Es geht nicht darum, "nur drei Stunden" zu üben, er sagt, dass man keine Kunst machen kann, wenn man nichts in sich hat. Man muss Kultur erleben, man muss das Leben kennenlernen und sich anderweitig bilden, sodass man eine Geschichte erzählen kann und sich durch die Musik ausdrücken kann. Letztendlich geht es um die Charakterbildung eines Künstlers oder einer Künstlerin, nicht um die Übedauer.
He is right in his own way as he is one of those very few gifted pianists who learn many more times faster than ordinary pianists. So he could afford to stop after 3 hours, I could not - unfortunately.
It s really true.In older years Arrau practised also 3 hours.While many others like Neuhaus Hofmann and Gieseking practised 4 hours. Leschetizky also asked three hours. I think to Practice more then four hours a day is Absolutely against the musical part.But also less then three hours is dangerous for technical advance.Of course we can arrange time of practising in respvt of different talents.In four hours one schould be devoted to pure technic and one to mastering difficult passages as the greatest Hofmann prescribed
Es ist komplett Subjektiv, wie sich das üben auswirkt. Ich würde sagen bei 90% sind mehr als 3 Stunden schlecht aber bei manchen funktioniert es vielleicht... Liszt und Clara waren garantiert keine Maschinen, denn die können nur widergeben, aber guck dir ihre genialen Kompositionen an. Die kann niemand herzloses geschrieben haben.
As much as I admire Arthur Rubinstein (in my opinion he is one of the best Chopin players of all time), I think he was just making excuses for his lazyness. "Studing smart" is just a euphemism for taking shortcuts to compensate for a lack of discipline. Only a genius like him could get away with so little 'hard work' and training.
@Samuel Santosa @Farahmand Arthur Rubinstein himself once said in an interview that he regretted that he didn't study harder on his technique when he had the chance. I remember that he said he was more interested in reading books and enjoying life at the time, and that he could have had a better technique if he had worked harder on it. Having said that, I want to make myself clear by saying that I don't think Rubinstein lacked technique. I think he had a great technique that was more than sufficient for the kind of repertoire he used to play. This doesn't mean though, that Rubinstein couldn't be lazy from time to time.
For some reason, @Samuel Santosa has deleted his comment to which I was responding. Anyway, Rubinstein's technique never really was an issue. His playing was brilliant for many reasons, and I don't even think that a more refined, virtuoso technique would have changed his style of playing in any significant way. Rubinstein didn't need any 'bravoura' or showmanship. He was a 'complete' musician with excellent musical understanding, intuition and taste.
@@j.vonhogen9650 But I think he lacked technique. 3 hours everyday is enough, but EVERY day with great concentration. If one can do more with the same amount of concentration, fine, but it's generally bad for health. And of course, Chopin's students were working like this, I think they had a good example to follow.
After the heavy studying years, many great pianists practiced between 2 and 3 hours, like Horowitz, Bolet and even Liszt! Pollini on the other hand practices endless hours every day (at least until 15 years ago, when I was his neighbour).
Das stimmt heute auch nicht mehr, dass die "ehrgeizigen" chinesischen Virtuosinnen und Virtuosen, sich nicht in die Seele der europäischen Klassik einfühlen könnten.
Franz Liszt practiced about 10 hours a day, event when he travelled he had a kind of keyboard to keep his fingers moving, Clara Schumann even read and opened her letters during practice, so I think Liszt and Schumann were just machines - Chopin was the only pianist. Chopin war der einzig wahre, natürliche Pianist, diese Aussage mit 3 h entnimmt Rubinstein von Chopin; Liszt oder C.Schumann waren nur Maschinen...
Es wäre interessant, zu erfahren, auf welche Weise "musikalisch" geübt wird, über das physische Training hinaus. Vielleicht könnte man Lang Lang, oder Yuja Wang fragen, wie und wie lange sie üben. Tiffany Poon, scheint in ihren Videos Einblick in ihre Arbeitsweise zu geben.
Art Showroom: Bei dem Genie Liszt und der großen Interpretin Clara Schumann von von der romantischer Musik ihres Gatten Robert, schließt sich beides nicht aus. Das Mecha-nische war immer dem Musikalischen untergeordnet.
