How Tennyson Grieves In Poetry

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    Hallam Tennyson's biography of his father:
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    Kissane, James. “Tennyson: The Passion of the Past and the Curse of Time.” ELH, vol. 32, no. 1, 1965, pp. 85-109. JSTOR, doi.org/10.2307/2872373
    Rackin, Phyllis. “Recent Misreadings of ‘Break, Break, Break’ and Their Implications for Poetic Theory.” The Journal of English and Germanic Philology, vol. 65, no. 2, 1966, pp. 217-28. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/27714836
    Sopher, H. “The ‘Puzzling Plainness’ of ‘Break, Break, Break’: Its Deep and Surface Structure.” Victorian Poetry, vol. 19, no. 1, 1981, pp. 87-93. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/40003150
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  • @thomashudry3639
    @thomashudry3639 Před 28 dny +82

    "A voice that is still" could also be read as "a voice that still is" therefore meaning that he still hears that voice.
    This verse and the one before not only picture absence, but the duality between presence and absence, "the touch of a vanished hand". The touch relates to something he could still feel.
    I find it incredible how with such a simple line he can both say the voice is gone and still here without changing anything about the line itself.

  • @Kyreille
    @Kyreille Před 28 dny +109

    Everytime I see a new Nerdwriter video, I know it's going to be a good day, even when it's a melancholic topic

  • @cradac
    @cradac Před 27 dny +20

    In German class (i'm from germany) we often had to write a poem analysis as an exam - even at the A-levels there was the option to write an analysis instead of an essay or a book comparison.
    But I never really understood the appeal of it or how to really write it. I never got behind the lines the artists wrote and put all analysis off as "putting words into the mouth of a dead person".
    I've been out of school for a few years now and I wouldn't have thought I would be confronted with this type of essay again. But if I'm honest they are some of my favourite videos of yours.
    I finally understand it.

  • @MrSegrist
    @MrSegrist Před 20 dny +7

    I just got a phone call today that a friend of mine died; this video and Tennyson's poetry has helped me immensely in my grieving process. Thank you.

  • @lignjahal
    @lignjahal Před 28 dny +44

    I discovered Tennyson through Del Toro’s Hellboy 2 (wild place to find him, I know). And In Memoriam Stanza 40 is still my favorite piece of poetry and I have had it memorized since I watched that movie.
    Tennyson’s beautiful poetry is so impactful. I appreciate the acknowledgment of his sorrowful poetry, but everyone should check out his love poems, which are just as poignant.

    • @mrmarshfellow
      @mrmarshfellow Před 28 dny +6

      Those hellboy movies are cinematic masterpieces tbh

    • @TheMosayat
      @TheMosayat Před 27 dny

      ​@@mrmarshfellowthey are the best type of guilty pleasure

  • @user-pl6wk3wg6d
    @user-pl6wk3wg6d Před 28 dny +9

    "In Memoriam" was a high mark in Tennyson's elegiac poetry, but "The Lotus Eaters" was his true master-piece, on a par with the best of Swinburne. Melonchonia was always his companion in all his 'outpourings' and the old Queen Victoria (after Albert's death) wrote about sharing the sentiments of his poetry in her diaries.

  • @coyote4237
    @coyote4237 Před 28 dny +13

    Wonderful as always. I would argue, though, that the stately ships are being buried under the hill. childhood > adult > death. It is the "under the hill" that doesn't make sense for ships to go. The "haven" is the grave.

    • @Arianmondal1988BdL
      @Arianmondal1988BdL Před 8 dny +1

      It is 'going' under a hill to "haven", just like we do when we are adults, we are 'going' to die, to be in afterlife if you belive or decay to zero if you don't. The sheep going far emphasizes our slowly aging and imminent death and loss to entropy.
      You made a very good point though. Lets agree to disagree 😊

  • @joshuaharper372
    @joshuaharper372 Před 26 dny +1

    I love the way Tennyson plays with the meter in this poem. All but two lines have 3 stresses, but those two (the 3rd lines of stanzas 3 and 4) have 4, and they are the lines speaking of the absence (yet phantom presence) of the lost one. The longer lines are subtly highlighted by thus rhythm, as is the relentless and sombre "Beeak, break, break" with its three stresses and concomitant pauses.

