2019 Honda Odyssey Transmission Service 9-Speed
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- čas přidán 1. 04. 2023
- On this video im replacing the transmission fluid on this 2019 Odyssey with the 9-Speed transmission
NOTE: at 6:24 when I said you hit both of them together I meant you hold the brake pedal and press the VSA button
Also when checking the fluid level after the transmission warm up and going through the gears in S mode the engine must be on when pulling the plug
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This is the 1st video I have seen that goes through the entire trans. service. Thanks
Thank you for watching!
Retired Honda Training instructor here, nicely done!
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback
This is great - thank you! I was told by a dealership that this was not a spill-fill process, that it required pumps, special machinery, etc... maybe it was a way of explaining the VSA mode, but now i can save myself the $580 they quoted!
Yes it’s a pretty easy process for the 9-speeds 10-speeds are a bit more harder
This is awesome man! Please keep it up. Much appreciation! Looks like they’re reining in on the service manuals. I just popped the hood on my wife’s 22’ Honda Pilot and the first thing I noticed was a huge 2-3 sqft black plastic panel with one bright blue cap to the washer fluid reservoir showcased as if they are telling us, “this is the only thing you’re allowed to touch in here”…😂
Thank you I appreciate it. And yea it’s definitely getting harder for the DIY ppl to work on modern cars
Amazing video my dear. Very nice clear and concise job. The VSA mode is the part that wasn’t clear enough for me when i tried to change transmission fluid. But this time I will replace by following the outstanding fully detailed instructions provided. Many thanks. Will keep posted when done. Thank You So Much😊😊😊
Glad it helped! The VSA is confusing even for me when I first did it lol
Great video. Got all the important points covered. Thank-you!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice job... clear and concise.
Thanks!
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great vid thanks. I used to just do my 19 Odyssey. Loved the drain plug torque to spec then no mention of what torque was. Lol. I looked around and found it to be 26 foot pounds. Figured that would work not being too crazy. Sometimes posted torques are way out of line.
Perfect. Thank you.
You're welcome!
Your video needs to be higher on the recommendations. You actually show how to do the post-fill operations correctly.
Thank you! I appreciate it. I like to give an insight on what actually needs to get done so if you do bring it to a dealership you can see why the service is priced accordingly. And further more if you a DIYer you can do it yourself and know your doing everything you need to do to do it rite.
Remember the old days of dip sticks and even the occasional sight window? It’s almost like they don’t want the DIY people to service their own vehicles.
Thanks for the video, need to service the wife’s 2019 EXL.
Yes I definitely miss those days unfortunately cars are getting way more complicated and the typically DIYer can’t work on em anymore
Well of course not, when they can charge over $300 to do it at a Honda dealership
Great video and very thorough. How do you feel about using oil from MotoSel ATF Z1 for Honda 3.0 and 3.1?
thank you and idk to much about that fluid to say for sure but i would recommend against that just because of the transmission. we had one not to long ago come in with ATF fluid instead of the 3.0 and the transmission needed to be replaced. car wouldnt move so with that i would stay on the side of caution
Great video! What do you think about measuring how much fluid was drained and then use that exact amount of new fluid to pour in instead of the check-plug method?
Thank you! You can definitely do that I don’t think that would be a problem Honda says at change it’s 3.5qts so if your around that amount you should be fine
Just drain fill when cold
How about the VCM disable products can you do a review or let us how to disable it thank's! So much
i dont know to much about the new vehicles and the VCM disabling products as the newer direct injection J series V6 do not have oil consumption issues as the older ones did. As for the older J series V6 with the VCM issues ive been trying to get one for my cousins V6 accord but all i can find are the generic ones on amazon/ebay that have different resistors. I have used that before on a customers vehicle and it seems to work good but the VCM still comes on every once in a while, the really good ones has its own little computer to control the resistance as to what the coolant temp sensor sees but i believe those are discontinued. Hope this helps!
