectful, it’s about the importance of speaking clearly.
It also hugely matters to women's and children's safety, and everyone's sanity.
Unfortunately men are more likely to be sexual predators, so it's important for reasons of safety to not put men in certain places where they could be a threat, such as women's bathrooms.
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It's abusive to attempt to dictate speech to a person you just met. It's about power and control -- not being "nice." The way people interact in a culture is negotiated. That's something you're supposed to learn as a toddler. Also, real transexuals are horrified by this constant sh*tshow. They want to quietly blend in and pass as the opposite sex. These activists are mostly cross dressers, self-described queer/nonbinary/gender fluid performance artists that want to "queer" the culture. It's a subversive subculture that uses real transexuals as cover.
If you wanted to point out a passing trans woman to a friend and said "that man over there", that would actually hinder communication. It's dogmatic to insist that only your preferred way of using pronouns is clearer in all cases.
@@razzle_dazzle most transwomen don’t pass, but if that were the case, it makes no difference. If I say “she’s going to join your daughter’s swimming team and use the changing room” when talking about a male, that’s dangerous and deceptive, even if the man passes as the opposite sex.
Another brilliant topic, Andrew. Thanks for covering the stuff we’re all discussing in private but no one likes to do content about.
There is plenty of content on CZcams and Twitte about this particular issue, and some of it is even done by women...
I spend entire days watching scholars and feminists discuss this, mostly UK. The US is still too far up its own arse. They teach 2+2=5 here.
@@hydraxisfrimon9785Exactly. And by far one the best and most straight talking IMO is KJK. Also the brilliant Helen Joyce.
@@joce11 Why are you policing people's bodies?
9:40 That's the most frustrating part of this. The people who say gender and sex aren't the same thing use the two terms interchangeably all the time, which undermines any validity their argument might have.
The other thing I find baffling is that parents aren't allowed to protect their own kids from the life-long consequences of these unconscionable medical experiments. Nobody likes their own body when they're going through puberty. Getting through that is a key part of figuring out who you are and becoming a healthy, well adjusted adult. We need to support kids when they need it, but we also need to give them the time and space to work it out for themselves.
In my teens, I tried on all kinds of identities. My idea of who I was changed practically every week, and every time, I was sure I had found my "true" self. I'm able to laugh at old photos of myself today because, thankfully, none of those identities became permanent through hormones or body modification. Even if I had to live with nothing but the music I liked at 12 or 13, it would be terrible.
When I was a kid, my mom made the rules and I had to follow them. She told me when it was bedtime, and I just had to accept it. If she had let me decide when to go to bed and when to wake up, I would have never gotten up in time for school and she would have been criminally neglectful. She was the adult; she knew better than me that what I wanted in the moment was not necessarily the best thing for me, long term.
But now, if a kid says they're trans, the parents have no choice but to get them into the gender affirmation industrial complex, on the path to hormones, blockers, and irreversible, destructive body modification surgery with the goal of making them look a bit more like the opposite sex. But no surgery, no matter how good it is, will never succeed in making a male body into a fully functioning, normal female body or vice versa. A person born as a boy will never become a fully functioning, healthy woman, able to become pregnant, carry a baby to term and give birth. Nor will and a girl ever fully become a man, with the ability to inseminate a woman. Anyone who says anything different is either delusional or lying. Sex is not a social construct, it's biology. Claiming that there are no differences between men and women is harmful to everyone. You can mutilate bodies all you want, but no amount of surgery will ever make it possible to change a person's sex.
Thankfully, I never questioned whether or not I was a boy. But I was five years old, in kindergarten, the first time I had any inkling that I was different from the other boys. It was long before I knew what "sex" meant, or what being "gay" meant, or even that there was such a thing as being gay. I didn't come to accept it until I was 16, and it still took me into my late 20s to get over the shame and fully embrace being gay to the point where I wouldn't wish to be straight if I could today. Struggling with acceptance of myself all those years me all the more sure of who I am today. It was miserable, but I wouldn't want to change anything about my experience growing up.
