Why a Mario Sluggers batting tier list is IMPOSSIBLE
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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2024
- Definitely a challenge to rank all the hitters, even just the top 10! Comment below who you think are the best and worst hitters!
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This is the first time i heard this game had a competitive scene lol
Nice to see you guys upload again. Eevee here, and last night I was just playing this game again when Yellow Magikoopa scored a 2-run homer and won me the game. It was mind-boggling that such an average batting-stat resulted in a W
Yeah magikoopa has awful power but medium trajectory so he hits more homeruns than you may expect!
Man, I wish Nintendo would do a switch version of this game. So many possibilities example: Rosalina can be a captain also add guest charactes like Villager, Inklings, Link, etc. They could add Lumas to play. Fix Diddy chemistry with the miis.
pearl and marina as captains tbh
They might do the “free dlc” updates crap and just disappoint everyone
It's a good afternoon when there's a new upload.
Edit: the fact that we can say that toad is a power hitter in mario baseball is hilarious
Shoutout to the Koopas and Paratroopas for absolutely raking in last year’s tournament with the playing time they got, truly insane star swing
The amount of use i’ve got out of characters like Blooper is ridiculous. Everyone in this game is good if you’re good.
Mario Sluggers Fanclub, I really enjoyed watching this, so I hit the like button!
Wow the boys come out and post this banger
Got to give credit to you guys for reviving interest in a classic game. Keep up the good work.
I can't wait to use this list to make a Moneyball team.
Been missing vids from you guys, glad to see it
Mario is the best hitter in the game. No question. He’s got a massive sweet spot, home run power, a 90% hit rate with his star swing, and great control hitting; even his bunt is great.
Tiny Kong is B Tier TBH because her Charge swing is actually similar to Waluigi to counter quick pitching.
They have uploaded! Good to see u again :)
I’m going to be hosting a fun tournament of Sluggers with my friends! I’m super excited. Will keep this in mind!
My brother and I were playing on the hardest difficulty and we were down 8-1 in the bottom 7 (we played 7 innings), and we wound up coming back and winning in extras
Wow this video was amazing. Going to subscribe for future vidoes
Good to see you back! Will we be able to get a defense equivalent video, maybe a combination of both pitching and fielding?
I can definitely rank the fielders without pitching
Kritter and Hammer Bro clones best short stops. Mario is also solid at short.
2nd I like to have Magikoopa for the staff special move and since its arm isn’t as strong it doesn’t have as far to throw someone out as it would at short.
3rd kritters and piantas are solid although pianta has a cause of the oopsies sometimes and misses hard hit balls but can make the occasional snag especially if he has a star and his arm is so nice and that laser throw man don’t get me started. Having someone with chemistry at first lets him fling that ball and get about anyone out if he fields it.
The best outfield combos I have found are either two Yoshi and a baby like baby Mario or DK in center, or Yoshi in center and a baby and Mario in the other fields but sometimes the babies or Mario will pitch for us. Wario’s team has had a staple of Monty Mole at center (though his short stature has been issues at times) and two shy guys who all have solid speed and great playmaking abilities. Another slept on combo if you want to use monty in center is paragoomba in part due to his great glove but also his ability to super jump and float over Daisy and Bowser Jr’s star swings
Wiggler is a power hitter, no question.
I forgot he had a high trajectory, my bad
@MarioSluggersFanclub yeah I was confused when it was in medium
never heard of this nor that it had a competitve scene but it looks really fun
Poor Diddy :(
Great video and really well explained. Not to pick apart the tier list, but I'm confused why yoshi is so low on hitting with .406 batting avg and with you guys rating him so highly and number 1 in past overall tier lists
That’s why it’s impossible! He’s pretty low but everyone is so close that it doesn’t affect his position on the tier list too much. I love his star swing but captain stars can be tough to execute online so they’re a bit lower on this tier list
Waitttttttttttt there’s no way I missed a post from the best Channel😅
I remember playing this game a really long time ago and getting like 72-3 with a team of toads and dry bones. Good times
I'm glad that my confirmation bias from likely 1-200 hours of gameplay logged over 10 years ago is being validated by your tier list because fr k.rools hitbox is tiny and daisy is better than peach :)
1:49 I’ve been playing this game with my brother and friends since we were kids and yoshi is by far the best captain when it comes to batting. His star his OP
Is that stats sheet openly available? That is actually really interesting to me
Yeah it’s pinned in the sluggers tab in the discord!
