Messed Up Things That Happened On The Oregon Trail Marathon
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- Dying of dysentery in the Oregon Trail game is bad enough, but tens of thousands of emigrants suffered similar deadly fates on their ways west in real life. From the Donner Party to the Utter-Van Ornum Massacre, there’s no shortage of terrifying things that happened on the massive trek to Oregon City.
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Here's What It Was Really Like To Pioneer On The Oregon Trail | 00:00
Ghastly things nobody told you happened on the Oregon Trail | 13:49
Messed up things that actually happened on The Oregon Trail | 19:38
The Real Reason People Rarely Rode In Wagons On The Oregon Trail |
24:09
The Untold Truth of the Donner Party | 27:59
The Deadliest Wagon Train On The Oregon Trail | 39:20
Things in the Oregon Trail game you only notice as an adult | 43:21
More People Died On The Oregon Trail Than You Realize | 48:10
Why Independence Rock Was So Important On The Oregon Trail | 52:19
Oregon Trail: What Happened To The Real Diseases That Killed? | 55:44 - Zábava
Do you think you could survive the Oregon Trail?
Nope! I’m too addicted to my cushy lifestyle.
Survive? Yes, probably. But maybe not everyone in my family (young children 😞).
No
Np....I'm Pembina Metis....we were already here!!!
I'm lucky if I can survive a trip across the living room 😄
I had a great-great grandfather who was born on the Oregon Trail somewhere in Nebraska Territory. His mother, an immigrant from Ireland was several months pregnant with him. She walked until she had to give birth, recovered and then walked the rest of way to western Oregon carrying this infant, her only child. Amazing that this child survived to create thousands of descendants.
I would absolutely love to talk with granny about her journey. To listen to her reasoning for such an arduous trip, even while pregnant. What was her inner drive? Was the trip 'worth it' for her or was it just something she endured.
@@3rdFloorblog I am guessing she wanted to pioneer to the west. She had sold some land in Ireland and came to the U.S. alone. Worked and paid for her brothers passage over, who became New York City policemen. She was about thirty when she married my g-g-g grandfather and thirty-three when she gave birth to her only child on the Oregon Trail. Obviously a very tough, determined woman. Her son and his children made a good life in Oregon.
Fantastic Story and Family History. I'd be Proud 🇺🇸
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My great grandparents came over on the Oregon trail from Oklahoma my grandma was just a small child and landed in Tillamook, Oregon my grandchildren are 4th generation Oregonians 😊
A few years ago having accepted a job in McMinnville Or. while living on Long Island NY, I hired a U-Haul trailer, bought a very used Lincoln Navigator and at 04:00 in the morning set off from Long Island. It was a few days before Christmas. That trip, which I managed in just three days was a complete eye-opener for me. Crossing the continental divide, looking out over hundreds of miles of wasteland, at Cheyenne, Wyoming my intention had been to catch 3 hours sleep in the driving seat and move on, as I'd done the night before but stepping out to put gas in the car and finding it blowing 50mph and a temp of around 20f I thought I'd probably not wake up again.. the next day driving out over snow patched the landscape and seeing maybe 100 miles ahead over the low rising ground it finally came home to me... Those wagon trainers were some hard sons of B*tches and I mean that with an amazing mountain of respect. We have to see that landscape before understanding what they achieved.
If you're a book worm like iam, getting off the main trail, of distorted history by the media and of these new modern day historians, treat your self to family diarys, you'll find everything was black or white with the laws, code of conduct, right or wrong, very little empathy for any fool,
Day by day existence.
What we're dealing with today, on a scale of one to ten, ied rate it at a 2.5 compared to then.
Were those settlers' hard-core SOBs? HAAAAAA read those diarys, insanity was a common thread,
On those wagon trains/ trails, / ruts/ warsh out/ seasonal floods/ quick sand bogs/ land slides, /Prarrie Fires.
From cholera, scurry, rickets, beriberi, yellow fever,, dysentery smallpox, malaria, scarlet fever, food poisoning, starvation, cannibalhization, hook worms and 1000, different parasites.
Not to leave out the native Americans, bandits, psychopath gun slingers, train robbers, ect.ect ect.