I would never tell anyone that they are wrong about their own identity, but the adults and doctors who do these horrific things to kids should be in prison.
Same questions can be asked about young men and women undergoing dangerous surgeries to be more "attractive" to either same or opposite sex
Implants, liposuction, fillers etc, from a very young age
"Appearance is everything", may also influence ideas on gender identity too
I appear just like a woman/man, therefore I am
Great comment.
I couldn't agree more.
I don't agree with surgery simply to make a person more attractive, but there are massive differences between those and trans surgeries. One modifies the body by adding or reshaping something without effecting "function", the other removes functional parts of a body and replaces them with a faulty imititation of the opposite genders parts.
@@FallenRobot true
I'm really enjoying your new Heretics conversations, Andrew! So many interesting conversations and topics.
I am a 75 yearr old grandmother who 's daughter had two children and became severely mentally ill. She had many diagnoses. We raised the children from ages 8 mos and 2 after social services took them. The younger now an adult us transitioning. I am told it is a done deal. The older has not spoken with me for 2 years and was planning a double mastectomy.i do not know how to deal with this
I'm so sorry this is a terrible position to be in. You'll never stop loving that person.
So sorry to hear that. It's exactly why this "medical treatment" should be banned and not therapy to deal with how the issue came about. Stay strong.
We don't use precise language to describe the political spectrum The Far Left are not "progressive" and the Far Right are not "conservative"
That's a very good point about the far left and right. I'm going to remember this!
Surgical and medical resources are limited and we have waiting lists for life threatening conditions.
Transition surgery and medications should only be available when there are no waiting lists for other conditions.
My opinion only.
That was such a good impression of Jordan Peterson 😂
Reject new speak. Use language the way it’s meant to be, as specific possible so we can speak clearly again. Reject new speak and the rest of the bs will unravel. #justsaymen.
Hear, hear. Speaking truth would end this nonsense yet some people who claim to be GC are not. I can't help thinking that some GC people want to keep this clown car on the road for their own benefit.
I believe in holding the line and think if we don’t there are people who would take advantage. That’s sort of the point because if we say one man is a woman then we run the risk of making exceptions to others. This is too important a debate, a matter of law, and about the truth.
Society is inverting here. Civic society actually CAN tolerate differences and "aberrations" and abrogation of norms... given there is a sufficient stable, unmoving liberal core and infrastructure beneath it. The problem here is that culture is now taking these tiny, miniscule non-core, non-infrastructure issues and positing that they can be as ubiquitous as rain and as the norms they necessarily have to be stacked upon. They are in essence standing upon the shoulders of the broader project of normative society, with its more stable and easily palatable framework and then castigating it while occupying a place at its apex. This inability to recognize oneself as an EXTRA aesthetic to a lower-level and more stable civic society based on more ground-level norms and physics-based facts is truly "bonkers", as you say. You should not be able to both deify nature and abhor it, simultaneously. But of course "they" do.
Very well put. I’ve been wondering why it is that a cross-dresser is celebrated as brave and progressive yet the miracle of child birth is denigrated with language like womb-haver and chest-feeder. I’m not totally against the idea that non-conforming individuals can represent progress or spiritual truths, but if that requires trashing life sustaining traditions I cannot support it.
I disagree with him on pronoun usage.
I stick with reality. It's important to uphold reality. It's not about the individual's feelings, it's about demonstrating really to anyone who is watching. And kids, whose sense of reality is being formed, are watching.
The same goes for Stella O'Malley
So you must think it's okay to call people with Down syndrome retards, because it's technically accurate? In fact, let's tell someone if they have a huge nose while we're at it.
"I can hold two thoughts in my head at the same time." You can hold them, but you can't produce them. This very thing about holding two opposing thoughts in your head is Stella O'Malley'a idea. Q.E.D.