@@MarioSluggersFanclub Thanks!! 👍👍
Me with my team entirely of piantas: wait there are other characters
WAKE UP NEW MSF VIDEO DROPPED!!!
MSF back with another one! You seen what swirling’s putting together in the competitive channel 👀
Mario Super Sluggers is hands down the best sports game ever made.
All Nintendo needs to do is build upon this game, maybe add some new characters like Nabbit, Cappy, Pauline, Rosalina, etc.
Magikoopa gets on base a lot for me red especially… batted nearly .600 over a 12 game 5 inning per game season
Hey there! I’m recently getting more interested into the competitive scene and I recently watched your 2023 tournament. I was wondering if you were having plans of creating a 2024 tourney? Also I was curious as to your opinion on the best player of using your rules format. I’m assuming it is Andrew due to the last tourney but I’m not sure if you have your own leaderboard system
I think doing another tournament would be fun! We have some competitive games in our discord and Ribbbz has the highest rating on there, but Andrew doesn’t play. We’re doing a mini-tournament soon to set up for a potential larger one as well!
Is your discord available for anyone to join?
@@jacobralls1669 Yeah, it's in our channel links!
Moneyball for mario sluggers
What character was the overall OPS leader in the tournament?
Blue Yoshi with 1.733! He had the highest avg and OBP as well. But a lot of the alts had small samples like that. Funny how he was the last to hit a home run but somehow the best hitter here!
It’s pretty obvious that toadsworth is the strongest hitter
Hello how did I not know there was competitive Mario Super Sluggers? Where do I sign up?
Our Discord! People have been playing a lot of practice games recently and we have a mini-tournament coming up (I think the players have been set for that but there might be a bigger tournament later)
Yeah but what was Blooper’s xwOBA?
this isn't double letters vs no double letters
When are we getting the letters vs no letters video?
What does ops mean
May I join your fan club I've been playing Mario Super Sluggers slot like every day
Absolutely
I wish the tournaments made you use motion controls lol
It’s a pretty annoying thing to setup for emulators. Not to mention vertical Wii remote is the worst control scheme and nunchuck vs sideways is a lot closer of a debate than one would think. I could see requiring nunchuck play in an irl tournament but even then that is a little silly
@@LTMStarlight it would be pretty entertaining tho lol
Monty mole and blooper are home run hitters idc what anyone says
Never knew sluggers had a comp scene lol. How do I get in it?
Join the discord! People play matches there a lot, there’s a ranking system added soon, as well as maybe big tournament later in summer!
@@MarioSluggersFanclub quick question: is it modded wii or parsec, because I own the game physically and I would need to mod my wii
for online i mean
It’s only parsec/dolphin unfortunately
@@MarioSluggersFanclub I can dump my rom
toad is a power hitter in this game??
I’ll make one right now. Its not that hard.
Where would the alt yoshi rank
Probably with the other weak hitters like the babies.
Its been a month
this list vastly changes when you include topics like line moving and anti line moving :/
Do you mean vertical vs sideways? Thats definitely another aspect to why a batting tier list is hard to make
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wait people play with items on?