If I were to measure exactly what came out and refilled the same amount, would the vsa mode sequence or make sure temp is within range you performed be necessary?
I would say no since you putting in what you took out. As long as you have no shifting issues now I would say you should be fine
Great! Would this be the same procedure for 2020 Ridge line AWD ?
Yep should be the same!
When on VSA maintenance mode and going through the gears do you leave your foot on the brakes/ebrakes on? Is it the same if not going on VSA maintenance mode and just put it in drive/S mode and cycle through gears?
Yes foot is on the break when shifting through the gears and to be honest I’m not sure I’ve never tired it I would imagine there’s a reason why they have you go into maintenance mode
Hello sir. Thank you for the video. I know you will only recommend OEM fluid for replacement, but what is your honest opinion about Valvoline Multi Vehicle full synthetic ATF?
I think that fluid would be ok in regular transmission as an alternative but I recommend sticking with the OEM fluid for theses transmissions if anything I know some people have used amsoil and noticed a smoother shift between gears you can always look into that maybe as an alternative
I used Redline and only got 385 k on my 4 cylinder accord.
Although they say it's a 'lifetime' filter, What about taking off the oil cooler then popping out and changing the internal transmission filter at the service also?
These transmissions are not really serviceable at the dealer level a lot of times they if something fails they say to replace the whole transmission
My kingdom for a dipstick.
I drained and refilled mine with 3.5 qts and it’s great except for one gear change, where it very infrequently flares before gently falling into gear. I’m guessing it’s under-filled but I have no way of knowing so I guess I have to take it somewhere as I don’t have a scan tool that can read Honda transmission temps.
Yes I wish there was one it would make things so much easier maybe just going for a test drive for a bit and getting it pretty warmed up should be good enough 🤷♂️
@@thehondatechnician I swallowed my pride and paid a shop to do it. I think it was probably a touch over filled as the shifting in the lower gears smoothed out a bit. Not a massive difference but enough.
@@michaelw6277 nothing wrong with that at least you gave it a try!
Can I check my level after driving it a couple of days after fluid change or just during the initial fluid change.
I’m sure it would be ok as long as you don’t feel any shifting problems after draining and refilling it and your putting the recommended amount back in. Just make sure to follow the level check procedure
2:32 or just measure how much comes out into a measured paint bucket and add the same amount back. It says 3.5 quarts but I’m glad I got the bucket because 4 full quarts came out and that’s what we put back.
I’ve had this happen as well there’s variables there most times it is 3.5 qts
Is this the same for a 2019 Honda Passport? (push button shifter). I've seen some videos where people where using the ATF-DW1 instead of the ATF Type 3.1
Atf DW-1 is for 6AT transmission not recommended for the push button shifter (9-Speed/10-Speed) it can cause transmission damage
I have a 2018 Honda Odyssey Ex, 9-speed transmission with 35k miles. When do I need to get the service done, plus since we won't have a dipstick how do we check the oil level if it's low and I need to refill?
You can follow the maintenance sub minder (#3) on your maintenance life when it comes up or you can do it every 30-60k I know some places do them at 30 some at 60. As for checking it there’s no dipstick so you would need to do the level check procedure which I outlined in the video. Rule of thumb is if no one has touched it and there’s no leaks the fluid level is most likely ok
I listened to your video a few times to get the transcript of putting the vehicle in VSA maintenance mode. Did I get it right?
VSA maintenance mode to Check Transmission Fluid Level
(Car on jack stands, wheels off the ground)
1. Key on,
2. Within 30 sec, release the parking brake. Press down the brake pedal and hold the VSA button until VSA light come on in dash. Release VSA button. Press and hold the VSA button again until it turns off.