  • @scaife
    @scaife Před 3 dny

    When Hallam can write a letter that beautiful at such a young age and still see you as "the genius of the two", you know you've got something special.

  • @MrCymbalmonkey
    @MrCymbalmonkey Před 26 dny +4

    Fantastic video essay. My only qualm is that, I would argue, Lord Tennyson’s defining characteristic as a poet was not grief; his great subject was the at once irreconcilable nature of a changing world and Victorian England’s own ideals, and their interwoven identities. A man torn between national pride and nature (which Coleridge would famously remark on as art’s role; it being “the mediatress between, and reconciler of, nature and man.”) In that way, he could often be a mirrror to Milton at his finest, for his “quarrel with the world” - as Robert Frost called it - or his “negative capability”, as Keats called it. Or maybe even, less favourably, with John Clare, in that sense. Undoubtedly that topic had its own miseries - for which Tennyson worked with excellent conceit - but no more than other Britons and their subjects who would follow him in the proceeding years, or those before him: Shakespeare, Arnold, Keats, Housman, Auden, Larkin, to think of but a few.
    What’s remarkable about Tennyson is his lyricism - the greatest England has ever known, arguably. His match of craft with emotion was what made him the great poet he was.
    But ultimately, while Tennyson certainly penned some magnificent truths on sorrow, and laid his heart bare, he was not the great English poet of grief; that title belongs to Thomas Hardy.

  • @adrianbyrne114
    @adrianbyrne114 Před 28 dny +11

    fantastic video. i liked it within the first 30 seconds, and then got so caught up with it that halfway through I scrolled down to try to like it again without realising.

  • @plica06
    @plica06 Před 27 dny +5

    I remember watching the Steven Spielberg move: AI, years ago. The scene where David, the boy robot, asks "Dr. Know," a holographic depiction of a kind of Prof Einstein character: "How can the Blue Fairy make a robot in to a real live boy?". Suddenly the hologram disappears and a narrator speaks the words: "Come away O human child, To the waters and the wild, With a fairy hand in hand, For the world's more full of weeping, Than you can understand".
    My Mom was in the room at the same time and, though the narrator stops, she continued: "Where the wave of moonlight glosses, The dim gray sands with light,..." She had learnt that poem in school as a child.

  • @Theodelous1502
    @Theodelous1502 Před 28 dny +8

    This video is good i enjoyed all of it completely. Your poetry analysis is amazing man keep it up

  • @WarbossPepe
    @WarbossPepe Před 28 dny +1

    love your poetry series. Please never stop them

  • @inklingite
    @inklingite Před 28 dny +2

    I love that you do videos on poetry @Nerdwriter1. Keep keeping the eternal flame ablaze!

  • @yukimorandini9215
    @yukimorandini9215 Před 28 dny +25

    this actually reminds me of a chinese poem, the english translation always loose a lot of the subtlty, but the structure, there s sth very much alike here. here is the poem.
    It's ten years you're gone and I'm living
    - to the tune of Jiangchengzi
    (my dream on January 20th,1075)
    translated by Gordon Osing and Julia Min
    It's ten years you're gone and I'm living
    in two worlds apart and fading.
    If l've tried hard not to recall,
    I’d say also I can't ignore.
    It's a thousand miles to your tomb;
    so whom can I share my mood of gloom?
    You would not know me by now,
    my temples frosted with lines on brow.
    Last night In the mist of my dream-world,
    I was home again, watching by your window.
    You are adorning yourself, still young and fair.
    Our eyes meet and freeze ---
    we're in silence and in tears;
    then the dream ends right there.
    Where the moon illumines your ridge of pines.
    I swear my heart breaks further each year

    • @TheMosayat
      @TheMosayat Před 27 dny

      Yeah I can see it sounds very sad

    • @chris-hayes
      @chris-hayes Před 27 dny +1

      Sad but sweet. Without knowing Mandarin I must say this was translated really well.

