Larry & Lawrie are BROKEN!
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In this video, we're going to talk about Larry & Lawrie, the newest Epic Brawler duo in Brawl Stars! I'm going to test how strong they are, and decide whether or not they're worth buying, worth unlocking, worth upgrading, & worth playing!
SPOILER ALERT: They're INSANELY Broken!
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Are you unlocking Larry & Lawrie??!
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How is this commented 10hrs ago
I mean ill unlock it 1 second after actual release👍
I love doing unfair 4v3 but the additional teammate spawn whenever you want🙃
@@trevorgoh3857He probably uploaded 10 hrs ago and made it public now. Not completely sure though
@@siddharthmayekar6985basically yeah
nah im not but good video
Unlike Kit where he was broken in a buggy way, these two are just broken mechanically. Why should I ever use Barley again? 💀
I think Barley is... well, suppose to be, focused on mass area control and L&L would be focused on defence and damage output but instead Barley basically got completely outclassed
After reading you comment I just realized I might not try to unlock Barley’s mastery anymore when we have L&L in the game 💀 and my Barley is only lvl 9 oof I think I’d rather spend my hard earned coins and power points on the new brawler once I unlock it
@@keky7565 Even this guy has already control , barley should just be deleted
@@alshiel8102barley mastery is respectable
Larry and Lawrie mastery shows that you can tap the screen
Wait till L&L gets nerfed
I feel that it’s perfectly fine for BS to monetize early-access, but the problem is when the early-access brawler is completely broken with virtually no counters (see Kit, L&L and Chuck on heist). I think the community reaction would be a lot less negative if they just made them more balanced on release.
chuck has always been balanced tho yes hes broken on heist but thats by design he was meant to be good at that and no amount of tuning will really make him a bad brawler on heist and he is balanced on other game modes that got it right once they can do it again and i don't think they are trying to make the brawlers as op as they are
@@carmansunnyboi7972they made every brawler released under this new pay for early broken there is no way you are defending it lol.
@@carmansunnyboi7972brawlers should not be broken in one mode and garbage in comparison in others. That’s pretty obviously terrible game design
@@aymangani5416 he was never meant to be unusable in the others but he was designed to be good at heist
@@aTypicalMushroom i believe someone on the team responded to the accusation of purposefully releasing broken brawlers saying that they would rather release something powerful that they can tweak to make balanced then a brawler that is weak and needs improvements. It's shitty because it gives people who spend money on the game an advantage with a new brawler that no one knows anything about really, but at the same time, lets be honest, if the character WASNT broken, no one would buy the pack. 🤷♂However, to top all that off, there is not really a way for them to officially test new characters until they are released. The numbers that they put in place (example 33% healing on L&L gadget) is a sort of "placeholder" until the team gets enough info to tell them that that gadget needs a nerf/buff. They can play the character all they want on a dev build, but just like the content creators, they can't play with ACTUAL people unless they are also on the dev build, and the only people on the dev build are the devs and content creators, and content creators arent going to help them do research to see if a character is broken or not because they aren't going to pay them for their help and there are not enough members on the team for them to set a proper conclusion on whether or not a character is broken or weak. Thats why they probably increase the values of those numbers (like the gadget i mentioned earlier) instead of lowering them. Everyone thinks there is some malicious intent behind them doing something like this but this dev team is NOT like the clash royal team. They at least told us flat out that they do things to make money because they NEED to to stay in business and keep the game going. Would you rather them release balanced brawlers that no one would buy so they start losing revenue and the game would have to be shut down? because in reality thats what it comes down too.
Facing them in brawl ball is an instant L at the moment
Exactly
Nah facing them in heist is gonna be instant L becouse of the reload star power
With a random team, yes
Bro i faced them in Winter Party and they still destroyed my team
I have won against then in all my games (6) in wipeout heist and duo showdown
Larry and Lawrie are mechanically amazing, however:
Once again, Supercell wants to make as much money as possible from their brawler release, so they make this brawler (and everyone else) OP for the first 2-3 weeks to get us to buy and possibly invest a lot of our resources into them.
Like I get it, they wanna make money, but if this happens for 2 weeks every 5 weeks(that's how often a brawler comes out), it's such a big percentage of our time where we have to suffer.
