The Mall in Columbia, MD | ft. 7 Jim Rouse Malls from the Abandoned to the Sumptuous | ExLog 74
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This video covers the ephemeral "House of Rouse" in the first half, with a brief anamnesis (or, retelling) of 7 Jim Rouse malls that I've either covered before, or will possibly in the future. The list includes:
-Mondawmin Mall, which I covered in ExLog 71
• The Mondawmin Mall in ...
-Voorhees Town Center (Formerly the Echelon Mall), from ExLog 13
• Voorhees Town Center (...
-Harborplace (The Gallery and two Pavilions), covered in ExLog 69. Nice.
• Three Dead Malls at Ha...
-White Marsh Mall, featured in ExLog 73
• White Marsh Mall | Sis...
-Burlington Center Mall, from ExLog 12 & ExLog 40
• Burlington Center Mall... (ExLog 12 when the mall was alive)
• The Abandoned Burlingt... (ExLog 40 a video tour of the fully abandoned mall, top to bottom)
-New Orleans Riverwalk, from ExLog ???
-Centre at Salisbury, Exlog.....no. Not happening.
After the revisiting of those 7 malls, we head to the House of Rouse, itself...Columbia, MD and its Mall. This place is incredible, and it brings our Rouse Saga to a soft close. Thanks for watching!
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Thanks for coming by, everyone! Let me know if you want the blue slop, or the orange slop. I'll pick some up at Sizzler for you. Leave a like for Jim Rouse. Legendary.
The Sizzler opening you used was legendary 😃😃😂😂😂😂😂love, love, love your editing skills!!!! I replayed the intro 3 times
Editing magic ❤️
I know it’s definitely not a dead or struggling mall but would you ever create a video or two on the King Of Prussia mall? It’s so massive I feel like its history needs to be documented wether or not it’s dead.
Random but any plans or any desire whatsoever on doing outlet malls eg hagerstown or queenstown. I know they're not dead, but as maybe a side excursion.
Probably not.
"Mall fountains and lush greenery are being replaced with slefie stations." Such a sad and true line. :C
Yea, it's really sorry of pathetic of our times these days.😕
Or just a flat expanse of flooring
My 2am viewing, deadmalls at the dead of night seems appropriate somehow. Great as always Thank you.
Thanks for watching :)
I am also watching this at 2am
4:47 a.m. Wed, Dec 9 Nicholas Shade
Jim Rouse was a truly great man.
no he was not. he destroyed the environment in howard county, including my property which existed long before he made his money.
Personal beef. Jim Rouse is legend.
@@sal Exactly.....!!
Tip toes away.
I stumbled on this video and got a blast from my past...thank you. Having lived in Columbia from 1973 (Howard High) to end of 1976 (Howard Community College); the Mall and the lake front were beautiful places to hang out. I got kicked out of the mall once from picking coins out of the fountain to use at the second floor arcade. Memories....
Haha. I did that once or twice to use in the gumball machines in front of the Patomac Toy Store. I used to say we (along with a friend of mine) were taking people's wishes and putting them in the gumball machines. :-)
Honestly I like to just walk around my mall since I find it relaxing and I love the fact that my mall is thriving.
I wish I owned a mall too!!!
Congratulations on your success
@@welcometotheinternet4215 Haha. Your probably joking because of the way I worded it. But no I don’t own a mall it’s just my local and childhood mall.
I love the fountain and it's poolwater look. ⛲
I've been going to Columbia Mall since 1977 when they had the hobby store next to the K B Toy store which is where the Footlocker is today. I remember the huge video game arcade upstairs which was turned into a McDonald's thats now the Eddie Bauer store. Also Columbia mall use to have 2 food courts and a liquor store. The Whole Foods across the street use to be Rouse offices.
"We're all in Columbia, at the Mall in Columbia...". Amazing how that instantly replayed from half a century ago!
I haven't been to the Columbia Mall since I was a kid. Now, I'm an adult and the Columbia Mall has been through 2 shootings, in recent times. I may visit it again in case it closes for good. I went to the Laurel Mall and Owings Mills mall before they closed their doors. Malls are slowly becoming a thing of the past.
