It is great to see that you continued to video even with a glitch. This presentation enstills not just craftsmanship but dedication to finalize the project and discover other methods to achieve the final results. Awesome looking ring.
Thanks that is awesome looking ring! I am new to ring making and do not have a metal lathe just a small wood lathe and have considered buying some blanks for inserts off other sites made of stainless, cobalt, tungsten...etc or even use coin rings for inserts and then drilling out some deer horns I have and then lathe out a inlay in the middle and fill with black or blue or even white opal or something red not sure if opal comes in red, but mainly chips and dust with resin then shave off the outside on the lathe and finish the outside with a clear resin and polish.
Two Old Guys with Crossbows thanks for the comments man! I definitely think you should get into making rings, it’s a great hobby. If you are a handy man, which it sounds like you are you will have no problems making yourself an antler ring or any ring for that matter. You practically told me how you were going to make it in your comment, so use your wood lathe and make one! There are a lot of things that you can do making rings with a wood lathe and don’t necessarily need a metal lathe unless you want to cut your own metal rings.
Randy Smith Fabrications thank you I am looking forward to ring making and hoping I can make some cash as well I only have 3 years till full retirement and hoping this will be my retirement business to make extra cash! Question atm do you sell any of those silver liner blanks? And if yes how much? You can email me gregh911@outlook.com
Realmente un exelente elaboracion del aro tu damasquinado te quedo perfecto. Mil gracias por compartir tus conocimientos , un saludo desde La Paz Bolivia
True American Wood Design I hope you do make one 👍 that is what I want to inspire. I would advise you to try to make it stronger than this one though, the materials themselves are inherently weak and the rings break if you wear them for anything other than a dress ring, definitely don’t wear it to work.
Well as per usual I watched part B before hunting down part A but what the heck what are rabbit holes for if not for going down. Great instruction, I have a small wood lathe I think I will be able to tool up enough to make a ring or two, oh ya and I also have about 150 pounds of deer and elk horn.
You may have seen in other comments but I always warn everyone who says they want to try making one of these to make sure they use a thicker silver core than what I did. Antler is a very weak material so you have to make sure that the silver ring is strong so the ring won’t bend and break its bond to the antler. The silver core ring needs to be at least 1 1/2 to 2 mm thick or yours will break like mine did.
Spoke a "no" aloud after I saw you set those beautiful joints on those copper inlays and saw that cutting tool coming in from the left. :( Good save sir!
Theonlydump, yeah thank you. That was my first attempt at doing an inlay like that, didn’t take me long to figure out that the cutting tool wasn’t going to work (still like to show my mistakes though). Thanks for the comment.
I enjoy working with silver but have not yet tried working with argentium. I have made this ring in many different styles as well, with different bands, wires and inlays.
Richard L Koehler you’re welcome. If I could give you any recommendation or advice, that would be to use a thicker inner band of silver. I made multiple copies of this ring for many different people and most of them failed eventually, and the reason they failed was due to inherent material weakness. Silver and Antler are both weak and malleable materials, make it thick if you want it to last!
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Nice methods, beautiful results. Now is that the mini lathe from Harbor Freight? If so how do you like it for small lite duty projects such as these and the small sanding mandrel you made in your other video. I am a Navajo jeweler and contemplated on buying one for my jewelry work. I think it would be very handy and make life easier for certain types of projects. From your videos it seems to work for you fine, but I'd like to hear the experience of using it from you. Thanks.
White cap shop Thank you for the comments. It is the Harbor Freight lathe and it’s great, for the price, you can’t beat it. And for doing small jewelry work it’s perfect. That’s awesome that you are a Navajo Jeweler, I actually live in AZ and I’d love to see your work, you should email me, randysmithfabrications@yahoo.com
R, yes you could do it without the inner band. I do it with a silver inner band for looks and added strength because even though the antler is stabilized with resin it is still an inherently weak material, plus I just love working with silver. I have made many antler rings before without inner bands too (both stabilized and not) and have had great success with them as long as the antler is sealed with something like CA glue to prevent oil/water absorption and discoloration. Either way I would still very much consider any antler ring to be a dress ring and not something you would want to wear to work whether it has an inner band or not. Good luck and have fun making!!!