The superior way
@@MarioSluggersFanclub woah whatttt hot take
@CSharp__ well I like how it distinguishes it from superstar baseball
@@MarioSluggersFanclub I’ll have to try it out!! growing up I mainly played with it off but I’ll revisit it for sure, thanks man 🐐
K-Rool is garbage tier, objectively bad as a batter. Dasiy is also a hindrance at the plate and with precise timing you can dive into the flower patch to catch the ball so her star hit gets her out more often than naught. I put in over 1000 hours with my friend group back in 2014 and we loved this game a lot. Something that was pretty meta defining was in the outfield if the batter hits a home run we got to the point were 95% of the time it would be an out because for whatever reason if you ran in a really tight circle at the wall under the spot the ball will go, the ai outfielder would run to you at light speed and you could always do the high bounce jump for an out. We ended up putting a house rule in place that you were not allowed to do the high bounce jump on a home run with a cinematic cam as without that house rule the power hitters were dramatically worse than everyone else.
I don't know why, perhaps a cosmic ray hit the wii we were using, but Brown Kritter was far and away the best power hitter in the game. We kept stats from every game we played and Brown Kritter had double the amount of homes runs as the runner up. I cannot emphasis how large of a sample size we had, it was madness. Even if they were not as god tier as Brown Kritter, the other Kritters were quite good. Especially in the field with super dive and the laser throws. All four kirtters around the infield and K rool behind the plate was an incredibly oppressive defense, as would could stop ever grounder and line drive from getting into the outfield.
I love the dedication!
I want to know what your opinion on piantas is, because recently opinions in the discord of him are being raised. (I was already high on him from the beginning, mixture of a good chem tree going from Mario to peach combined with toads and noki’s) as well as just having a good bat and solid dive range, I am getting close to rating them above the kritters, although I also have a much lower opinion on miis than the vast majority of players which affects my views on kritters.
@@LTMStarlight If my memory servers people were able to consistently use Pianta's in top tier teams. However, the Pianta's consistently preformed below expectations. Now, the expectation was for them to be the best, so falling short of the best is not that bad of a spot to be in. I personally would put them at the very bottom of the highest tier, above average performance would put them in a solid place but what pushes them into the highest tier would be their amazing chemistry. However, they would defiantly fall short of the other top tier characters. If I recall at the time one of the team comps we considered top 3 used Pianta's, however it dropped one of them and only used two. Going down to two was a consistency breakthrough that really elevated the team.
In short, I think they do really well complementing better players, but fall short when compared to said better players.
Of course this is assuming catching home runs is banned because if it is not all power hitters suck and should never be brought.
@@brennantmi5063 you act like a player getting into buddy jump position in time is a guaranteed out? Did you not play with items? I am genuinely curious
@@LTMStarlight What drew us to fall in love with the game was the involved baserunning, high risk high reward fielding opportunities, and the crown jewel of the game star management. We played with items for a wile but ended up turning them off as they are incredibly centralizing. Once people got really good at using them they become the primary way to get hits and there is often little counterplay from the defense other than get lucky. Yes you can jump most of them, but the batter having complete autonomy over the items would generate lose lose situations. I suppose if playing online over dolphin or something would introduce enough latency to make it not as oppressive but that was not the environment we played in.
We played in person and found the items to be by far the least interesting part but also the most impactful. Thus in order to put a greater emphasis on the interesting parts of the game we preferred we turned off items and never looked back. This of course had the knock on effect of now every hanging fly ball was now an out instead of a hit. This was fine, even preferred, but unless a homerun went down the foul line it became an out. By running in a tight circle at the wall it makes the ai run so fast they can help on hits squarely in left and right where they have no right being able to help at.
Most of my exuberant hours are with no items no catching homeruns from the zoomed in camera. It's funny, Mii's are garbage when items and jumping allowed, but without them as a crutch chemistry no longer becomes the most important stat (Still insanely good though) and Mii's get to show off just how bad they really are.
With items on I believe the only stat that matters is chemistry. With items off chemistry is still insane, but other strengths get to shine bright.
I thought the kongs were the worst characters in the game
Worst characters, not all the worst hitters, except maybe Diddy and tiny
@@MarioSluggersFanclub although there are many people who will argue for funky kong being bad for… obvious reasons *cough cough nonexistent hit box for the bat*
Sorry not hit box, I meant sweet spot. CZcams mobile is being annoying and not letting me edit my previous comment
No way k rule is that low
what