Dude.
Your walk through the Columbia Mall was like a walk through my house. Grew up there, still have a house in Thunder hill. My days there were all through the 80's and much of the 90's beginning just before the first expansion and Bun Penny's coffee aroma still dominated the entrance below where the Boardwalk and Champs arcade used to be - but you'd smell it up there too.
Since you're so well informed about this subject. I am curious if you know the history about the mall in Jessup near Trucker's Inn that opened I think around '84? Was anchored by Burlington Coat Factory and maybe one other store. Over the next few years, bit by bit, stores closed and all that remained for a number of years was the Burlington Coat Factory store.
Great videos.
Is that mall in Jessup still there?
Oh!!! Yes. That was the Columbia Junction, I think. The structure is still there, but repurposed.
@@sal Yeah Columbia Junction sounds about right. Was earie and sad watching it die off over the years.
Just passed by the other day actually. Had me curious. Was it a large mall?
@@sal No I wouldn't consider it large. It's been a long time but I would estimate no larger than the size a single floor of the first extension of the Columbia Mall.
Wow, you pronounced "anamnesis" correctly! Good on ya! I was glad to see this one. My father was a civil engineer who collaborated with Jim Rouse to design parts of the water system in Columbia. We met him once when I was a kid -- his family and mine were on the same flight out of Friendship.
Fascinating!!
While the digital catalog was "New" (considering the timeframe of it), the idea of a store with only catalogs where you can order things is far from it. When Sears was the Amazon of it's time, they did have small stores in strip malls, or plazas where a store isn't within a few miles at least, they set up shops in those places, as I've been to one. Same idea as the "New" concept, except it had several catalogs you could flip through, then place an order when you're done, pick them up there, or at a Sears store.
That's so sad that your generation never truly saw a Sears store, just a skeleton of them. It literally was like Amazon, before things slid downhill too far.
I was stationed at Ft. Meade back in 1979-81 and 1986-89. I often went to the Columbia Mall. This video brought back memories.
As a Colombian, I enjoyed your video immensely. Thank you. 😊
The Columbia mall was my middle/high school mall in the late 90s/early 2000s. Spent so much time just hanging out there haha.
last time I went to a Sizzler (in Canada mind you) was on a grade 5 class field trip in 1995... it also coincides with my last ever trip to Bonanza. God I miss Bonanza.
Wow, this was emotional and the flashbacks were fast and furious. Was hoping to see the fountains at Harbor Place. Memories of making out behind the falling water in the nooks of those fountains, working at the Hoschild Kohn at Security Square and Kenilworth, shopping at Hutzlers and The Hecht Company. I'm guessing the Clydes at the Lakefront is no longer. Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. Some good times, some good years. But like everything, time goes forward, not backward. Funny, you got kicked out of Towson. I lived 5 blocks from TTC before moving west. Cheers, thanks for the memories
Thanks for the kind words, Matthew!
Born and raised in Columbia, and grew up there on the 90’s. Great town.
Columbia will live on... What to say. The place is expansive, expressive, impressive. The geomatrix ceiling reminds me of the old Disney Science Fiction Movie "The Black Hole". The Starship was long, expansive, and had eerily similar ceilings and horizon look. It was a starship, enclosed, yet you could almost imagine it as this Mall. People still eat there, sit there, converse there. People watch and look to be genuinely spending their time at this Mall. It is comfortable, and clean. My lord, for such a dated monolith, this Mall is clean, clean! Perhaps the reason, why people consider it a place that is reliable. The stores, stay for Sears, and Lord & Taylor have had their reckoning. They won't be coming back. The Mall environment, envisage, of opulence, variety, excess as you always describe so well, is a success and failure, not of it's own, but us as consumers. Along the way, the economy, our jobs, our state of living fell out of sync with what "the Mall" has represented for us. As once, an weekly escape, an indulgence, a place to meet friends, to see the latest fashions, gadgets, sales... As we all know, has been taken over by the mighty computer chip. But the Mall still holds a place in our history, and some Malls are doing extremely well despite this, disaster we live in 2020 and beyond. The future has yet to be seen, but I believe the very few remanants of these mighty retail relics "will not go quietly into the night." As always, Bravo! Well done, Sir!
