Windows 11 - Is it nice?
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- čas přidán 24. 05. 2024
- This video covers first impressions, my thoughts after a month, and some benchmarks... for some reason.
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0:00 - Summary
4:13 - TPM 2.0
4:28 - Benchmarks
7:02 - First impressions to Windows 11!
7:48 - Really petty stuff
8:27 - Start menu's reduced functionality
9:16 - Uninstalling stuff
10:16 - Default apps
10:55 - Microsoft Edge and TEAMS!
11:43 - Settings page improvements
12:22 - Icons and backgrounds (Alpha)
13:10 - Notepad
13:32 - Overlapping windows!
14:11 - Stability
14:35 - Conclusion
15:32 - New features
17:33 - What IS an OS to you? - Věda a technologie
There's a wait(500) command lurking in the OS that one programmer is saving for a rainy day to make their update improve performance
😭😭😭😭😭
bro 😂😂
Dude if you keep leaking those facts Microsoft will sue you for breaking the NDA
500 milliseconds for each filename parsed that quite adds up :p
🤣🤣
Microsoft: „This is the most advanced operating system we have ever created!“
Also Microsoft: built in delay
@@ruakij6452it makes happy to see people who use other OSes taking time to watch Windows videos and then going extra length to even comment … usually such people are very happy with the OS they use and call other OSes shit
@@ruakij6452 found the linux user lol
@@cheddartaco oh no we found a person who's had enough of Microsoft's shit and finally moved on.
@Paul I Used windows 7 early preview builds since the first, and it didn't have this BS, some Ux designer problably thought it would be "nice" feeling.
Fr they said windows 10 would be the last windows
Microsoft: Win10 will be the final version
Apple: Here's Mac OS 11
Microsoft: So guys, y'all ready for Win11?
Truth
Apple M1 scared Microsoft. They needed something to sell windows laptops.
@@DanielAnderssson except apple sucks entirely.
@@notsafef0rlife nah apple killing it recently
@@DanielAnderssson sales doesn't mean it's good lmaoo
Never thought someone would nerf right click’s glorious functionality more than a shooter.
This person really over exaggerated it and even lied in this video about it. We like this new one. All of the most important features are there and it removes most of the useless rubbish that third party apps add.
@@Fans.of.Darth.Vaders.Empire Yeah except rename is important, so it should not be included... I'd rather disable the third party shit if it means I don't have to use extra clicks to rename something. A lot of people do a lot of renaming for productivity. It is a terrible change, that could be good if they didnt hide certain things
@@Hybred We think you misunderstood. In windows 11, the rename button is in the first right click menu. The person in this video was lying.
@@Fans.of.Darth.Vaders.Empire or maybe he didnt know it was a thing at the time? Stop refusing to believe that people make mistakes
@@mahoolum One can accidentally lie. We never said nor even suggested that it was done on purpose.
that new error sound will be what the next generation has to hear when trying to open .rar files
Bro, don't give them any ideas, soon free software will be banned and you will have to pay to open a jpeg
when you realise we've been using winrar since 1995
7zip gang wya
@@wixardo at their boyfriend's house
@@wixardo Hi! 7-zip user here, though I use in through Wine on Linux.
Some say Philip's SSD is still getting faster to this day...
Vroom
Day 80,.... SSD is at 142% and rounding down.
In a few weeks he can use his SSD as RAM
Breaking news: UK Gamer's SSD breaking the sound barrier
@@FlodoTheHobbit In a few decades it will surpass the speed of light
i'm sure microsoft wants us to use the Windows search so we'll make more typos and boost Bing's traffic
Bing? Microsoft edge
If I am forced again to switch to windows 11 like I was when I was using 7 I'm legit going to use the 'run' prompt to open things
Sometimes I don’t even make a typo and it sends me to bing
@@BusinessWolf1 so.. linux
Windows 11 feels like a desperate attempt from Microsoft to lowkey make a MacOS clone
Yes
Which is good. Im not a mac os user but i hated many aspects from windows 10 like not having animations or quicksettings or settings in general, which apple just did better.
They've been doing that since Vista.
@@ChrisBa303 the problem is though they simplified everything. what was great about windows 10 was its customisability and its control. when i look at windows 11 it feels like I'm being locked down
more like an excuse to sell, but yeah kinda
omg he sounds genuinely angry in this, windows 11 claimed another soul
whatsapp is already on windows btw you can just sync your phone to it
bad os is the worst thing that can be bad, app you can uninstall/dont use but os is not rly that easy to change etc
@@zanasltu4458 yeah windows 11 sounds like shit
hi
hi eltio
"My winrar demo expired"
What an entry line
Yes. Especially after paying £52.87 for the registered version, physical copy and 1 year support plan that expired 4 months ago. Lol.
7zip FTW
@@kroket1337Now Nana zip (windows 11 fork of 7-zip)
“Yeah so we took a really minimalist approach to this update”
“Not at the expense of functionality right?”
:)
“Not.. at the expense of functionality... right?”
I wanna add:
"Yeah so we took a really minimalist approach to this update"
"You finally made literally everything consistent and got rid of doubling and Windows 95 looking menus, right?"
:)
"Con... Consistency... right?"
"Don't like windows 10? We could make it worse, see?"
-Mister Michaelsoft
😆
I wonder if he uses Binbows
@@Yuti640 LMFAOOOOOO
windows has always been clunky OS. but it has so much freedom, but yeah clunky, but freedom, but clunky, but.... ye
@@opalanimz ...freedom, but clunky
loved the "win rar license" way to measure time
day, week, month, winrar free trial period...
