Tying a Pattegrisen Shrimp variant with Davie McPhail
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- čas přidán 29. 11. 2014
- Materials Used;
Hook, Saltwater Shrimp
Thread, Uni-Fire Orange
Legs, Red Polar Bear or Bucktail, Diamond Brite Sand Shrimp and Sherbet Dubbing mixed, Coral Rhea and Pink Peacock
Eyes, Black Easy Shrimp Eyes
Rib, Pink Wire
Body, Diamond Brite Sand Shrimp and Sherbet Dubbing Mixed or something similar...
Body Hackle, Chinese Cock dyed Coral and Peach
Back, Salmon Pink Antron Yarn - Sport
Hi Everyone,
Thank you very much for all your very kind comments, they really do mean a huge amount to me...
All the very best Davie
I'm sorry mate....this is not a pattegris...you're using all the wrong materials and the fly is just wrong...wont sit right in the water....whiting farm...go look em up
This is one of your most amazing flies yet. Thanks for sharing your talent!
You make this look so simple.
Definitely need to be tuned in to this work to achieve this quality.
This is well crafted and unique.
Nice Job, you really make it look easy. Thanks for the video and please keep them coming.
The fly looks amazing! It was very pleasing to see a slightly different take on the 'local' pattern. I never leave home without a couple of these guys in the flybox. ;)
Sir Always Like the way you simplify things Your Tying makes it easier to Put my own spin on it !! Thanks ....
want to do some seatrout fishing off the coast of ireland this winter and was wndering about some flies to tye,thank you davie you always make it easy to approach with your positive advice,have a good christmas and lets hope for a 'little' bit of water for the rivers next season
Another amazing lifelike critter! Excellent!
Great flee Davie, I have a go at this, I'm just starting trying to tie these style, franc n snelda tubes I have found good.
I give this a go, thanks for sharing your video
Davie as usual a beautifully tied fly,tied as only "The Master "can tie them.
Just beautiful pattern 👍
Always come back to this pattern a fantastic bit of tying Davie i tie them a lot more sparse they really do work incredibly well for sea trout, bass etc.
Thanks 👍
That is a gorgeous shrimp fly! Could eat it myself..
Amazing Davie thanks
If i end even half this good, i'll be ecstatic...A+ sir...
this would have been my number one request
This man is an artist 👌
Nice patern. I tie mine with select craft fur. I use some sort of indian hen mottled for the mouth part and only uv ice dub for the body.
Must be fun to tye this shrimp Davy. Though i don’t think i can use it in my Holland, stil gonne tye it for fun! Thnx
Hi Dave, this fly is alluring for many salt water predators. Here in Italy I am using it with success for fishing sea bass.
Ciao
Luca
Like a real, BRAVO !
You are the best Davie, congratulations, i will tye one in white color for the peacock bass in Brazil. Thanks for the vídeo. Kind Regards. Marcelo
Thank you.. Marcelo...All the very best Davie
Wow...beautiful fly. Id eat that myself.
Hi Davie, Merry Christmas n Happy new year. You change yr vice….
Like to see you tying salt water flies
Hijparryprodeal,
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you as well....Yes I have changed my vise which can be bought unlike the one I used to use as it's no longer being made..I don't tye many saltwater flies though I would like to add one or two over the winter...
All the very best Davie
I like long shrimp! I have a couple of my own patterns, large shrimp, not too hard to tie.
A real beauty 😍
Thought about doing the back of the fly in 2 prosesses?
First tie inn the stuff going to the back of the chrimp (The tail)
Then another for the back its self.
It gives a mutch bether durability of the fly when it comes to larger fish.
Just a though :)
master-hand !
Genial !!!
it looks like a good fly for bone fish
Nice looking fly , needs a bunch of materials not redly available . But still a great shrimp 🍤 pattern :-)
Master fly tyer
Great tying as always davie.
