This is exactly what I love about this scene, not only is he laying out his worldview but it also reflects his loneliness, which is caused by him being completely unable to think outside of himself even when trying to relate to others. So good.
@@OscarGonzalez-fu5ps it's hilarious that his responses were all curt "Yes sir" responses and then he finally starts to open up when he feels like Logan might actually want to engage but nope
That’s just so perfect. Bc he so predatory and people like this tend to form a relationships which the person in front of them is only there to play a part😂
Thats my favorite scene from the entre show. People are economic units, there is no afterlife, thats the way Logan see the world, thats his cosmology. It's funy that in the EP when he dies, Roman check the stock market falling down and says: "thats the size of Logan Roy". Amazing script!
Smart comment because this is the first scene Jesse Armstrong imagined - in some sense the show actually grew out of this scene, where a titan explains his worldview. I think this was in a Succession podcast episode.
It’s funny cause Logan still wants a Catholic funeral and opines that Shiv’s wedding isn’t Catholic-I always felt he was struggling with his own worldview towards the end of his life. He wasn’t a believer but he feared potential punishment for his deeds-in his heart, he knew he’d lost his soul long ago and thought he didn’t care. Now he’s facing death and realizes maybe he does care.
Colins is just a great guy. Doesn't care about looking smart or interesting. He knows who he is and the part he plays, and that gives anyone an enough confidence to deal with a Logan.
Logan is by far one of the most powerfully written and interestingly written characters of all time. I think he truly loves his kids, but he’s so jaded about life and the purpose of life that he loses the reason to even love his kids. He sees that he loves his kids but that makes no logical sense because all life is simply a market for others to exploit each other for gain, so why love at all. At the same time, he cannot fully abandon his kids because he feels this irrational love, so he allows them to be in his sandbox to play. So many more ideas and possible concepts, which makes him so interesting.
Very well put. Whatever semblance of humanity is left inside him is for his kids, the rest belongs to money; to the market. It's this inherent contradiction that allows him to even entertain the idea of any of them being his successor, which we can see by the end that they are clearly not up to the task. The deep, bitter, truthful irony of the show is that humanity has NO place at the upper echelons of the capitalist world, even the tiny scraps that Logan gives his family.
I love this scene. Logan finally talking about his own mortality was great but the way collins acts cracks me up. Really feels like this is the most logan has ever said to him before and it really caught him off guard
One of the things that was fascinating about Logan was this additional layer of his character that was not uncovered during the show but at times there were hints. There was a certain mysticism about him, like when he said something like “ i wouldn’t make a buck if i didn’t know a few things about the world”. It makes sense that the writers hinted at that because it’s a character trait that for good or bad a lot of the 0.0001% have…
This is probably the best scene in the entire series. So under appreciated. When I saw this scene I knew I was gonna end up re watching succession for the rest of my life 😂
This (almost) monologue is telling of logan roys dissociation with seeing humans as humans. He views them as economic units. Thats even how he sees himself. He doesnt believe theres an afterlife bc he doesnt have a soul. He doesnt hope. Hes a shell
He describes a person as: "it" That's about all you need to know about him. He's not to be envied, he's just a stonecold empty vessel, walking around, looking and saying words. Lonely and scared.
Logan is the Pygmy. This scene reveals how much his life has truly amounted to nothing-he doesn’t even really have developed thoughts just rambling and starting to wonder if there’s anything more-before trying to justify there can’t be (if there is, it means his life on the accrual of material at the cost of his soul has been a waste). He’s the nothing man.
@@YungM.D. The afterlife is an obsolete concept, we decay and lose consciousness that's all there is to it, wherefore Logan's materialism is correct. It's unpleasant but true
This show was better than GOT in the end. GOT had an amazing first couple of seasons and then Succession kept going like a freight train faster and faster while GOT veered into the river.
I think this scene is meant to show the human extent of logans dementia, which of course we are shown right in the in the first scene of the whole series. Outside of the superstructure of a massive media organisation, he is floppy, rambling, incoherent, and paranoid, mind jumping from one topic to another, and with a lot of negative views on the world. The company and its expolits are his exoskeleton and his cognitive prop, outside of it he has not much of value
@@titanicisshit1647 it is incoherent as a whole, he flips between saying the security guard is his best friend, talking about the taste of the food, to people being economic units, to the afterlife, to looking around furtively saying 'have my suspicions', all with zero prompting. This is what my grandma would do when she was in a nursing home near the end
It's also the reason he was surrounded by fake relationships, he was practically alone even when surrounded by everyone he knew. He became the crux of their economic benefit, he wasn't really a person, he was just someone to please.