Unrelated, but your pfp looks really cool! What's it from?
@@BebxOfficial It's from "The Midnight Gospel"
@@kirasmith1147 Thank you this looks cool
His full version must be on another pc
It's like they learned what to do with the start menu on Windows 10, then immediately forgets it on the next redesign.
They learned what to do with the start menu on Windows Vista. In my opinion Windows 10 start menu is piece of unusable shit.
@@edga7490 Just out of curiosity - why do you feel that way? I personally thought 10's start menu was properly functional, with the "all programs" list on the left and the pinned programs on the right. Only thing it's missing is pinned _files,_ which I can't put too much blame on as none of the other Windows had it either. Unless I'm missing anything else, I never really found it to be "unusable". It doesn't sacrifice functionality for aesthetics. I personally prefer 11's start menu better, as it seems to prioritize important files first - pinned programs on the top, recently-opened files on the bottom, while the "all programs" list is hidden behind an extra click since it's not a useful feature. But 10's menu isn't bad at all, compared to, say, Windows 8. Functionality-wise, it's a pretty decent alternative to 7's start menu imo.
@@rapidreaders7741 I'm too lazy to answer to that question, because I not used old start for a very long time and I need to do some research, but the main reason is functionality. Also its annoying to type "Control Panel" or "This Computer". There is more than that, but as I said i need to refresh my memories. Maybe its just a question of taste, but I have had better time with Windows 7 start menu.
@@rapidreaders7741 the file search is absolute garbage in windows 10, it'd much rather bing search on the internet. soooo many files that 7 could easily find within seconds, while 10 completely refuses to acknowledge their existence. so now i actually gotta remember where i save random portable programs and scripts. but that's such a 2012 gripe, i don't imagine you will find many people that can even REMEMBER how much better 7's menu was, so sad that something turns to shit and everybody just forgets how to make a good product.
@@edga7490 Yeah understandable. I agree that 7's start menu had much more thought put into it than 10's, with everything you need right there by default. It's much more intuitive for sure. Although with 10, you can just pin "This PC" and "Control Panel" to the Start. It's an extra step, but doesn't necessarily rob of previously existing features imo.
The fact that they can legitimately bring ANY of the improvements they make in Windows 11 directly into Windows 10 and they'll just work is PROOF that Windows 11 is completely and utterly surplus to requirements. They could just package all of the new improvements and ideas into a Service Pack for Windows 10 - much like they did with XP and 7. It's not like the differences are that major to begin with, with the exception of the TPM requirement bullshit which I can (sort of) understand why they can't just update 10 with that, since it could potentially make a LOT of people's already installed OS suddenly stop working correctly. Although even that I think I heard someone managed to bypass by editing some of the code (or registry files I can't remember) of the installer to convince it TPM was switched on - since it checks once during installation and doesn't bother to again after that - and WIndows 11 actually works perfectly fine with it switched off.
Literally THE most pointless "new" operating system I have ever heard of. Even more so when you realize it's not even about earning them an extra buck, since the upgrade will be free of charge anyway!
Yes and most of windows 11 features can be added to 10 with third party apps. There's one even officially from Microsoft called power toys or something like that that adds most of win 11 features and a bit more.
I think that has to do with being able to handle P-cores and E-Cores, which didn't exist prior and I imagine would be pretty fundamental to how the kernel & processing schedulers etc have to work.
Having said that if I have to choose between Linux and that horrible piece of garbage, it might be time for me to start studying up. Hmmm how do you close vim
on windows 11 you can turn off tpm after installing. I had big issues with my 12th gen pc since windows said, lmao scrub kys its to old. but after finding the slow pc down option in the bios I could install it, and after the installation I turn it off again.
I mean if you want saftey windows is the wrong OS to use anyways.
they make money in other ways
I've never understood why Microsoft has to keep moving stuff around in the goddamn operating system. I used windows 7 for a goddamn decade and the instant I went to windows 10 I was miserable for about a year because stuff got moved around for some reason. while the GUI looks nice and all the way things keep shifting around make me want to run windows 10 until end of lifetime. I hate how the volume icon works, locking me to changing a master volume setting for the whole system unless I right click, which is why I have a Mixer shortcut on my taskbar to sidestep the slightly slow process that is going to it the "intended" way. I miss the days when I upgraded the family computer from XP to 7 and had an easy time getting to stuff because it wasn't like I just moved into a new house and didn't know which drawer I put my cutlery in. The Shop teacher at my old high school welded a box that sockets were stored to a workbench to prove a point and now I understand why, it only took using a few operating systems. the old proverb "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" rings true yet again and at this point id really like if people stopped fixing some things.
I have fully decided to run win10 until it looses support because this is just garbage, nothing about this is an upgrade, everything is slower, uglier (i hate the rounded corners) and working on it? Yea forget about that coz the productivity is as low as it gets
@Chitan thus is the problem. I'd rather keep windows around for gaming. In all honesty though I wouldn't be against having a second boot drive to run Linux for general use. I'll keep the recommendation in mind though. Thanks for the advice
You sound like my mother when they re-arrange the grocery store.
@@Blazberry_Yaint valve is developing proton. With it you can run windows exclusive games on linux. Its still in development, but so far it looks promising
@@KT8D5 well if that turns out to run well I might become a member of the Linux cult
"Yes, lets give people Pin to Start instead of Rename or Delete." - Microsoft logic
Win11 has a rename button icon (3rd icon, first row...)