The rings you make are very beautiful! My husband and I really enjoyed watching you make them. As woodturners, we were very interested in your process. Would you mind telling me what gauge is the silver sheet metal that you use and where do you purchase your supplies? Thank you so much for sharing your videos.
Deb Matthews Thank you for watching my video I’m glad you enjoyed it. The thickness of the silver I used was 18 ga/1 mm thick. I would recommend that if you were planning on trying to make one of these rings for yourself that you use a much thicker gauge silver such as 14 ga/1.5mm or thicker cuz silver and antler are both inherently weak materials, you need to add strength! Many of those rings that I made of this model failed due to the fact that the innerband was only 1 mm thick so if you want one, make it bigger. I live in the southwest so I get my supplies from Rio Grande out of NM, they are awesome!
*watching*- well, i hope he cut those recesses in th ring deep enough for that copper, or thats just going to pop out trying to lathe cut it. *next scene, cutting starts in slo-mo.* i know what gonna happen..... nice work around with the dremmel though.
Not sure exactly what part you mean but I put a layer of CA glue on the top of the ring as a sealant and then I used Zam to polish both the silver ring on the inside and the sealer on the outside.
That expanding spindle holder you use in your lathe chuck to hold the ring while you shape it what is that spindle holder called and where can I buy one?
rik3gs 🤔hmmm not sure if I know exactly what you mean. The mandrels use have an internal screw that causes them to expand to hold your work, I don’t use anything else to assist the mandrel in holding my work. During the assembly I always use CA glue
@@randysmithfabrications2731 Sorry for my bad english, you are very kind, the question Is about holding the piece of antler you have just cut.. i bought a lathe Yesterday and im tryng ti understad how can i hold the antler beecause externally Its irregular and internally its not like wood.. screw a pin into the stage to begin with?
rik3gs ok friend, I’ll try to explain as best I can to help you out. Like you said, the outside of the antler is not perfectly cylindrical so it is therefore hard to hold, but it can be done. You don’t need a whole lot of pressure to hold it in the clamps of the lathe but once done you can drill a hole and bore the center big enough to then put it on your mandrel to work the outside. The best tool you can own for ring making besides a lathe is a ring mandrel! Let me know if you need any more help.
Hello! I have a question. Once the ring is finished, do you protect it with some product? My ring, if wet, is a little sticky until it dries. It's normal? Can I possibly finish it with cyanoacrylate glue? Thank you :)
Alessia Cusin, Yes I always protect my products with CA glue. I don’t know about your ring, depends on what it is made of. Whatever your material is, you can always finish it off with a layer of CA glue. Good luck! 👍 Always apply only one thin layer of CA glue (with a paper towel) at a time and always rough the dried surface of the coating before adding a new coating with some fine steel wool for better adhesion between the layers of CA glue as you add them.
Charles Davis you can find them online really easy, just Google “Ring Blank Sizing Chart” and search images. There are lots of them, the one I use is from Contenti
Adnan Ahmed Thank you, you wanting to buy it is a great compliment to me. Unfortunately this ring broke, as did many of its kin of the same design, for this reason I have retired this design and opted for a stronger design.
@@randysmithfabrications2731 Cool! Can you, 1) Do commissioned work, and 2) work with gold to make deer antler + gold rings? My husband shot a beautiful 6-point last hunting season and we want to have our wedding rings made with its antlers.
I would, if I had copied his design. Truthfully I found his video after I released mine and thought he had copied me till I read the details. I have a lot of respect for that guys carving skills but it’s just a coincidence that the rings are similar, he works with antler and skulls primarily, and I’m a silversmith. Doing a double banded inlay like this is actually very common, that’s why you will see that in my next video I added a stone inlay as well and you should do the same to give it added strength if you are going to make one.
Jon Parry , I suppose your question could be interpreted in many ways so I will answer a few. I soldered on a fire brick with a large size butane torch. I always use hard solder to solder my bands, and I use a tungsten pick to control the soldering. Thanks for the question🙏
@@JDubya90 It’s called pickle. It’s a warm acid solution to remove oxidation. There’s a few different types of pickle you can make but they’re most commonly made with sodium bisulfite, sulfuric acid or citric acid.
