Train Simulator 2017 - CPRR 4-4-0 Jupiter
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Today we test the (CPRR 4-4-0 Jupiter) on TS2017 is it good???
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JUPITER: *IM ABOUT TO END THIS WHOLE MAN CAREER*
What I know of the American 4-4-0 models; used for small passenger routes with light weight coaches to keep it at a semi-fast speed. The 4-4-0 models are my favorites since they're classics.
4-4-0 locomotives were the standard design in the USA in the 19th century. The coaches were lightweights in comparison with more modern trains, but the passenger routes were all over the network. For example, the First Transcontinental Railroad between Omaha (Nebraska) and San Francisco (CA) - not really a "small" route.
Person: why does he love the wheel so much?
Lazer jet: You wouldn’t get it
Me: STAR!
Hey oliver, when you mentioned the protector piece you mentioned, that's actually a spark arrestor, it's used on older model locomotives to prevent sparks from flying out of funnels and starting fires
“This trains top speed is 10 miles per hour” bruh this went 70 in the 1880s
Well, Jupiter could only go 25 to 40 MPH. While pulling trains, that is. Without a train, it could hit speeds of 60 MPH.
Granted it's already been said, but I wouldn't really say the engine is "difficult" to operate as it is a challenging engine to drive. The guy who made it and the cars that go along with it wanted to simulate how to operate an early American steam train. There is a process to starting and stopping the train, and there is a video about how to do that on here somewhere. And before starting and while running, whistle signals are used to control the brakes. These early trains were all braked manually and did not have automatic air or vacuum brakes until the following decade. (1880s)
Although it can be difficult to run, the creator did an extremely through job of simulation early American railroad practice! And just to comment on what you said on lack of pulling power keep this in mind. You were able to get the engine to run at 16 mph while DRAGGING a whole train behind it! An identical locomotive, one of Jupiter's sisters ("Leviathan") was able to haul a full sized, 120+ ton diesel locomotive unaided and whit out slipping. Despite their early designs, locomotives like the Jupiter and it's sisters are surprisingly powerful.
Thanks for the video though, it was extremely fun to see the TS Jupiter in action!!
Ok
Well only the uprr that's what the Union Pacific was called before the 1910s they were the ones that first used air or vacuum brakes
Thank you so much for showing me this video 3 years ago. Since then I've gotten an HO scale model of this locomotive and it's been dear to my heart since.
Early steam engines didn’t have brakes so they had hand brakes on the tender and cars that the conductor would run across and turn the brake wheels so the train would stop. They would also use the reverser as a break
yep
I love old time steam engines like this. AWESOME
Same
And it's American!
I'm half American so same
I’m half British and Scottish
The manual is essential reading :)
You were running the train with the brakes set on the flat cars and caboose the entire time. To release the brakes, blow two long blasts on the whistle, close together. To set them again, blow one short toot. It's all there in the manual.
Oliver this is the guy Who made Jupiter on train simulator
calendo smoke box this is the most detailed locomotive I have ever seen on train simulator
Thanks! I'm really happy with the reception it's getting. I've noticed that people who don't normally run American locos are getting this one, and that's great to see! It gives me encouragement to continue working hard on the next one, UP 119.
For me though, the most detailed one is still my UP FEF-3 ;) (there's a truly massive amount of parts and animations in the FEF-3).
how do i get to the manual?
your train brakes were on the whole time
U shoud've had to dab
And wear shades XD
@@samgue5962 Who dabs and say XD in 2021?
@@PeterIsTheSenate who acts like you're only allowed to say certain things in certain years
oh wait that's you
The reason for the gate on the funnel is for the forests of where these locomotives would drive so the trees don’t catch on fire it’s my favorite engine type
@21:00 You should have seen me running a beta release of a TANE model of this engine! It went well over 120 mph!
many of these steam locomotives that survived in 1909 were sined to gravel trains and secondhanded railroad
Beautiful detail, this is the best version of Jupiter I have ever seen on Train Simulator! Please race the engine against Union Pacific 119 and/or Leviathan!
Old American trains like this had no brakes on the locomotive. Only cars, coaches, and tenders had breaks. The locos were slowed with the reverser.
Tipp: Use the Reveser to Brake
Retract the Handbrakes fromm your Trucks
Thirdly use the Sandbox to move!!!!
He's finally driving the Jupiter🚂
back in the day the 1800s steam engines didn't have automatic brakes a brakeman had to walk along the top of the cars and turn the brake wheels so the engine and train cars could stop
yes
The best locomotive ever!
This happens to be my favorite type!