Eloquently written - best comment on his videos, truly.
I remember that cheesy Sizzler ad (minus your "added footage")! 🤣
For the most part, the food was good. However, one time one of my brothers found a small live green inchworm on his plate! 🤢
I had no idea there was a Sizzler Ballad of Freedom 😂! Great video-interesting history.
Very awesome. A huge build and great fun. My grandkids will never know.
My mom had a friend named George who ran the Steppin’ out shoe store in the Columbia mall as it was called then over by sears next to buster brown. I got all my shoes form 2 years to 14 from them. This brings back teenage memories before I moved to Florida🥰. I know I feel old saying this but I miss the Mcroary’s store that was there across the pro image sports store and by heroes world comic book store.
That is where all my kids got their shoes. Loved George. ❤️
Yes! I brought my daughter shoes from George.
@Shay Etheridge yes they were upstairs across from the carousel
This used to be our favorite mall to go to when my daughter was a teen. Well, one of them. And Annapolis Mall. We would drive down from Western Maryland to shop there
Better later then never. Just watched this video. LOVE watching you both skateboarding. You still have all that great hair ! 😉You asked him what else can you do ? I see that lil smile on his face like, Ya kid, I hear ya. Made me think he really didn't want to do it.
Ok so Ty was the coolest security guard ever! Nice vignette of all the Rouse malls!
Aw, you as a kid 🥰
On another note: I like watching these videos to see what kind of ppl still walk around these places and wonder what kind of lives they are having lol toooo much, I know 😂
The Grieg over that end sequence = perfection. Absolutely love your videos!!
I used to love Sizzler as a kid. I remember us treating our mother at Sizzler for her birthday. I must have been 6 or 7, it was my oldest sister's treat.
My sister was stationed in Social Security headquarters in Baltimore and many of summer I would visit we would go to the inner harbor white flint mall Columbia mall Owings Mills Mall a lot of them are now closed but I spent many a summer there and the mall at Columbia at the time Columbia mall had Meriweather post pavilion I saw the Eurythmics Howard Jones Duran Duran erasure
If you go on another big mall trip, you should go to Dallas-Fort Worth. We have 2 dying malls (Music City Mall in Lewisville and Ridgmar Mall in Fort Worth). Also a Taubman mall (The Shops at Willow Bend in Plano) that still somewhat has its Taubman aesthetic. However, that Taubman mall was sold and partially remodeled. It’s beautiful fountain with trees was redone, the colors changed from earth tones to neutral colors, and the beautiful lights that once adorned the 5 courts of the mall were replaced with very modern, bland chandeliers. There is also a Rouse mall (Hulen Mall in Fort Worth), and 14 other malls in the DFW area.
Yes, I was about to mention Hulen Mall as well with respect to DFW; it has the signature Rouse features and design. It did open in two phases though; the Macy's and (former, now closed) Sears wings originally dated from 1977, whereas the larger Dillard's wing dates from the mid-1990s. The former Sears originally opened as a Montgomery Ward, and the Macy's started as a Sanger-Harris, later becoming a Foley's in 1987 and then a Macy's in 2006.
Hulen was basically the mall I grew up with as a child and teenager. Ridgmar was closer to where I lived, but I always thought Hulen was the better mall, because they had a greater selection of stores popular with teenagers such as Hollister and Abercrombie & Fitch (A&F closed their Hulen store several years ago). When I was in high school, Ridgmar was not yet a dying/dead mall (they had all 5 of their anchors then), but the selection of non-anchor stores were fewer (for stereotypically "teen" stores it was Aéropostale and American Eagle, plus Forever 21 for the girls; all these stores are gone, but Hulen still has them).
I agree with the outdoor courtyard. I used to love grabbing my Starbucks and just walking around on nice days or those times there was a birthday meal at Cheesecake Factory or Maggiano's. Those time will definitely come back for sure. I miss the LL Bean, but I'm glad they kept that fountain area and expanded the courtyard. Columbia is still one of my favorite malls. During these COVID times, I haven't been back inside the mall, though I did have lunch at Urban Plates once. Once the weather got warm in May, the first place I met some friends outside was at the Lakefront. We met up once more after that over the summer.