It is great to see that you continued to video even with a glitch. This presentation enstills not just craftsmanship but dedication to finalize the project and discover other methods to achieve the final results. Awesome looking ring.
really cool
Sweet nice work!!
Glad I found your channel please keep the videos coming. Very cool ring.
Excellent craftsmanship....:-)
beautiful ring
Jim Reynolds Thank You!
Thanks that is awesome looking ring! I am new to ring making and do not have a metal lathe just a small wood lathe and have considered buying some blanks for inserts off other sites made of stainless, cobalt, tungsten...etc or even use coin rings for inserts and then drilling out some deer horns I have and then lathe out a inlay in the middle and fill with black or blue or even white opal or something red not sure if opal comes in red, but mainly chips and dust with resin then shave off the outside on the lathe and finish the outside with a clear resin and polish.
Two Old Guys with Crossbows thanks for the comments man! I definitely think you should get into making rings, it’s a great hobby. If you are a handy man, which it sounds like you are you will have no problems making yourself an antler ring or any ring for that matter. You practically told me how you were going to make it in your comment, so use your wood lathe and make one! There are a lot of things that you can do making rings with a wood lathe and don’t necessarily need a metal lathe unless you want to cut your own metal rings.
Randy Smith Fabrications thank you I am looking forward to ring making and hoping I can make some cash as well I only have 3 years till full retirement and hoping this will be my retirement business to make extra cash! Question atm do you sell any of those silver liner blanks? And if yes how much? You can email me gregh911@outlook.com
Nicely done. :)
GomeowCreations thank you
Realmente un exelente elaboracion del aro tu damasquinado te quedo perfecto.
Mil gracias por compartir tus conocimientos , un saludo desde La Paz Bolivia
Thank you for watching and your kind comments! 🙏 I’d love to visit your beautiful country some day.
beautiful, beautiful, beeeeeeautiful. I want one, I think i will make one.
True American Wood Design I hope you do make one 👍 that is what I want to inspire. I would advise you to try to make it stronger than this one though, the materials themselves are inherently weak and the rings break if you wear them for anything other than a dress ring, definitely don’t wear it to work.
red vegiesoup Good for you man! Don’t let not having a lathe stop you. I’m still learning new things every day.
Awesome ring.
Really nice!
Well as per usual I watched part B before hunting down part A but what the heck what are rabbit holes for if not for going down. Great instruction, I have a small wood lathe I think I will be able to tool up enough to make a ring or two, oh ya and I also have about 150 pounds of deer and elk horn.
You may have seen in other comments but I always warn everyone who says they want to try making one of these to make sure they use a thicker silver core than what I did. Antler is a very weak material so you have to make sure that the silver ring is strong so the ring won’t bend and break its bond to the antler. The silver core ring needs to be at least 1 1/2 to 2 mm thick or yours will break like mine did.
That happened to me as well! With the copper inlay
doityourselfwithjoe yeah, I learned my lesson 😉
Nice !
Really cool ring. Only suggestion would be removing the grind marks on the copper.
Spoke a "no" aloud after I saw you set those beautiful joints on those copper inlays and saw that cutting tool coming in from the left. :( Good save sir!
Theonlydump, yeah thank you. That was my first attempt at doing an inlay like that, didn’t take me long to figure out that the cutting tool wasn’t going to work (still like to show my mistakes though). Thanks for the comment.
Thats a beautiful ring! Great video, well explained and also no cringe involved like other ring making channels :)
Davidoff Maximus, Pretty sure I know who you’re talking about 😉. Thanks for the nice comments!
Nice. Would be interesting to see with argentium silver band and wire
I enjoy working with silver but have not yet tried working with argentium. I have made this ring in many different styles as well, with different bands, wires and inlays.
Nice!!!
Nice
Lovely craftsmanship. Can you see the join at all where the 2 ends of the copper meet? Or do you have a method to hide this? Thanks
It's really nice. Alot of work and some fancy machines i couldnt afford. Could you make bracelets with silver wire in tracks cut into maybe copper?