    • @yukimorandini9215
      @yukimorandini9215 Před 26 dny +1

      @@chris-hayes well actually it's not such a good translation since the original is written in ancien Chinese, there's no "you"or "I"existing in the text, the expression is much more subtle and vague like a dream, which is exactly what it was aiming for... not possible to translate.

    • @CSM100MK2
      @CSM100MK2 Před 24 dny

      not really

    • @valq10
      @valq10 Před 23 dny

      Who is the author?

  • @vincenttavani6380
    @vincenttavani6380 Před 25 dny +1

    1. Deep friendship can indicate lovers.
    2. Deep love can exist between friends.

  • @KaleabAbayneh
    @KaleabAbayneh Před 25 dny +1

    I love these poem analysis videos. Keep the good work.

  • @peterDcontact
    @peterDcontact Před 27 dny +2

    "It's shortness isn't at fault, it's gravity is its power" Beautiful

  • @extremetee
    @extremetee Před 20 dny

    As basically a philistine who doesn`t really "get" most art I love these videos because he reveals the layers great art can have and even if I don`t understand it I can at least understand it bit more!

  • @mick16wtf
    @mick16wtf Před 28 dny +7

    Another beautiful analysis. We love the poetry videos too ❤

  • @evanokeeffe5505
    @evanokeeffe5505 Před 20 dny

    If we look at the order of the stanzas as the speaker slowly raising his gaze from the rocks below to the horizon, we can almost replay his actions while soaking in the scene. Pensive, but vacant. Then back to the final stanza, we can see Tennyson almost sighing back down to the rocks below (aka, reality; but in the face of death; always in the face of death).

  • @BbGun-lw5vi
    @BbGun-lw5vi Před 27 dny

    I adore your poetry breakdowns. This is just as good as the others.

  • @valq10
    @valq10 Před 23 dny

    His poem 'Two Voices' he wrote aged 23 just after Hallam's death. In it he debates ending it all. Got me through some tough times that one there. Thank you Tennyson

  • @panoschasapis2986
    @panoschasapis2986 Před 28 dny +7

    I had a class in uni about tennyson. At first his poetry felt so weird, since im not a native speaker, but as we continued reading his stuff it felt so right, the way he wrote, that now every other poet seems bland to me. Such a good poet that guy.

  • @soymikleo
    @soymikleo Před 28 dny +2

    I’ve been reading much of Tennyson recently, this is so well timed ^^^

  • @kaelbeuk1
    @kaelbeuk1 Před 27 dny

    Keep those up ! Helps me go back to/discover more classical litt stuff, which is harder and harder when spammed with more accessible pop-culture subjects and videos

  • @CSM100MK2
    @CSM100MK2 Před 24 dny

    Amazing video and analysis, though I kept waiting/hoping you would discuss "Crossing the Bar", which is where my mind immediately went when thinking grief/loss and Tennyson

  • @Oliverfk3
    @Oliverfk3 Před 14 dny

    Simply amazing. I must read more of him. Thanks.

  • @syifams
    @syifams Před 28 dny +1

    He wrote a series of sad poems, i remember crying to In Memoriam

  • @markusschonhofer3219
    @markusschonhofer3219 Před 28 dny +3

    Great Work once again! Maybe a poem of T.S.Eliot or R.M. Rilke next time? Would love to see one of those on your channel

  • @battleupsaber462
    @battleupsaber462 Před 28 dny +226

    Imma be real here i didnt know Ben 10 was so....well-spoken.

  • @stirwoodcraft
    @stirwoodcraft Před 8 dny

    These poetry skits are my favourite skits of yours

  • @wgolyoko
    @wgolyoko Před 27 dny +5

    And they were roomates.