3. Release brake pedal. Apply parking brake (parking brake light comes on)
4. Press and hold VSA until light comes on.
5. Press and hold VSA until light turns off.
6. Press and hold brake pedal and VSA button at the same time until VSA light flashes
7. Start engine and shift to “S” mode by hitting the Drive button twice.
8. Use paddle shifters to shift to 2-4 gears waiting 10 seconds between gears.
9. Put in park and run engine to 2000 RPM for a few seconds to ensure torque converter fills with fluid
10. Idle vehicle until transmission temp gets to 100°F-113°F. (Check temp with a scan tool.)
11. With the engine running, open fluid level plug on the side of the transmission and let an extra fluid trickle out.
Yes once the lights flash your in maintenance mode
I got it in VSA mode but it didn't let me shift higher than 2nd gear. Any thoughts on why?@@thehondatechnician
Is check plug also available on 2018 9-speed models ?
yea all 9- speed models through out Honda will be basically the same procedure.
This is ridiculous, I can understand a new crush washer or gasket, but how can honda seriously recommend putting completely new drain plugs for a transmission fluid service? Sounds like BS to charge for more parts.
It’s a recommendation doesn’t need to be done just like crush washers on drain plugs it should get replaced every oil change to prevent leaks,stressing the treads on the pan but I’ve seen ppl not change em and not have a problem.
Those replacement plugs are $25 each
M18x1.5 thread pitch
It keeps deleting my reply. Look for BMW 335i trans drain plug by febi or BMW. Ecs tuning has them anywhere from 3.99-13 each
This oil is always out of stock and expensive, do I have to use this oil? I am 2018 odyssey 9 speed
Yes these transmissions take a very specific transmission fluid. I’m sure you might be able to find who actually makes the fluid and buy that. For example, last year we had a shortage of dual pump rear differential fluid that mostly every AWD Honda now a days takes my parts department couldn’t get it from honda there was just not available and at one point we were actually getting Acura dual pump fluid which is basically the same thing but the actual company that makes the fluid for Honda is eneos it’s literally the same fluid, but the bottle has a honda branded sticker on it instead of saying eneos so if you can’t find the fluid I would recommend doing so research and finding who makes the fluid
One more question. Does the vehicle start engine or stop when checking the oil level? Thanks bro
im not sure what you mean
@@thehondatechnician Is the engine running when checking the oil level?or not running?
Good morning are you in Boston? Please let me know.
No im not in Boston but I am from Massachusetts
You put 3 ½ quarts in and it looked like almost ½ quart came out of the level plug, or did you put in 4 quarts to start?
you are supposed to check the level with the engine running. it looks like you had the engine off.
I put 3.5 qts in. This actually was rare that it happened because usually when I put the 3.5 qts in and pull the check plug very little comes out I was surprised when that much came out! Behind the scenes I did do the level check procedure again and it was correct so I can’t explain why that much came out but it was correct amount. Hope that helps 👍🏼
@@kumbaproperties2432 no it was running I’m using a cheaper off Brand gopro off of Amazon for the time being im doing this more of a hobby so I don’t have fancy equipment lol the audio isn’t the best and unfortunately at my shop the exhaust fans are so loud that I have to edit the audio in the videos or else you would hear a lot of background noise and unfortunately that affects the overall audio of the finished video I should of mentioned that in the video when I was explain the procedure in the vehicle that the engine has to be on when checking
@@thehondatechnician it does! I’m about to install the ATF cooler on my 2020 Pilot and would expect to add about another ½ quart for the additional capacity so I just wanted to check. Thanks!
@@thehondatechnician Sorry to say but the service manual of the ZF 9HP says checking the level at the end should be done "cold". That's why there's some ATF coming out when the transmission is warm. Some ZF HP9 with 4x4 transfer case are blocked at the top plug. So you have to fill it up with an oil pump through the level plug. After filling and the 9-shifting procedure, you let everything cool down and check the level. It's not very logical and convenient to do this with a warm/hot transmission....
When checking the fluid level plug, is the engine running or off?