Del to delete, no need for an on screen button
@@ZenTunE- why not both? Give the options
@@bootchoo96 It's only an issue when Microsoft decides that said option is more important than something that should be there.
@@destructivforce2894 like what?
I've never heard Philip so angry, even when coaches observe short a.
Short A, which is the same height as long A.
Philip: "but since upgrading..."
Captions: "but since "upgrading"... " (in quotation marks)
lmao
The only thing that comes between us is krill and money
you can rename file with the [...| ] button at the top of the menu after you right click
or f2
or hold left click for 1 sec
@@lptc5 I do, always have. Old habits die hard I guess
or you can double click slowly
yeah F2 is my goto for renaming, since im shit at cs and miss rename button and instead click off of the menu
F2 is standard in a lot of programs too so it feels very natural and works almost everywhere you expect it to
You can use F2 to quickly rename a file
F2 is the way.
@Him Unless you're using an on screen keyboard you're gonna need to move your hands to your keyboard to type out the actual name anyway, so doesn't really matter. You're just waiting an extra second for no reason
@Him Yes, but you still need to move your hand anyway to rename. You won't be saving any effort, you're moving your hand no matter what. If anything if you want to rename a series of files more lazily you want to rely on only keyboard. Use enter, arrow keys, and f2 to navigate, and then type the names.
@Him Im not being pedantic lmao. After you have done the two clicks to start renaming, right? Now what? What's your plan to actually rename the file? Oh right, you have to move your hands to your keyboard anyway to type out the new name. Either you
A) Select the file using mouse, move your hand to keyboard, hit f2, start typing
B) Select the file using mouse, wait, click again to start renaming, move your hand to keyboard, start typing
You're still moving your hand to keyboard, and its the same number of button presses. The only options that allow you to only use one accessory is either using an on screen keyboard or some other mouse only input method (and you're not convincing me that is somehow less work), or by exclusively using keyboard.
My faith in the youtube userbase has been redeemed, I honestly thought I was gonna be the only person in here who knew this til I saw your post.
Also, pro move is learning to type reasonably quickly with just one hand (your left) so you can leave your right hand on the mouse. If you aren't doing that, are you even trying?
Insane how it seems that everyone always have to start from the beginning again every time they should be improving what already works.
Wimbows 69
if they would begin from the beginning for once… but for generations they just stick stuff ontop of older stuff… old and new both have 90% functionality, so you mostly have like 3 ways to do something and alwys need to decide how is best in that situation. they should build a legacy version for business people who need it and give the rest of us a fresh clean and organised new start
i think thats fine because thats how innovation works. the problem is that they mess up every time
@@trashtrash2169 some examples: Edge + Internet Explorer, Changing settings yes that means settings vs control panel, cmd vs powershell vs terminal, uninstalling programs or features… there is a lot
Interesting.
Only the first 3 issues are an absolute deal-breaker for me. I think I'll stay with win10 for a few more years
Honestly just the first one alone is enough for me to stay away lol
Long text - all you need to know is this: Searching for apps can break frequently in Windows 11. It's annoying. Renaming and deleting files is NOT harder than it was before. stfu philip. Taskbar customization partly gone, but you can center it now if you want. Explorer is laggy when navigating folders. Found slight performance increase in Minecraft, didn't do any good testing nor benchmarks though. Trust philip on this one i guess.
Long text - 'Why am i so bad at making compact texts?' version:
The search bar not working is horrible! Been using windows 11 myself for quite a while now and it happens about once every second day or so, and the only thing to fix is is a reboot. Not sure if i'm talking about the same thing here but when you press your windows button and type in the name of an app, that search bar also breaks. And i use that to open 90% of my apps.
But I have to say, the second point about rename (and delete btw) being hidden away just isn't true. At the top of the new rename menu, there are four buttons in one row, which don't have any text: cut, copy, RENAME, and DELETE. Yes, that's right! You can still rename things in two clicks in Windows 11. Amazing. Another pro tip, select a file and press F2.
Removing the old separated task bar that also showed the app's names is also very annoying. It's almost as bad as the search bar not working. Also, no more small taskbar icons. I'm on 4k and 100% scale and find the buttons to be too big, so they'll be even bigger on 1080p since you can't set the scale to anything less than 100%. You can force the icons to be small via regedit but it breaks the date (which will then be displayed below your actual screen, with only the time being visible)
Delays in explorer sucks. A lot. Litterally seems like delay(500) somewhere in the code, no joke. When you click 'open file' in an app, it also opens explorer to let you select a file - with all the features of the real one, except the delay is magically gone now. Yeah, makes sense. Thanks microsoft. Also, sometimes when navigating out of a folder explorer will litterally stop responding for 2-3 seconds before continuing.
UPDATE: I've booted up a Windows 10 VM and just browsed through some folders. My pc only has one graphics card (cpu doesn't have any graphics processing), so anything the vm does shows up at my screen 100-200 ms late. BROWSING FOLDERS STILL FELT MORE RESPONSIVE. How can this even happen? Why is the new explorer so bad? I never knew just how bad it was until i did this direct comparison but trust me, it's really bad.
Other things:
There's a phone-like autocorrect you can optionally enable (Default is OFF, don't worry!), where typing something in windows apps, browsers, etc, will show three most likely words just above your cursor that you can select from. No annoying auto replace like the one that plagues your phone, but it does sometimes block you from using the up arrow and caused a bit on confusion.
Round window borders. These are gone in full screen and barely noticeable, but god i hate them so much whenever i look closely. Can't even turn them off with regedit, cmd, or anything, as far as i've seen.