Could you suggest a substitute for the rea , thanks
Hi rouryglen,
What is used a lot in these flies is Whiting Spey Hackles so I would recommend these more than any other material, I've attached a link to a cape which you may like though it would be easier to have a look around your own area to see if you can find some...
www.lakelandflytying.com/73061/products/whiting-spey-hackle-hen-cape.aspx
All the very best Davie
Hi Davie, I also like to buy a Regal Vise. Let to hear your advice. I bought my First vIse The Norvice with all the different Jaws. But I cannot get the thread very tight by rotating the vice, I give up and bought a marc petitjean premier master rotary that can be use as a c-clamp n also a desk pedestal. But seems the Jaws starting to get rusty. Heard the Regal was good and I know you can't be wrong. I like to know the normal rotary or the revolution rotary would be more desirable. I only fish in the sea and Hooks size is no. 4 to 4/0. Greatly appreciate to hear your valuable input and opinion.A big game Jaw or the stainless will suffice…or need both… Thanks in Advance. Jparry Singapore
Hi Jparry,
If I was you I would contact Regal direct and explain to them what you tye and what flies you tye and if the revolution rotary action would be best as I just use the normal rotary action version as I prefer this as this is the style I've always tied with....The big game version would be the head that you would need as it holds the hooks sizes you tye on..
Let me know how you get on...
All the very best Davie
HI Davie, Thank you for your advice. I like yours rather then the seller as their interest may be different. Although I just started fly tying I am still more comfortable tying the thread round the hook manually then rotating the vice. I just could not mastered it to get the thread real tight on the shank by rotation.
I only rotate the flies occasionally to look at n apply a little adjustment.
I think I will go for the normal rotary regal.
I saw yours was a stainlessJaw, But the big game is not stainless,, I am afraid it will get rusty, my Norvice brass finish all tarnish n becomes ugly, and the marc petitjean becomes bait rusty and I have to apply a thin film of oil…So the stainless caught my eyes…
I love to watch you tying your flies, you are really crisp and detail in all your flies… thank you so much for sharing… hope to see u tie a baitfish for salt water soon.. Cheers Japrry
G'day Mr McPhail,
Out of interest.... who inspired / taught you to tie flies ?
He or she must be extremely proud to see the exceptional tier that you have become ,
You have certainly been an inspiration to me in my tying.
Keep up the good work mate.
Nick Bell from down under.
Hi Nick,
At first I used a book to learn how to tye called Lets Fish the Cylde by Robert C. Sharp as I was only interested in tying dry flies to fish the rivers as I wouldn't fish until I saw fish rising...I read many magazines too and there were many tyers that had great articles which helped me. But most of what I learnt was through fishing and working on waters and tying many patterns over many years. The most inspiration comes from kind people like yourself asking me questions and letting know how much I have helped them as this is the best inspiration anyone can ask for, so thank you for all your kind words...
All the very best from Scotland..
Davie....
hi davy, I love the look of this shrimp, (don't be surprised if I eat one myself) if they are good for sea trout, are they no good for salmon?
Hi John,
I'm sure the salmon would have a go at one of these as they look great and swim well in the water and like you said if the seatrout would take them then so would the salmon......I'm glad you liked the fly..
All the very best Davie
another cracking fly davie,would you fish this fly 'just' in the salt for bass,seatrout? were i fish for seatrout the bottom pools or tidal
Hi +ERIC LONG,
In salt water and in the tidal pools would be the best area to fish this fly as this is how it's mostly fished. I've just tyed 16 of this one and 16 of a purple version for friends that are going to Canada and they are going to be fishing for Steelhead.
All the very best Davie
Where do you buy your materials
Great fly. I just started fly fishing wondering if you could send me one to try out thanks.
Hi Davie...
This weight your using...that's awesome..is it lead with a sticky side ?
Never seen that before, but keen on getting this material, instead of the round lead I'm using now...
You got a name for it or a link..? EBay perhaps..
Regards from Denmark.
Hi trullevuit,
I have attached a link to the tape I used in the video, I was lucky enough to buy a spool many years ago..If you do a search you may be able to source it closer to you..
All the very best Davie
www.finecal.co.uk/420-12mm-33m-3M-Lead-Foil-Tape?language=en¤cy=GBP&gclid=CNnHj5z1v9ACFYsA0wod8ToPVQ
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any recommendations as to where i can find rhea feathers in that color?
HiRichard Lee,
Try this site... www.flygal.ca/shop/rhea-feathers/
ATB Davie...
What is that, an artistic work or a lure? Beautiful.