  • @marlo6057
    @marlo6057 Před 28 dny +3

    Another beautiful video!

  • @Tarunsharmafilms
    @Tarunsharmafilms Před 27 dny

    Early videos vibe and i absolutely adore it

  • @daxel5694
    @daxel5694 Před 13 dny

    I personally really like when your videos take a more literary turn, and I would love so much to listen to an analysis of yours of a poem of Philip Larkin!
    Thank you for your incredible content!

  • @raphaferrari7361
    @raphaferrari7361 Před 28 dny +4

    Excellent video as usual, Evan.
    And the "childhood" image reminded me the masterpieces of Joaquin Sorolla.
    Greetings👏👏👏👏👏

  • @ShahidKhan-cu7np
    @ShahidKhan-cu7np Před 25 dny

    beautiful poetry love this poetry breakdowns of yours

  • @patoliterato
    @patoliterato Před 27 dny

    Great analysis ❤

  • @bbaker4117
    @bbaker4117 Před 18 dny +1

    1:30 Tennyson's first book of poems was published in 1830, which is 7 years prior to the beginning of the Victorian Era. Regency Era is the preferred nomenclature, dude.

  • @KannikCat
    @KannikCat Před 28 dny +2

    As someone who lost a beloved last week, this poem rings powerfully true.

  • @Cubehead27
    @Cubehead27 Před 25 dny

    Cool story: a few years ago during my undergrad I had to write a short biography of a Canadian soldier who fought in WWI, which I was then going to present about at his grave in Belgium (it was an experiential course that went overseas to see the battlefields). While trying to pick which soldier to write about I was waffling between a handful of members of one of the Canadian labour battalions, and ended up feeling drawn to one particular soldier - a Scottish-born guy killed in 1917 - whose father had chosen as his epitaph a line of poetry I wasn't familiar with: "Sunset and evening star and one clear call for me." As it turned out it was from Tennyson's poem "Crossing the Bar." I ended up researching and writing on that soldier, and now I love that poem. I do need to read more Tennyson, though - I've been intrigued by "Idylls of the King" in particular for a while now.

  • @raghavahuja12
    @raghavahuja12 Před 28 dny +5

    Honey wake up, Nerdwriter1 just uploaded!

  • @zacharywong483
    @zacharywong483 Před 22 dny

    Fantastic script here!

  • @DevonMiniFlicks
    @DevonMiniFlicks Před 28 dny +2

    Wonderful.

  • @bug688
    @bug688 Před 28 dny

    Could you do this format but with all the power and conflict anthology poems preferably in the next week thank you ☺️

  • @AldWitch
    @AldWitch Před 28 dny +2

    One of my favourites, thank you for your commentary. My Dad made me learn this when I was a child. Took a long time for me to know why.

  • @tennysonturbeville2745

    I was named after him my best friend passed away when I was 25 I wrote a song and made a video for him and used tears idle tears at the end, although I had no idea that this was a catalyst for most of his poems Definitely my favorite

  • @NenadZdralic
    @NenadZdralic Před 28 dny

    I love this!

  • @joshuaheadey9670
    @joshuaheadey9670 Před 19 dny

    Please please keep doing these. Nothing like this exists on YT

  • @StephySon
    @StephySon Před 26 dny +1

    I wonder if it was just a platonic deep friendship like kingdom hearts or maybe they had something else more passionately romantic that they kept secret hmm

  • @viajera_turca
    @viajera_turca Před 27 dny

    this is the best channel on youtube, hands down!

  • @hiddensolace1063
    @hiddensolace1063 Před 28 dny +2

    Yes!

  • @shackledore
    @shackledore Před 28 dny

    Amazing!

  • @NickSayre
    @NickSayre Před 23 dny +1

    Y'all, the name Hallam means "At the rocks," the very setting of the poem

  • @yvunbun
    @yvunbun Před 27 dny

    shed a tear at that last name reveal

  • @rkt7414
    @rkt7414 Před 28 dny +39

    Please don't make me like poets whom I spent so much of my time, as an English Major, loathing. I put too much energy into hating them. Starting to like them now would be a strike to my pride.