2025 will be ended the support for Win10.
Because work-reasons, I cant switch to Linux or MacOS fully, as much as I would like to. I have to change to an hybrit system in the future, where I have to switch between different operating systems with something like Unraid, only to get all the functionallty I need or I have to use a lot of third party software just to do things that already worked in Win 10. -.-
Ill stay with it for as long as i can
I hope there is a boycott of 11 or it flops so hard that gates realises we dont want this shit
15:50 WhatsApp is on web: web.whatsapp.com/ and you can even download the app www.whatsapp.com/download
It feels like with some of these decisions with Windows 11, they're changing aspects of it for the sake of changing it, instead of changing it to improve it.
Yup ever since Windows 7 things have been going downhill. Same thing with android. they've pivoted to making things worse.
It’s true. And you look at comments on news feeds and people are literally just happy to see something new.
This is why I switched to Linux over a year ago
@@unpotatoedsalmon I'd use Linux if it weren't for the fact that 90% of software and games I want to run are incompatible for it. If I REALLY wanted to use Linux for something, I could prob just use a virtual machine for it.
@@kelownatechkid Lolipop’s original material design was far superior to the downgraded icons and aesthetics they’re doing nowadays imo. Lots of “designers” changing things to justify their jobs seems to me.
I love how there's the old Pringles logo hidden in the thumbnail
Damn good eye
I cant find it. Where is it?
@@Hlwthere increase the brightness to max and look closely in the center, it's faint
Below the weird chip looking things, above the ‘dows’ in ‘windows’. Turn brightness up
Found it
renaming a file is literally the third symbol on the top when you right click a file/folder
he somehow didn't check the icons and people in the comments are trying to find another way
To be fair that icon is an exceptionally terrible visual design
@@beachbum111111 Yeah, I was wondering why it wasn't a really obvious white pen writing a scribble shape to contrast with the dark mode UI. I like the fact that common folder options are their unique buttons now because having to go down a list of options every time I wanted to rename the folder felt super clunky and outdated. Windows 11 still has a bunch of issues though, but changing the edit icon would fix this one issue and would be a massive improvement.
I was on the fence about moving over to linux. I'm glad microsoft has taken that choice out of my hands.
11 is dookie but Linux support is even worse
@@HowManySmall Is that Linux's Fault. People who make software can easily make their program compatible with Linux, its just they don't because they are lazy. Right now almost anything works on Linux, Thanks to Valve and Wine making Windows programs compatible. If you don't like windows spying on you, just use Linux. If you hate Windows using 4gb of Ram use linux uses max like 800mb. Give it a go, before you judge it.
@@xpdatabase1197 no ones is saying its linux's fault but that doesnt change the fact that it is an issue. i dont want to have to use wine or VMs to access my programs thats my choice
@@shadowxxe Give me examples of programs you use. Most of times there are native alternatives, which can be either a little worse or sometimes way better in some aspects.
@@xpdatabase1197 Premiere Pro, After effects, core temp, cinema 4D, Word, Visio, excel. Also im sure there are alternatives but im used to the layout of preimere and after effects etc and like i said i dont want to jump through hoops to use the prograams i want i have nothing against linux its just not for me
The biggest kick in the teeth for me is the inability to move the taskbar, I've had it on the left side of the screen for ages, now it's stuck at the bottom.
Punished for your heresy
Yeah, having the task bar on the far left of my surround gaming setup was a godsend.
Oh man, I have my taskbar at top so that is going to be a pain to get used. Hopefully, people find a workaround to move it.
@@Rednesswahn How is the position of the taskbar relative to the origin going to be more inefficient if it's further away? That makes no sense. Plus modern computers easily have the computing power to do tasks significantly harder, so a taskbar in a different spot isn't much of a worry.
@@Rednesswahn Even though the draw origin has nothing to do with taskbar placement or performance, wouldn't it follow that the taskbar being far away from the origin is the best place since it's the only thing on the screen that stays mostly the same, allowing everything else to have "close to origin" priority?
Every single word spoken in this video came right out of my soul.
This. Especially the long icon rant. Straight from my soul.
The rename button is literally in the first row of the right click menu, in the five buttons grouped together. Cut, copy, paste, rename, and delete, in that order
PEBKAC
Oh yh your right, though it’s only four for some reason
At 0:45 there's only 4
Ah yes. Indeciphrable icons. A perfect replacement for words in a context menu.
@@Timeward76 Oh come on, you're just being nitpicky now. Hardly indecipherable but I guess it's easier to just jump on the hate wagon than hover your mouse over an icon or just use the keyboard shortcut to rename / do what you need to do.
Windows is like a treasure hunt, you're dropped on an unknown island and somewhere there is the good old™️ Uninstall Software setting, but you have to pick up your shovel and dig a couple of miles first
Not in my experience, at least not until 11.
14:45 the only thing cutting edge about windows 11 is cutting edge from installed programs.
this joke is way more funny than it deserves to be
Ooooohhhh snap!
if the new steam console makes gaming on linux with anticheat possible im leaving windows and never looking back. this will increse my lifespan by at least 7 months
And then spend significantly more time fixing the linux desktop dumpster fire. Good luck on that.
@@Nors2Ka Because the Windows user experience is just so good xDddDdDDDddDD
@@Nors2Ka what do you want mate?
That guy, i think they fixed some of roblox in the new wine 6.x versions
What the fuck am I reading
I've been using Linux the past half year and it is fantastic. The amount of customization you have is amazing and has allowed me to tweak my desktop environment to the perfect experience for me and has massively improved my workflow, and because of Proton gaming is pretty much on par. Only thing I use Windows for anymore is games with anti-cheat or VR since I have a WMR.
