10 Things You Need To Know Before Buying An MR2
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If you’re young and looking to get a piece of that sweet RWD life, then your search will pretty much start and end with the Miata. But wait, have you ever considered a cool alternative? The Toyota MR2 could be everything you’ve been looking for, so here’s what you need to know!
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the best tip for MR2 buyers: DON'T TURN IT INTO A FERARI REPLICA!!!!!!!!
or a Fiero replica
lol who the fuck would want to turn their mr2 into a fiero? that's a DOWNGRADE
Will2133 not for the 80s version, that's what I believe they were based off of.
It ruins the mr2, not just your life
Or a lambo
DONT TELL ANYONE ABOUT THE MR2
IKR hahah
i agree lmao
yeah dude... this vid is gonna spike the prices and it's just gonna make it more sucky for people actually trying to buy them
creative_username Just what I was thinking! But there is also another reason, I dont want anyone to rice this masterpiece out!!!!!
I'm looking at buying one this weekend, £2k for a standard, near mint Rev1 Gt T-bar with modest mileage. Worth taking care of as an investment? Its nearly 27 years old now, and would be interesting to see what it'll be worth when its 35-40 years old.
Thanks Car Throttle for making my MR2 famous ;) they really are amazing cars!
Loved your review man, keep up the great work!
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your Deuce was already famous!
yooooooooooooo roads untraveled!!!!!!!!!!!
Pop out headlights,2 seat,rwd and starts with M?
Missan 240sx
Wtf a 240 in the uk? More like a 180sx
200sx on Finland.
lel
They dont have 4 seats if you remove rear
(is a joke,dont kill me)
200hp, rwd and cheap? 325i or 328i e36. Put a turbo on it, m3 cams, easy 400-500hp
I had an 86 MR2 and as far as oversteer is concerned, such an easy fix that I learned earlier as a mechanic, this applies to and cars or trucks. Drop the front tire pressure by no more than 2 psi, or in combination, raise the rear 1 psi and drop the front 1 psi. My MR2 did have a slight oversteer and this fix had it running in any of my driving conditions as solid as a rock - I did not baby it whatsoever. This method always worked for me over decades with all of my vehicles. I also used stick Bridgestones which far out performed the sad Dunlops from the factory.
The MR2 is better then the Miata. Not to mention looks better
It weighs about 250Kg more than a Eunos Roadster, that makes it worse seeing as weight is the enemy!
iHeart GT86 boring? I take it you've never driven a mildly tweaked Eunos Roadster. You may find it ugly but that didn't stop it becoming the most popular 2 seater sports car of all time ;)
I accidentally left the word lightweight out there too! I always wanted a Mk2 MR2 until I drove a Vspec Roadster, it just felt right but don't worry, I also owned a Caring II XL at the same time so fully appreciate that era of Toyota, they just didn't do lightweight cars at that time.
Lol, stupid phone, *Carina
The MX5 is just a tool for any driver to exploit, and it loves you for it. SO much fun. Whereas the MR2 just requires more concentration and bigger balls to carry the same speed - it doesn't feel that heavy though.
Yo my mind is getting fucked I was looking on craig's list at mr2's and then bam random video about buying one
We saw you and chose to act. Buy one.
We saw you and chose to act. Buy one.
its a sign. buy one lol
Same here, except I my wallet isn't fat enough.
I say, get a porsche boxster instead. same price, but faster and with porsche quality
First mod should be a rear wing. My father used to own an MR2 SW20 and we both agree that it looked better when it had a wing. Also, wider tires and different suspension/coilovers are mods I'd suggest
Watching this in 2022 really shows just how much the prices of these things has increased. Might find a ropey one these days for £4-5K. Bruh
2 years later, they go for 10k in germany :(
I feel like the tuk tuk video is turning into the wait for half life 3
+Juan pantoja 2 more sleeps.
+Car Throttle so I can take two naps and bam the videos up?