1:21 famous last words LOL
the top of the smokestack / funnel was designed that way because steam engines were not great at keeping sparks in their stacks at this point and there was a risk of catching wooden cars on fire
This was the lock in the US transcontinental meet so it's a pretty important loco
119 aka rogers and 60 aka jupiter were both at the golden spike ceremony in 1869, faced eachother head just like when me and 844 faced head on on may 9
I would love to drive this thing while listening to the Red Dead Redemption soundtrack.
This locomotive is a classic
Jupiter
The train that you throw into reverse to brake
No
Was at the promontory odyssey with an engine simply known as 119, came from Santa Fe after being shipped around South America. Sadly scrapped in 1909
Thankfully, we Americans Have Jupiter Still in operation
It's actually a replica
There was no particular brake the engineer would control, when coming to a stop, he'd throw the engine in reverse, to stop it, and the fireman or brakeman would turn the handbrake in the tender.
The brake van is called a caboose in American terms, and you need 2 long blasts to get to like 30 MPH
Cprr was a company that built the transcontinental rail road in 1869 from California USA to prmitory point USA
They need to add the Union Pacific's 119 to the game.
It's on its way :)
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It isn’t the acceleration that caused the damage. It was hydraulic lock in the cylinders. You always open the cylinder drain cocks before starting a steam locomotive and leave them open until any water (condensed steam) has been blown out. That’s why you see great billows of steam from around the cylinders at first. I spent 8 years of summer weekends running a locomotive just like this but in miniature. Look up Crown Metal Products of Wyano , PA. They built 15”, 24”, and 36” gauge 4-4-0 American class steam locos for amusement parks from 1959 to the late 1970’s. I ran one of their 15” trains. It was coal-fired and had a mechanical brake on the driver wheels only. A few points: the blower is to keep a draft on the fire while sitting still. You don’t need it while running. Always start with the reverser at 100% forward (like low gear), then as you build speed, bring the reverser back gradually to a lower setting (like high gear).
You're quite right about the hydraulic lock. The pistons try to compress the condensed steam, i.e. water, and since water can't be compressed, if there's nowhere for it to go - if the cylinder drain cocks aren't open - it rams the cylinder caps and forces them off, as well as the packing from the rear piston gland. However, the model also simulates the break down of the piston valves that happens at high speed (> 50mph) when the crude lubrication (from a pot on top of each steam chest) can't keep up with the speed of the slide valves. You also need the blower on when running with not much cylinder exhaust pressure to draw the fire through the tubes to the smokebox (such as when you close the throttle and/or run with a very short cut-off). Also when you're about to enter a tunnel while the firebox door is open (otherwise the sudden increase in pressure at the opening of the stack can force air back through the tubes and blow the fire into the cab). In fact, I know of one steam locomotive engineer (or "driver", as he's British) who trains and licences crews who says that the blower should always be open (at least partially) to keep the fire in the firebox, and he'd fail anyone who closes it.
Fun fact! This locomotive was the locomotive used by the southern pacific to complete their half of the transcontinental railroad and it met in the middle with Union Pacific 199 as the golden spike was driven connecting the two railroads and two halves of the country and at the time that was a very impressive feat and naturally it made history and while yes the railroad no longer exists along with the locomotives their recreations do exist and they do re-enactments of the driving of the golden spike every year
You do realize that the brakes on the flat cars were on the entire time you were driving this thing right. You can take off car breaks by clicking on the Cupler icon and clicking on the first car to the last car this is important because if you click them out of order they will automatically come back on again. Also another thing to note is if you use the short whistle the car brakes will automatically come on after a short period of time.
PizzaSeeker ! He never read the manual thing so he doesn’t know
These old locomotives like Jupiter can clock up to 50 mph the trains built after Jupiter like the 4-6-0 could clock up to 70 mph America had a way to build locomotives to have a very fast top speed and very powerful strength and I love the old loving locomotives of the mountain type locomotives strong power of strength and speed
Dude the more steam pressure you have the more power. You let the steam get down too much is why it was going so slow.
the hydraulics getting damaged is very realistic it happens all the time if you put on the throttle all the way when your at a dead stop plus you had the brake on trust me ive driven a type of locomotive like that
Hello LaZeR JET,
My Name is Jordan Shingler, I really enjoy watching your Train Simulator Speed Tests and Races.
I really enjoyed watching you driving the Central Pacific Jupiter No.60 even at speed, but I don't a prove the crash, but it was an accident after all.
I adore these American 4-4-0 Steam Locomotives including Jupiter.
