"SIGNS"- Short Film - A First Responders Battle
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- čas přidán 19. 10. 2017
- "SIGNS" is a short film made to bring awareness to the importance of mental health in the first responder community. Originally made for internal usage, it was decided to share to spread awareness. Made in collaboration with Marysville Fire Peer Support Group and Seattle Fire Peer Support Group.
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Paramedic for 18 years, estimate have been on at least a hundred successful suicides, once back to back. Ten years old to ninety. All different ways- hanging, drowning, gsw, carbon monoxide etc. Then the natural caused deaths, vehicle, homicide,burn deaths.
All add up. Wish they had a program like Seattle’s when I was in the field.
Appreciate your service David, thank you so much.
Man. Can i PM you?
David Weston I feel you. It’s a tough life seeing the things that happen and then letting them get to you. I have it lucky on me because it’s harder for me to feel emotions or any of that, but I still get it here and there. It’s tough getting that weight off of you.
David Weston
Jesus.😢
David I feel your pain. 31 years in the fire service. in 2018 the only support we get is if its requested. truly not ok ITs time to take care of the "NEW" and YOUNG Responders. We need you and all he ones before us to share your experiences for your own healing as well as theirs.
I THANK YOU FOR YOU SERVICE! I am really having a hard go Thanks
Paramedic for 17 years... then I needed to leave. My family was afraid for me. One day a patient pulled a .38 on me. I could have died. On to the next call. Another day, one of my crew members in the back of the rig was threatening to kill himself. Poor guy had had enough. We had no CISD in our department, like David above said. On to the next call... back to back codes... even after that incident. No breaks between bad calls. Hangings, GSW suicides, loads of bloated dead people to pronounce. Jumpers and lots of them.. but two were kids, and they were pushed on two separate days... by their mom. I was there for both pronouncements. Every day I prayed to never have another jumper. PD called me ʻthe angel of deathʻ (in a fun way) because if it was bad, I was there. Then the boy burned beyond recognition asked me to give his mom his necklace and tell her he loved her. I was the last person he would talk too. The same week a guy set fire to himself because of a painful medical condition he lived with. He was still on fire, screaming in his arm chair. Poor man needed more pain to get rid of the awful pain he could no longer live with. I got a line in his foot... thank God for morphine. We all have these stories and many more. We have all seen in one day more than any one soul should see in a lifetime. Do you remember the quote... "My mind can never forget what my eyes have seen..." The good news is we finally recognize the need for veterans to get help with PTSD... and they deserve the help for fighting for our country. Now, maybe our needs will be recognized too. Different battlefield, same pain. I guess I am finding that out now. Thank you for making this movie. First responder PTSD is a very important subject and people need to know about it.
Sarah your story touched me! Thanks for sharing.
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Sarah, you have a lot on your plate. I hope you find the peace that you deserve and thank you so much for sharing..
“Different battlefield, same pain” I never served in the army or in medical of any sort . But many of my friends have , and a lot are close or already so empty and struggling . Mental health is just starting to finally get the spot light it needed but sadly this should have been looked into so many years ago . Please stay strong and thank you for all that you did in helping❤️
Your story really got me
The 'suck it up' mentality is killing us!
Just lost my firefighter nephew to suicide 12 days ago. I had no idea of this problem until he took his life. I have 2 other nephews (his brothers) that are firefighters. I will do whatever I can to help them. More awareness needs to be put out to the public. Thank you for making this video.
Gini W I’m sorry for your loss
Sorry for your loss sweetheart. Studies are coming out with more research. Just know he was in pain and he made his own decision. .. And we can't judge.
Sorry to hear brother
Not just firefighters, but all of them that show up on scene and the ones that take the calls too. Dispatchers go through hell too.
So Sorry. 3500 calls in EMS and 23 Years as Interior Firefighter. God Bless You and May He Rest In Peace.
You don't get to pick the calls you go on and you don't get to pick the ones that will effect you... It is a cumulative effect, you walk the path day in and day out picking up stones, before too long you are carrying a lot of weight with you. God bless these good people,
Nicely said.