@@TheHackersboss You get back what you give out. Give out compassion and kindness, eventually that is what you will receive, give out ruthlessness and greed, and that will be what your surrounded by like Logan. It's in almost every religious book, the world around you is a reflection of your actions and beliefs, and that's why you should choose to fight for good and good things.
@@TheHackersboss Don't accept that. It's a healthy balance. The seven deadly sins aren't deadly because they are used, but because they are used too much. But one must have some pride for himself. The world fights those who are kind, you prove yourself stronger by remaining compassionate. Don't expect anything in return, you have to fight for it. In the end it's not about winning or losing, it's about how you fought in life.
"Youre my pal" then proceeds to interrupt him the only time he opens up about himself and his dad lol
This is exactly what I love about this scene, not only is he laying out his worldview but it also reflects his loneliness, which is caused by him being completely unable to think outside of himself even when trying to relate to others. So good.
@@OscarGonzalez-fu5ps it's hilarious that his responses were all curt "Yes sir" responses and then he finally starts to open up when he feels like Logan might actually want to engage but nope
He doesn't give a single fuck about your dad.
That’s just so perfect. Bc he so predatory and people like this tend to form a relationships which the person in front of them is only there to play a part😂
Reminded me of The Sopranos, where Tony would love grumbling and moaning to people in his crew, then they'd begin to open up and he'd cut them off.
Thats my favorite scene from the entre show. People are economic units, there is no afterlife, thats the way Logan see the world, thats his cosmology. It's funy that in the EP when he dies, Roman check the stock market falling down and says: "thats the size of Logan Roy". Amazing script!
Profound analysis.
@@emmanuelokine9512 Sarcasm, I hope.
Smart comment because this is the first scene Jesse Armstrong imagined - in some sense the show actually grew out of this scene, where a titan explains his worldview. I think this was in a Succession podcast episode.
@@jacobromines2249 Succession podcast is amazing! It's what made me really understand, appreciate and re-watch the show again and again.
It’s funny cause Logan still wants a Catholic funeral and opines that Shiv’s wedding isn’t Catholic-I always felt he was struggling with his own worldview towards the end of his life. He wasn’t a believer but he feared potential punishment for his deeds-in his heart, he knew he’d lost his soul long ago and thought he didn’t care. Now he’s facing death and realizes maybe he does care.
Great work at letting your best pal give his opinions Logan
😂😂😂😂
Colins is just a great guy. Doesn't care about looking smart or interesting. He knows who he is and the part he plays, and that gives anyone an enough confidence to deal with a Logan.
Logan is by far one of the most powerfully written and interestingly written characters of all time. I think he truly loves his kids, but he’s so jaded about life and the purpose of life that he loses the reason to even love his kids. He sees that he loves his kids but that makes no logical sense because all life is simply a market for others to exploit each other for gain, so why love at all. At the same time, he cannot fully abandon his kids because he feels this irrational love, so he allows them to be in his sandbox to play. So many more ideas and possible concepts, which makes him so interesting.
Very well put. Whatever semblance of humanity is left inside him is for his kids, the rest belongs to money; to the market. It's this inherent contradiction that allows him to even entertain the idea of any of them being his successor, which we can see by the end that they are clearly not up to the task. The deep, bitter, truthful irony of the show is that humanity has NO place at the upper echelons of the capitalist world, even the tiny scraps that Logan gives his family.
@@wepmajoeawesome comment my man
It’s funny that this is Logan’s best attempt at spiritual thinking, he is trying though!
It's very reddit🤣
I love this scene. Logan finally talking about his own mortality was great but the way collins acts cracks me up. Really feels like this is the most logan has ever said to him before and it really caught him off guard
One of the things that was fascinating about Logan was this additional layer of his character that was not uncovered during the show but at times there were hints. There was a certain mysticism about him, like when he said something like “ i wouldn’t make a buck if i didn’t know a few things about the world”. It makes sense that the writers hinted at that because it’s a character trait that for good or bad a lot of the 0.0001% have…
great way of putting it. he is absolutely hinted to be some kind of savant for true human nature
"What is a person? It has values and aims"....It! 😂Logan the reducer
This is probably the best scene in the entire series. So under appreciated. When I saw this scene I knew I was gonna end up re watching succession for the rest of my life 😂
I would say an important scene. Best scene is challenging.