Sal, I miss Sizzler restaurants… Me and my family used to go there often. As a kid, I used to love eating the Dino nuggets. Sad that in its later years, the quality just wasn’t there at all.
Do you remember lone star steakhouse
On my #2 vax day off, kind of odd to stumble across this. Having been a customer at most of these centers during my 20's and 30's living in Townson, MD, I'm feeling a bit homesick. I left MD for Seattle in 2004. I was an intern for Harbor Place/Rouse Company for a short while during college. wow, just wow
You’re precisely the kind of person I make these videos for. Glad I could take you back! Also, well done on the vax. Stronger together.
Man, I remember when back in my southwest GA hometown of Albany, it was called "Western Sizzler". Used to go there so much after church every Sunday when they were in business. Man, I really gotta scrounge up some cash to go back home and get some footage around and inside the Albany Mall. That place was somewhere I loved going to back in the 80s and 90s. Just.. minus the department stores that didn't have electronics and such. XD (I mean come on, as kids, we were more interested in food, arcades, electronics, and toys.)
This was my mall when I was growing up! It’s definitely 1000x better now. I remember back before the Nordstrom wing was opened, and before the recent renovation.
The White March Mall was our mall when when my family lived in Baltimore County in the 1980s. By 1988, my family moved to Howard County, and from that point on, The Mall in Columbia became our mall.
Wow! As you pan down those stairs you bring back memories. The Sears portrait studio was behind them. We had a bunch of different hair salons, a video store where you could spend $99.00 to own your own movie. Straight ahead was the food court and if you went back upstairs around the corner was Merry Go Round, where I worked. Thanks for the memory.
3:07 What is that blue crap? 3:09 Tell me those aren't breaded chickens feet!
Yeah, that was scary! 🤢
It was the buffet from Vegas Vacation, the choices of chicken or beef, along with the chicken feet.
@@sergalocity oh, OK, thanks.
@@sergalocity Thankyou for pointing that out! Subtle Sal! Blended that in beautifully !
I'd be very grossed out by being there for sure wow no wonder Sal said that sizzler buffet was gross yikes
Your selfies, while at the same time ranting about "waxy, fake palm trees," had me rolling on the floor and braying like a jackass...good stuff, Salbert!!
Hahaha the Sizzler commercial complete with blue goop pudding, yummy!!
I love your videos. I too am from Baltimore. U said your mom worked at Hechts. I worked at Hechts at Golden Ring Mall thru high school. WOW i miss Woodies and Hechts. I loved the old Hechts and Hutzlers in downtown Baltimore. So much has changed. Thanks for the content !!
Lol! I like the scenes used from Vegas Vacation!
This was a very cruisey mall back in the early 80s. You could stop the freight elevator between floors, too. Very cool.
Great footage of You and Fritz at the end and loved the choice of music !
ah thank you for sharing this footage. I moved away from baltimore a little over a year ago, I'm really appreciating this.
Man this is such a gorgeous mall..
I love Sizzler!!! Growing up, I loved it so much, that I’d ask to go there on my birthday! Seriously, it was my favorite place on earth to eat and I legit had a had time accepting the bankruptcy!!! I’m so sad!!!!!
Watching that restaurant commercial reminds me how great those times were compared to now. Although that dad eating the burger and the dark haired woman with the crazy eyes , are kind of weird!
Amazing episode Sal ! Your series are so informative and you always include your personal experience and emotions which makes the #logs so unique..I wish I could enjoy the series with a meal from Sizzler 🍝😁 ..just for this authentic experience 😏 Stay safe mate👍
That sizzler commercial was creepy. Lol
it feels so weird seeing this place on video lol
i'm almost 16 and i've lived in columbia for my entire life. i go here all the time and know this place and it's surrounding outdoor area like the back of my hand but i've never really thought about what it used to look like before the 2000's. i love everything vaporwave so this was really cool to see :)
tbh, i wasn't even alive to experience what some of you guys got to back in the 70's-90's, but malls back then sounded like they had a lot more personality and character compared to what i know, and watching old videos of malls before they were updated to fit modern aesthetics (capitalism) kind of makes me nostalgic for a time and place i've never really experienced. it's sort of like a weird fever dream that i keep having but can't quite define, y'know?