Haaaa those settlers has bark for skin, 😂😂😂
I have driven out to Denver several times. Once you get out of the modern city. I could just imagine all the settlers going across the plains, and realize that there was plenty of hills the Indians could hide behind. And that when the Rockies start to appear that they were getting close to their destination. But their suffering was not over yet.
So true
Great story.Thanks..
Agree that the Pioneers were Bad@sses. 😮
Great story, but what job in little o’ McMinnville could entice you? Perhaps the Air Museum? I LOVE McMinnville.
I was able to visit Independence Rock a couple of times. Fascinating to see the inscriptions from those in the past. I’ve seen petroglyphs in New Mexico and graffiti dating back to 1104 in England’s old castles. So interesting!
How exciting
Back in the 1970's I took part on a Wagon Train Cattle Drive in Wyoming just South of Interstate 80 in commeration of the Oregon Trail. I was involved in many different Historic Events throughout my life. Train and Stage Coach Robberies and many other events. Now 85, Wish I could once again. I was a Wrangler as well as most any position on the events.
i ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COOL TO FOLLOW THE OLD CHISHOLM CATTLE DRIVE TRAIL
@@deannapalmer3490About 7 mi from here is part of the old Chisholm Trail in the Dallas suburbs .
It cut through the woods that were behind a beautiful property of several acres ... but it was not something most people could easily find ... in other words it was not a park or a historical destination and so I doubt many people ever saw it ... and then a couple years ago they tore down the big house there and built a bunch of houses on that land ... they totally ruined all that natural beauty ... who knows now what is left of that part of the Chisholm Trail when they ended up surrounding it with so many buildings , so much concrete , driveways and streets .
I don't know what that part of the Trail now looks like because I have no desire to ever go back there ... for me it was gut-wrenching ... that beautiful chunk of land is unrecognizable .😢
And for the past 17 years since I first moved here from up North the trend here has been to take every drop of land and just keep building and building and building 😢.
... many of the towns not leaving enough green spaces . It's terrible ... absolutely must have one more buffalo wing shop and of course all those nail salons .
My great-grandmother crossed the country on the Oregon trail. She passed at 101 in 1974 and was sharp as a tack right to the end. Durable was a quality of life.
I had the chance to go from Pennsylvania to California by car. I was amazed at the distances and terrain the settlers had to go through. We stopped at a place where the settlers had to lower everything they owned wagons animals and themselves. Down a straight drop over 1000 feet to the valley below. Just the beauty of the mountains in California brought tears to my eyes. From California we went to Oregon and again the beauty of the mountains took my breath away. Especially mount Shasta sporting its white cap of snow. Yet the two strangest things I saw on my trip. Were 1.UFOS in Wyoming. 2. Of all things a camel. It was standing in a field in Oregon. It was 20 degrees Fahrenheit out side and had started snowing.
I'm an old man in bad health. So this trip could be my one and only chance to see the beauty of our country. I feel sorry for those people who are so wrapped up in life they fail to stop and take in the beauty around them. I could even find beauty in some of the most inhospitable places I've seen.
I really enjoyed your comment. I would love to see everything in America, especially before it's gone. It would be a dream to drive across this beautiful nation sightseeing. Glad you got the chance & appreciated it. 🇺🇸
I love this comment. I hope you're doing okay!
I know where there is a camel in Oregon!
Seen it a few years back, had to stop!
I couldn't believe it either!
I hope you made it to the Columbia River Gorge, so beautiful up there!!
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Hello Sir, I enjoyed reading your comment. Thank you for just making up my mind to finally take that trip! (I'm in PA and have always wanted to take a road trip to California!)
@@lindsayhalk187When are you leaving?????
I worked as a traveler in Ontario Oregon and while there visited the Flagstaff Museum in Baker Oregon. The wheel ruts of the wagons are clearly visible and the museum, though expensive was worth the experience. I definitely recommend it, though recently closed for renovations, even the drive to the top of the hill has a wonderful vantage view.
The old western, once-popular 1960 TV show Wagon Train with Ward Bond, was a reasonably accurate depiction of life on the Oregon Trail and had many interesting plots and story lines.
reasonable depiction of life on a Wagon Train, maybe. The timeline is all messed up for the Oregon Trail, though. They were headed for California, I think. I grew up near Independence and they had a celebration that celebrated Oregon, California and Santa Fe Trail plus there were more. The Donner Party, for example, were headed to California. The Oregon Trail came earlier.
