To me, the main selling point of SMT II is that it's probably the best out of the Super Famicom Trilogy, particularly because of the QoL improvements (*cough* map *cough*) compared to the first game. That's just me though.
You know what's terrible is the amount of backtracking in SMT2! Though the different routes in it are very interesting! EDIT: You always gotta make sure you give back the invisibility robe you get from the goddess who was bathing for a bonus, don't be mean and steal people's clothes who are bathing 😅
this is my favourite smt game. the music slaps, the story is miles ahead smt 1 and it's just right on the difficulty sense. sometimes it's a bit hard to figure out what to do but otherwise it's awesome.
I love both smt1 and 2; Also difficulty spikes can be avoided/cheese if you grind for gems; Not only will it help with macca/mag but also the gems give great stat boosts and there is a lot of places in the overworld that has enemies that drop them often.
Running out of magnetite? *Laughs in not summoning any demons* Wel almost When you mentioned the difficulty spikes, I thought that you would mention lucifer. I can't be the only one who had to keep reloading until he decided not to spam charm...
Other team building exercise: Pizza Party. SMT developer team building exorcise: Visit holy shrines to cleanse ourselves of demonic spirits from making our game.
I think the missing charm may have to do with the quality of the music. The music was just more catchy and remember while SMTII ost (while good) falls a little flat when comparing the both.
So thanks to this video I got my shit together after my failed attempt to play smt 1 years ago and fired up that emulator on my 3ds It's actually quite fun but I also was surprised to find out there's: A translation of the gba version of 1 and Spanish translations of both 1 and 2,that really surprised me
Not to rain on your parade but...Persona 2 never got a full western release even though we got Innocent Sin remade on PSP. They didn't bother with localizing the actual remake of Eternal Punishment. I can't imagine SMT 2 getting a localized release after it was remade twice and ported to several other platforms with nothing for western players. Would love to see it happen but this is Atlus we are talking about. The company that ported P4G to only Steam despite PS4 having a lot of the legacy fanbase from the PS2 originals and PS3 ports of 3 and 4 and a built in audience due to P4 dancing being on PS4, plus all the people who came in with 5 and Royal. The company that put Joker in Smash but has yet to put a proper Persona game on Switch. Despite having the actual sequel to P5 on Switch. If the cash cow of Persona gets that half assed treatment, what hope does mainline SMT have with the older titles?
@@zeroattentiongaming820 The worst one is SMT 1 a game with a full english translation, locked to an unplyable version on and old version of IOS, and they dont just put it on console and charge a few dollars for it
@@Ratta212 So I don't want to link it myself because I'd rather avoid any potential legal issues but I was able to find an English patched SMT 2 rom pretty quickly on Google. I know there's also a patched SMT 1 out there too as I got it ages ago.
@@zeroattentiongaming820i think we should hope about an official translation (on a playable console or pc) of smt 1 and 2, we got official spanish translation for persona 5 royale and strikers and smt 3 nocturne so, maybe, just maaaaybe atlus doesnt hate making money anymore
My history with SMT 2 is pretty strange as I ended up playing it before the fan favorite Nocturne and was only my second megaten game overall. That said I really enjoyed it once I got over the culture shock of 1st person view and magnetite. I got through this game well enough and still haven't finished SMT 1 so take that as you will.
I have already been sold on SMT2 for a really long while now and plan on trying that as soon as I'm finished with my Aeon Genesis translated version of SMT1. Now I dare you to try and sell me on SMT if...!
Minor nitpick, but you mention alignment-locked equipment and demons as being new to SMT2, but SMT1 had the same system in place. It actually became a bit of a nuisance toward the end for my playthrough, as I had a couple Law demons as my main healing source, but wound up taking the Chaos path.
I'm playing through smt1 right now and there are definitely alignment based equipment and you need to be the propper alignment to summon a demon, this wasn't new to 2. Or maybe it changed with the orden patch, since I'm not using it
@@toryficarola y'know, even if i find ff2's dungeons to be trashy and the story to be on the bland side,the midgame-endgame was surprisingly fun to play, if at least better than ff3's
Experienced glitches on the final boss. . There’s also a bug where if you buff a character that has higher stats it WILL wrap around making you weaker. . A great game nonetheless. . .