I have been a EMT for 15 years people have no idea what you see and do everyday Hollywood can never match the nightmares the reality of how it affects us its sometimes difficult to deal with seeing things in a week that most people never see in there lifetime stay strong brothers and sisters talk to someone as much as it hurts to talk about find someone who will listen and pray God always listens
More people need to talk about their story in the fire, police and EMS fields just to let others know if they are wondering if there are others out there dealing with similar issues. I did 22 years in the active Army and Army National Guard and last month just hit 23 years in the fire service. I’ve been a Paramedic for 20 of those years and always worked a second or third job either in the ER or an ambulance service. I work for a department with 29 stations and 700+ people so we are very busy. I’ve alway prided myself in wanting to be at the busy stations and running all the good calls. I never wanted to be that guy sitting at a slow retirement home station and a slug that many become or want to be. I always felt pretty lucky that I it seemed nothing ever bothered me from work no matter how bad it was. I thought I was able to distance myself from the reality of what was going on and go back to the station and carry on the rest of the shift like nothing ever happened. I did have a car into a small pond with a 12 year old girl and her father trapped inside it that we watched go down as I pulled on scene. It was below freezing and sometime after dinner and dark. It took hours to get the car out and we continued to hope there was an air pocket or at least the near freezing water helped give her a chance. We finally got the car out and I pulled the girl out of the back seat and worked her all the way to the ER but we couldn’t bring her back. The only call I ever shed a tear on several days after when we did our little debrief. I really wasn’t able to talk about it that day and unfortunately never realized I wasn’t that emotionless person at work I thought I was. Several years later I’m struggling with depression and my marriage is a mess along with my relationship with my now older teen son. I finally broke and left work for two months to get some much needed therapy last year Nov-Jan. I didn’t miss work one bit and kind of started to look at options to do something out of the field and go to a 40 hour job. Unfortunately nothing was available and I was put back in the field. Now hear I am almost a year later and struggling to want to go to work. I’m eligible to retire in March 2021 and I have no plans to stay beyond that point. I know there are many others out there that have seen far worse and stay on the job 30 plus years and they are ok or at least think they are. But some have had several failed marriages, drink all the time or just don’t enjoy life but they ignore it. You have to look at yourself in the mirror and be honest with yourself and determine if you need help because most of the time others have no idea and they can’t do it for you. I’ve had several friends leave after shift and go home and kill themselves and have even heard the calls go out on the radio because I was working that day. Not only was it hard for me to deal with but I felt like I was hurting for the brothers and sisters I work with that had to actually run the call. Even hearing the radio traffic of bad calls has an affect on us I believe. It’s our nature when we are young and new to the field to want to go in and see the bodies or run to the MDC and read the comments on the call or turn the radio to another channel and hear the radio traffic. It all adds up even though you aren’t the one running the call but you still sit there and imagine it. Please ask for help! If you have an EAP program use it. See your doctor and ask for a referral to talk to a counselor. Do something and just don’t let it sit inside and continue to grow because your family and friends don’t wan’t to lose you. Please seek help!
As a first responder I just wanna say I love you brother.
nothing but respect for our first responders. thank you for your service
Been a EMT for the last 3 years , best “job” i ever had. Shout out to all my EMS familia , from Los Angeles Ca.
I spent most of my life in the "helping" sector & chronically depressed. I always had a suicide plan & a kit. I suffered a near fatal crush injury at 57 & had an amazing insight.
EVERY organism, from amoeba to whale, has self preservation as it's first biological imperative. When your brain is telling you otherwise, it's NOT working right. When THAT is realized, one can accept a need for help.
Dying is only easy on the dead, the people you leave will continue to suffer. Seek help!
My prayers are with all first responders and our military. I myself was delivered from suicidal tendencies.
May I ask what delivered you from it ?
As a firefighter/medic for over 16 years, I've seen the same things as well. I think a lot of the stress we go through is being burnt out working 24 hr shifts and responding to a lot of non emergency calls that should not require an ambulance ride to the hospital, but we see it all the time and do nothing about it. We need to get the media involved to educate the public and to show them how it affects us. I'm getting in touch with my local news agency to see if they can help us tell our story. Good luck to you all, and hang in there!