    • @Kholdstare52
      @Kholdstare52 Před 28 dny +4

      fellow english major who HATES poetry, here to cosign. Giving me feelings i decided i didnt want to have lol

    • @davebrooks452
      @davebrooks452 Před 28 dny +2

      Your poetry reviews are the best

    • @coyote4237
      @coyote4237 Před 28 dny +2

      English Major here who loves the poetry - you heathens. And Tennyson? Deserves all the praise he has received.

    • @rkt7414
      @rkt7414 Před 27 dny +2

      @@coyote4237 SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!! My hardened heart refuses to feel warmth!!

    • @coyote4237
      @coyote4237 Před 27 dny +1

      @@rkt7414 Maybe read some poetry for the heart thing? ;)

  • @breathinginsilence
    @breathinginsilence Před 24 dny

    i have barely watched any family guy since like season 17 or somewhere around there, but no matter what, if they made a movie me and my friends that grew up on family guy are going to be there

  • @auntvesuvi3872
    @auntvesuvi3872 Před 28 dny

    Thank you, Evan! ❤‍🩹

  • @zoinomiko
    @zoinomiko Před 7 dny

    How beautiful .

  • @Navarro1055
    @Navarro1055 Před 26 dny

    Amazing video !!! Big like. Greetings and happy day !!!

  • @Ellis307
    @Ellis307 Před 28 dny +2

    Could someone please tell me who painted the portrait in the thumbnail of the video?

    • @__-qb3xj
      @__-qb3xj Před 28 dny +1

      the book "Tennyson" by John Batchelor has this image as the cover. I'm sure that book will reference the artist somewhere

    • @Ellis307
      @Ellis307 Před 27 dny

      @@__-qb3xj Ah-ha! Thank you! I’ve found the painting. It’s Alfred Tennyson (1858) by G.F. Watts and it’s currently held in the National Gallery of Victoria Australia

  • @chrisfrerich
    @chrisfrerich Před 27 dny

    Is there an audiobook version of your book?

  • @utupp
    @utupp Před 23 dny

    Have you seen The Zone of Interest?

  • @Craw1011
    @Craw1011 Před 28 dny

    A video on Austen and now Tennyson?! We truly are spoiled

  • @corlissmedia2.0
    @corlissmedia2.0 Před 28 dny +1

    Do you see any comparison in today's rap artists to Tennyson's work?

  • @distancerunner22
    @distancerunner22 Před 27 dny

    ulyses rfom him appeared in talos principle 2 some games can be really deep contrary to most people believe

  • @stavokg
    @stavokg Před 27 dny

    Beautiful!
    How about Haven and Raven. But maybe Heaven works best anyway…
    Thanks so much.

  • @PhilGrayrock
    @PhilGrayrock Před 2 dny

    Gotta let go…that's why my epitaph is going to be; “go home. I'm dead.”😵

  • @the_Fisher_King
    @the_Fisher_King Před 28 dny +61

    So were they historically speaking, besties ?

    • @JuiceTubes
      @JuiceTubes Před 28 dny +16

      Sounds like a little more than friends...

    • @VigiliusHaufniensis
      @VigiliusHaufniensis Před 28 dny +6

      ​@@JuiceTubesHistorians disagree

    • @aymanelkhodary1232
      @aymanelkhodary1232 Před 28 dny +11

      It's laughable how you people reduced every emotion on the human spectrum to either being homosexual or heterosexual .. You can love a friend you know ​@@JuiceTubes

    • @Tax_Collector01
      @Tax_Collector01 Před 28 dny

      @@aymanelkhodary1232 Precisely.