I have no reason for why this is but I always imagined Hawke/Aleph is/was the child of Mr. Thriller and Gabriel. Human sperm and an angel's egg (hehe) coming together (oh my~!) to create new life. My reasoning? Aleph's hair is the most Micheal Jackson I've seen in forever.
That final fantasy analogy is pretty ridiculous lol. It took ff7 selling 14 million units before we got other old school final fantasies. And that was bc it was the best selling game of its era. Just because there both JRPG series doesn’t mean there comparable mate 🤣.
Well, I lost all interest in your opinion when y'all stated that final fantasy 3 was garbage. Look at the year it came out and how much more it did than anything else on 8 bit even came close to. Just later ff games stole from it so much it does not feel unique anymore, and that is in no way it's fault. Famicom FF III was a near masterpiece. SMT 2 is great, but overhyped because of it's rarity by kotaku boys. Like when gamefaqs had a rating system and fan translated only games were all given 5 stars by people who felt cool and special because they were "in the know" for getting to play them.
You know, i just got into Persona with the switch port of 5R. Why not do a selling you on Persona, from the point of view of a mainline fan? Before Persona I was very much a mainline elitist, hell SMT V is probably the most time I've put into a non Pokemon or Fallout RPG. I love the overall vibe and creatures of MegaTen but the social sim elements where a put off. But now with 5R on Switch I just can't stop playing, I was so wrong to write off this subseries.
Who was the guy that called FF3 garbage? That game runs laps around this game in literally every aspect except for the conceptual idea for a plot. SMT 2 is cool, but let’s not pretend that it’s not some horrible antiquated, clunky, game that has a cool idea for a story in theory. I’m not even referring to the remake of 3, but the actual NES version.
I guess a young guy like him does not understand all the Influences, artistic elements and design choices marrying into purpose that went onto this game. He is over burdened by modernity and did not fully experience the contrast at that time. Even through explaination someone today won't understand the art of the first phantasy star, for example. It would be as hard as "showing" what the 80's were, or pointing out how specific frustrations and or doubt or unfillment are specific tells to 70's 80's or 90's scifi. Or even how stylistic choices to restrict progress or speed of play or limiting elements with resource requirements could scratch certain itches. Remember what poor "crafting systems" or weaksauce retro art did in the early 2010's on account of people just not "getting it?" You don't get it unless you were their at the time and it played to tastes that were developed by all the other content (and their limits) at the time.
I love Obama, he's my favourite character from Shin Megami Tensei II on the Super Famicom!
Obama has accomplished so much, I understand why my parents renamed me to Dissappointment 2
If you look closely he actually looks like Obama (the president).
i played through smt 2 and didn't see this guy where was he?
So the dev team visit shrines because they know that their game is too demonic...That's terrifying.
Praying to demons for protection from demons. Ironic.
What if Macca wasn’t really Macca. What if he really is just a Jack Frost who named himself Macca.
we need a face reveal now
This video will remain relevant longer than stadia ❤️ thanks for having me on macca
Nice video spunt
Thank you Star-Spangler.
You right, Cerly~!
Longer than what?
@@brotbrotsen1100 I think it's called stoodia or something
If you need a third for SMT if... let me know. But Marsh he really knows that game inside and out.
HELLO SMT2 I WILL SOMEDAY PLAY YOU
Because of this majestic man right here.
20 hours ago!? Dude what the fuck
@@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841 He is very dedicated
how the fuck did you write this 21 hours ago
To me, the main selling point of SMT II is that it's probably the best out of the Super Famicom Trilogy, particularly because of the QoL improvements (*cough* map *cough*) compared to the first game. That's just me though.