I want to encourage every department across the country to charge the culture!!!.create aint-stigma campains around mental and behavioral health..It's ok to be both a hero, wounded and healing all at same time...stop pouring from an empty cup, self care and mindfulness is NOT selfish..or weak.. expand Employees Assistance Programs as well as increase the number of Health & Safety Officers in the dept
Been a firefighter 29 years, EMT 27 years during which time I've lost 4 colleagues to suicide 2 were like brothers to me and within 2 months of each other. One inaccuracy I'll point out is at the end you say no research is being conducted on firefighter suicides. Since at least 2011 the Firefighter Behavioral Health Alliance has been attempting to track and help train to prevent suicides within fire, EMS and the dispatcher community.
Very impactful. I was a paramedic for 15 years and completely understand.
I’m a volunteer text dispatched life saver first responder and I’ve felt what these first responder goes through. Hat off to the firefighters and paramedics you’re the best.
"Volunteer text dispatched life saver first responder" what?
@@DS-ej7zt I don’t know how to explain it but I have an app on my phone called lifesaver and when it goes off I check it and go to the scene and does some cpr until the ambulance arrives and takes over. It’s almost like a volunteer firefighter but I’m not employed by the fire department I do it like a Good Samaritan or something. I don’t know any other way to explain it but I tried I think.
Thank you 34 years and things are getting tougher we gotta hang in here and take of each other
Such TREMENDOUS RESPECT and ADMIRATION for all of our Firefighters, First Responders, Police and Military.
As a person who closely dealt with and married a Firefighter, In the 8 years that we were married, we went to 5 funerals. All were firefighters. 4 were suicides and 1 health related.
I know that you are all "Big, Tough Firefighters 😎👊".
!!!PLEASE, PLEASE start speaking up. Start talking about "the tough calls" and the underlying issues.
Use the CISM teams and resources in your area.
After all the Toughest person out there knows when it's time to talk.
STAY HAPPY and HEALTHY 😜.
STAY SAFE 😎👊!
Great video! So important to bring awareness to this. As a dispatcher you also experience this. Calls about death, injury, cpr, suicides, suicidal people sometimes killing themselves while on the phone with you. Also calls including first responders. God Bless all First Responders.
Thank you so much for posting this video. As a professional firefighter/paramedic, like many of the others who have commented I carry a lot of historical baggage. It seems that the stigma of mental health has been acknowledged in the fire service but, we need to take it further and promote a message of acceptance and being there for our brothers and sisters. Never hesitate to reach out.
Anything that raises awareness is welcome. Volunteer for 5 years and about to start with a career department. I have seen my share of bad ones, and I know there will be many more. PTSD and the struggle that so many military and first responders deal with is a real issue. The hard question is how can we actually help ourselves? We're taking care of civilians and not ourselves, because we didn't know better. Military, police, fire, ems, emergency dispatch, ER.... we all are in the business of putting others first to make a difference when things go really bad. I truly feel that in any of these fields there should be coursework in the beginning that teaches us how to properly take care of ourselves mentally. Every program out there tells you to be in top physical condition, but what about the mind? I know it sounds fluffy and all, but things like safe and open discussion, meditation, and exposure therapy are, I think, inroads that could help. Remove the stigma that it's weakness to reach out. In reality is the most courageous act one could do. When we don't, it's my observation that we then become the 911 call. Something has to change beforehand, to prevent it before it happens. We should learn how to care for ourselves mentally just like we learn fire prevention. When the thing has taken hold it may be too late. MUCH love to all who do this work. If you ever need someone to talk to message me.
mygawd , this is a needed video. thank you. I am giving a talk to chaplains soon, and might use this film. Chaplains also fit the full description of a First Responder. They face exhaustion, compassions fatigue and PTSD as much as other first responders.