I have a request, how about having Jupiter racing alongside 4449 Daylight and the Berkshire 2-8-4 Steam Locomotive without any rolling stock?
That would be so cool to see an Small American 4-4-0 race alongside the Big American Locomotives!
Again great video! 😉
Much better would be Jupiter alongside my UP 844 ;)
and even a part of the game. where you can visit the railroad scrapyard
traction tires are real. the are like big steel hoops that are heated up to a hot tempature and. useing a big mallet to pound the traction tires on the wheel centers no bolts or screws or rivits
8:07 those are called cylinder cocks. The let water out of the cylinder because if water stays in the cylinder it can damage it.
I believe the "blower" is blowing down the boiler to clean out debris in the boiler
the blower sends a jet of steam up the stack to pull air through the firebox, keeping the fire alive while the throttle isn't open
also the cylinder breakage was because to put it simple because it was pumping so hard during wheel slip
Incorrect, he did not open the cylinder cocks. Thus all the condensed water left in the cylinder broke it.
That's true
The point is he is not very good at driving steam trains well old American ones
If it has it open the cylinder cocks
When you open the cylinder cocks it allows water that collects in the cylinder to drain out because water cannot be compressed causing it to fail
Yeah. I know. Right? It's a 19th century steam locomotive. It's supposed to be unusual from 20th century steam locomotives and inferior to 20th century steam locomotives. Thus, it's a 4-4-0 too. That's just how American steam locomotive specifications were in the 19th century.
That's the Central Pacific 4-4-0 Jupiter. It's one of the engines that was Present at the Site Of The Golden Spike.
When I played ts 2017 I damaged the steam engine every time I tried to move it. And one time I put the throttle all the way up and it
Jumped the freaking tracks!
you use the cylinder cocks to release condensation from the train
I really don’t know why people don’t use the cylinder cocks
Those grits in the smoke stack are there to prevent embers from causing fires.
When you move the reverser/Johnson bar, those are not pipes moving those are the valve gear. Which is Stevenson valve gear
If anybody is still having trouble with how to drive the Jupiter, I just changed the controls from “Expert” to “Easy” or “Simple” (whichever one it says), that way with just the moving of 1 lever, it just takes off like normal. Plain and simple.
smokestack sparkaressters keep sparks from setting brushfires along the route of the railroad
I think you didn't give two long whistles at the beginning which disengages the handbrakes on ALL of the cars.
Most Baldwin 440s didn't have brakes Jupiter was one that didn't they used reverse
"how do i get this engine up to speed?"
Its one of americas first high end locomotives and your going up a hill...
The Drifting 6 you’re*
@@deaderthandead1182 are you really doing this just for the purpose to act smart.... when literally this post was added advice....? This is just a sad moment for you not going to lie mate.
no, i’m correcting you, if you take it as a rude comment i apologize.
people never tend to backlash like that..
@@deaderthandead1182 ah, as do i. Usually people do that as emphasizing a rude behavior and are trying to look good themselves. So i usually bash people who attempt that as 95% of the time that the case. sorry about that.
1 day before my birthday this was uploaded
HEY THATS MY PROFILE PICTURE ENGINE :)
Cody Farmer I am assuming you changed your profile picture because your profile picture know is a CSX diesel locomotive
this was from the lone ranger
In fact I think it is in desplay in California but I’m not sure,at least in know there’s that kind in the Sacramento railway museum California😁🛤🛤🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃
The Great Railway Show? As in, the Thomas special?
wish you could get old railroad folksongs in here to match if you. want to test crash. part of this game. and even a special bonus by building your own steam locomotive feature for2018 I'll be looking for it. if the time comes
In this locomotive's defence, it was built in 1868.
The Jupiter didn't have brakes until the 1880s
The Jupiter has already got his brakes in 1868. George Westinghouse invented the air brakes in 1868.
@@williamou417 hes not talking about air breaks, those are for the cars, not the engine.
One word: *MANUAL*
Your in love with the loco, loco
Can do drive the Amtrak P30CH unit 707 for the next video please???
Laser jet your videos and intros are so coll
That is like a american steam train from the past
that's... exactly what it is...