I think that kids of the 1960's had a better respect for what people endured in the old west, because of the westerns on T.V.! We learned about respect for gun handling and it's consequences and that it was better to be a good, honest person who valued life even to the point of sacrificing one's own life to protect someone else's. We even learned a bit about horses, even if we grew up in the city and never saw a live one up close. 🤠🐴🌄❤️
@@loisruthstrom8143 I had a better understanding of pioneer days because of the stories my grandparents told me. My grandparents were born in the 1890s. My grandfather homesteaded in the Texas panhandle. They have a lot of stories.
@@MadronaxyzTell us a story?!🤠🤭🤣please!
The Rifle Man and I Dream of Jeannie were my role models growing up. Those old shows still ROCK!! LOVE Westerns TOO.
Back in the 80's, The Oregon Trail computer game was 🔥. I've tried modern versions, but nothing beats that green stick figure look.
How many people shot themselfs??
I love that game !!! It was the highlight of elementary school
Remember the guy panning for gold, and he would say "Nuttin" ? We still say it like that.
I loved that game. I was always the carpenter.
The newest one that came out is super super fun!!
I’m so glad he mentioned the relationship between settlers and native Americans. A lot of the Natives actually assisted, helped, and traded.
Shame the way they where treated 🤦🏼♂️ definitely embarrassed
yEa We ShOt At ThEm FoR No ReAsOn, ThEy WeRe FrIeNdLy, MuRiCa EviL
Cooperation was always the better way. What I do not agree with is that the native Americans lived "peacefully" for 100's of years before the white man came. NOT TRUE. They were constantly warring, enslaving, and stealing from each other. And the white man idiots who slaughtered all the buffalo and hunted down peaceful natives are just as bad, my point being is that there are two sides. It has been human nature forever to dominate each other for resources, you can't blame any one group despite the urge to hate and scorn.
Most were savages
@@rezzer7918 and most of the new settlers were not very nice. Entitled to something they thought was theirs. Actually, still like today. We’ve grown, but have not learned. Tell your story, but spread LOVE, not hate.
I grew up in the middle of Wyoming My father would take us on day.Trips along the Oregon trail.We would see graves along the road and you could see the. Ruts the wagon wheels made in the ground, There were also graves some had.
I am bed frames marking their graves.
You could also see where they would unload. The wagons to lighten this was in the 1970s. My dad was so kind to show us that needs stuff.😮
Can’t believe that anyone would have thought of taking a wagon through Weber Canyon. When building I 80N (now I 84) the canyon was closed for 2 years. And the route up Echo canyon wasn’t much better.
Some of the Donner party wanted to head north to the Oregon Trail. I believe they did not make it. Recently found out that the Donner Party assembled in and departed from Springfield, Illinois. Abe Lincoln was invited to join by one of his good friends who was also a principal organizer. Lincoln considered it, but wife Mary Todd was against it. Lincoln also had a good law practice and 2 kids, so he declined.
Lincoln was serving as a member of congress in Illinois during that time. Not saying you are wrong about your claim, but it doesn’t seem likely based on his history as a congressman.
Such a cool fact, tyvm!
As anyone with a wooden boat will tell you, there is very little that can't be fixed by a skilled carpenter on a wooden vehicle.
2:38 I stopped at Independence Rock back in 1982, climbed to the top to read the carved dates and names of pioneers. Well worth the stop.
I understand that I had a great-great Aunt Nell traveled the Oregon trail and served.
Also told of my Great-grandfather, Hills, was a Wagon Master out of Oklahoma.
Sad to say, that is all I know of them 😢
Love the video
I came for the history, stayed for the fresh techno beats. Ya’ll definitely sourced some bangers🔥
Ive been up and down the length of Wyoming many times via I-25, you can still see those wagon rutts if you know where to look for them.
I watched these dudes metal detecting the Oregon trail, which I thought the trail was protected by a park service. They found gold coins and all kinds of artifacts from the thousands of people that died along the way.