I spent well over 33 years in the Fire Service, the last 27 as a CO on mostly Engine Companies, but did do several years on Truck Companies as well. I worked for a medium sized department, I think when I retired, we had around 400 uniformed personnel. Now the same Department has closer to 700 uniformed personnel. As you go throughout your career, you make observations. Regarding what we see as Firemen, I believe your belief system is a very important factor on your mental stability/health. Several guys that I worked with had a hard time dealing with the bad things we were exposed to. Many had no belief in God, in fact most of them were at best agnostic, but most were atheist. I've been retired now for nearly 10 years. Other than some old age medical issues like arthritis, I'm healthy in body and mind. I know why I'm on this earth, where I want to go and how to get there. I know that I have a Loving Heavenly Father and a Loving Savior, Jesus Christ that know me by name. I knew this my entire Fire Service career too, that is why I was able to get past the gruesomeness of many of the incidents I was on. Never once did I ever consider taking my life, I never once felt the need to have a peer group or counselor help me. My only troubles in the Fire Service were personnel issues, but anyone that works in a supervisory role will at some point in time deal with those.
How almighty of you. 🙄
I've been through having panic attacks due to a very bad relationship, I can only imagine what firefighters/paramedics go through. You have no idea how powerful the mind, the brain is until you've been exposed to too much stress/trauma and it decides to not want any more.....
Has a man that has had a little brother that has been a police officer for 25 years an am good friends with MANY other officers an fire an rescue, iv never seen nor do I ever wanna see what all of you go through! Iv talked with both sides off the clock . I’ve got to a bad place but luckily I had support to get through it an do what ever I can to talk hug tell any of you all or any body as far as it goes I love them an that they are loved an we can get through anything ! Stay strong you will get through anything my friends!
Volunteer ff 13 years. Had to resign after arson fire when I was first in. Friends and family turned on me when charges were laid. All I did was try to put the fire out. That's the thanks you get sometimes for coming to some bodies aid
Kevin Funk Funk care to elaborate mote in the situation?
Unfortunately in the Northeast, many municipalities do not accept PTSD as an injury. This must change...thank you for sharing your thoughts...peace.
Not sure what part of the northeast you are but if you or someone you know needs help there is an amazing organization out of Westminster, Ma(central mass) called Onsite Academy. Though the stigma exists it has gotten better. Will say good part of that organization for most part unless deemed emergent, everything stays there they don't tell your dept. But they are funded through many organizations and private funds.
This is a awesome video... greetings from a german volunteer firefighter
just got my EMT waiting for my next call, I've only have had one bad call, and it wasnt easy but its what i signed on for i guess...
You signed on to help others but it is human of us to be faced with calls that are hard to bear and hard to carry. That means you are normal, not a sociopath. Speak to someone if you need help. Many highly respected friends and coworkers of mine have done so. Please watch some of them here: czcams.com/video/idINVnsuKe4/video.html
Paramedic for 10 years. Bridged to RN. Working in a level I Neuro ICU with plans to become a CRNA. Much happier now. I make more working 36 hrs per week than I did working 2 full time jobs as a paramedic. I wouldn’t wish that crappy career on anyone. Low pay, horrible hours, bad diet, abuse, disrespect, dealing with the garbage of society on the front lines in the street... I could on and on. When I hear of a young person in school to become an EMT or paramedic, I wanna smack them thru the wall for their own good.
This is an amazing video! It's so important that our first responders know where they can go to get help - and that is absolutely ok to need help. Thank you for sharing this!
Very well done video. You wouldn't think that this would happen to our first responders but it does.
I've been volunteering for 9 years and for the last 7 months I've been depressed I asked to talk to somebody and nobody at work would listen I nearly lost my mind and lost my job because of that. All because of my paying job you make requests and the pride is high at one place and not at the other.
Adam, I am listening. There is always someone listening. Sometimes it just doesn't seem that way when your having troubles. Keep reaching out, seek out the right people but never, ever give up. Make it your purpose to seek what it is you need. Maybe I can help.
Hey Adam! In a volunteer firefighter. U ever struggling, u hit me up. I'm all ways willing to talk and do my best to help a brother
Adam, we're here for you! You are NOT alone!
Amazing! Great filming, and really depicts the struggles people go through. First responders truly are heroes.
More people should see this
Amazing short film, these are the kinds of videos that inspire people to help. This short film and many other help fuel my passion for film to show more messages and stories. Thank you.