Watch Peter Boghossian's interview of Erin Friday. I was shocked by how callous he seemed to be about what age to allow surgery. It seemed like his empathy for people shuts off cold on their 18th birthday. Erin told about the anguish of parents as their children eagerly count down the days to their 18th birthday, then watch helplessly as they go through with it. He was unmoved. He said, sternly, you need to take personal responsibility sometime. (Meaning the kid, that is.) No matter what arguments she gave -- including that we have lots of different rules for different ages -- he kept repeating that we have one single universal age for everything. Even though obviously we don't.
It was bizarre.
He said that if this universal age should changed, then we should just go with that age. But meantime it was unrealistic to think about it. She said, in a friendly way, well, I'll try again to persuade you. He responded as though he wasn't really listening, and he moved on to something else.
Why are you policing what people can do with their bodies? Do you support cutting off little boys foreskins?
Andrew, I am very sorry, but I have to admit:
THIS IS MY FAVORITE OF YOUR TWO CHANNELS!
SORRY, SORRY, I KNOW YOU’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FAVORITE, BUT I DO!!!
Fxck, this second channel was such a great idea! Riveting stuff, man, riveting.
A big hello from a fan in Curaçao ❤
It's all driven my money. Trans is a gold mine for surgeons and pharmaceutical companies.
Isn’t it always?
So is abortion. Can we ban abortion?
@@azkadeliaray521 Sure. Why not?
Yes. It is all about money. For example when a college being led by the over ambitious who want their commuinity college to get promoted to university status sets up a career offfice where administrators there are in the habit of asking some students if they are gay while at the same time offering them 'special' for them grants. Only because for example they worked in a non-traditional paid gender role while not wanting to check off Miss or Mrs. or Ms. Something which can spark such a sized up white supremacist style controversy which includes more than one conspiracy theory to go along with the icky offers of 'compassion' with the string attached of having to change your basic identity too. Then that college can apply for more federal transfer payments for getting to offer fake compassion while being racist both at the same time. The conspiracty theories anyone who is in a life transition has to cope with now who has ever experienced 5 minutes of fame in this world for awhile is so annoying and frightening on the street too. A lot of high school students who are creative in nature are experiencing signs and symptoms of agoraphobia as result when only for example their parents are going through a divorce and so they are in a life transition as result. A lot of young people now complain they have no privacy anymore. At least they have the right to be aware of that in todays world. Unlike what us baby boomers had to go through anytime we did not obtain approval from both sets of parents first before starting to date someone when past the age of 16.
Many women have felt gaslighted, and have cognitive dissonance, over this issue, and even the UN has spoken out against discrimination against women, yet America does Nothing. It’s crazy that in an election year he’d play politics with women’s lives and safety, eg. Title 9. Enraged doesn’t even begin to cover it. 😡
I've tried to get a response from current administration over the white house picnic held to celebrate TRANS & Biden said "I love the Trans, cause they fight back." Fight back against who or what? They embarrassed the nation with antics & minimizing women. I was stunned. He & Newsom both thought it was really fair to force women to endure a trans guy doing medical things to us, & hospital staff are fired if they don't go along with Trans BS. I have not gotten one response from media or WH about 1% do not own 52% & give us our rights back.
The UN has just appointed a man as a spokesman for women, and the UN also states than "trans" lesbians are lesbians.
I'm a woman and disagree. Bye.
This channel feels like a safe space for centrists. Thanks for everything Andrew. We love ya man. ❤
Thank you Andrew on educating us and for having these difficult conversations. I think somewhere along the line we've lost some common sense too. Gender is male or female. You cannot change your biology.
Who is this bloke? Why is a random podcaster being treated like an expert in this field. Would be great to see you have a chat with Hannah Barnes, Abigail Shriner & Stephanie Davis Arai who have been researching & speaking out on this subject for years.
He's a filmmaker. Check out The Signal for a selection of his excellent work. He has been researching and speaking out on this and related subjects for years.
I mean, he's a man and those are women, so obviously he knows better.
I don't have a podcast.
Kathleen Stock, Karen Ingala-Smith…
As an Italian proof-reader I am beginning to struggle against these new freaking gender rules. In my language 80% of the words ARE BINARY! Articles. Nouns. Adjectives. Past participles. Same thing happens with a lot of other languages in the world. Italian has even got RID of neutral gender which was present in latin, but now a new letter of the alphabet has been invented to neutralizze grammatical gender to not "offend" anyone ! In many cases you are pushed to replace gender oriented desinences with a neutral "*".