You thought wrong.
Yes they did. I have a lot of treasure hunting magazines with stories of the things that were found along the trail.
A parent would do literally anything to keep their child alive. I don't blame them.
Paranoid about hostile natives?
There was a very real threat and the natives had been at war with each other for that same land for 100's of years. The settlers had good reason to be concerned.
Irish gypsies were living in this type of horse drawn wagon up to the 1970s in Ireland, the wagon was known as a barrel top wagon.
Thank you
(I think the Gypsy wagons were better designed, though, lol!)
Shortage of oxen.
Well they still have them at least in England they do as I saw some documentary about the gypsies or the travelers just recently ... they showed one that was beautiful as it was covered in gold leaf all inside .
I'm pretty sure it was one of the documentaries either about the Appleby Fair ... or it showed some clips of that fair .
My family waited to move to Oregon...until there were cars and moving trucks!
Growing up just 6 miles from the official end of the Oregon trail, I have always had a keen respect for how difficult a journey it must have been.
I know the terrain, and it's better here than in many other areas along the way. Considering how difficult the terrain is here now, and how much rougher it was then, with primitive technology... it's a feat of strength and determination to have come that far.
Dysentery Dysentery Dysentery.... I read that word so many times on Commodore 64 it gives me nightmares now lol haha
The two week break at Ft Bridger was the nail in the coffin for the Donner party.
Or was it the 8 days waiting on Hastings before someone went to look for him?
The 11 days gained by cutting those in half might have saved them.
There were many mistakes that were made by the Donner party sealing their fate. They started off roughly about 2 weeks behind schedule (kicking off in the middle of May rather than end of April/Early May) as well as taking Hastings Cutoff, as well as taking several days to find Hastings/rest their oxen before the final push of the summit. All in all, if they had avoided Hastings Cutoff entirely (which added 125 miles onto their journey, and nearly doubled the amount of days in which they returned back to the original trail) they might have survived.
Lets talk about the Mountain Meadows Massacre.
Those pesky Mormons...
Gosh I have an idea 💡 for you …try some music that isn’t psycho techno, the effect is most disconcerting. It would have been so easy to put a banjo or fiddle player on.
That music is not psycho techno as you described it, it's generic rock n roll...😂😂😂😂psycho techno😂😂😂that's hilarious
You didn’t mention childbirth on the trail. Those women were risking their lives two fold. Could you imagine giving birth on the side of a dirt road, and then dying during the process. Those women were brave, whether the made it or not, brave as all get out!!!!
Had I been a pioneer pregnant woman on the wagon train West I would not have survived and neither would my child! I often think of that and the many complications that can occur and all the knowledge doctors have gained since then. Many. Many babies and children didn't live long lived. Many women died in childbirth. Very sad. Yet these pioneers were strong and brave and opened the country for all we enjoy in it today.
My family was attacked, murdered and sold into slavery at least 5 times, different generations, by Natives. There was a reason people were scared of them. Even the friendly ones, that they traded with and welcomed into their homes, did a surprise attack.
I'm not justifying either side, but it was an issue.
Ur family should of stayed home!!! They invaded peoples homes and are surprised when the original owner fights back?
@@reneedenn5819 Do the right thing then if you are of European descent. Move back to where your ancestors came from or give your home and land to the natives whose ancestors once owned it.
There is a great book entitled, "A Fate Worse Than Death" detailing scores of unprovoked and devilish attacks on emigrants. Nothing justifies the butchery that anyone did - white or Indian. Some Natives and some whites were serial killers. Sickening.
@@reneedenn5819😂😅
@@reneedenn5819Fought back. Yes. And pioneers who are indignant about it are slightly delusional. However, there WAS A war, or wars, however nasty and duplicitous...it WAS a battle for land. Wars are usually over land and dominance and control of resources. Someone wins, Someone looses.
That's war.
I hate war and don't understand a mentality that would WANT to encroach upon people who are already there...but, I have to accept that war has existed and there are rules and purposes behind those land grabs and violent invasions and wholesale slaughter of buffalo etc....Someone wins. Someone looses. I also don't understand reparations.