And the worst part is that they act like they don't know that they're releasing OP brawlers, and then they dare to apologize after they nerf them... They can do emergency nerfs on the day of release if they want, so they'd better stop acting like a savior with those delayed nerfs, they literally create a problem just to act awesome when they eventually solve it!
Honestly, looking at their kit, I can imagine them actually being viable and not oppressive after nerf, unlike Kit
@HmmHmm-ve7ou fr i dont even wanna unlock kit. Might just wait till larry comes out and use credits on him
Im pretty sure they dont do this because of that,
Frank has stated that they rather make a op brawler that they can nerf rather than a too weak brawler, That way they are more fun to play. (thats a different story if you’re facing them thought :( )
@@Haamuhai kinda like how useless frank and hank are in game rn?
This is exactly what I’m thinking. I stopped playing the game after Kit came out because I love showdown and it was unplayable with anyone but Kit and Mico
I can't believe Supercell "unintentionally" does this now 😞.
Locking the new brawlers behind a paywall and being broken to nerf them some time after the offer ends.
They don't immediately nerf after the official nerf.
@@holyromanemperor420 We saw that happen with Kit, I hope they can do things right this time
@@Dead-Tired_Knight
Yeah but that was not immediate.
@@holyromanemperor420 I know my guy, I know.
They didn't even do that lol, and the early access is just to look at how the brawler is doing and if they should buff or nerf the brawler
Haven’t seen it yet, but Larry+Lawrie, RT, and Lola is essentially a 6v3
True
10v5 in 5v5?!
Don't forget Nita or Tara.
Jessie
MrP and penny left the chat crying
22:16 the fact that a thrower chased a mortis for a solid 2 minutes shows how strong he is
Anyone else remembers Grom when he was first released, his attack also used to land instantly on close range without going all the way up and fall down. He used to absolutely shred everyone even his natural counters like mortis at that time. Then they nerfed his attack projectile to go all the way up even at close range. I wouldn't be surprised if this brawler also gets the same treatment.
I think the projectile speed is fine how it is. The nerf should be a bit more dynamic instead of applying an already-existing nerf like a band-aid. His attack should be shorter range, slightly smaller splash, and a bigger gap between the first and secondary explosion. The way it is now, you can pretty much only escape the secondary explosion if you're on the edge of the first one. Then his Star Power should make Lawrie take 60% damage and Larry take 40% or something. And fix the heal/dash gadget, I'm not sure how it's supposed to work. Sometimes you only dash slightly towards each other, sometimes you dash across the map, and sometimes you dash way past each other, it's weird.
@@bommienah i don’t think that this nerf would change things. L&L super must need more damage to actually be achieved, lawrie’s health has to be lower, otherwise it’s like fighting against another brawler while it just has to be a helper. i agree with the delaying of the second explosion and about the 40%;60% thing, but that won’t be enough, L&L would still be too strong. the only counter rn is edgar from what i’ve seen if L&L threw all their projectiles. Still, a big L for supercell for creating another op brawler with no counters at all.
4:20 "I accidentally won" ARE THEY THAT BROKEN?!
That is funny
XD yeah now bekus i Got Them i Got a 3796wins in 3796 games so 0 losed 3796 wins XD😅😅 i play the game to much i think i Will stop at 10000wins and 0 losed
@@Mathias-uo3tzhow does a 5 year old get on CZcams
@@Mathias-uo3tz???
I think he's trying to imitate what Kairos will say because Larry and Lawrie are overpowered.@@knoxnotcool3884
even the bot jessie realised how op larry and lawrie are and walked into the gas
4:05
It's kind of sad when looking at all the early access brawlers supercell isn't even trying to balance the new brawlers at all
Makes the game a lot less fun when there's constantly another menace ruining ladder
Even ignoring the pay to win aspect of it when everyone has the brawler in a week ladder will still be a miserable experience if you don't want to play the new brawler
In my opinion he is so good cause imagine being the only thrower that can kill a shotgunner right next to them!
dyna stun can???💀💀💀
bruh u need skill to stun people@@mystbs6612
@mystbs6612 it's way harder to hit Dyna's shots
*day 1 Grom flashbacks*
Skill issue@@miajose660
Ok so:
-He's a thrower with insane damage
-he can have the health of a tank
-his super counters assassins
-with his gadget he can be an assassin
locking every new brawler behind a paywall and making them broken is such a scumbag thing to do
This guys power creep is insane. 2-3x better than more than half the brawlers. Just terrible design regardless of their monetization strategy.