George Orwell wrote something about this appalling process....
Why topic gender? It affects our families today. Our children. It affects poor or Incarcerated women. Food and used clothing for homeless women in Hamburg sometimes go to transvestite men. It was not an issue for most persons in the West, when I was young it was not a thing, boys went to the boys room and not the girls room. Men did not box women. In Germany, in a number of public schools boys may go into the girls bathrooms, meaning be secluded with a girl. Some day care places in Germany (one in Hamburg) funded by the government encourage toddlers to kindergarten age kids to play doctor, touch each others genitals, m*sterbate and so on. I would have never thought of such a things being encouraged in daycare, but in Germany some day cares have been doing so and taxpayers are to pay for it.
What the actual phuk 😱
I love the Heretics series i came across your channel recently out of nowhere,and im really impressed with the interesting guests and topics you cover.....We need more brave people like this gentleman and previous guests telling the truth around the current madness clown world we are living in .....Thank you and Bless up...
Let kids be kids. Simple enough?
I agree with Andrew, that at a certain age, people can choose to alter their bodies surgically. I don’t agree that people on group insurance or a public healthcare option should have these surgeries paid for completely or partially. Surgeons are scheduling 20+ different surgeries in 6 months for some of their patients. It is obscene. Plastic surgery is private pay in the US. I don’t know about other countries with a public health system. There is no way the taxpayer or the people who pay premiums for health insurance should have to pay for this stuff.
Yes this is about the children
Are we awake now 🕊
Mumma bears are getting angry
The “mothers” who go along with this are themselves the problem
The narcissistic look at me type
Leave the children alone
This will not end well
A generation of sterilised unable to have children …..🕊🙏🏻🕊
According to a documentary I watched both the twins suicided. It was one of the most heartbreaking stories I've encountered.
Absolutely wonderful guest and brilliant interview .Im ashamed to saý that John Money was a New Zealander , ( a fellow countryman of mine , but I unequivocally denounce him as Kiwi )
His dubious " experiments " with real peoples lives were catastrophic, not only did the twin David kill himself , but his twin brother was profoundly negatively affected too& I believe he took his own life also.
Absolutely tragic , I feel so very sad for his poor Canadian parents who really didnt have a say after the circumsicion gone wrong .
Dr Money peddled pseudo science .UGH ! WHAT A CREEP !
People seem to be under the false belief that people in healthcare are all ethical. This trans issue is providing years of funding for studies and the pharmaceutical industry.
This is true. Tons of healthcare isn't at all the best interest for people on an individual basis. I was encouraged to get a labiaplasty at 18 and it should be ILLEGAL. i also feel circumcision should be ostracized. There is so much awful medical junk that is not at ALL for the best of people's interest, and just causes harm.
@@WatermelonPeppermint Yeah cutting the tips off the younglings, what the fuck is that about?
@@rgghjs9270 Insanity, that's all.
@@WatermelonPeppermint I'm surprised it doesn't get more attention. They can't even speak and they're having their bodies modified. Yet when I try and get answers about sex and gender from a biologist I get told I'm in a cult lol..
This is so true. So many absolutly dr Mengele like horrific medical practitioners even today in plain sight. We need to stop trusting the medical field blindly and uncritical.
Thank you ! It is a relief hearing two sensitive articulate and realists people speak. I need to hear these voices to have a speck of trust in humans at this point when we have come to a place of collective insanity what gender ideology is concerned !
its not just that people coming from religious backgrounds “go the other way” and become woke extremists as a reaction - its more that they are still subscribing to an evangelical mode of thought that they’ve never overcome with critical thinking
Looking forward to it!
The brain has its own form of "muscle memory." Things we do become habits we must do, and then we become a mass of all the things we've done ...
Thank you for a very thought-provoking episode.
Great episode, Andrew.