1:30 no dialogue needed to convey Colin's thought and Logan's realization that Logan is just old and dying
This (almost) monologue is telling of logan roys dissociation with seeing humans as humans. He views them as economic units. Thats even how he sees himself. He doesnt believe theres an afterlife bc he doesnt have a soul. He doesnt hope. Hes a shell
top 3 scenes in the whole show at least. the parallel with the ending scene of the show is CRAZY
What parallel?
@@Mopark25 kendall walking in the park with colin, totally pointless (like Logan in this scene/episode)
He describes a person as: "it"
That's about all you need to know about him. He's not to be envied, he's just a stonecold empty vessel, walking around, looking and saying words. Lonely and scared.
Interesting speech astrology you got going on 😊
In other words. Logan is thinking. If there is an afterlife. I'm F**ked🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
He knows he's done something wrong and he's scared so he tries to rationalize and convince himself that there is no punishment.
LMFAO typical greedy man
no hes afraid of death and regret
Miss this show so much
Thanks for all these succession clip uploads from the current season
One man has 2 chickens. Another man has 10. We are the chickens we have.
He ate my f*cking chicken.
Bro an economical unit 😂😂😂
Are you 12? Shut your mouth.
0:06 such a shame we don’t have the full version of this soundtrack
i was expecting him to say “fuck your dad” if it was any other person he’d say it.
The way he speaks and thinks about how others think about religion vs his suspicions. He really is 100 ft tall
Logan is the Pygmy. This scene reveals how much his life has truly amounted to nothing-he doesn’t even really have developed thoughts just rambling and starting to wonder if there’s anything more-before trying to justify there can’t be (if there is, it means his life on the accrual of material at the cost of his soul has been a waste). He’s the nothing man.
@@YungM.D.preach 🗣️
@@YungM.D. The afterlife is an obsolete concept, we decay and lose consciousness that's all there is to it, wherefore Logan's materialism is correct. It's unpleasant but true
@@Ephraim-Michaelyou’ve got it all figured out haven’t you?
@@Mike-mb1yf No, but this topic really isn't that deep
THAT's why there's the "Pascal's bet"
First... "I Fucking WIN"
Anyone know the soundtrack to this scene?
He does make some good points abot people!
People are ants that I exploit and I don’t think there’s anything after death so that’s ok
Anybody know song name?
💯👊🏻
This show was better than GOT in the end. GOT had an amazing first couple of seasons and then Succession kept going like a freight train faster and faster while GOT veered into the river.
I think this scene is meant to show the human extent of logans dementia, which of course we are shown right in the in the first scene of the whole series. Outside of the superstructure of a massive media organisation, he is floppy, rambling, incoherent, and paranoid, mind jumping from one topic to another, and with a lot of negative views on the world. The company and its expolits are his exoskeleton and his cognitive prop, outside of it he has not much of value
what he said in this scene is not floppy or incoherent , you just don't agree
@@titanicisshit1647 it is incoherent as a whole, he flips between saying the security guard is his best friend, talking about the taste of the food, to people being economic units, to the afterlife, to looking around furtively saying 'have my suspicions', all with zero prompting. This is what my grandma would do when she was in a nursing home near the end
it is only incoherent to you. jumping between topics does not equal incoherent. unless you are 12
I can't resist adopting this pov. It's truly a peering gaze into the reality of human society, no matter how cold or detached it seems.
It's also the reason he was surrounded by fake relationships, he was practically alone even when surrounded by everyone he knew. He became the crux of their economic benefit, he wasn't really a person, he was just someone to please.
@@buffobison3099 Im starting to think its a chicken or egg scenario
@@TheHackersboss You get back what you give out. Give out compassion and kindness, eventually that is what you will receive, give out ruthlessness and greed, and that will be what your surrounded by like Logan. It's in almost every religious book, the world around you is a reflection of your actions and beliefs, and that's why you should choose to fight for good and good things.
@@TheHackersboss Don't accept that. It's a healthy balance. The seven deadly sins aren't deadly because they are used, but because they are used too much. But one must have some pride for himself. The world fights those who are kind, you prove yourself stronger by remaining compassionate. Don't expect anything in return, you have to fight for it. In the end it's not about winning or losing, it's about how you fought in life.
@@buffobison3099 a whole lotta fight for a whole lotta nothing if you ask me
I get what he's saying it's like what is a sociopath?
It may sound harsh for the viewers who are watching this, but Logan is a very sophisticated businessman and what he says is true.
That one friend in the group (its me, im him)
Capitalism philosophy in a nutshell