I think it’s well known that we all have died of dysentery on the Oregon Trail. 🤢🤮😵
not me! I sacrificed my entire party and then drowned! 😂
@@sithlordhibiscus9936 Well done! 😂😂
@@sithlordhibiscus9936 Same, DAMN YOU COLUMBIAN RIVER!
Dysentery got nearly all of us, except for those who accidentally shot themselves.
I was surprised there was no mention of the "Pickled Pioneer", Willie Keil. He was a 19 year-old would-be pioneer who was planning to accompany his family along the route to the West Coast from Missouri. His father, a preacher, was the leader of the party, and had promised Willie that he could lead the party in the first wagon. Sadly, Willie feel ill just days before their planned departure. Even as he lay dying, the boy talked about leading the wagon train, so when he finally passed, his father put his son in a vat of whiskey that was placed in the lead wagon so that he could fulfill his promise to his son that he would be the one to lead them to their new "promised land". Willie stayed in that vat all the way across the trail until they reached the Washington coast. There he was buried. Sadly, his family and their group decided that the climate was too rainy and grey (welcome to Western Washington in the winter!) and moved down to a drier part of Oregon, leaving poor Willie behind in what is now Menlo, Washington. There is a roadside monument to the "Pickled Pioneer" near the "Tombstone Willie Saloon".
cool.
concise documation documentary.
tha
nks for sharing. it has increased my book of knowledge .
I could not imagine walking to California!! 😂🤣
Indians had to walk from TN to the west.
Now I imagine a lot of people are walking back out.
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Thank everyone who is commenting!!! So many interesting stories!!
Willamette is pronounced : Will am it / dam it :)
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You are absolutely right!
I needed the laugh tho, THANK YOU!!
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And damn!
You look *so* familiar!
I can't place you rn, but I'll work on it!
Actually, the native Americans were with the group that left and got stranded in the blizzard. Some in the group proposed that they kill and eat the Indians, but the Indians quickly and angrily ran away and did not get eaten. This is untrue, grunge
I don't remember reading that in the book written by one of the people who survived as a diary.
I'm confused. What?
Donner party, yes, the Natives knew not to trust the wachisu, and left in the middle of the night. The wachisus were talking about killing them and eating them.
The two Miwok native Americans associated with the Donner Party were part of the Forelorn hope. There was discussion of using the bodies of the two men, but in some way, they were notified of this horrific proposition, and they fled. There has been speculation as to how they were found several days later. Some say they were harvesting acorns (as the Miwok tribe(s) were known to include acorns and other small vegetations in their diet) others say they were laying in the snow too weak to move. Regardless of their situation when being found, William Foster shot the two men, beheaded them, and proceeded to use their flesh as fuel. They did not survive.
Caster oil is effective healer - I used it on numb toes and stiff feet - it works
The Comanche did not primarily view immigrants as trading opportunities! 😅
Great documentary... Strange about the Milk Sickness, it totally makes senses that happened though.
There was an occasional flip to a video game. A distraction from the subject of the video. Great history.
Just got done playing the game Oregon trail and this video came up 👍
Could do without the “music”…
Very interesting topic and told very well, but the 50/50 ratio of video to ads was hard to get through. I mean, you gotta get paid and I believe you should, but every minute of play leading to a minute of ads makes it difficult to stay interested
Interesting, im 17 minutes in and had my second ad
Really? I counted 7 ads before I clicked off just around halfway or so
I forget some people have to deal with ads…
CZcams does that not the channel
I’ve watched 30 minutes so far and zero commercials.. I’ll probably jinx myself by making this comment 😬
you refer to a hunting game on a home computer ! In my young days there was NO SUCH thing ! NEVER had a computer in the 40's. but good video..
McDonalds would have made a fortune on the Oregon Trail.
There’s a book by a couple of guys who recreated the trip in a period wagon as close to the same conditions as the pioneers, very interesting story. Not fun.
Keep it going
That's one of the reasons I didn't name my characters after family members. I have the newest edition of the game for Windows 10..
Do some Arizona history ?