When are you making your next 2 guys 1 car video?
Illuminati from ZRK
You stole my joke
This is how ALL "educational" videos should be. Short, To the point, Accurate, and Packed with great information.
I have this car, the turbo version, purchased it a little less than a year ago in practically perfect condition with relatively low miles, and it has been my best decision ever. Absolutely love it, have no problems and makes getting where I need to be a blast! I am decently tall, 6'3 and fit comfortably even with the t tops
More videos like this please! It really helps a lot in buying decisions ^^
Thanks Car Throttle!
why is this not more popular choice then a miata? it looks better, its mid engine which just sounds awesome, and is quicker. also handles better when modded
mod the Mr2 and it will handle better than the mod Miata, because it has a better base
there is no better geometry than mid engine rear wheel drive. Its just physics
I didn't specify suspension geometry. Go to school your dumb!
The miata is not stiffer than an mr2 or anything for that matter. Miatas are known for lacking in body rigidity but they do handle really well. The sw20 is actually competitive in E street class and has won national championships.
in the USA, theres over 250,000 miatas. SW20 only were offered here for 91-94. So they're arent many available especially after 25 years later.
I bought my first gen MR2 this spring and finished working on it over the summer. I'm happy to see some MR2 love on the channel!
please do more video like these! it's very entertaining and instructive
omg, i was looking for information about the gearbox on the turbo version... this helped me heaps!
Nice video! Just some things to add (I own the MK1 MR2 and have owned several 2 litre Celica models)
- The 154bhp 3S-GE (1990 to 1994) is a good engine but can use quite some oil because of bad valve seals (which are replaceable)
- The 175bhp 3S-GE (1994 to 1998) is of much better quality. I owned a Celica with that engine and drove it up to almost 300.000km without any oil usage, and I wasn't easy on it. Without any breakdowns.
- The 3S-GE is more common in Europe. In Europe we did not get the 5S-FE and others.
- I think all MR2's need around 15 litres of coolant due too the front radiator and mid-engine. Yes getting the air out should be carefully done. Also the electrical thermal switch to turn on the electric fans might be broken and you won't notice it until your first trackday! (because you don't need the electric fans on the road)
- Overall, the video doesn't name the general things of driving a mid-engine car. It is fantastic, and I don't think it gets any cheaper (also in therms of low running costs!) to drive a mid-engined car. But it can be dangerous enough. I mean, even if you have a later model it doesn't mean snap off oversteer doesn't happen. The weight distrubution is different (it isn't a perfect 50%) and if the car is going into oversteer, there is a lot of weight coming around where other normal RWD cars are much lighter at the back.
- The 2.0 Turbo is obviously the fastest. And if you have the 245bhp 3S-GTE, it is easy to get it up to 300bhp. But then please stop because everything gets expensive beyond that point!
- There are LSD diffs available, both original Toyota (I think the turbo gearbox) as well as aftermarket ones.
- You haven't mentioned all the crazy people who do engine swaps to V6 engines! I mean, it is a good platform for it.
Including the powerful 280bhp 2GR-FE engine, which is the same as in the Lotus Evora! So that allows you to create your own cheap Evora.
When looking at the other generations: Both the MK1 and MK3 MR2's are much lighter than this MK2. So if you are looking for a lightweight racer instead of high power, the MK1 or MK3 would be better. But the MK1 is a rustbucket. (I know, I have one)
This video is perfect timing, I've literally been looking at these for the last week! It's a sign...
I had a G limited T bar Mr2 when I was in uni. It was green too. Loved it!
The other best tip for MR2 buyers: if u like Initial D then... Paint it blue and do the Irohazaka Jump. Make sure u have gud suspension
😬
It's interesting to hear that "earlier" (i.e. '93) cars suffered from snap oversteer. I owned an N reg MR2 so it would have been '95 MY and I managed to spin it twice. The second time I spun it 540 degrees and still didn't hit the side of the road. It spun like a top and only had 170BHP. It did turn in quite nicely though.