    • @user-zt9kx8qp1l
      @user-zt9kx8qp1l Před 28 dny +2

      Um yea gay

  • @gibson1005
    @gibson1005 Před 27 dny +2

    And they were roomates

  • @brianmiller4207
    @brianmiller4207 Před 28 dny +1

    💙💙💙

  • @tonightscake4127
    @tonightscake4127 Před 18 dny

    Does the poet of grief let you draw two cards though?

  • @ssssssssssssssssss50
    @ssssssssssssssssss50 Před 28 dny +1

    Ben 10’s anchestor?

  • @aasimqureshi9100
    @aasimqureshi9100 Před 14 dny

    I have never seen a person read poems better than you in English.

  • @Random_Commoner
    @Random_Commoner Před 28 dny +17

    And they were roommates

  • @njdinostar
    @njdinostar Před 27 dny

    I thought it was about someone who'd drowned.

  • @ThoughtWord
    @ThoughtWord Před 28 dny +1

    Nerdwriter does it again. I really need to make another poetry video. The closest I've come is talking about E.E. Cummings and Bon Iver as creative kindred spirits. It's still one of my most creatively gratifying projects.

  • @kilometersdavis2510
    @kilometersdavis2510 Před 28 dny +19

    “””friend””” they were definitely piping

  • @171QA
    @171QA Před 28 dny +3

    Were they friends or were they "friends"?

  • @mavenbraun5701
    @mavenbraun5701 Před 26 dny

    Stop depressing me. I'm sexy.

  • @joaopedrom.oliveira8242
    @joaopedrom.oliveira8242 Před 28 dny +9

    I can’t help to feel like they were actually lovers. Possibly soulmates even with the depth of the grief and emotion being displayed. But obviously it is only my speculation

    • @walternate2914
      @walternate2914 Před 28 dny +11

      Why can’t they just be close platonic friends? Why can’t that relationship be celebrated for the immensely beautiful friendship that it was?

    • @joaopedrom.oliveira8242
      @joaopedrom.oliveira8242 Před 28 dny +4

      @@walternate2914 It for sure can!! You are absolutely right! I just had a feeling really, a sensation if you will. But there’s nothing saying that it couldn’t be just platonic friends

  • @krobie53
    @krobie53 Před 28 dny +2

    The way you said "friends" and proceeded to describe the acts of lovers! I'm not a historian, so I could definitely be wrong, but they sounded like they were NOT just friends!

    • @johnpoole3871
      @johnpoole3871 Před 28 dny

      Well, there is no evidence for that but we can't prove that wasn't the case. Still are we still doing this? Every emotion a man feels for another person must be in the service of fucking? I love many people I am not fucking, but I guess future generations will not be able to prove I wasn't doing so.

  • @erodetamilan1155
    @erodetamilan1155 Před 13 dny +1

    Any Tamilans here...

  • @theebronks
    @theebronks Před 28 dny +3

    they were good friends 😏

  • @Chhana_Me
    @Chhana_Me Před 19 dny

    Please do more Emily Dickinson

  • @IndiaTides
    @IndiaTides Před 28 dny +1

    I tried so hard to feel English poetry and I don't feel shit.

  • @scottaichner8166
    @scottaichner8166 Před 18 dny

    Love this channel but, these poetry episodes are meh... Dive into Hans Zimmer, Anthony Bourdain or How they produce the Amazing Race...

  • @pilotjones1019
    @pilotjones1019 Před 28 dny +1

    And they were roommates...

  • @fuki999
    @fuki999 Před 28 dny +2

    that start was pretensious at best.

    • @laurenwilliams3329
      @laurenwilliams3329 Před 28 dny +5

      I don’t want to be pretentious but…

    • @arualblues_zero
      @arualblues_zero Před 28 dny +7

      Would it be pretentious to point out that you misspelled pretentious? 🤔

  • @Sam-nl8ie
    @Sam-nl8ie Před 28 dny +1

    I literally just did a poetry exam yesterday where were you @nerdwriter1 😂

  • @mike_sauce
    @mike_sauce Před 25 dny +1

    And they were roomates.