Most pioneers did not walk. Read the diaries. It would have been physically impossible considering the number of miles they traveled each day. There are an overwhelming number of accounts of riding in the wagons and riding horses - yes, horses! The myth that many are perpetuating is that women walked most of the trail. They did not. They walked SOME of the trail but they rode most of the way tending children and infants, tending the sick or being sick,, sewing, reading, writing and even cooking. Someone should compile diary and journal accounts of approximate times recorded that they actually walked and time that they rode. I have read hundreds of diaries, own some, and surprised by the the vast amount of data that tells a different story than the one that has become politically correct.
We now know, in regard to treating the boy with the crushed leg, leaving the maggots to eat away the decaying flesh would probably have been his best hope for survival. So whomever splinted and bound the leg in such a way as to let it become maggot infested, maybe was such a quack doctor after all.
I was really looking forward to this video! However the music bed is up way too high! I didnt .ake it 2 minutes in 😢
Hmm
I'm over 12 minutes in and hadn't even noticed.
my uncle was one of the guys that performed gunfights when i was a kid i got to go almost everyday for about two weeks that place was so fun
the origan trail game I remember that it was on a floppy disk the black plastic that was more like paper
I am from Gering Ne so I know some Landmarks along the Oregon Trail
Scottsbluff here lol
Maggots are not an uncommon way of minimising the development of gangrene in an open wound..
Many people in Appalachian areas still use maggots to eat infection.
There are things folks should learn. We live on timelines like an onion. Layered time lines. So an example would be, you are on your phone watching this video meanwhile there is actually folks experiencing this in their 1800s timeline. As our soul traverses, things we see in our timeline that we are interested in, we when in our next life maybe cast. This is how through history...we had seers and great inventors. Our soul has been proven to never die, only our body. You may have a very difficult time in life now...but you are learning something. Then your next life, you help many others...and it could be in your next life, you are a part of these wagon trains with a piece of knowledge. Science today is discovering time lines at CERN, and they have documented truth of time travellars. Its along with this big step of AI.
The best book ever about the journey is "WOMEN'S DIARY OF THE WESTERN JOURNEY". If the men said "we're going..." women were expected to go....pregnant or no. I nearly burned up my motor going up a hill so I could see the wwagon ruts. Amazing !
I dont believe guns were a big problem like you say!
Younger people would probly believe it!
Many of the LDS church members kept diaries of crossing . One Scandinavian member lost a leg on the trail stated to other members grumbling about the handcart companies stated he would gladly pay the same price. One of my fondest memories of youth was sitting in sacrament meeting with my siblings and parents and singing come come yea saints,written about the hardships of the trail.
Gotta be even harder hauling them wifes around
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Pretty sure those wagons didn't have tires on them! Duh
Well, no, but defo had wheels. Lol
@@Thedarkestduchess The metal rims were actually referred to as tires.
Wagons do not have "tires". They do have wagon wheels, made of wood and metal, not inflatable rubber.
The steel bands were called tyres, long before later rubber ones which copied the name, Google it
Those are wheels,Tires were 50 years later.
Iron tires on wood centers, really. Steam locomotives have tires that are pressed onto cast iron/steel centers - same thing.
Tires? I think not! Wheels, yes !
Wagons in those days did not have tires, they had wooden wheels with an iron rim around the spoked wheel.
Whats that recent oregon trail movie they keep showing on here?
That's what I'm wondering too. Look good cinematically. Possibly the movie *'Meek's Cutoff'* but not sure
Right because as a person who is strangely obsessed with The Donner Party, The Oregon Trail and Manifest Destiny, I've often searched for movies about these situations and times, with little to no luck.
"The Gal Who Got Rattled" - a chapter of the movie "The Ballad of Buster Scruggs"
I had measles in the early 70s, great fun.
Ne. I had German measles then I got old fashioned measles. I've never been so sick and I had to stay in a dark room.
"They didn't use Conestoga wagons". Shows footage of them using Conestoga wagons...
They weighed 1400 pounds and hauled 2500 pounds.
Cool.
0:13 | what's the name of this movie with this clip in it?
The movie is named 'The Ballad of Buster Scruggs' (2018) a Coen Bros film, it's an anthology of six short stories. It's pretty good, though, not for everyone.
The game Oregon Trail hadn't aged well? What does that even mean?