Philip, I'd love to hear your thoughts about this a bit more than a year later!
I swear the delay is part of some Microsoft strategy. My company recently upgraded their POS software from MS Dynamics Nav (from roughly 2007) to Dynamics 365 and everything has a delay, click a drop down menu, wait half a second for it to appear, click a text box, wait half a sec before you can type in it. It absolutely infuriates me.
maybe remove the feature in registry
I swear I don't have that delay. Everything is 100% instant
@@jenkem420 weird...
@@DemeDemetre Pls how ?
As a fellow 4K monitor enthusiast, the forced taskbar grouping is hell and simply unusable.
I use a dual 4k too and I like it.
"I wrote a script for this video, but I couldn't search for it as the search bar randomly stopped working."
Well this bodes well.
the problem i have with windows 11 is that its new design (and simplicity) reduces performance and productivity, even though these 2 things should ALWAYS be more important than design.
Windows 11 has that windows 8 feel. Microsoft remember how well windows 8 went when you changed the start button? Hopefully Microsoft does not fall into the same trap.
Nah man. I think windows 11 is pretty good actually.
There's just a lot of bugs and things to work out. They released the beta too soon. That being said, they probably released it this soon because it was leaked, so they had no choice.
I still use Windows 8 on my old laptop. Very light system
I am still using windows 8.1. I am satisfied with it lol.
@@aravpanwar2431 8.1 at least partially fixed this problem, windows 8 had many stupid features, and win8.1 only purpose was to adress them.
win 8 didnt even have the windows button on the taskbar
@@aravpanwar2431 My PC uses windows 10 because of the better compatibility for games and support for the DX12 API and 8 (the original 8) because I need the headache that is windows 10
Windows 11 looks like nothing but a nightmare for Desktop work, it's these subtle things that add up and completely slow down peoples workflows and do nothing but clutter up the screen. I sure can't wait for this to be shoved down our throats again on release.
Hopefully it fails like Vista and 8.
@@LSK2K Hopefully MS patches these issues
@@LSK2K I was hoping never to read the V word again. It's kind of like losing The Game.
@@Alucard2077 They see them as quality of life improvements so no they will not "patch" anything.
@@Myuunium well Windows 10 is mediocre
I can't believe that you devoted an entire video on freaking windows. Lets hope that Linux will be the next gaming platform and lets aim for that. It is apparent that Microsoft moved all its assets on Azure and kept 2 developers to continue with Windows development 😅😅
I say great
If Windows need anything, it's LESS development
@@kokorochacarero8003 😂😂
Not gonna happen.
i couldn't agree more. brilliant video
The thing windows is doing is dumbing down the os so "normal" users dont get overwhelmed by options and dont get "lost". But "power" users as i like to call it just get angry. If im having to fight my computer to get permission over maps that hold apps i flip my shit. I feel the same with newer android and ios's. They just take away things to make it "easier". I hate it
At this point I've had to just learn hotkeys, learn the .msc names & keep shortcuts to all the Windows functions that used to be readily accessible.
Windows is like "oh are you SURE you want Control Panel classic view? But there are so many useful points of access, it's so scary there! Wouldn't you rather have this useless stripped-down "settings" app instead?"
Thats the exact reason I've found macOS completely unusable as an operating system. Its dumbed down to the point that it gets harder to use day to day if you plan to do anything beyond browse the web and whatnot. Want to access application files? Fuck you, go get a separate file manager app because the default one doesn't let you see beyond your documents folders. I hate the path these operating systems are taking lately. If Linux wasn't such a pain to be getting into, I'd be using that and only that.
@@dimitriyakovic1522 linux is nowhere near as hard to get into as it used to be. Try giving it a shot!
@@suop1234 NO GAEMS
@@suop1234 the thing is, most apps i use are not compatible.
I laughed so heartily at the “final F U before going to bed”
hahaha
@Satan preach good sir! We’ve all had enough
“only you know you love her when you let her go"
0:38 the rename option is the third icon on the top. If you hover over these icons it tells you what they do.
renaming files is the rename files icon at the top
Plus you can always press on the file and then hit F2... this will rename it as well.
or just left click it once when it’s already selected
@@Reicter_ oo never knew about that. I have wasted so much time in my life....
@@Reicter_ yeah F2 is rename on almost every OS, super handy!
is that the third icon? cause that doesnt intuitivly look like "rename"
When will we get 2kliksphilip "The Linux experience"?
Yeah I'm curious too
When he gets a Steam Deck.
@@LeafMaltieze every steam deck user will be like
I uSE aRcH btW
Probably never ;)
@@Payro :(
I feel like Windows 7 was the best operating system and Windows 10 is just modernized Windows 7.
Trueeee
True
Eh, I'd say it was but a bunch of things that were handy to have got removed. The ability to skip or remove certain updates, for example, or compatibility with older software reaching back all the way to 98.
I still feel the same way about windows 10 compared to windows 7. Many mundane tasks that took one or two clicks on windows 7 now take a ton more on windows 10, due to having to navigate useless and poorly designed menus.
Like what tasks?
Ross Scott is gonna flip a table when he hears about this
I wanted to flip a table when I watched the first minute of this video. This is a worse version of the shit that made windows suck in the first place.
Literally Cannot wait for it. He must be feeling like the industry is devolving
@@asbjo It is. You can thank the managers of these big tech companies for that. Stupid motherfuckers trying to manage geniuses.