I had it for about three years from new and always loved the look. It was a bit of a sheep in wolf's clothing as it was nowhere near as fast as it looked but then I'd only been driving for a few years so that's probably just as well. After two and a half years my wife got pregnant so we swapped it for a 328i but I still remember how sad I felt to see it go.
This is a pretty good side series Car throttle, you guys should totally keep up with this series. I'm pretty sure many others including myself would appreciate and enjoy these
Had my Rew1 N/A for 2 years. Lowered with BC coilovers, low profile wheels. Then a vinyl chameleon wrap. Got to say, she is awesome. Drifts easily, no snap over steer since I had her. Just a lovely car to own and drive.
YES! YOU MADE AN MR2 VIDEO!
the mr2, is such a cooler car than miata. I mean mid engine
yes because it has a mid Engine it isn't cool ^^ go and Repair something on that shit
Exactly what I thought lol. The mid engine was the main reason why I got a miata instead of the mr2
of its ur Job to repair vehicles then u should understand this ^^ also why rx7/8 is stupid because of the rotary after 80.000km-100.000km u should replace those things(Bad English incoming ^^) in the engine oc it is a cool car and I will buy me one but I know it is a lot work and I will drive the rx7 not that often
Got an AW11, doesn't seem that big of a deal. Unless you are dropping the engine, then yea, need a lift to make it easy. Otherwise, feels like plenty of room to work.
but u have to compare them, in the car mid Engine is shit outside of the car its the same but on a Front Engine u dont have to get it out so it is better
This video is the decision maker ! Was literally looking into mr2 's yesterday!!
Wow this comes up as I'm looking for one and what issues to look out for, perfect timing!
I have a 91 and I just have to say that the whole snap oversteer thing is bull. Last year I was hanging the rear end out in the snow/rain all the time and never had a problem. If you can drive, you don't have to worry.
Tried to get my 91 to snap on me and had no luck either. As a matter of fact, without the rear engine bay brace, it tends to slide easier which is what you want when trying to control your traction loss. If you lose traction and the rear is too rigid, then you will snap oversteer.
p.s. and #neverlift lol
I think the snap oversteer problem only happens at high speeds, since there’s more weight weighing down the car on the rear + the mid engine layout + RWD = oversteer
Miata is too... done. Would choose an MR2 over a Miata any day of the century. But I prefer the AW 11.
The Miata is overdone for a reason though! It'll run rings around 90% of the cars you encounter on twisty roads and costs pretty much nothing. My MR2 is worth a lot more but I still prefer the little Miata, so much fun.
Miata is highly overrated. Chris Harris was spot on about them.
But it's not.. Stock, yeah they're a bit meh - plus he was driving a 1.8 IIRC which loses the revvy appeal, Some decent suspension and let the engine breathe a bit, epic fun. I can't think of anything in the world I'd rather spend £1k on
AW11 looks like a square box.
AW11 looks like a car that should be starring in Back to the future instead of that horrible Delorean... with right paint and bit of lowering/wheels they look like Starwars fighters.
Too bad prices are on the rise for them old MR-2's...
Thank you Car Throttle for introducing me to the Celica GT-Four. It's been a while since I fell in love with a car at first sight!
i own mr2 non turbo for 6 years and its so much fun,every time it makes me smile driving it
Surprised he didn't mention the different style roofs you can get. You can get a t-top, sun roof, hard top, and even a convertible. I personally like the hard top the best!
so when will he see the living with a tuc tuc episode
+Nicolai Can not Die This Friday...
+Car Throttle Alex actually roll with the Tuk Tuk and died. The road was slipecurry
Please do a video like this on the Toyota Altezza
Had a '94 MR2 Turbo back when I was studying in America for 6 years while taking my degree at Berkeley and it's an amazing thing to drive. With a small tweak with the stock turbo, I was able to bump the power up to about 262HP and with the upgrade of brake sets and a new titanium headers and a whole full set of Tein Super Street suspension setup, it was a super great machine to drive and it sounds wickedly good with the blow off valve throwing pressures behind you due to the midship and I never had issue with the snap oversteers.