The train is a wood (and oil maybe) burning train like bash dash and Ferdinand from Thomas and friends
These trains used the reverser for a brake
The Funnel is none a Spark Arrestor to stop the woods from burning from the sparks of the funnel etc, also these locomotives date back to the American Civil War, also are you aware of the Great Locomotive Chase at tall just out of interest as that was a true story that took place on the Western And Atlantic Railroad, with an engine Named the General being hijacked ? :)
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that reached 50 mph
sad news. in 1909 this steam locomotive not only renumberd but scrapped in the united states at that time no one thought of keeping this type in service. but they built replicas of no 60 & 119 of the union pacific and central pacific. in 1969 to celebrate. the 100 year anniversary. of the transcontintal railroad
the lovely little jub jub
They could've worked more on painting the different liveries for each engine. Jupiter is fine, but in this DLC, I found that Leviathan, Storm, and Whirlwind are all in the same colors as Jupiter, but with just their own respective names and numbers. We all know that Leviathan's tender was all red with her cab tan and her body black from boiler to smokestack, and her cowcatcher and head-lamp were red along with her wheels. I don't know how different the liveries for Storm and Whirlwind are because it's hard to find photos and images of their appearances. That's what they could've done before releasing this DLC.
That's completely incorrect. The way the actual replica of Leviathan (David Kloke's replica) is liveried is not historically accurate. He left the cab in varnished, but unpainted wood, because he liked the way it looked, not because it was accurate. All four locomotives were built at the same time, by the same builder, in the same place, and it is therefore logical to assume that they would all have carried the same livery. The replica of Jupiter was originally painted red, like Kloke's Leviathan, but later on, when more information was uncovered through historical research, she was repainted in her current predominantly blue livery, so as to be more accurate. That is how I have depicted the four locomotives.
So what you're saying is that in actuality, all 4 of the locomotives really did have the same livery?
Okay. That makes sense to me.
Yep, that's my understanding, that all four would have been turned out in the same way, just with individual names and numbers.
I have to say it’s bugging me that you called the caboose a brake ban, on an American Locomotive 😂 but I don’t blame you, on the wrong side of the pond I guess
Back to the future vibes
The so called cool smoke things are cinder water drane outlet open them to get rid of condensation
Hi lazer its me TDMFoxy i got this engine and had trouble with it but i found a nother video that teaches you how to drive it and get it to top speed. I also already subed and liked this video. bai
The name of that train is cprr 4-4-0 no .60jupiter
The reason why it doesnt have brakes is because at first american steam locomotives didnt have them. So if they had to stop they would put the locomotive into reverse.
This train was made in the 1800s so its super hard lol 😂
You had the brakes set on all of the cars, and you forgot to open the cylinder cocks. (Not joking about the name) Also you need to activate the blower when you aren't moving.
They are called *cylinder cox* ;-;
@@CuboydMC wrong, cylinder cocks.
The no air us acutually realistic because there were no brake piping
XD LaZeR Jet didn't know the name of the loco even though IT SAID ''JUPITER'' ON THE SIDE OF THE TENDER!!
Trains at this point in history did not have air brakes yet. To stop they pretty much just cut power and coasted to a stop. If you absolutely had to stop right now, you just put it in reverse and prey. As for parking, each car had its own individual hand break.
Wait I think that train is the one from the introduction of toy story 3
No, that train from You Story 3 was a different one
I could be wrong but it could be the C.K Holiday.
@@joeythecat7482 ah okay
Jupiter was a passenger engine in real life.
18:18 you must be stupid to think that the mesh is to stop people from falling down the chimney😂😂😂 its used to stop ash from leaving the chimney
Lmao
At this bit of time he was just getting to know how drive and learning about these trains so ye
Fact this is one of the trains used in the great locomotive chace
It wasn't even used during the Great Locomotive Chase, it was built in 1868 in New York by the Central Pacific RailRoad Company of California (CPRR,) and was eventually renamed Southern Pacific RailRoad.
you play trainz and you gotta find the missing dependencies if you download some trains from other trainz website
the dingaling bit :D
i have confirmed 420 facepalms during a this video.
I know what the problem is, you kept the power on, and therefore the engine couldn't keep up with the pressure. (PSI)
And if a steam engine doesn't have enough pressure, then it can't go fast.
The PSI level on the hood is right beside the water % and the other goodies like light and all that.
Press c when pulling off to get the condensate out the cylinders haha
6:49< skip here to see train start moving
once there were no brakes you just had to throttle the other way
yeahhhh no I wouldn't recommend that, you'd severely damage the engine... before air brakes they used handbrakes
Your intro is catchy.
The american break van is called a caboose
Perhaps the wagon breaks require you to walk from wagon to wagon and release break
You release the train cars' brakes by blowing the whistle (two long blasts) - it tells the brakemen to release the handbrakes. If you watch in the coupling view of the F3/F4 HUD, you can see the brakes coming off one by one.
To set the brakes, it's one short "toot" on the whistle.