They might reduce to lawrie takes 50% of receiving damage and you take 50% damage. That’d be good still. Full on invincibility is crazy😂. They should know, they took that away from kit🤦♂️
Edit: don’t make lawrie take 50%, Lawrie has to take normal damage for it to work😂
gus as a super has like what? 2000 hp shield, AND LAWRIE ACTUALLY SHOOTS
That actually wouldn't do anything because lawrie would be up for twice as long so you would still have the same amount of effective health
That was my first idea but I realised it does not make anything. You will die exactly the same time like right now. The enemy needs to deal the same demage to eliminate you. The only difference is your "pet" wont die before you. I think it would be even more powerfull because your "pet" will deal demage for 2 times longer time.
At least you wouldn't be able to heal while being attacked,@@anarchment6759
This would make him even more broken. Gadget would heal twice as much
They’re def gonna get the grom treatment after f2p, the explosion delay is probably increasing as well.
They need to reverse the on hit effect, instead of the attack sprouting outwards reverse it. The first hit is the big radius and the follow-up the smaller radius, it makes hitting shots more rewarding since his damage is already broken while at the same time providing the dynamike treatment, powerful in accuracy.
Just nerf the shield star power to only tank like 50% of dmg. Bypasses all the weird interactions bc you still get hit for dmg.
Oh also the main attack. That too.
i think it would be still pretty op, cause it‘s literally a Gus super, without the fact that it loses life over time. Plus u have a „pet“ that does attack ur opponents like Nitas Bear or else.
@@jasoncaroon it can also go and get itself killed. Not to mention that both the player AND the bot can get hit with one attack.
Though the main idea is "don't shield ALL damage" to avoid the weird implications it has. No more janky healing under fire or not charging super.
He just charges his super way too fast. As soon as you kill Laurie, he spawns another, you get no reprieve whatsoever.
Making the super charge a lot slower will make him care about Laurie more, making more strategic plays (but it will also make it a lot more annoying when Laurie doesn't do what you want).
20:46 LIKE WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!
God mode
This was me. I am poop deli manager
He might be THE most broken brawler (on release) of Brawl Star's history, maybe even more broken than Rosa on release.
I’ve played since global and I completely agree, this is on a whole nother level of strength than even prime Rosa/leon. Close range + throwing +ega tank with star power and healing with his gadget is so op
Laurie is exactly like a bot in friendly matches. He has the same movement and attacks the same
No
@@Heyfantus He is bozo
😡😡
And that's what make them really strong, not like Nita bear, Lawrie is a bit more unpredictable, even his weapon (the gadget), also the fact that their original skin have almost the same color make it even worse
Lawrie is dumber than bots in friendly games
Kairos next tier list
S:Larry and Lawrie
F:All other brawlers
1:10 make sure you add the $14.99 to the total spent on the P2P account😊 (love your videos btw)
He probably buys it in the next Deluxe Kairos video
I'm beginning to think that the Dev Team doesn't do any play testing. They just come up with a bunch of random stats and abilities for a new brawler and go "yeah that's probably fine".
Chill, both kit and L&L were made before they went on break. Out of office so they couldnt bother balancing
@@denz8ty648it doesn't even take 3 matches to know that these brawlers are broken. This is 100% intentional.
I bought them because I just liked the concept of the duo Brothers. But I never knew how broken they are in the game especially heist and Boss Battle
The second shot has a much shorter time interval than Barley's attack, so its a lot easier to hit both times with Larry. Not an expected thing that I thought would be op but it actually makes Larry deal so much more damage. Hopefully they get nerfs sooner rather than later now that supercell is off break, but two new broken brawlers on release is sketch. (also I thought they learned with Grom that having a thrower that is able to burst down enemies right next to them isn't a good game mechanic💀)
they look like very instresting and fun brawlers hope to get them when they drop officially
16:49 could make Brazilian phonk fire 🔥
I’ve been using the ‘bad’ SP and Gadget, and I think they’re actually pretty fun. Getting to switch your weapon is great, and ammo reload is good without being terribly broken
Kairos needs to become the new matpat so that we can get quality theories again 🥺
Hope the new lore video is coming soon because brawl stars posted a full video themselves
The second star power activated on the Heist safe. (Probably a bug?) This results in almost infinite ammo and is a very fun power trip. You’ll have to try it out!