Thank you for your service. God Bless you all.
Well done. Thank you for sharing!
These are the hero’s folks.
First responders.. 🙏🏼blessed.
God. Thank you for this video.
Well done. Such an important issue.
Great video Andrew! Thank you.
Thank you
I absolutely love this video. I can not wait to be apart of any fire department. I’ve been training so hard through high school and I’m so close to being done. I can’t wait to be working in this field.
Well...good luck.I'm glad I'm out.
Don't waste your time with a civilian Department join the military and become a firefighter not only do you get to serve your country you can get the GI Bill that will pay for anything you want as far as education plus being a veteran you're going to get all kinds of benefits best of all you'll get Veteran's preference which will put you at the head of the line for any job that you want because nothing looks as good as military experience on a application plus the public loves veterans and the military you'll get all kinds of discounts at the big box stores I just use mine today at Lowe's not to mention all the holidays that honor veterans and the military armed forces Day Veterans Day Memorial Day the big one no offense how many federal holidays do civilian First Responders and police get none!!!
Hey its been 4 years are you one yet??
Great video ! greetings from German Paramedics :)
Great video!
Powerfull love it i know how it feals I'm a fire fighter and I've been down a rough path but I found that becoming a fighter made me a better person.!
TaylorS Samburgh God bless you brother
You are never alone.
Wonderful work!
Thank you for an important film that needed to be done. Too bad more have not watched it. Ever thought of doing others on the fire service?
I just wanna say how dangerous our lives are and can be and so we can't let the enemy take over our feelings we can let the enemy have us think this way we have to have the blood of Jesus and we have to stand up and guard God already has us in his arms and it's up to us if we want to stay in his arms or just be of the cruel parts of the world
I spent years working as a Medical Investigator for the Medical examiners officer in my large city. I have seen thousands of deaths in my time. Enough souls to fill a small town or more. Some days, you’ll go straight from a suicide to a murder to a drug overdose and back again. I felt like the grim reaper when I stepped onto scenes, and it was almost like people could sense I meant death. Some things change you forever. Stay in the fight.
I feel soooo bad for her like losing anyone for suicide is hard but ur son I really feel for her
My 5 station FD has lost 2 members to suicide in the last ten years! The issue is real!
Worst call i had as a firefighter was a 16 year old kid jumping infront of a train.. DOA
Love a firefighter forever we are my great heroes always always fireman forever firefighter in my heart forever
I’m a First Responder, dealing with some and after taking to my parents and Fiancé I’m looking into therapy, and it’s difficult to look at it without feeling ashamed but certain things get hard. After a Call with a 9 month old Pregnant lady who was hanging out of the windshield alive feeling everything. Few days later off shift I saw cops pulling someone over and for some reason those lights really affected me and threw me back
Im a firefighter in south alabama and just a couple weeks ago we got toned out for a lost 6 year old boy. We ended up finding him drowned in the water. Out of everything that day his mother’s screams hit me the hardest… the most gut wrenching thing you will ever hear..
I can only imagine doing and through the things that you have. I don't know you, but I appreciate you so much. I hope you can find someone to talk to if you need it.
Nice short film
Bless that captain’s heart when he said he’d been abused as a child. 😢
Good video! When I was a Fire/Medic it was the macho culture where you were seen as weak if you asked for help, so everyone just kept it internalized. Glad the culture is changing!
The culture has transform......
it a amazing that crisis intervention isn't a nationwide requirement for ES
Wonderful. Want to use this in a Suicide prevention class soon, but....at the end it says "here are the signs". There is nothing after that. Am I missing something ?
Hey Steve, thanks for watching. This video was made for internal use originally to help allocate funding for Peer Support and it was used in tandem with a fact based presentation that gave the administration information they needed to provide funding for this program. I will try to contact the person in charge or maybe even set out some resources in the description for WHAT those signs are and what we look for and how departments can establish a self sufficient program like the one this video talks about.