Honestly, with 2022 being 30 anniversary for SMT, if SMTV do actually good in west we may hear about official translation or even fully blown remakes
Right as I watched the first Selling you on this morning, what a fuckin legend
You know what's terrible is the amount of backtracking in SMT2! Though the different routes in it are very interesting! EDIT: You always gotta make sure you give back the invisibility robe you get from the goddess who was bathing for a bonus, don't be mean and steal people's clothes who are bathing 😅
It's time boys let's go
SMT II is pretty awesome and really different in a lot of ways compared to SMT I
this is my favourite smt game. the music slaps, the story is miles ahead smt 1 and it's just right on the difficulty sense. sometimes it's a bit hard to figure out what to do but otherwise it's awesome.
Great video! Didn’t need the FF3 slander though 😤😤
I love both smt1 and 2; Also difficulty spikes can be avoided/cheese if you grind for gems; Not only will it help with macca/mag but also the gems give great stat boosts and there is a lot of places in the overworld that has enemies that drop them often.
Smt 2 is my favorite game of all time. I am so glad that somebody is willing to talk about it.
hello macca
sup dad!?
Who the fook are you?
Macca Frost is back with another quality video ^^
LOL come Obama waits for you lmao. That part 6:47 had me laughing.
Running out of magnetite? *Laughs in not summoning any demons* Wel almost
When you mentioned the difficulty spikes, I thought that you would mention lucifer. I can't be the only one who had to keep reloading until he decided not to spam charm...
Final Fantasy 3 isn't nowhere near garbage tho ;____; the job system was great
Rng bullshit and not saving on dungeons
Other team building exercise: Pizza Party.
SMT developer team building exorcise: Visit holy shrines to cleanse ourselves of demonic spirits from making our game.
that thumbnail is beautiful
Started playing SMT 2 while watching this and thanks to this video looking forward to it a ton more now
I think the missing charm may have to do with the quality of the music. The music was just more catchy and remember while SMTII ost (while good) falls a little flat when comparing the both.
I kinda like the atmosphere and story of smt 1 more than 2 even tho objectively smt 2 is a better game in terms of gameplay and QoL improvements
I played this game so much one day that I got eye strain and puked.
10/10.
17:00 HEY HEY HEY!! CAREFUL with the SPOILERS, Macca! D:
So thanks to this video I got my shit together after my failed attempt to play smt 1 years ago and fired up that emulator on my 3ds
It's actually quite fun but I also was surprised to find out there's:
A translation of the gba version of 1 and Spanish translations of both 1 and 2,that really surprised me
Okay, you won. One more channel in the list of subscriptions.
SMT x Persona Arena would be awesome fighting game
If Fire Emblem 1 came out to the West after years of not being localized. I have hope SMT II will eventually come to the West officially also.
Not to rain on your parade but...Persona 2 never got a full western release even though we got Innocent Sin remade on PSP. They didn't bother with localizing the actual remake of Eternal Punishment.
I can't imagine SMT 2 getting a localized release after it was remade twice and ported to several other platforms with nothing for western players. Would love to see it happen but this is Atlus we are talking about.
The company that ported P4G to only Steam despite PS4 having a lot of the legacy fanbase from the PS2 originals and PS3 ports of 3 and 4 and a built in audience due to P4 dancing being on PS4, plus all the people who came in with 5 and Royal. The company that put Joker in Smash but has yet to put a proper Persona game on Switch. Despite having the actual sequel to P5 on Switch.
If the cash cow of Persona gets that half assed treatment, what hope does mainline SMT have with the older titles?
@@zeroattentiongaming820 The worst one is SMT 1 a game with a full english translation, locked to an unplyable version on and old version of IOS, and they dont just put it on console and charge a few dollars for it
@@Ratta212 The amount of money Atlus is leaving on the table is just insane
@@Ratta212 So I don't want to link it myself because I'd rather avoid any potential legal issues but I was able to find an English patched SMT 2 rom pretty quickly on Google. I know there's also a patched SMT 1 out there too as I got it ages ago.
@@zeroattentiongaming820i think we should hope about an official translation (on a playable console or pc) of smt 1 and 2, we got official spanish translation for persona 5 royale and strikers and smt 3 nocturne so, maybe, just maaaaybe atlus doesnt hate making money anymore
6:02 nice name
In the spanish patch made in 2012, they fixed the names.