I really don’t get this, it’s seems as though a group of people have decided to create these different genders/sex and sell them to the world and we should all go along with it because a tiny percentage of people are unhappy due to not getting their own way.
Trans people don't create a different sex. They just want to be called a she/he.
Hold The Line. ALWAYS. No exceptions.
Originally the word Gender became a mainstream word as a polite way of talking about sex, for example, on forms.
Cool seeing two content creators I’ve been following for years chatting with each other ❤
Fantastic interview
Great interview. Love the intelligent interviews.
I am a woman,I want men to talk about this. I also want men to stand up and support us.
You're not oppressed.
Thanks
Just started watching. It's a good discussion - thank you both.
Having autism and having suffered greatly entering puberty, therapy isn't necessarily going to help, particularly as so few therapists are actually qualified to work with autistic people.
Sometimes you have to accept there is no solution, except perhaps time, and learning to accept something you dislike. Life is not fair, and often it's extremely painful. Better for parents to be realistic about this and truthful with their kids, than pandering to a dilusion. If the kid genuinely has gender dysphoria in addition to autism, better they deal with it in their early twenties when physically and mentally mature. At that age the shock of puberty has passed, and the decision is based on rational thought over several years than short term panic.
I would have done anything to stop puberty, and I pleaded for a hysterectomy in my teens. If I was a kid today I'd have identified as trans in a heartbeat in order to stop puberty. Not to be a man, but to stop the agony of becoming a woman. I was extremely uncomfortable with the social changes and attention from men, plus the pain from periods. I would have mistakenly thought a short term fix would be the answer to my problems, allowing me to keep being a child, not understanding the massive additional problems that would result from being an abnormally childlike adult. Of course this would have been far worse socially than being a normal, nothing unusual to see here woman.
I was always a tomboy but I never wanted to be an actual boy. I loved my athletic body and all of my sports. All I really wanted were the obvious privileges boys had in those days. I mean who wants to stay inside and help their granny with housework(!) when the boys could go outside and play? I hated home economics and resented being forced to study it at school, rather than woodwork or extra sports which were the boy's options, which I would have enjoyed.
Luckily my mother told me stopping puberty was impossible. That's it. No discussion. I never wanted kids and indeed never had kids, but irrespective if I had been able to have a hysterectomy or these days become trans, it would have been a total disaster and completely wrong for me. I really enjoyed being a woman and what that entails and after menopause I still do, even though for me being a woman never involved make up, having nails done etc.
I'm very sad for those autistic kids who are given the option to be trans, and in so doing make a massive mistake, losing their fertility and potentially a whole host of lifelong medical problems, not to mention worse social problems.
If this guy can’t verbalize succinctly the Reiner boys and what John money did right out of the gate ughhhhh. It’s a very important story
I wonder if he can redeem himself .
I thought he did explain it succinctly. The molestation is horrible, but it's not relevant to this, so it makes sense to leave it out. The point to be made here was that Money started the stupid idea of using the word "gender" in a new way.
@@VesnaVK The money story is very important. He was funded by John hopkins. His research was determined to be a success and academia was changed .
Both brothers expired as a direct result. What happened to the parents , and how they manipulated them is very important.as well . The very standard of care
And the conclusions are based on a lie . ( he did molest them as well , and had them on each other.). The story is so horrific and sad. But the problem now is that they are using his conclusions today . He is the pioneer of this research . I think that’s very important in the study of this subject . Thank you so much for commenting on my comment.
Another great interview. Thought provoking and good conversation as always.
dude you are fucking killing it. when I first started following you, you were talking about religions. and now you're talking about my FAVORITE SUBJECT! thank you so much for doing this work. You are fantastic!
2 of my favorite creators! Excellent interview. Thanks so much.
the terrorist analogy is a silly one. a single TRA nutcase can't do very much damage, and you wouldn't say to a terrorist "ok, we'll give you 10% Sharia Law". so that's why KJK and others say Hold The Line. we don't actually NEED to convince any of the TRA zealots, because most people are already on the GC side. as Helen Joyce points out, you just need to ask the questions in a way that people understand.