That takes serious balls to glide down that ramp.
I remember when my elementary school friend moved out to Howard County / near Columbia Mall. I think I had some summer camp friends that lived out there too. lol, always seemed upscale to me.
I did play Hero's lacrosse though which I think was based in Howard County.
I used to work on those security jeeps at the Sears auto center. Love the content Sal!
Hey, Pittsburgh Mills Mall is almost dead! Definitely worth one of your episodes! I was there at the grand opening and then never back until recently to its last few breaths. I took 3 pics of the bare inside it was stunning on how bare it was!
I loved Sizzler. I ate at the one on Loch Raven Blvd. I also ate on the one on Belair Rd which I believe is now a Carrabbas. Columbia was a bit out of my way but I did go to the mall in Columbia a few times. I bought an insulated cup from L.L Bean there. Last time I was there was to eat at Five Guys; I was taking a database class at System Source nearby.
How did I not know The Burlington Center Mall 🐘 was imagined and composed by Jim Rouse. Explains a lot and makes me smile. This video has been slapping me around with the fantastic transitions, historical information, and shots! Sharing this to Death!
Nice reference to "The Watering Hole"
My family used to go to Sizzler for their all you can eat shrimp night.
I worked in that mall from 1997 in the sears shoes dept. to 2010 Williams Sonoma. so many memories.
Thanks for the Sizzler add. When America was great, and, sorry folks … it aint never coming back.
I enjoyed watching this all the way from Australia. Thank you for sharing Jim’s malls.
This is one of the few malls that still is packed on the weekends.
I used to work at the “fruit stand” at the Columbia mall (and at the Annapolis mall before that). :)
The Sizzlers i went to in NYC were very clean. Miss the salad bar.
Great video. I would like to make a suggestion the old Golden Ring Mall in Rosedale, Maryland which is now a out door shopping strip with Walmart, Home Depot , Sam’s Club etc. I remember when Sam’s Club and Ames, Toys R Us were on Eastern Blvd. K&B toy store was inside East Point Mall. The good ole days.
The music, the narrative, the footage, a Trifecta of the viewing experience, Thumbs up Sal!!! Liked the video, StaySafe
You always get a full view from us, ads n all, I got the Like button, and have been subbd since the first exlog
thanks for the video , ugh feel so old now . was my go too in the 70s especially the record store on the 2nd floor by the elevator and the video arcade near the exit to the 2nd floor garage
Your narration and editing is so good. I could watch for hours. And I have.
Confirmed: People used to get dressed up for dinner at Sizzler.
Your videos are a lesson in the niche of American economics different here than anywhere else in the world. Hell of it is, you actually make sense of what puzzles most. To view your work is different from watching anything else. Thank you.
Columbia has changed so much since I used to live there ...
What do you think of the new Merriweather District in Columbia. Still under construction. I like it! Did a little exploring by bike the other day. I never knew about that bridge over to the mall! Gotta check it out!
I’m glad you mentioned about Woodies having a restaurant. I have memories of going to Sunday brunch at a restaurant in a store in the mall at Columbia. They would charge a penny per pound for kids so you had to be weighed on the way in. hugely embarrassing LOL!
Almeda and Northwest Malls in Houston were developed by the Rouse Company in the 60s. They were twin malls. Northwest is mostly abandoned and Almeda is hanging on.
Great video as always. Thanks for keeping at it!!!
Great one Sal as you make life in quarantine fun for me
So nostalgic for me. I moved to Columbia in August 1982 with a freshly minted engineering degree to work a few miles south on US 29 at The Johns Hopkins University's Applied Physics Laboratory. The older parts of Columbia seemed so up-to-date, attractive, and well-designed that it became tragic that the last-developed parts in the late 1980s became much more generic faux-colonial suburbs like those in neighboring northern Montgomery and Baltimore counties. I lived on the east side of 29, but instead of driving a couple miles to the Mall, there was a fantastic pedestrian/bicycle bridge over the highway to the lakeshore where the old movie theatre duplex and several restaurants were, and then the pedestrian bridge over Little Patuxent Parkway to the Mall area. I haven't been back to that region for nearly 20 years, so learning that there was a Whole Foods where there used to be open space and public plazas was genuinely depressing.