So then... GG.
Good video btw.
You kill God at the end.
My history with SMT 2 is pretty strange as I ended up playing it before the fan favorite Nocturne and was only my second megaten game overall. That said I really enjoyed it once I got over the culture shock of 1st person view and magnetite. I got through this game well enough and still haven't finished SMT 1 so take that as you will.
Hello there Macca
I have already been sold on SMT2 for a really long while now and plan on trying that as soon as I'm finished with my Aeon Genesis translated version of SMT1. Now I dare you to try and sell me on SMT if...!
Minor nitpick, but you mention alignment-locked equipment and demons as being new to SMT2, but SMT1 had the same system in place. It actually became a bit of a nuisance toward the end for my playthrough, as I had a couple Law demons as my main healing source, but wound up taking the Chaos path.
Oh really? My bad, I guess I never noticed since I've always done neutral playthroughs of SMT1.
I assume smt2 was never localized because they fear the mess of releasing a game where the final boss is literally God
And you play as a Jesus and Maria, siding with Lucifer /Satan to kill God.
I love SMT II, but Final Fantasy 3 is fucking great and I WILL fight Spencer on this
as someone who just tried the pixel remasters of 2 and 3, yeah 3 is fun. 2 on the other hand, naw
You forgot to mention that it's the first game to have skill inheritance (at least as far as mainlines go).
15:18 What the heck game is this!? If I'm not mistaken, SMT2 doesn't have a side-scrolling genre shifting side quest that looks like that. :P
Can you link the name patch for SMT2?
Better than localizing it : REMAKE BOTH IN 1 60 DEAL, The exact same game, but HD graphics and optional easy mode
I just want Atlus to launch their games on Steam, so I'll be happy
I'm playing through smt1 right now and there are definitely alignment based equipment and you need to be the propper alignment to summon a demon, this wasn't new to 2. Or maybe it changed with the orden patch, since I'm not using it
I love how clean the game looks. What version is this captured from? Ps love the vid
Sorry for the late reply
I used the SNES version in Emuhawk. Recorded it with OBS stream labs.
Jionga sounds dope!
Did this guy just say that the most important Final Fantasy game: Final Fantasy III is garbage?
Why the hell hasn't Atlus fixed the fact this doesn't have a western release? It blows my damned mind!! Welp, I guess I'll emulate it. Sadness. 😢
I wish I could play the gba versions of 1 & 2
You can play the GBA version of 1, it is english translated. I played it and it's really good.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he said i need someone to break it down to its essentials oh man its been a minute since i laughed so hard
nice work, i love that i found your channel
15:43 wait, they had vr battles since smt 2? Say no more, I'll download it right this moment.
Spoonch
10:12, the best part of this video i'love it
Yo , what was that about ff3!?
Got a little irked when he misspoke there and accidentally referred to FF2 as FF3. At least I hope that was a blooper or mistake. >:|
@@toryficarola y'know, even if i find ff2's dungeons to be trashy and the story to be on the bland side,the midgame-endgame was surprisingly fun to play, if at least better than ff3's
@@GuyParson kinda agree however I only found FF3's endgame and last few dungeons to be bad.
@@toryficarola ff3's last dungeons really feels like a fuck you to people who played whitout specializing their characters, or didnt get a ninja
All these games deserve to get remakes, remasters, or at least direct ports.
Experienced glitches on the final boss.
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There’s also a bug where if you buff a character that has higher stats it WILL wrap around making you weaker.
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A great game nonetheless.
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What if I nerf a really weak character? Will his stats loop around to top-notch boffo specs?
Is there any way you could post that patch somewhere?
Selling you on SMT if when 👀👀👀👀
I'm pretty sure SMT2 also told you your alignment with the world map icon, I do remember that.
No it doesn't, it always spins the same way no matter what
@@michellewade7346 It does spin, I was playing it a while ago.
@@Crok425 Ik that, but it always spins in the same direction, it never changes to reflect your alignment
@@michellewade7346 nvm, checking online says that it doesn't... weird... I always remembered that it did.