@@lotharramstedt282 - Lang Lang doesn't have to study, because he is being promoted non-stop by the Chinese Communist Party as a cultural-marxist propaganda tool. How else could such a horrible failure of a pianist become such a well-known entertainer? Lang Lang is an insult to those who admire the traditions and values of the Golden Age of the piano, and to 20th century legends like Arthur Rubinstein.
@@lotharramstedt282 - If you really think this is about the Cold War, then I would advise you to stop watching the Mockingbird mainstream media and find out what is actually going on in the world right now. I have been interested in geo-politics since I was 7 years old, read philosophy as a teenager, and practiced piano more than 5 hours a day during most of my life. This was before I went to three universities plus the Royal Conservatory in my country. I'm as open minded as one can be. However, being open minded does not make you an open borders loving globalist (on the contrary, I would say). By the way, I actually met Lang Lang several times, and he really is a nice guy, but that doesn't mean he is not a lousy pianist and a Chinese Communist propaganda tool. If you knew the history of Communist China, you'd know that the Communist party has used well-known pianists and other musicians as propaganda tools for decades, just like the USA used Van Cliburn for propaganda purposes (although he still was a brilliant pianist who generated his initial success on his own). Calling me prejuduced while you are clearly ignorant about China and its recent history, is not really a smart way to claim the moral highground. Oh, and before you are going to call me a 'racist' or 'xenophobe', did I mention that my mother was born in China? Maybe you are the one that is prejudiced here!
Das muss IMMER Musik sein! Einfach genial!
Es geht nicht darum, "nur drei Stunden" zu üben, er sagt, dass man keine Kunst machen kann, wenn man nichts in sich hat. Man muss Kultur erleben, man muss das Leben kennenlernen und sich anderweitig bilden, sodass man eine Geschichte erzählen kann und sich durch die Musik ausdrücken kann. Letztendlich geht es um die Charakterbildung eines Künstlers oder einer Künstlerin, nicht um die Übedauer.
He is right in his own way as he is one of those very few gifted pianists who learn many more times faster than ordinary pianists. So he could afford to stop after 3 hours, I could not - unfortunately.
So much I wish this would apply today as well...
生前８カ国語を自由にあやつったと言われるルービンシュタイン。そのいずれもが聞き取りやすかったと言われております。そこには彼の無類の音楽の才能、特に聞いたものは瞬時に再現出来てしまう、この能力が深く関係しているのでは、と私はただただ羨ましい限りでございます。もっとも私は彼の見事なピアノ演奏が聴けたら、十分満足でございまして、昨日聴いたルービンシュタイン演奏のラ・カンパネラなどは聴いた事もない美しさと優雅さを感じさせ、本当に心揺さぶられました。ルービンシュタインが遺した音楽は永遠です。私は日々この事に深く感謝致しております。
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It s really true.In older years Arrau practised also 3 hours.While many others like Neuhaus Hofmann and Gieseking practised
4 hours.
Leschetizky also asked three hours.
I think to Practice more then four hours a day is Absolutely against the musical part.But also less then three hours is dangerous for technical advance.Of course we can arrange time of practising in respvt of different talents.In four hours one schould be devoted to pure technic and one to mastering
difficult passages as the greatest Hofmann prescribed
Es ist komplett Subjektiv, wie sich das üben auswirkt. Ich würde sagen bei 90% sind mehr als 3 Stunden schlecht aber bei manchen funktioniert es vielleicht... Liszt und Clara waren garantiert keine Maschinen, denn die können nur widergeben, aber guck dir ihre genialen Kompositionen an. Die kann niemand herzloses geschrieben haben.
Danke, Schatzi!!
i don't think it's about his gift to learn fast, it's about playing music and thinking about it instead of make it a repetitive exercise.
Ist subjektiv aber Rubinstein hat schon recht. Befass dich mehr mit der Musik ansich als immer nur auswendig zu lernen.
Gibt es auch das komplette Gespräch ?
As much as I admire Arthur Rubinstein (in my opinion he is one of the best Chopin players of all time), I think he was just making excuses for his lazyness. "Studing smart" is just a euphemism for taking shortcuts to compensate for a lack of discipline. Only a genius like him could get away with so little 'hard work' and training.
Not sure about that.
@Samuel Santosa @Farahmand
Arthur Rubinstein himself once said in an interview that he regretted that he didn't study harder on his technique when he had the chance. I remember that he said he was more interested in reading books and enjoying life at the time, and that he could have had a better technique if he had worked harder on it.