This video has some accuracies but alot of inaccuracies as well. Travelling to Oregon or California around rhis rome was treacherous as abything oitside of Independence or Fort Laramie was unscathed terrain. Many individuals did die from diseases such as Dysentery, Cholera, Consumption (otherwise known as TB) and the Flu. There were VERY FEW Native American tribes that caused havoc for these pioneers, but there were some. The Paiute Tribe did successfully poison several herds of cattle with the Donner party. Other tribes often tried to barter or trade on the trail, or straigh up steal. This isn't to say there wasn't any fear of Navive Americans on the trail, but there were bigger concerns. The concept of hygeine, guns accidentally misfiring, and the amount of children dying on the trail just to name a few. Timing was everything for these individuals, and it was ill fated for some (like the Donner Party). The wagons often weighed significantly more than what their oxen could pull, so there was a great deal of walking, but only towards the end of the journey, when the parties probably emptied out much of their wagons to help ease the strain on their oxen. Individuals also rode on horseback as much as they could.
This brings back so many memories. I used to take care of my great grandfather when he was a baby.
What?!?!?
@@nancyekstrom8409 u obviously are super dumb
What shows did you use for source video?
Or did you do all of these recreations?
Imagine now, in 2024, risking your life to get to Portland, Oregon?
My great grandmothe rode to wyoming with the wagons my momwas boren on theway there i knowquitea babout this subject from first hand account !😂
Parts of Oregon (north of the Colombia River) were British territory until the late 1840s when a treaty was signed with the US, following which Oregon became a part of the United States.
What movie is it that they keep showing clips from here?
In 1994, I really pissed off a reenactor at Fort Sumter in Sacramento when I suggested they would make a lot of money from selling "Donner Party After Dinner Mints".
6:45 keep in mind that most of these tribes were essentially committing genocide on each other raiding villages, killing women, old people. kids and babies.
Road trip to see the ruts and rock writing are 10 yr old daughter would of rather gone to Disney lol
Fred MCmurry can't sit a horse, he rides like a sack of loose salt.
Oh, Interesting, I didn’t know the Donner party came through Weber canyon (pronounced Weeber) I live close to it.
Cast iron stoves?. Omg
“…what do get cigarette buts, chewing gum wrappers…”
You could start you own store. Just take a empty cart and grab stuff thrown on the ride. Nice furniture things like that and take back where you came from and sell it. Woohoo it would be mostly profit if it was enough nice things.
My Mom has an oxyn🎉 I was a caregiver for a lady she said the Indians would come over to her house trying to get coffee 😅
Right, Native Americans weren’t a threat and fear of them was hype, until it wasn’t..
Wagon should have been designed with 8 wheels and twice the size with 16- 24 ox.
Can you offer these without the background music?
I never heard that Jim Bridger was the reason that the Donner party took that route. And I don't know that I believe it now.
There has been speculation that Jim Bridger concealed some very important letters addressed to the Reed party warning them not to take the cut off. However there was no evidence of these letters ever being found. Additionally, Jim Bridger benefited significantly by telling pioneers to take the Cutoff, as his "fort" would be the last point of contact before they reached Johnston's Ranch or Sutter's fort. This meant he would gain popularity, increased finances, etc. It was all for gain and greed back then.
Ur looking exceptionally fit....have u been working out?
that game is from 1971． best game ever❤
I've been using the same condom for 100 years.
Mister, Yuk!
How to recycle a condom turn it inside out and shake the f
Shake the f out of it
"Arduous" used twice in the first 80 seconds... Nice.
@18:21 I am Brigham Young all the women are mine now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😂
Also.there was the infamous slaughter by Mormons dressed as Indians who stole the little children of an entire wagon train.
@@shanejohnson6400. 😂😅😂
Facts but just not one if your asking one of their brainwashed cult loving members.. A delusional cult follower know as a LDS member or Mormon wont ever tell the truth about their history... My goodness their own "church" had change names how many times?? LMAO its what it is, a cult that fakes as a church and has the most delusional brainwashed followers...set largely in abuse, lies, and cover ups. Never trust a cult leader, follower or anyone who thinks abuse is to be quiet or a molester is a good man to a judge just not their victim.. Utah state google the articles...
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Oh hell ain't no different than the trail of tears these pioneers wasn't being run off their land like the Indians did pioneers 😅