Most people are okay with trans people actually. You're in the minority of wanting to ban them or insult them. Helen Joiyce is against bodily autonomy.
I love and appreciate all the people you bring on! Thanks for not being scared to speak the truth.
Very interresting when it comes to autism and the likelyhood of falling for cults,of different kinds,including the woke one.People on the autism spectrum need to have routines to feel safe,and obsess over things,and do and listen to things over and over makes them a target to this kind of invironment.Also the black and white thinking and spesific topic to talk about with same kind people makes the sosial life better.But that is why so many of them fall for that now with the internet to find each other.
Fabulous discussion
Bravissimo
Great conversation! Important topic. Glad you're taking the risks and pursuing these conversations, Andrew. Good on you.
Andrew thank you so much for having these conversations 👍🏼
Never heard of this guy before but he obviously comes from a very knowledgeable place and speaks intelligently. Great episode.
Oh, good! Interesting topic. Thanks
Can we just talk about this idea that “adults should be able to do what they want” for a second? No, they shouldn’t. Not when it involves someone else performing surgery. We need much stronger scrutiny on doctors and what surgeries they’re performing for people under this banner of them wanting it. It’s easy to say that a man should be able to cut his testicles off and invert his penis if he wants to, because we live in a messed up zeitgeist, but so many people recognise this as barbaric nonsense when it’s someone wanting their legs cut off because they feel they should have been born with them, or intentionally blinding someone because they feel they should have been born blind. Please wake up.
Great, so we'll ban abortion too then.
Thank you for publising this video. I wish more people had the courage to push against the bullies like the people on the above video. Now I feel safe enough to not feel afraid whenever someone says the word transitioning in any context while being classified among the DSD now only because I haven't gone back to any of my exes or coupled up with someone else according to the expected elite discourse time schedule prescribed concerning that sort of thing for so many of us when being percieved as still young enough to copulate in order to make it easier for them to pay the rent, have a better chance of being hired in a good job, etc.I was told by a woman who was a lot younger than me that time schedule is 3 years to find another one or go back. Go back or else.There are so many other kinds of abuse which supports what I call malignant sexism which in its worst form demands that someone be so controlled from birth to death from fashion to how they must look from head to toe during work, school and play too and so in the most extreme form a child cannot even have on their mother's ultrasound and/or at birth an anomoly which according to them means they would not be the perfect looking enough scapegoat for an arranged marriage. The worst form of that is not circumsision of male infants because sometimes that medical proceedure does have to be done for legitiagmate medical reasons for a normal child. The worst forn of gender surgery next to offering surgery which is not necessary for physical health is called female circumsision which is a kind of punishment ahead of time for being a female human being. Another kind of sexism is psychological abuse too. For example threatening that if anyone in the family ever seeks advice from a lawyer about a failing marriage then they will become their mortal enemy while knowing so much about how to win that battle. Judith Butler sounds like the worst example of psychological sexist abuse. Another example which borders on being psychological sexist abuse is when a whole community shames another community for their dance traditions and for their body language too which looks different than theirs. As if they need to be supervised during recreation and play always for being inferior according to them.
Andrew, you’re knocking it out of the park with these interviews. Good on ya!
Great interview, Andrew. I'll say it again (and again), I keep waiting for someone on "our side" to interview James Bennett - after I read his Economist article "When the New York Times lost its way," I thought, vow, my "far right friends" are going to tear into this! Nothing. Except for one discussion, by Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal on Blocked & Reported. Don't know if he doesn't want to be interviewed, one'd think not. It's such an important article; the NYT used to be the world's greatest newspaper! Now it's a social justice propaganda rag! I can't IMAGINE throwing away public trust that's taken a century and a half to build. Then, of course the most respected of the professions, medicine, has done the same, sacrificed its reputation and public trust at the altar of this insane gender ideology cult, which debases everything it touches.
Wow! I just came across this article a couple of days ago. Then I listened to the B&R episode. It's great! Did you hear Katie's interview with Andy Mills? BTW KH was on Andrew's other channel two years ago.