THANK YOU
I've been considering getting my hands on one of these since I was like 14
can we see more of these kinds of videos please :)
In french MR2 sounds like "et merde" which means "oh shit" x)
Pretty sure they rebadged it as MR because of that lol
As in
"Oh shit that's one nice car!"
:^)
Lol
My dad still has, and runs, his '85 MR2 MK1.
Awesome car. 👍
Ahhh the memories, my very first car after graduating from driving my parents Datsun Sunny in the 90's, snapped it once and once only but once you find the sweet spot it's the most rewarding car I've ever owned that is until last Friday when I bought myself a 911/996
"Unexpected reverse entry into a brick wall" :D :D
Pop up headlights
As an MR2 owner this is chill
The Over Steer in near and street car can be corrected by adjusting the tire pressures - To a Max of 2 PSI from front to rear with the lowest up front. Heck I learned this back in the 70s
I've wanted one of these since I was about 12 years old. It's crazy to see how much prices for these vehicles in the US have skyrocketed. They're anywhere from 8k-26k now. I fear by the time I save enough for one they'll be running more in the 12k-30k range. Hell, by that time the only ones left for purchase may end up being ones exported from Japan...obviously not the most affordable or convenient option. I could potentially cave...RHD would be pretty neat to have. It would cost nearly 26-30k though when all is said and done!
importing them from japan isnt actually a terrible option, especially with how the market is and how auctions/inspections are run
i dont like the way he says celica, I thought it was cell-eh-ka
Only in the USA do they pronounce it like that.
They fairly get in the way of my 1.6L Eunos Roadster on the track anyway ;)
Cant help but notice it everytime on the different car channels. They say "Ce-li-ka. Like not flowing, natural. Celica.
Don't worry, people pronounce same words differently in each country. US pronounces a bunch of things incorrectly, but at least we do say Celica closer to the way Japanese say it =P
Just say Silly Car
Thanks for making this video I've been wanting to build a mr2 track car for a while!
Nice & concise, thank you!
A Fiero w/ 3800SC swap is a better car, less prone to snap oversteer although was prone to bumpsteer which can be massaged with updated suspension bits.
got so happy when is saw they put my car in a video
Same!
Got a '96 T Tops Bathurst with Red Top BEAMS
Wbu?
I got a 91 Hardtop with NA engine. I have a video of mine on my page
I have a 91 mr2 turbo all original with 66k miles haha
91 turbo here with gen4 3sgte
Now that im looking into a first cars this has been on the top of my list
So for the past 2 days I have been researching this car, andddd today you make a video. Perfect.
Hyde 330 m
"MR2 for LIFE" !!!
But I love my 91 mr2 na 5sfe even if I do, do reverse entry into a brick wall. Gotta love a car that fights back right?
That's a really nice video !
Really instructive.
91 mr2 was my first car I bought out of highschool after having a 3speed gremlinx.. 7 years later still rolling had in it, mr2 4 life!
After buying my turbo mr2 a couple months ago all i see is nothing but videos on mr2's and blogs.... My god
Yeah I'd say they're climbing up in popularity, they deserve it!
andezzat Yea its crazy! Same thing happened when i own my Porsche 944 They started going up in popularity not fast as the MR2 but substantial.
buy a viper then, so vipers get even more popular and people buy them more!!
+Supdawggx Supdawgerr they're getting even more popular, especially since they are not continuing selling them
+Supdawggx Supdawgerr maybe I will haha, track day bro
These price estimates, oh how I miss you 2016 car economy
In 2021 you can expect 6-12000€ for the same...