So important to get help
I hope to be a firefighter 👩🚒 soon I want to help people I love helping people
I've been a volunteer firefighter for 12 years now and it's hard to deal with the thoughts one time me and 5 others responded to a fully involved structure fire and all of a sudden the urge to commit suicide got so strong without hesitation all I remember is disabling my pass alarm walking in to a closet and just standing there attempting to remove my mask when 2 other firefighters came in and forced me out of the structure I was transported to the hospital and was treated for my PTSD and I just hope to one day make it to where everyone knows what us first responders and go through on a daily
Nice video
I'm a probationary firefighter in Wisconsin. I cannot relate to these struggles of my fellow men and women in the field. And it's really scary to see the harm that could be down the road. Any advice for a rookie?
Remember to take time for yourself. Trust me , it will weigh on you some day down the road. Rely on your family and friends and before you know it 25 years will pass.
@@sixtytooze4746 Thank you. I will absolutely keeps these things in mind. God's speed at there.
Feel your feelings as they happen don't stuff your feelings I was paid call firefighter for 3 years and on a couple of them two or three of us cried afterwards
Well you been doing it a while now so how's it going what was your first call
What's the intro song called during the credits?
Semipermanent Fi 🤗🤗🤗⚓️💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I’ve seen some fucked up shit I’ve lost some of my closet friends and I joke around and defend my team. Mates without a second thought and in reality it’s stabbing me inside however my firehouse is like my last stable stepping stone we make fun of eachother and tease but we’ve all got eachothers Backs and all take some of the weight the main reason we keep going is to help other peopl
There is a complete stigma attached especially if your a “repeat offender”…unfortunately with this job you get one if you’re lucky two mulligans. Why many dudes just choose to eject....I’ve seen guys Id thought never punch out. Men I looked up to and respected hang it up. Truth is no one really knows what deamons come calling in the middle of the night. Most FD’S and LE’s only carry about their liability.....once you become any sort of liability you are written off. sorry for my brutal honesty. I wish i was wrong.
I always wanted to be a FireFighter/EMT. I swear I was put on this Earth to be one. I have a degenerating eye disorder. I can't ever become a FF/EMT. 17 yo guy.
Officer Kuester contact your local volunteer fire company while you may not be able to fight fires or ride a medic unit there are still many things that you can do
Officer Kuester, you can always teach. Go through the EMT program, and even the Paramedic program then you can teach. Also as Another Coyote suggests, contact your local volunteer fire department. I was a Paramedic for over 20 years. Back in 2012 I responded to an unconscious overdose, long story short, I was assaulted by this patient and am now unable to walk. I loved my job and was devastated when I was forced into retirement. Now I teach EMTs that want to become Paramedics. It is not the same, but it still feeds my passion for medicine, especially pre-hospital medicine. Look into it, if you feel that strongly about it, go for it. Good luck and God Bless!!
boston girl
God bless you, sister.
Another Coyote Just wanted to say thanks! I am currently a junior Firefighter with a volunteer dept.
I am joining the dept later in August. I am also taking EMT courses.
boston girl Just wanted to say thanks! I am currently a junior Firefighter with a volunteer dept.
I am joining the dept later in August. I am also taking EMT courses.
I’ve only been in for six months and my mask is slipping. I broke down just watching a flatline in a movie scene the other night. I wasn’t expecting it. I’m just kind of having a hard time. But I don’t know how I can talk to my sups without feeling like they’ll perceive me as unable to do the job. I’m always able to do it well. It’s just my personal life that suffers
Retired after 32 years, I felt the greatest threat to mental health came from the FD administration. They talked about support but just talked about it. Always quick to discipline but slow to help. You were just an employee. Get hurt and see how quick you're forgotten. See how quick work comp fights you on an injury. My experiences.
"Talking about suicide won't cause someone to attempt suicide..." that is absolutely not true. We really only dimly know about what causes different people to attempt it, but one thing we do know is that knowing someone, or about someone, who has recently committed suicide is a HUGE trigger for others. My friend talked to his 11 year-old son about Robin Williams. Within months, his son was dead.
Mike drop started the saw
Ses moi ou au début sa disait "ok 2 min. Avk un accent québécois" ???