Having said that, I want to make myself clear by saying that I don't think Rubinstein lacked technique. I think he had a great technique that was more than sufficient for the kind of repertoire he used to play. This doesn't mean though, that Rubinstein couldn't be lazy from time to time.
For some reason, @Samuel Santosa has deleted his comment to which I was responding.
Anyway, Rubinstein's technique never really was an issue. His playing was brilliant for many reasons, and I don't even think that a more refined, virtuoso technique would have changed his style of playing in any significant way.
Rubinstein didn't need any 'bravoura' or showmanship. He was a 'complete' musician with excellent musical understanding, intuition and taste.
@@j.vonhogen9650 But I think he lacked technique. 3 hours everyday is enough, but EVERY day with great concentration. If one can do more with the same amount of concentration, fine, but it's generally bad for health. And of course, Chopin's students were working like this, I think they had a good example to follow.
After the heavy studying years, many great pianists practiced between 2 and 3 hours, like Horowitz, Bolet and even Liszt! Pollini on the other hand practices endless hours every day (at least until 15 years ago, when I was his neighbour).
Ich habe mal mit Bang Bang gesprochen. Er kannte die Brahms-Symphonien nicht.
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Also ich könnte keine 3 Stunden am Tag üben...;)
Bin aber auch natürlich kein professioneller Musiker.
Therefore, the Chinese play mechanically.
Das stimmt heute auch nicht mehr, dass die "ehrgeizigen" chinesischen Virtuosinnen und Virtuosen, sich nicht in die Seele der europäischen Klassik einfühlen könnten.
NeuesunterderSonne: This is an old prejudice!
Yes.Yuja Wang plays Beethovens "Hammerklaviersonate"like Czerny.
Lang Lang makes jokes with Mozarts music,but without soul.
Franz Liszt practiced about 10 hours a day, event when he travelled he had a kind of keyboard to keep his fingers moving, Clara Schumann even read and opened her letters during practice, so I think Liszt and Schumann were just machines - Chopin was the only pianist. Chopin war der einzig wahre, natürliche Pianist, diese Aussage mit 3 h entnimmt Rubinstein von Chopin; Liszt oder C.Schumann waren nur Maschinen...
Es wäre interessant, zu erfahren, auf welche Weise "musikalisch" geübt wird, über das physische Training hinaus. Vielleicht könnte man Lang Lang, oder Yuja Wang fragen, wie und wie lange sie üben. Tiffany Poon, scheint in ihren Videos Einblick in ihre Arbeitsweise zu geben.
Art Showroom: Bei dem Genie Liszt und der großen Interpretin Clara Schumann von von der romantischer Musik ihres Gatten Robert, schließt sich beides nicht aus. Das Mecha-nische war immer dem Musikalischen untergeordnet.
@@lotharramstedt282 - Lang Lang doesn't have to study, because he is being promoted non-stop by the Chinese Communist Party as a cultural-marxist propaganda tool. How else could such a horrible failure of a pianist become such a well-known entertainer? Lang Lang is an insult to those who admire the traditions and values of the Golden Age of the piano, and to 20th century legends like Arthur Rubinstein.
@@j.vonhogen9650 :Are you an old cold warrior? Your opinion is a simple anticommunistic prejudice.
@@lotharramstedt282 - If you really think this is about the Cold War, then I would advise you to stop watching the Mockingbird mainstream media and find out what is actually going on in the world right now. I have been interested in geo-politics since I was 7 years old, read philosophy as a teenager, and practiced piano more than 5 hours a day during most of my life. This was before I went to three universities plus the Royal Conservatory in my country. I'm as open minded as one can be.
However, being open minded does not make you an open borders loving globalist (on the contrary, I would say).
By the way, I actually met Lang Lang several times, and he really is a nice guy, but that doesn't mean he is not a lousy pianist and a Chinese Communist propaganda tool. If you knew the history of Communist China, you'd know that the Communist party has used well-known pianists and other musicians as propaganda tools for decades, just like the USA used Van Cliburn for propaganda purposes (although he still was a brilliant pianist who generated his initial success on his own).
Calling me prejuduced while you are clearly ignorant about China and its recent history, is not really a smart way to claim the moral highground. Oh, and before you are going to call me a 'racist' or 'xenophobe', did I mention that my mother was born in China?
Maybe you are the one that is prejudiced here!