Nothing like watching kairostime at 3 am cuz i had nightmares. Thank you kairos love you❤
they’re SOO godly in heist with their reload sp. pushed to rank 23 with randoms with 0 losses 😅
Protocole assist is just BUSTED in heist from some things wich i saw (im talkong about the 2nd super) just get Lawry with his shotgun next to the safe and you just spam your thrown projectile for a LOT of dmg
I think they will probably limit the time the second one stays active (so he takes damage all the time), probably as soon as hes available for everyone, probably some other stuff as well (less HP and less damage i guess), but I don’t know, maybe I am completely wrong
Unlocked them with the trophy road and a fun trick with the brawl pass. Now i call them uberthrower and the shotgun guy. They're stupid powerful and you can farm trophies in showdonwn like crazy. Sometimes my summon survives me and kills somebody while I am already dead. If that happened to me I'd be pissed. But i worked for them (in game I mean)
The weapon switch is actually insane, although the bot is bad with the throw attack, if you get your super back and respawn lawrie, he will get the shotgun back, making both larry and lawrie have the same weapon, and if you use the gadget again (while yous have the same attack) it will switch to both larry and lawrie having the throw attack
Kairos i think that you should do an updated version of the unlock guide cuz of the removal of chromatics
Still waiting for a updated version of best brawlers to pick on hall of fame
Bought them day 1 because I like this characters as a characters design wise, was pretty surprised how op they are.
In my experience damage gear might be good because with Lawrie out you can stay at low hp without worrying about taking damage . You can have one hp and keep the pressure on
I think that one way to balance the first SP is to only convert 50-75% of damage taken
What is it with Supercell releasing OP brawlers recently?
We've had
Larry & Lawrie
Kit
Mico (Not broken but really good)
Charlie
Cordelius
Hank
hank shouldnt even be in the same sentence as op hes so ass 😭😭😭
@@skrrait he used to be op dummy
@@skrraitWhen he came out, he was the best brawler in the game. His attack was a gigantic nuke because you couldn’t see it in bushes, and he charged his super in 0.0001 secobds
"100% of the time, works some of the time" 😂
Amazing video! I can't wait to unlock him with my saved credits!
If u play heist with the reload star power and u throw ur ult on the fault for every bullet hé hits on vault or players reloads ur primary fire so u almost have unlimited ammo and u can SHRED THAT VAULT SO INSANELY FAST ITS CRAZY
Kairos makes everything fun
I recently got Hank rank 30 on day 3 of Larry and Lawrie without one on my team in bb with a 10 win streak at the end (47k player), I think that they aren't actually that op and that you just need to learn how to vs them with ur comp/brawler, and that since they are so different to other brawlers a lot of poeple find it hard to do that, the one nerf i would give them would be an indirect nerf where lawrie also charges enemy super but a bit slower. For the record i do not have Larry and Lawrie
Famous last words
Yes!! A Kairos upload ❤🎉
Imo his main attack should be the taser and if u want to be a thrower u need the gadget to switch with lawrie because he’s too good and it’s the main attack that’s the main issue along with his tankyness
It's nice that this video is kind of sneak peak into the next pay to play episode.
i agree with kairos *for me* 15 buck for 1 char is just too much, but hey you got coin power and skin up to you then
Will there be a clash mini video anytime kt?
14:21 you know a brawler is broken when...
I don’t mind the new brawler. The only thing I have an issue is the detonation after the attack lands which is imposible to doge when he attack more than once
And is wider than the initial attack
7:34 you could have thrown Larry far away over the wall for you to actually survive that
“Oh, I died! That’s a first!”
Lmaoo 🤣
Ty Cairos it helps a LOT i got today thay are so op
Finnaly the Goat is here 🔥 (i talk about Larry & Lauwry and Kairos of course...)