I will
It’s hard for me I just wish I had the strength to help other firefighters I’m just not there this moment but suicide is not the answer guys
my husband has seen it all
Lani Karp once you think you have seen it all you see something new.
No he hasn’t
@@syler5069 ain't that the truth.
Most likely not true mam.. if he is any kind of legit at his profession than you wouldn’t hear a damn thing from him about what he does or what he sees. Sorry.
Do you hear that? Its the worlds smallest violin
As a ex firefighter I've seen many successful suicides I'm close to doing it myself
Seek help...Pray...God will show you his love and grace .He is our strength.He has the answers to all prayers.. You have to ask God for help in your darkest hours, to receive his gift. Call someone you love. They do want to be there for you; let them help you through your fight .
Hey, i really hope you’re still with us. How are you doing?
Fd is cool
I need that main firefighters contact information please...i need someone to reach out to me please....i lost my firefighter brother around the time of this video...im trying to create a program to help...thank you...my brothers name is bobby ray johnson he was okcfd...im his only sister
Have to go I’m done
I’ve been a Paramedic/ Ff for a long time got diagnosed Thursday with severe PTSD, I don’t want to die but I’m ready at any moment to kill myself it’s all I think about I don’t want to think that but it’s haunting me it won’t let me go. I don’t want to die
1st responders= citizens
2nd responders= ENS, Fire, law enforcement
Adam R citizens aren’t “first responders” they see something and call. But they move on and see only that 1 bad thing in their life. First responders go to scenes all the time and see and work on patients all the time.
@@aviewer2756 Sorry. Wrong. Who is at the scene FIRST? The person that calls 911 is already there. Citizens should learn CPR, 1st aid, self defense. Etc. Thats my point. Who in the world do you think responded 200 years ago??? Citizens. And we aren't helpless. We can do something. Most bad things happen BEFORE the professionals arrive. I know first hand. I have been a responder for over 30 years. I currently work on a rescue helicopter. I NEVER get there first. No professional does. Citizens are there FIRST.
Adam R let me restate what I mean I didn’t quite mean that as it sounds, I worded it poorly. I didn’t quite mean they aren’t first responders as much as I meant they don’t see what we see on a normal basis to cause them problems. Im talking about ptsd/depression/stress like this video is talking about. When I said they call and move on, I meant they call 911, help if they can, and move on and usually never again see what “first responders” see. When I said they aren’t first responders I meant that first responders means police, fire, ems. Civilians don’t do those specific jobs which causes depression/ptsd/stress from their work. When I made that comment it was to counter the fact that I thought your were comparing civilians to police/fire/ems on a subject that civilians can not relate to. Yes you’re 100% correct, civilians are the 1st ones there, but it’s rare that 1 person encounters emergencies at the same rate of “first responders” causing them these problems the video is talking about.
@@aviewer2756 I agree with what you are saying. You are correct that citizens don't see as much as professional responders. We were simply using different terminology.
I think the most accurate terminology for citizens is to say that they are the first responders, because that is literally what the words mean in the English language. Its too bad that that term stuck to say that emergency responders are first, because they are literally there much later than "first."
And the people that respond to 911 could be called "professional responders," public servants, or again, maybe the best term is "emergency responders."
My issue with being called a first responder is that people are relying more and more on the government to solve all their problems. Its extremely frustrating. So we show up and NOBODY has started CPR. or given first aid. Or people expect law enforcement to be there in 15 seconds and stop the bad guy from attacking or killing someone. Citizens need to take personal responsibility. It is their emergency. They need to take ownership. 911 is only to assist. 911 is not there to take ownership of the whole problem. Yes, the professionals often do, but thats really not the way it should be. I'm ok with citizens handing off to emergency responders, but they should make an attempt to do something in those critical first 10-20 minutes when the majority of bad things happen.
Adam R True I agree. It’ll always be that way though even if you teach people to defend themselves or to start cpr in an arrest. Most people aren’t used to emergency situations and the fight or flight response sets in; or they get scared of what’s happening and try to get away from the situation, or just plain don’t wanna deal with it. I doubt it’ll ever change now that we have set emergency services unlike the old days when you did have to help because there was no way to call for help.
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