Watched that copper snap out of the ring during the lathe session and I died inside lol
Shaded Zaleph yeah lol, me too. It was a bit of a frustrating process but satisfying to finish as well.
I intend to try that..Thank you.{your Rings}
Richard L Koehler you’re welcome. If I could give you any recommendation or advice, that would be to use a thicker inner band of silver. I made multiple copies of this ring for many different people and most of them failed eventually, and the reason they failed was due to inherent material weakness. Silver and Antler are both weak and malleable materials, make it thick if you want it to last!
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Wow!! I love your work beautiful..... What would a ring like that cost? Thank you!
Nice methods, beautiful results. Now is that the mini lathe from Harbor Freight? If so how do you like it for small lite duty projects such as these and the small sanding mandrel you made in your other video. I am a Navajo jeweler and contemplated on buying one for my jewelry work. I think it would be very handy and make life easier for certain types of projects. From your videos it seems to work for you fine, but I'd like to hear the experience of using it from you. Thanks.
White cap shop Thank you for the comments. It is the Harbor Freight lathe and it’s great, for the price, you can’t beat it. And for doing small jewelry work it’s perfect. That’s awesome that you are a Navajo Jeweler, I actually live in AZ and I’d love to see your work, you should email me, randysmithfabrications@yahoo.com
Hello great ring, really looks nice. Just curious how come you use a silver inner band, for looks or comfort? could you do it without the inner band?
R, yes you could do it without the inner band. I do it with a silver inner band for looks and added strength because even though the antler is stabilized with resin it is still an inherently weak material, plus I just love working with silver. I have made many antler rings before without inner bands too (both stabilized and not) and have had great success with them as long as the antler is sealed with something like CA glue to prevent oil/water absorption and discoloration. Either way I would still very much consider any antler ring to be a dress ring and not something you would want to wear to work whether it has an inner band or not. Good luck and have fun making!!!
The rings you make are very beautiful! My husband and I really enjoyed watching you make them. As woodturners, we were very interested in your process. Would you mind telling me what gauge is the silver sheet metal that you use and where do you purchase your supplies? Thank you so much for sharing your videos.
Deb Matthews Thank you for watching my video I’m glad you enjoyed it. The thickness of the silver I used was 18 ga/1 mm thick. I would recommend that if you were planning on trying to make one of these rings for yourself that you use a much thicker gauge silver such as 14 ga/1.5mm or thicker cuz silver and antler are both inherently weak materials, you need to add strength! Many of those rings that I made of this model failed due to the fact that the innerband was only 1 mm thick so if you want one, make it bigger. I live in the southwest so I get my supplies from Rio Grande out of NM, they are awesome!
Thank you so much for your response and advice. That information will definitely help.
Awesome work! Can i ask you the game of the piece where you put the ring on? Is perfect ti work easy with rings
It’s called a ring mandrel, the come in different sizes. I would recommend getting them from ringsupplies.com
Beautiful ring. Would you make into a set for sale and if so how much. Getting married and would love to have them made.
*watching*- well, i hope he cut those recesses in th ring deep enough for that copper, or thats just going to pop out trying to lathe cut it.
*next scene, cutting starts in slo-mo.* i know what gonna happen.....
nice work around with the dremmel though.
deth502 LOL Thanks man. That was a good one.
What did you use at the end? Some kind of grease or adhesive?
Not sure exactly what part you mean but I put a layer of CA glue on the top of the ring as a sealant and then I used Zam to polish both the silver ring on the inside and the sealer on the outside.
well done.. just wondering ..what is the angel on you inlay ?
jess taylor not sure I know exactly what you mean.
That expanding spindle holder you use in your lathe chuck to hold the ring while you shape it what is that spindle holder called and where can I buy one?
Two Old Guys with Crossbows They are called ring mandrels and you can get them many places but I would recommend ringsupplies.com
Great build but you should never use cloth to buff with on a lathe, you will lose a finger fast.
Willie Sims yeah my bad, I shouldn’t promote bad practices if I am putting examples of how to do things out there in the CZcams land.