Running
@@thehondatechnician thanks for clarifying I could not hear the engine running when you took the check plug out
@@MikeTrullAmsoildealerme too 😂
What's the torque spec? Kind of a big detail especially if you got it straight from the horses mouth.
Someone previously asked and I answered on the comments 26ft.lbs for both
@@thehondatechnician oh nice. Thanks for your work and video! All I need is the crush washer and I'm doing this on my 2019. With 45K miles I'm past due
@@alex042687 so the 9 speeds don’t have crush washers. You get a new bolt. What kind of vehicle do you have?
@@thehondatechnician really? No crush washer? I guess I just assumed. I have a 2019 Odyssey EX ( cloth seat/no sunroof) so its 9-speed. I have never seen a drain bolt without a crush washer
@@alex042687 yea in the video I show the bolts on the 9 speeds that Honda recommends replacing. if it’s a 10 speed then it will have a drain plug with the crush washer if that is the case then the drain plug is 36ft.lbs and there’s a different procedure to fill and check the level
How do you get it out of the VCA Mode?
Just cycling the key
Can you do one for 2020 RDX ?
If i get one in the shop i will be more than happy to!
Is there a filter like the 6 speed?
not that i know if, if there is it maybe internal
What is the torque spec on the bolts?
26ft.lbs for both the drain and check/fill plug
@@thehondatechnician thank you so much!!!
Anytime!
What tool do you use to check the fluid temperature?
you need to use a scan tool to check fluid temperature.
@@thehondatechnician I’ve been doing some research on scan tools with live data and the only one I can find that has transmission fluid temperature is $350 from Harbor Freight, is that the price range of yours? Which one are you using?
So i have a few scan tools, the cheapest being the ThinkDiag2 i purchased it from amazon for about $130. Its a wireless scan tool that connects via Bluetooth with your phone. Its a very powerful tool ive programmed keys with it put rear brakes into maintenance mode you can scan and clear codes in multiple modules like CEL,ABS,SRS, Intergraded Driving Support and a lot more its like a full blown scan tool. It has Bi-directional Controls and you can see live data on the tool. Now im not entirely sure if Trans temp is on there but im almost 99% sure it would seeing as how it has a lot of other things you can do with it. Other than that i have a Snap On Zeus scan tool and i have the factory honda scan tool. Below is the link to the ThinkDiag2 scan tool hope this helps!
www.amazon.com/Thinkdiag2-Bidirectional-Diagnostic-Bluetooth5-0-Intelligent/dp/B09YRDGY3Z/ref=sr_1_3?crid=20V1611YVLXWK&keywords=think+diag&qid=1699584327&sprefix=think+dia%2Caps%2C104&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0
@@thehondatechnician thanks so much!! this is very helpful and great job on the video!
Assuming your transmission doesn't leak... Don't warm the transmission.. Just drain it... Measure the fluid, and Replace with same amount and temp..
Yes, you can definitely do that. I do that as well on this video I figured I would just show the procedures that Honda recommended
Is this the zf9speed?
Yes
Im concern, i have a 2019 touring 9 speed however my maintenance minder A3 for awd replace transmission fluid with ATF DW-1, every 2 year or 3Ok mileage which ever comes first. Anyone have the same suggestions?
“A3 for awd”? DW-1 is not for 9 speed transmissions
Do you drain hot or cold ?
service info doesn't specify to drain it hot or cold. so you should be good either way
Lol I just had my 10speed accord go in for a drain n fill 195 bucks they said if it was the 9 speed it’s like 400 dollars
Yea it’s a different fluid
If you measure exactly how much you drain and install that exact amount then you won't need to measure anything
Theoretical yes but sometimes temperature has a factor in fluid level
Does anyone else notice that 3.1 fluid smells bad like rotting beef? Worst smell fluid!!
😂
$31.00 for each plug. I dont replace them
Yea you can definitely do that as long as the rubber seal on the plug is fine you shouldn’t have an issue