The Whole Foods is actually really cool and beautiful and doesn’t ruin the area at all. The lake and everything is still there. The Whole Foods actually gives you a good place to park for the lake. You can see the whole foods in this video and you don’t even recognize it to be a whole foods
I apologize for the late viewing but studying for my national RDH exam is a killer! I cant wait until I can use your videos to once again relax me! Might I ad I love the music in the intro, as always!
There was once a mall in main street flushing known as Flushing Mall when I was younger used to love going there. Had this old feel but so much culture within it even had in the back some old arcade machines.
133-31 39th Ave
Flushing, NY Kind of sucks that it's no longer there. But not forgotten for the short impact it had kind of made me happy yet sad to see it gone when I look back.
I think living in this area of queens ny just makes some of us younger folks feel older since we usually know things most some younger folks know nothing about. Oh, the amazing video also. Love seeing what nature and what really occurs to these places since their the essence of Time capsules to the past.
Very well done! Keep up the great work as always.
The funny part about Sears is...they were one of the companies that were supposed to be able to take advantage of the internet. Because of their shuttered catalog business, they had the infrastructure in place already to take individual orders from a nationwide audience.
Obviously, that didn't work out.
Great stuff!! Excellent ExLog, Sal . . . this was truly a goodun :).
The Clyde's on the Columbia lakefront is missed.
Did it close?
Oprah and I loved the pretzels at this mall.
Haven’t seen a sizzler since 2009 when i went to Orlando Florida. They had a old fashioned English breakfast on there breakfast bar .
This lamb can assure you the creepy fisherman is likely dead by now.
I think he may have been dead while sizzler filmed that.
Loved this. You should do St. Charles Mall in Waldorf, MD.
Thanks!
I resent Jeff Bezos and Amazon! Shopping, working and socializing at a mall is so much more exciting and interactive than ordering something on line! Interactive is the key word here. Americans are becoming less and less Interactive in every way! I love Columbia Mall! My mother, my daughter and I all worked and shopped there. The mall that meant the most to me was Owings Mills Mall. The Kimco company that bought it, promised that they would revive and expand it! Instead, they demolished it! It was, at one time, a beautiful upscale mall. Will never get over that it is no more!
Columbia Mall:
Early 70's - As a teen, taking psychedelics and walking around with friends.
Late 70's - GF & I would go to the restaurant across from Bun Penny; still remember best pizza I've ever had.
80's - Fader's for cigars & Bun Penny for wine. Clyde's at the lakefront for day drinking.
Since then, occasional Xmas shopping...
I adore your videos and the beginning reminded me a bit of Dan Bell’s intros, but I love it either way!!! Keep up the great work!!! And for the record I’ve been a long time subscriber!!
It should say featuring Edward Norton’s grandfather ;-)
Rouse and Taubman both had very interesting malls. Taubman’s 70s, 80s, and 90s malls were amazing. Even their early 2000s malls were awesome. Rouse always had their signature metal paneling. Amazing companies. Sad that Rouse was absorbed by General Growth (now Brookfield), but at least they kept the Rouse aesthetic.
Ha ha ha!!! Columbia Mall!! Employee from bun penny, hot topic and Nordstrom here. Oh wait thats amore also while slamming beers across the street at bennigans! Thank you.. oh also p.f. changs and Z tay house or however you spell it.
Comrade!!
Dude the hair due from the retro video!! EPIC
Omg when you "gross" talking about Sizzler I literally spit my Sprite out! 🤣
Your vids are very well done, appreciate the hard work!
i remember when the selfie stations started popping up and I was super confused
One big problem with town center shopping malls is that the space is privately owned, people can’t gather for demonstrations or protests, for example.
when i went to LA in 2019 I discovered a sizzler in Carson. shame I didnt go there to eat