Microsoft especially. The managers at that place don't know shit about tech, they're only working at the company for the money, and they do all of that office politics bullshit. None of the employees with great ideas ever get any one of them in the system because it's ultimately up to the managers to decide what gets put in, and we can see just how that has manifested.
Not even a minute in and I already never want it.
Same. I'm not against change, but only if said change is justified. This just feels like Microsoft changing shit for the sake of it.
@@_ikako_ They problably are making better structure inside the OS, TCP2 for better security, and better integration with linux OS (WSL 2 or 3 probably).
That will not affect the final user anyway just developers, but their UI is definitely not good, they stomping past issues again... I thought they learned after windows 8, they problably have some new integrants in UI team, but God, even a basic course of UX would had dealt with most of the issues.
Well, Ui is easier to solve at least.
Yeah there's no need for it
I just hate the fact that they only care about the look but not functionality. I don't care if my window look like XP if my PC is faster and working just fine.
@@_ikako_ 15:08
I do agree that there is beauty in simplicity, but if it is at the cost of convenience and performance then it isn't worth it
The main thing that I think we benefited from windows 11 is the cool default background (even tho it doesn’t have a windows logo)
The good thing is after you've been getting used to the 0.5s delay for a few months and you find out that there's an obscure way to disable it, the UI will feel incredibly snappy for a few minutes
what's the way?
@@eiwangadoy6941 I don't know if there is one or what it is but I predict one will be found
@@eiwangadoy6941 Probably accesibility options, that's where you get the option to turn off transition and transparency effects in Windows 10, I'd assume it's hidden there in Windows 11 as well
@@NNOTM I can never imagine they'd want the delay. 99.9% chance it's a bug because beta imo.
@@cate01a maybe they want to avoid crappy animations on older hardware and add a delay to make sure
Hey Philipp,
Just letting you know that F2 is the universal keyboard shortcut for renaming stuff like files in case you want to use it. Have fun
I was about to write the same. I use that shortcut a lot. Not it is only faster but also much more practical 😉
Thanks mate
Whoa, I had no idea about this. Thanks for posting this!
thanks
Only learned about this from a Blender tutorial, lol
9:44 the fact that you can search "add / remove programs" in the search bar has always been a feature, I remember doing that in Windows 8 lmao
Re: the rename problem (dunno if other commenters have mentioned it)
See the cut/copy icons at the top of the menu ? The third one (the box with the bar) is the Rename button.
I swear when Microsoft discontiunes Win10, there is DEFINITEY going to be custom win10 shell replacement for Win11.
Under the hood, it's the exact same OS, it has barely any changes from Win10 besides the GUI (interface).
I hope that would at least make it usable.
Yea i dont like change, but i CAN also tell if the change is for better or worse. I still can geniuinely say that Win7 and older start menus were much better than even Win10's, Win11's start menu is EVEN WORSE!
I just wanna use my computer, there is no reason to "fix what ain't broken"
I'm still on W7 on my desktop and I haven't regretted for a day postponing upgrading to 10. I do have 10 on my laptop, but I don't use it that much and it was my school and IT studies pc so that's where I would experiment with all the new stuff, but my desktop is my sweet home W7 and will remain so for the time being.
We could just make windows 10 have windows 11 conpatibility and security updates only prority.
@@GeneralBlackNorway support is drying up as we speak
@@silvervens yea tho it could cause small compability issues when new programs are released for win11 and new features are added in windows 11 that would be hard to get in win10
for example now Windows 10 gets DirectX12 updates trough windows update. yea it could get installed manually with an installer, but it would be less reliable than the standard update way. there would be more and more stuff like this that would be just more work to get on win10, so i personally believe porting Win10 features to Win11 would be more long-sighted solution than the other way around.
@@CINCASTTV I don't really need support and my dad is still on XP while his 98 just recently died xD
7:18 "It feels like it takes more clicks to get where i want to go"
Just do two clicks Philip
Underrated comment. Have a like.
This made me exhale trough my nose
No
You don't need 2 clicks, there is an icon at the top for renaming
Click > Wait 1 sec > Click
I absolutely do not take that search bar for granted. It sometimes takes several minutes to finish the search and more than half of the time I don't find what I'm looking for
Fax it's horrendous
To rename a file, you can use the 3rd icon at the top of the menu between copy and delete.
(I'm talking of the 4 little icons without name above the menu when you right click)
Those icons are hard to see, hard to click. That's because they chose to remove the text from them for no goddamned reason other than some idiot liked how it looked.
Surely the same idiots who designed Windows 8.
I had my fears about this. MS probably thinks nobody actually USES their computer..
dont you guys have phones?
Designers make this stuff now apperantly, not engineers
Well, actually more and more ppl nowadays barely use the computers and just use the phones....
Unfortunately
But gaming is still a thing
@@U6kCtBuN Indeed!!!
@@Ultra289 - yeah, and I am worried this change in win 11 is a symptom of that. I would have preferred if they made a win 11 for actual power users. One with a high emphasis on productivity, shortcut keys, and more efficient ways of moving about the features.
CPU limitation, having to have an MS account, all the nonsense of being thought of as a service and not as a tool is a big NONO.
Sphilip only touched the tip of the iceberg. Once W10 no longer works, I will clearly move to Linux. Thank you valve for working to be compatible with it.
Valve may be compatible but like 97% of games aren’t. This is my biggest problem about switching to Linux. This as well as just other apps. As far as VMs go, I don’t exactly have the money nor the interest to invest in 32gb of ram to put 16 in a VM
@@Josh-zq4no uh no? Like 75%+ games are working
@@colbyboucher6391 what’s proton ??