Man you are awesome could i ask you a last question? What do you use to attach the antler to the mandril?
rik3gs 🤔hmmm not sure if I know exactly what you mean. The mandrels use have an internal screw that causes them to expand to hold your work, I don’t use anything else to assist the mandrel in holding my work. During the assembly I always use CA glue
@@randysmithfabrications2731 Sorry for my bad english, you are very kind, the question Is about holding the piece of antler you have just cut.. i bought a lathe Yesterday and im tryng ti understad how can i hold the antler beecause externally Its irregular and internally its not like wood.. screw a pin into the stage to begin with?
rik3gs ok friend, I’ll try to explain as best I can to help you out. Like you said, the outside of the antler is not perfectly cylindrical so it is therefore hard to hold, but it can be done. You don’t need a whole lot of pressure to hold it in the clamps of the lathe but once done you can drill a hole and bore the center big enough to then put it on your mandrel to work the outside. The best tool you can own for ring making besides a lathe is a ring mandrel! Let me know if you need any more help.
@@randysmithfabrications2731 thank you very much im grateful ti you, and you have a cool voice man think about dubbing movies!
Hello! I have a question. Once the ring is finished, do you protect it with some product? My ring, if wet, is a little sticky until it dries. It's normal? Can I possibly finish it with cyanoacrylate glue? Thank you :)
Alessia Cusin, Yes I always protect my products with CA glue. I don’t know about your ring, depends on what it is made of. Whatever your material is, you can always finish it off with a layer of CA glue. Good luck! 👍 Always apply only one thin layer of CA glue (with a paper towel) at a time and always rough the dried surface of the coating before adding a new coating with some fine steel wool for better adhesion between the layers of CA glue as you add them.
ok, thanks! :D
Where can I find the measurement chart? I want to get into making rings.
Charles Davis you can find them online really easy, just Google “Ring Blank Sizing Chart” and search images. There are lots of them, the one I use is from Contenti
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Thank you. I moved recently and I’m still working on getting my new shop set up but maybe I can get back to making some new videos soon. 👍
I want to buy it
Adnan Ahmed Thank you, you wanting to buy it is a great compliment to me. Unfortunately this ring broke, as did many of its kin of the same design, for this reason I have retired this design and opted for a stronger design.
What did you use on the ring at the very end?
What kind of glue do you use in your rings?
What kind of glue are you using? :)
Jacek Woda CA, either Bob Smith Or Locktite
How do you hammer so fast??
Clayton Haun I’ve been practicing since I was a teenager 😉
Do you work with deer antlers too?
Del Wilson yes, it’s a little smaller but basically the same.
@@randysmithfabrications2731 Cool! Can you, 1) Do commissioned work, and 2) work with gold to make deer antler + gold rings? My husband shot a beautiful 6-point last hunting season and we want to have our wedding rings made with its antlers.
Del Wilson yes and yes, email me at randysmithfabrications@yahoo.com
Is zam the only thing you use to finish?
Seth Fehringer no but it works well on silver.
Will ca glues give them a good finish?
Seth Fehringer yes
BTW you should give a shout out to U.S. Skull Hunter for making this ring 3 months before you
I would, if I had copied his design. Truthfully I found his video after I released mine and thought he had copied me till I read the details. I have a lot of respect for that guys carving skills but it’s just a coincidence that the rings are similar, he works with antler and skulls primarily, and I’m a silversmith. Doing a double banded inlay like this is actually very common, that’s why you will see that in my next video I added a stone inlay as well and you should do the same to give it added strength if you are going to make one.
What'd you use to solder?
Jon Parry , I suppose your question could be interpreted in many ways so I will answer a few. I soldered on a fire brick with a large size butane torch. I always use hard solder to solder my bands, and I use a tungsten pick to control the soldering. Thanks for the question🙏
@@randysmithfabrications2731 What is that solution that you put the silver band in after soldering it?
@@JDubya90 It’s called pickle. It’s a warm acid solution to remove oxidation. There’s a few different types of pickle you can make but they’re most commonly made with sodium bisulfite, sulfuric acid or citric acid.
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What did you use at the end? Some kind of grease or adhesive?