Keep this series going
I own two of these cars - a yellow targa SW20 3S-GE and a red targa 3S-GTE. Both manual, 1994 models. Very awesome cars, couldn't wish for anything better!
Do these top 10s with other cars!
10 things before buying a Supra? going to be buying one soon. I've done a lot of research on the forums but would be nice if u could make a video.
If you don't know anything about Supra's then you don't deserve to buy one lol.
what year and mark is it ? are you buying a mark 4? if so the 2jz engine likes to trow belts
Eyyyyy I got one!
+JDM Fanboy username checks out
Well aren't you special
Here in the UK. Got a rev5 mr2 in red with chrome rims 137000 miles. What a lovely car and still gets looks from people. Just clean the oil regularly and check on it and it should last a long time.
A couple months ago I ended up getting a '97 Trans Am WS6 M6... freakin' love it.
Do this with more cars
*fitting a timing belt isn't cheap or easy*
I love my Mr2 Turbo and devote my Channel to it. Its my every-day car , iv got a 1991 n/a as well which is up for grabs, But the sills need doing. Any one who wants a great looking car and so much fun to drive , Get a Mr2, Trust me. Great vid guys. Keep up the good work.
I love how with out the rear spoiler, these MR2's have a testarossa vibe going on from certain angles. I would most def like to own one of these cars one day.
Mr2>Mx-5 Miata, who else agrees?
+E46 BMW DUDE Alex has always thought this.
+Car Throttle WOW really?😂 Why doesn't he buy one then?
Yeah, the MX-5 is all those things - but it's also slow and girly looking, which the MR2 is not, at least the turbos. I guess other than the 2 seats and pop up headlamps they don't have much in common.
yes
ruble
What about a del sol?
It is also recommended to have wider tires in the rear which will help keep the car balanced. (Former owner of a '91 NA, '93 NA and '00 Spyder)
OH MY GOD, I WAS JUST BEGINNING TO LOOK FOR AN SW20 A WEEK AGO, I LOVE YOU GUYS
I miss the prices
well holy shit how the prices have changed
Oh man that drift at 2:06 was skillfully executed.
Mad props to whoever was driving, drifting a car notorious for snap oversteer like an MR2 takes a lot of skill.
thats exactly my story. originally wanted an MX5 for that 90s nostalgia. then the thought of an MR2 came up. Checked them out, liked it, bought one, n never looked back!
can you guys do a 240sx/180sx?
Not a bad idea!
Love to see an Rx7 one.
+blyndrotor me too ..
how am i supposed to afford a car when i cant even get the new NASCAR game?
+David Bamboo 180sx/200sx/240sx are basically the same car with different name, engine options and trim options.
aye ct tomorrow's my burthday
Happy birthday for tomorrow!
Aye me too
happy birthday ctzen
One more thing worth mentioning is grip. Lots and lots of it. You won't break grip when accelerating like you do with front engine cars. I own rev3 turbo and nothing but love past 6 years.
I owned a rev 2 and rev 3 for a total of 8 yrs they were epic and I'd have another in a heartbeat esp a turbo!
Tip number one: Don't buy a Sw20, buy an Aw11!
A supercharged one!
*****
Errr, this is to do with mr2's, not dinosaurs?!
***** why the nead for a boat anchor?
*****
why would you use an mr2 for drifting?
Mister j bought one today
Imagine paying 1k for an sw20 mr2
I got my MR2 a month ago and i gotta say I love it!
Excellent video
I'll take the original, specifically an 88 Fiero.
I've got a 2006 mr2 roadster
The last model
Are u a hairdresser
damn we need some more before you buy type vids like this; super helpful! especially for someone like me looking for a good starter car
to fix the steering radius, swap the steering wheel with a smaller one, you can use newer wheels like the celica gts one from the early 2000s. Also beware of exhaust manifold warp, and oil leaks. Speaking from experience the worst problem ive had since owning one is that my 3rd gear synchro is failing, but other than that it's my favorite car to own, fun to drive and everyone always asks me about it when im stopped in parking lots or gas stations.
