Lol as an S5 ii user the S9 is a great content creation camera for me and its portability is great. I understand that everyone won't like it but it will be one of Panasonics best sellers.
I love my s5ii , I like it better than my old a7s3. I'm sure this S9 will sell well but I see no reason why folks won't just buy a used s5ii over this.
@@AllCarsUnited You could put them both at the same price and i'd get the S9 first....because this camera has a whole new workflow than the S5II doesn't provide. Nimble, Stylised the footage in camera, Seamless App Sharing for quick delivery. I cannot do that with a S5II without dumping the footage on the Mac, then color correcting....exporting etc This camera is great for people that value time.
@@lfcruzsierraI use luts on my s5ii all the time have 4 different ones on mine as we speak, I'm also psyched that the app functionality is also coming to the s5ii. I'm glad it's perfect for you though. For me time wasted is having to bring a second camera because of the lack of view finder, no flash or mechanical shutter. Also not having to restart my camera after it's time limitation is huge for me.
@@AllCarsUnited I'm not so sure about the Luts system coming to the S5II and X. From what i've heard from people who went to Japan to test it and spoke to Panasonic, there's no open intention to bring this to the other cameras. Maybe I'm wrong.... as for the new [on the fly LUT system ] it doesn't work the same as the LUT system on the S5II and X. -You can't dial in the LUT intensity -You can't stack LUTS -You can't swap, share, edit (39) in real time -You can't dial Noise - Clips now appear instantly on the phone. It's just no the same experience, you still need to pop a laptop even if the S5II is clearly the superior camera and that's what i think makes the S9 a fundamentally different. No EVF, No Flash, No Mechanical Shutter...none of that is going to dramatically limit my final output or waste time. Maybe I'm more video oriented but having to shoot, carry laptop, transfer clips, edit clips, color correct clips, export them, upload them That just kills a lot of creativity in me...and hurts me when dealing with faster delivery clients. The S9 is NOWHERE near perfect for me but I see the benefits of this different and hopefully, faster workflow. If they remove or update the time limits by launch, I'll consider one. Cheers!
It needed a hotshoe. Would have been possible to add an electronic view finder and audio support module. Maybe the MK II S9 but will there be one if this bombs ?
*multi-interface shoe. Edit: don't mean to be weird, I just think we forget the difference sometimes, and it's important esp bc it's much more complicated & manufacturer dependent. Really hope do they introduce one for tilting evf/audio solution/upgradability/other reasons tho
"The world needs a Sigma FP, but worse." - Panasonic
😂 I didn't even think of that. It's unfortunately so true.
Lol as an S5 ii user the S9 is a great content creation camera for me and its portability is great. I understand that everyone won't like it but it will be one of Panasonics best sellers.
I love my s5ii , I like it better than my old a7s3. I'm sure this S9 will sell well but I see no reason why folks won't just buy a used s5ii over this.
i bet my left nut that it wont sell well
@@AllCarsUnited You could put them both at the same price and i'd get the S9 first....because this camera has a whole new workflow than the S5II doesn't provide. Nimble, Stylised the footage in camera, Seamless App Sharing for quick delivery.
I cannot do that with a S5II without dumping the footage on the Mac, then color correcting....exporting etc
This camera is great for people that value time.
@@lfcruzsierraI use luts on my s5ii all the time have 4 different ones on mine as we speak, I'm also psyched that the app functionality is also coming to the s5ii. I'm glad it's perfect for you though.
For me time wasted is having to bring a second camera because of the lack of view finder, no flash or mechanical shutter. Also not having to restart my camera after it's time limitation is huge for me.
@@AllCarsUnited I'm not so sure about the Luts system coming to the S5II and X. From what i've heard from people who went to Japan to test it and spoke to Panasonic, there's no open intention to bring this to the other cameras. Maybe I'm wrong....
as for the new [on the fly LUT system ] it doesn't work the same as the LUT system on the S5II and X.
-You can't dial in the LUT intensity
-You can't stack LUTS
-You can't swap, share, edit (39) in real time
-You can't dial Noise
- Clips now appear instantly on the phone.
It's just no the same experience, you still need to pop a laptop even if the S5II is clearly the superior camera and that's what i think makes the S9 a fundamentally different.
No EVF, No Flash, No Mechanical Shutter...none of that is going to dramatically limit my final output or waste time.
Maybe I'm more video oriented but having to shoot, carry laptop, transfer clips, edit clips, color correct clips, export them, upload them
That just kills a lot of creativity in me...and hurts me when dealing with faster delivery clients.
The S9 is NOWHERE near perfect for me but I see the benefits of this different and hopefully, faster workflow.
If they remove or update the time limits by launch, I'll consider one.
Cheers!
Wait for a few months the price will drop,if they don't sell that good. I would say maybe around 899 or less.
Absolutely. That's my plan. I think the biggest issue is the price to compromise ratio.
It needed a hotshoe.
Would have been possible to add an electronic view finder and audio support module.
Maybe the MK II S9 but will there be one if this bombs ?
*multi-interface shoe.
Edit: don't mean to be weird, I just think we forget the difference sometimes, and it's important esp bc it's much more complicated & manufacturer dependent. Really hope do they introduce one for tilting evf/audio solution/upgradability/other reasons tho
That would be amazing. It is the coolest looking camera. I would legit sell my x100v and get if not for all the shortcomings
have you ever touched or used the camera?
Nope, but I know what my needs are. Are you picking one up?