@@Josh-zq4no a compatibility layer that runs most steam games
@@miles2142 oh I see. I’ll have to look more into that, thanks
9:30 The EXACT same things were in Win10, too.
Good old Programs and Features opening in a windows explorer frame? Check.
The Apps & Features page in the UWP settings app? Check.
Uninstall button when searching for an application? Check.
0:40 you can rename by just clicking the 3rd icon instead of clicking on show more options (or even faster, just press F2 to quickly rename a file)
Mark a File, press F2, type, done.
Next DirectX Version requires Win11 for some fishy reason. And im shure youll need it to use the next big thing like RayTracing 3.0 or whatever. It feels like a Scam in its current state.
The more I see on windows 11, the more I want to switch over to Linux.
I'm on the same boat except with Windows 7
Once proton works well enough and Win7 stops working with the programs that I use, I'm definitely switching to linux.
@@mbsfaridi I installed ubuntu on my laptop and I'm getting used to that rn
Windows 7 and windows 10 is where I spend the most time blindly going through settings trying to fix some obscure problem with no understanding of how the os worked so I love them the most.
In the right click menu you now have a row of icons at the top for cut, copy, paste, renaming, deleting and such. So you don't have to go to the more options screen..
I always just hit F2 to rename stuff, but hiding all the old options behind a separate menu sounds absolutely atrocious...
@@diydylana3151 Windows 11 now fee like another fail OS. 10 bucks everything will be fixed for windows 12.
@@diydylana3151 The fact that you can accidentally rename a folder or a file and break an installation of a critical program, without having any idea that you did so, means it probably is a good idea to hide the Rename button on a default installation. BUT, and it's a huge but, there should be an option to 'always show advanced context menu' or something that competent users can find and enable without too much back-bending.
@@diydylana3151 they were trying to mimick apple.
@@diydylana3151there is a rename button there, it's the third button on the right click menu
@@diydylana3151 ok so basically:
You right click on the file you want to rename
Look closer in the video, there is a rename icon on the right click menu
You can use that to rename stuff, but the creator of the video missed it
How much data does the SSD benchmark actually read and write? I wonder whether repeated runs get performance boosted by some kind of adaptive cache?
If you already have your left hand on the keyboard when you go to rename a file/folder, you can select the file and then press F2 to rename. Same number of actions as right click > rename in Windows 10, but slightly faster since you don't need to move the mouse a second time.
Whatsapp has had a PC version for years. It’s synced with your mobile version and able to send files straight from PC
0:40 The rename has been moved to a small unlabeled button at the top of the context menu, no need for an extra click :b
You can also double click on the file but slower to rename it... Like click once, wait, click again.
sure but it really shows how it can be confusing for the avg user.
that is probably the weirdest change in windows 11, if not windows in general
@@MrFreakydeakydutch I hate that, Once it accidently selected whole folder of 1000+ songs. Had to spend whole day to rename them back
@@Skanic they'll 100% make it more obvious
lets be honest Philip. The footage from that capture card looks amazing
I really wouldn't worry about the cinebench results. Cinebench I've found is really sensitive tasks running in the background, and windows could have decided to be doing something during your runs. It's hard to disable all background tasks to allow for sameness in conditions.
Software features better be addable to the new context menu. I have added about 6 extra program options in there, out of which "Edit with Notepad++" and "Upload with ShareX" I use pretty much daily. Extra click would be very stupid. Being able to add features to OS context menu is incredibly useful feature, it's functionality that only an OS can and should provide.
I can't figure out if Philip is sarcastically raging over the 'Android Native WhatsApp' as a needed feature, or if he doesn't know that there is an official WhatsApp desktop app (WhatsApp Web)
the whatsapp desktop app, at least in my opinion, isn't very good. I had to use it for a year and really just didnt like it.
@@yalldrinktea whatsapp in general isn't very good in my opinion
xD
Telegram is so much better
The app, which you download, is not good. But the WhatsApp website is VERY good. When I'm using my PC, I only use WhatsApp web, since it released back in 2015.
this ^
Just use the website version. Been using it for years, no notable issues so far.
Everything you mentioned here just screams that windows 11 just simply isn’t ready
No not really
This is the experience you get when using the dev channel. On the contrary, the experience I'm having with W 11 is actually pretty nice compared to other dev builds of W 10 I tested.
Of course it's not ready. It's a preview of an OS that won't be released for months.
Well yeah, thats why its in beta.
That's been the case for both Win 8 and Win 10. It's just a trend for them at this point. I don't understand how hard it is for a multi billion dollar company like Microsoft to put out something decent. Every new iteration is two steps forward, five steps back. Sure it may look pretty, but navigation, customizability, and versatility will always be lacking in comparison to other operating systems, especially with all the bloatware that comes bog standard for them. Another person said something that hit the nail on the head, and I'll repeat it here: Windows stopped being Windows ever since they started selling the operating system to be used as a service instead of a tool. It's as simple as that.
The new design looks so good!
About renaming files, at the very top of the (first) right click window, the icon with a rectangle and a curssor going through it is for renaming.
"Every thing takes time."
Making you comfortable with the unreasonable. So you may accept the unreasonable. And never resist the unreasonable. AND PAY FOR IT.
@@2kliksphilip Pushing the envelope by pushing the user close to the edge, one second per release.
@@2kliksphilip 😳
@@GeorgeNoiseless By windows 25, we're waiting entire minutes. Wake up sheeple.