Hi Enrique Santiago,
The Pattegrisen is a very popular fly for seatrout, I have attached a link to more info on it for you to see...I tyed it with Rhea instead of spey hackles as they can be hard to find but the Rhea does work really well..
All the very best Davie
go-fishing.dk/2009/01/”pattegrisen”-the-perfect-shrimp/
Not got time to tie myself ..where can I buy these from ...do you sell to the public or do you have an outlet where I could purchase these hope you can help thanks
I know a guy on eBay, he tied me some crazy flies before... maybe he could do that for you
are they strictly for sea use, or can you use them in rivers as well?
Hi John,
Yes you can use them on the river and for other species as I've tyed it for salmon and even steelhead for friends that went to Canada..
All the very best Davie
Luar biasa
how to u prepare dubbing having wile bother with it davy cheers gavin veneard dubbing am using
Hi Gavin,
If I'm having problems with a dubbing I'll put it in a small coffee grinder that I have and pulse the blender to mix and air out the fibres which should make it easier to dub..I also like to blend in a finer dubbing if this doesn't work like rabbit or even some lite-brite or something similar which will help bind it which will help it to dub onto the thread really easy..I do have a video on youtube which I have attached for you to see how I blend dubbing..
czcams.com/video/mqGckr7TrcE/video.html
All the very best Davie
thanks davie gentleman must get look at link thanks again best fly tying I ever seen thanks for help davie cheers
If you are going to ty Danish seatrout flyes, wich i Can only welcome, you have to tackle the perfect leoshrimp by Kern Lund
nice fly, but the big thing about this fly is tying it with salmon pink spey feathers but very nice fly original by Claus Eriksen -- danish fly
Thats not the big thing, its up to one themselves how they want to make the fly, i bet you do different than Claus Eriksen yourself.
Hi Davie, beautiful ty, but is this for freshwarer or saltwater?
Hi Nilson Miranda,
It is tyed for the saltwater but would would also work for salmon and steelhead..
All the very best Davie
@@DavieMcPhail, your ties are truly fantastic, congratulations, a big hug and all the best for you too. 😃👍
Hi Dave would these catch salmon in the UK also ??
Hi Uel Stewart,
I'm sure they would take salmon as it's a really good pattern...
All the very best Davie..
@@DavieMcPhail thanks Dave great videos pal
Hey Davie,
Excellent pattern. Thank you very much. I use this all the time in Southern California saltwater this summer.
Estimated fish caught with this fly:
Calico bass: 50
Barracuda:1
Mackerel: 20
Bonito: 1
Sand bass: 2
Catalina blue perch: 1
Surf perch:1
At the bottom there's a few fotos. Mainly for the saltwater rod I built. But there's one foto of a small calico taken with this pattern
classicflyrodforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=99080
Thank you for your time and knowledge
Kind regards
Colbee
Well Done Colbee and thank you for letting me know how well this fly has worked for you, it is a variant of the original shrimp though you would have to give the credit to the gentleman that tyed it...Many thanks again for taking the time to post the different species of fish you have caught and I hope it catches many more for you...
All the very best Davie
Hey Davie i'm wondering where you buy your material,
thanks.
Hi Roxanne Franck,
Over the years I've bought materials from many places, though I would say that I use a lot of materials from Veniards, as you may know they are a wholesale company and supply many shops..Is there certain materials you are looking for?
All the very best Davie
+Davie McPhail Thanks, but what im looking for is some copper wire
Hi Roxanne Franck,
I've attached a link to bulk spools of wire which you may like to buy...
All the very best Davie
www.flytyingshop.co.uk/product-p/ftswirebulk.htm
+Davie McPhail Thanks for the support, also you have been a very big part of my tying. -thank you
Hello davie/anyone what's a good fly for mullet cheers
What happened to your LAW vise?!
Hi Marcelo Jost,
I still have the Law vise, it's sitting on my shelf if I need it. I use the Regal now as it's a vise you can buy as I do get asked a lot what vise I use and when I say you can't buy the Law any more I felt I was letting them down....
All the very best Davie
***** Very thoughtful and kind of you. In a world of fewer and fewer nice people it's a real pleasure seeing things like this. Hope we can meet one day so I could shake your hand and chat a lil bit. Warm regards from Brazil :)