BUZZ and BELLE are getting a HYPERCHARGE (shown in official BrawlStars Video)
i like how they say its an epic brawler but with what we see now hes likely a legendary the fact that he is a thrower and has a shotgunner next to him is OP but he is not worth buying because most ppl play with edgar and if he uses his star power 25% more hp when hitting someone he can easily take down larry and lawrie unless they have many power cubes
Anything coming soon about the CCTV footages ascociated with the brawlstar lore?
No I don’t have Larry & Lawrie
No I haven’t really played against him
But I want to give nerf suggestions, if you disagree that is very reasonable. I have a few ideas so maybe 1 or two could only be done
1. Nerf attack range by 1/3 tiles, just a small amount
2. Larry Damage 1680 - 1500
3. Nerf super range but 1-2 tiles
4. Lawrie Damage 600 - 450 or 500
5. Make Lawrie have Heath decay like Megs old super, make it only take effect like 3-5 seconds after being spawned
6. First gadget, give some kind of reason to chose it
7. Second gadget, decrease heal 30%-25% or 20%
8. Second gadget, make it limited range like Nita or Jessie gadget
9. First star power transfer 60%-80% rather than 100%
10. Second star power decrease the amount of amo Lawrie transfers my 20%-40%
Thanks for reading. Now hypercharge concept
Speed: +10 for both
Damage: +10% for both
Shield: +10% for both
Small cuz they both get it
Make it so when hypercharge is active, Larry’s ticket machine fires fire attacks which act like a mini amber, it can burn bushes and give very small burn damage like stu
When Lawrie is spawned during hypercharge he a small explosion attack which can destroy walls but attack range for Lawrie is decreased and now is one projectile, however his attack will return to normal when Larry hypercharge runs out.
Mythic gear time, idk if supercell still remembers this lol
I think this should be something small like attack radius increase every 3-5 seconds like sprout
Please don’t cancel me I haven’t even started my carrier
the way that u saying what going to happen is so funny and sad at the same time
I’m low on coins and could only get them to level 9 with a gadget and gear, and yet I’ve gotten them to Silver 1. They’re definitely broken, since I’ve done so well with them not even being at full power
Who else thinks this shielding starpower should be a gadget just so that it will only be active during a limited duration. And we can also use that oppurtunity to make the weapon swap gadget into a starpower so that people will atleast use it since its alternative is no longer the OP dash heal.
I swear they either don’t play test new brawlers or they make them busted on purpose cause your paying extra for a pre-release
Try L&L on boss fight. Whoa. 500k damage with heal gadget and second star power. It’s insane.
Pushing him… or them idk, to 30 was so easy because of the bb map in rotation
I got Larry to 790 as a power 9 with no star power. Crazy stuff, I also got a 25 win streak with some cracked randoms
Kairos’ facial expression is just Muaaa perfecto!
Kairos they changed the amount of trophies for bot matches from 100 to 150 like a year ago.
For me they are very good i have Them and i wasnt even losing many times i did do much wins and i even got now Rank 25
They nerfed them in the new update but they are still OP
I suggest you use the other starpower in heist, you and your super melt the safe in 20 seconds
They just mixed lola and barley and gave it stereoids 💀
If you use other sp in heist , you can get unlimited ammo whenever Lawrie deal damage
So, I think his second star power is also broken (and I mean that in two ways: stupidly op and also actually not functioning properly). I had a Larry & Lawrie on my team in a Heist match who had charged his super and was basically uncontested on the enemy safe. He threw Lawrie onto the enemy safe and was then able to throw out almost constant attacks thanks to the ammo gain he was getting from his star power. There was only one enemy brawler there at the time, and they had just respawned and still had the respawn shield, so the only damage being dealt was against the enemy safe. I don't think it's supposed to work against non-Brawler targets.
it is. it simply gives you 30% of your ammo bar(so one ammo) when lawrie HITS a shot. And he. isa shotgunner shooting like 15 projectiles per ammo.
@@normalchannel2185 "While Lawrie is in range, reload 30% of your ammo whenever he damages an enemy." I assumed the "damages an enemy" part referred to damaging Brawlers. If it's actually meant to work when he damages ANYTHING, then that's kind of stupid; he'll get extra ammo back if Lawrie hits other spawns (including things like Penny's Salty Barrel and Spike's Life Plant) and basically get to destroy them for free. I don't see how that could possibly be how they intended it to work.