0:39 Actually you don't need to go to the sub menu it has just been replaced with an icon (3rd to the right)
Woah that makes way more sense
There actually IS a button to rename a file within new context menu. Still I agree that there's aesthetics (or lack thereof due to the inconsistency in the UI design) over functionality...
I've never agreed with a video more in my entire life. I was afraid I was the only one who missed expanded taskbar buttons
Moving to user-friendly Linux distro seems better and better with each new Windows release.
Yeah Linux is great, but if you're content creator or game dev you're fkd and Windows ( or Mac in some cases ) is the only OS you will see for a while.
Unless you love to torture yourself so then you could use crappy open source & other alternative software.
@@ExacoMvm Or you can try Wine. It never failed me. Didn't tried it for creating content, though, maybe there are issues I'm not aware of.
@@smitias_8474 Most of these apps I have in mind won't work with Wine as these apps require the Windows "core" or something like that. Even not all games work on Linux w/ or w/o Wine so with software it's a lot more complicated.
For example Autodesk Maya is somewhat supported in Linux but installing/running it can be a challenge.
@@smitias_8474 or, instead of leaving windows bc it's so "horrible" that you rush to go run windows software anyway on Linux bc "reasons", you could just run the software on windows...
@@TreyMotes Ah yes, because I like to use software that isn't available to me for reasons other than the capability of the operating system, and so therefore try and emulate it for an operating system I better enjoy, I should give up on my preferred operating system and be forced to constantly run the bloatware/spyware. What a gigbrain move.
I bet your the same person who gets angry when they're console exclusive is ported to another platform.
Hey, you can rename files and folders using F2 as a hotkey, you do not need to right click. Hope this helps :)
@@willeklof didn't know that one, thanks! gonna make my life even easier and more "productive"
i love you
@@Euroliite I always love to see my parents be impressed how fast I do things with shortcuts instead of having to click everything.
tried to teach them some of the more advanced shortcuts, but their generation really only get comfortable with stuff like ctrl + c / v / x ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
and you can do it in batches by highlighting the files, holding shift, selecting "copy as path" pasting the list into excel, find & replace the path up to the filename.extension with nothing (or use fixed width text to columns & cut off) - put your new filename.extension in the adjacent column, then in the next column put the following formula if old filename = A1 & new filename = B1
="ren ""&A1&"" ""&B1&"""
the result should look like
ren "old.ext" "new.ext"
if it doesn't look like that, adjust the formula until it does - currently on my phone & can't test it.
autofill the list then copy it
then go back to the location with your files, click the address bar, type 'cmd' & hit Enter to launch command prompt from that location
paste the copied filled formula values in press Enter if need be, & all the files should be renamed
this may seem a bit convoluted but if you do this often with large batches of files it will save you so much time!
he's called 2kliks for a reason
F2 default button to change names on a selected file, works on all OSes I've ever used right out of the box
Microsoft should automatically move your 2 most frequently used "more" context menu actions to the main simplified one.
you. keep talking.
Renaming isnt hidden away. The third button in the top bar is rename. They moved super commonly moved items to the top bar of the context menu. In this order. Cut. Copy. Rename delete I REALLY LOVE THIS CHANGE. For. A trackpad user. Less movement is better . I also have always used the grouped tabs.
You could also use F2 for renaming files
ive been playing with linux distros ever since they announced 11 and i saw how shit it was. and with philip doing such a deep dive ive noticed that the UI for win11 looks VERY similar to the Linux KDE plasma desktop environment. the settings menu, start menu, general layout of the right click, and even down to the annoying animations that immediately need to get removed. makes me wonder if win11 doesnt also have a way to remove the animation delay like Plasma does.
It's almost identical, it's crazy. Watching this gave me some deja vu to when I first installed kubuntu.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they did base their design off of it.
While I also hate the right-click menu redesign, there's rename command literally right there, just with an icon instead of name, also LPT: F2, to begin renaming from keyboard, and if you are renaming multiple files TAB to _traverse_ them (and like many commands +SHIFT to cycle backwards).
i actually like the rounded egdes quite a lot, i really liked it when they finally fixed chrome's ugly taskbar design as well, it makes me happy :)
This feels a lot like my set up on Linux. The look is really similar, with the curved edges, floating windows, centralized start menu. It just seems to not be as streamlined, and easily traversable, and very bloated. Maybe it'll be better when it releases officially.
It looks like a casual user's kde setup. It's weird...
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
@@TheBostonUrbanist im so happy this happened to me
@@TheBostonUrbanist Idk if you want GNU/Linux to get more adoption, but this is not the way to do it...
@@EddoWagt its a copypasta
@@EddoWagt ik lmao, I just had to yaknow
When I upgrade my build late next year I'll be making the switch to linux. With the steam deck and other improvements with gaming on the platform it was the last thing holding me back.
same here, was waiting for that for sooo long now
Same, win11 will introduce more bloat + spyware
I was a programmer for about 3 years a couple years back so I'm already very familiar with the debian based distros. The transition will be nice. I'm thinking within a year everything will be set up for me.
Depending on what you play you could be switching already tbh. With games that are not online, as protected with anti cheat, you shouldn't have too much bad luck
@@happygofishing Could... could 2021 finally be the year of the Linux desktop?
Hey I noticed an oddity in this video: You said you were using a 4K display, but in Settings, you had the recommended resolution of 1440p selected. Which resolution are you actually using then?
0:37 You can rename with a symbol on the top when you right click the folder