@@Crok425 it's alright, than you for admitting you were wrong
"Super Mario World not listed as one of the best games on the Super Famicom/SNES"
SMW: "And I took that personally"
But Sponge really should read chainsaw man
I feel really bad that I can’t enjoy the grid movement 😔 I liked SMT2 but I had to force myself to play it
The Abyss
So Atlus really like Masadado huh?
OLEEEE nice job 🌠🌠✨
I have no reason for why this is but I always imagined Hawke/Aleph is/was the child of Mr. Thriller and Gabriel. Human sperm and an angel's egg (hehe) coming together (oh my~!) to create new life. My reasoning? Aleph's hair is the most Micheal Jackson I've seen in forever.
That final fantasy analogy is pretty ridiculous lol. It took ff7 selling 14 million units before we got other old school final fantasies. And that was bc it was the best selling game of its era. Just because there both JRPG series doesn’t mean there comparable mate 🤣.
#justacommentofappreciation
Unless you are are into torture, stay away. Me I’m a mashochist, let me do my 5th playthrough .
Any tips on finding the best patch? I would love to play this with the best translation possible.
What is the song played in 9:29? sounds really cool
So, weird question, why do you pronounce it as [why-aech-vee-aech] and not [Yah-way]? Is it a CZcams thing?
Its a sin for jewish people
WAAAIT
Why not upload the patch for the names if you have it?
D A N C E !
Stephen? in a Wheelchair?
Hawk?
Why does this game make a reference to Stephen Hawking?
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Wow, I thought all smt games were 3d. Guess I can play it now.
POLTATO PC!!!
yayyy
i love your art btw
Well, I lost all interest in your opinion when y'all stated that final fantasy 3 was garbage. Look at the year it came out and how much more it did than anything else on 8 bit even came close to. Just later ff games stole from it so much it does not feel unique anymore, and that is in no way it's fault. Famicom FF III was a near masterpiece. SMT 2 is great, but overhyped because of it's rarity by kotaku boys. Like when gamefaqs had a rating system and fan translated only games were all given 5 stars by people who felt cool and special because they were "in the know" for getting to play them.
You know, i just got into Persona with the switch port of 5R. Why not do a selling you on Persona, from the point of view of a mainline fan?
Before Persona I was very much a mainline elitist, hell SMT V is probably the most time I've put into a non Pokemon or Fallout RPG. I love the overall vibe and creatures of MegaTen but the social sim elements where a put off. But now with 5R on Switch I just can't stop playing, I was so wrong to write off this subseries.
...what translation patch had ""Gionga"?
Zionga?
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 no "Gionga" like in the video.
I know of the Zionga translation
“Jionga”
You said aleph wrong
You said your mom's name wrong
Who was the guy that called FF3 garbage? That game runs laps around this game in literally every aspect except for the conceptual idea for a plot. SMT 2 is cool, but let’s not pretend that it’s not some horrible antiquated, clunky, game that has a cool idea for a story in theory. I’m not even referring to the remake of 3, but the actual NES version.
Which FF3? The ACTUAL third FF game or the misnumbered FFVI?
@@edboy5418 pretty obvious he is talking about actual III. It def was an idiotic thing to say, III is not garbage
GET TO THE POINT
I guess a young guy like him does not understand all the
Influences, artistic elements and design choices marrying into purpose that went onto this game. He is over burdened by modernity and did not fully experience the contrast at that time. Even through explaination someone today won't understand the art of the first phantasy star, for example. It would be as hard as "showing" what the 80's were, or pointing out how specific frustrations and or doubt or unfillment are specific tells to 70's 80's or 90's scifi. Or even how stylistic choices to restrict progress or speed of play or limiting elements with resource requirements could scratch certain itches. Remember what poor "crafting systems" or weaksauce retro art did in the early 2010's on account of people just not "getting it?" You don't get it unless you were their at the time and it played to tastes that were developed by all the other content (and their limits) at the time.
100th comment lets fucking GO
Hard disagree with pretty much everything said in the video. SMT2 is hot garbage.
Spoonch