Steelies on a MR2 is he biggest mistake ever
Pound foot? What a ridiculous measurement. Newtons, CT. Newtons.
There is no real difference, it's like grams vs ounces. Makes no difference whatsoever, other than it is convenient if someone uses a unit that you are accustomed to.
No. If you want to be exact, you should use a force and not a weight. A newton is not the same thing as a pound.
^ this guy remembers physics.
guigui045 Weight is force. While kilograms are a unit of mass, pounds are actually only a unit of weight and not mass (weight varies with local gravity). So while yes kilogram-meters would not be a technically correct thing to use, "pound feet" are fine and a valid and accepted unit of torque.
***** In the US it's because the construction workers are just used to it. So materials are sold in imperial units because they're just used to it makes it easy for the workers. Also we use 1 gallons a lot and the equivalent metric wouldn't be as easily to monetize. If you're an engineer you'll use metric, that's for sure. For everyday talking we use imperial. Oh also some of our sports still use imperial, like American football is a 100 yard field, so it's something people easily can visualize. It's in all honesty, just something we're used to.
I freaking hate measuring in imperial units (what we call standard here) since it's always in a fraction, drives me nuts. When I'm designing anything, I use metric since it's easier to work with for me.
Hello Car throttle! Could you do this on more cars? This informative video was great! Thanks!
Got my MR2 rev3 backwards so many times 👀 So much fun and controllable too, until it bites your hand off. I really liked the pedal layout as well.
It blew up, though. Ah well.
"one of the most affordable" well that aged poorly
And the 11th thing you should know is ? ..well check out the short video on my channel !?!
see what you mean - nice
my point exactly
now this should be a series, do everything from bmws to suzukis. buying guide and maintenance tips 😀
It would be great if you all put up an MR2 AW11 video. I am sure there are many other requests but this would be great to see from Car Throttle.
10 Things You Need To Know Before Buying An MR2
1- DON'T SNAP THE OVERSTEER
2-DON'T SNAP THE OVERSTEER
3-DON'T SNAP THE OVERSTEER
4-DON'T SNAP THE OVERSTEER
5-DON'T SNAP THE OVERSTEER
6-DON'T SNAP THE OVERSTEER
7-DON'T SNAP THE OVERSTEER
8-DON'T SNAP THE OVERSTEER
9-DON'T SNAP THE OVERSTEER
10-DON'T SNAP THE OVERSTEER
11. DON'T PLAY CRAZY FOR LOVE SONG
12. DON'T DO IROHAZAKA JUMP
Why would you get an MR2 when you can buy a Pontiac Fiero? They are quite cheap, and they are also mid-engined with RWD. They also feature pop-up headlights. But the real kicker is that you will never have body rust because of plastic body panels.
sw20 looks better, faster, and handles better.
Even the AW11 was better in everything except torque.
If the MR2 never existed, we'd all be madly in love with the Fiero, and there are still a few really dedicated people out there, but the MR2 is just better in nearly every single way.
i think the fiero gt looks better and it has a higher limit of grip than an MR2
killerkon141 Looks are subjective and grip is largely limited by tyres.
tires do have a lot to do with grip, yes, but the fiero (at least the '88) had a more advanced suspension design that didn't incorporate the macpherson strut. the MR2 has a slightly favorable weight distribution, but the wider track of the fiero kept it more planted and less prone to snap oversteer.
I had a 1993 MR2, apart from a few cosmetic stuff, most loved and favourite car I've ever owned. The engine was so solid!
Does the 93 model still have the snap steering issue? It’s what I came to this video to figure out 😅
There are two MR-2s in the back of my Dad's shop which were supposed to by mine (one then the other, not both), one Turbo and the other non-Turbo.
Couldn't get either of them though, because the Turbo has title and previous owner issues.
Upsets me every time I look at them.