@@ShadowFoxx3120 i mean, those things are still your enemy. Now i think supercell meant for it to be ambigious, since such a big thing would have came up in playtesting(in fact all the ytubers mentioned this) and wanted to use that to push early access sales up, then nerf it saying we did a mistake and it was totally from the start meanf to be brawlers
@@normalchannel2185 Oh, yeah you're probably right. There are other abilities in the game that specify things like that (EMZ's Hype star power referring to enemy brawlers and Mico's Record Smash star power referring to non-Brawlers), but something this big couldn't possibly be missed accidently. It's sad seeing Brawl Stars go in this direction.
The first gadget is better if lawrie dies but you swapped but gets spawned you have two shotguners
Larry needs the same thing grom has where his attacks always have a set time before his attack lands, cause right now it’s so unfair
But this would be the 5th thrower who does that and i don't want that to happen really
(Only Barley and Willow's shots land faster the closer they aim which isn't much)
@@keky7565 Larry and Lawrie are already op they need that grom thingie
@@keky7565 Dynamike?
This is insane, they need to reevaluate how they release new brawlers. The brawlers can’t be this strong and so poorly implemented. Hit shots not counting at all is a huge oversight. Slows not working, behind being able to heal and not having to even be next to each other for it to work makes the starpower broken.
Healing instantly gadgets only heal. (Bull, Bibi, Byron) Heal plus effect need a requirement. (Gene) Not even needing to dash a centimeter and you gain more than a Mortis is just so… idk.
They made Mico, Kit and the twins were made in a short timespan but this is just too much. The devs need to step it up.
That "advertising" strategy sounds like Byron's "buy a thousand get 1 free"
Already got them on rank 31 yesterday
If you use the super and then order:swap and then the super again you can get two shotguners😮
my problem with the pack is, when I use tokens to get them, the skin is no longer accessable to me. (new season just started)
I love this guy he always puts a smiel on my face
The damage switch star power literally make him invincible, its straight up just a 7000 dmg shield and his ultimate refills so quickly its insane and who even thought that making his normal attack deals 3000 damage is balanced, yea sure the attack explode 2 time but the second time literally double the range so 70% of the time it would hit you like its not a case of dynamike where it actually take SKILLS to land your hits, larry is just a button mash simulator
Never would I’ve thought Kairos would be starving for coins
I love it how he gets excited whenever he loses or dies
Btw while Kairos was showing his battle log to show that he didn't lose you could see a rank ten match loss on 8:40 😂
How does this work with ruffs star power that gives everyone in the range more hp
Heist was broken with the reload star power and the recall gadget.
I was wacthing ur vids in a year and a fan and a fan of lex
Ideal nerf / change list.
Reduce larry and lawrie health from 6800 to 6000
Reduce delay from bomb attack by 0.2s
Reduce bomb attack from 1680 per hit to 1580 per hit
Increase super charge rate from 5 hits to 8 hits ( 4 bombs with both ticks hit)
Lawrie his twin no longer charges super. ( so you cant just chain supers.
Reworked first gadget from switching guns to. Lawrie his twin gains a 20% shield buff.
Reworked second gadget from switching places and healing to lawrie his twin gains 30% reload speed buff.
Reworked 1st gadget to. Lawrie the twin takes 100% of all damage you recieve is redirected to him> lawrie twin takes 25% of all damage is redirected to him.
Reworked 2nd star power. To every time lawrie damages an enemy you gain 30% ammo to you gain 15% ammo instead.
Also reduced lawrie twin damage from short spread attack from 4800 if all hit to 2800 if all hit
Also i jusr realised that his larry has fast move speed equal to crow so nerfed his move speed equal to 720 normal like barley.
bro this is crazy especciall right after kit
The stardrop thing actually worked tho wth the chances of that are crazy fr
12:32 bigDprego played with you 12:37 bigDprego played against you lol
I think a good nerf for Larry and Lawrie is his first star power Lawrie takes 2x the damage that you would have taken and for the second star power, you only reload 10% of your ammo.
10% of your ammo is basically nothing
my friend got the brawl pass plus with code kairos and then got 2 legendary starr drops in a row, followed by a mythic one