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  • @xMontorix
    @xMontorix Před měsícem +707

    If LIVE comes out yall better not shit on it AGAIN. If it's bad PRETEND that it's good so they can put pressure on 2K.

    • @KAY4K19
      @KAY4K19 Před měsícem +34

      I believe that 2k doesn’t have a big budget to make their games, hence why everything so damn high in the game then they mess the game up on purpose to get more money.🤔💯

    • @TheKiddAce11
      @TheKiddAce11 Před měsícem +33

      😂😂😂 at this point we have to

    • @feezygaming5882
      @feezygaming5882 Před měsícem

      @@KAY4K19nigga they been the only game on the market for how long now?

    • @keiboi1258
      @keiboi1258 Před měsícem +13

      Agreed

    • @scatterthoughts
      @scatterthoughts Před měsícem +43

      Exactly 😂 I’m ready to push an agenda

  • @dakotahicks617
    @dakotahicks617 Před měsícem +862

    Tired of paying 30,000 vc for a damn t shirt

    • @Sessho4
      @Sessho4 Před měsícem +82

      I would never, lol. I don't think you're tired enough.

    • @PointGod_
      @PointGod_ Před měsícem +20

      I’m still a 60 with my first bulid and I got it in December

    • @amyst_ksoo5276
      @amyst_ksoo5276 Před měsícem +55

      @@PointGod_you’re just trash then🤣

    • @PointGod_
      @PointGod_ Před měsícem

      @@amyst_ksoo5276 I play it on hall of fame and average a 27 point triple double

    • @PointGod_
      @PointGod_ Před měsícem +19

      @@amyst_ksoo5276 it just long to do it without vc

  • @GODLYROTATION
    @GODLYROTATION Před měsícem +364

    NBA LIVE LETS GOOO

    • @DeitrichThomas
      @DeitrichThomas Před měsícem +8

      Can't wait for this I'm definitely buying this

    • @Hondo1738
      @Hondo1738 Před měsícem +4

      It’s gonna be ass why are you excited about it

    • @kenjones3205
      @kenjones3205 Před měsícem +5

      @@DeitrichThomasyou gonna be waiting a long time. Live ain’t coming back no time soon.

    • @_yt3731
      @_yt3731 Před měsícem

      @@Hondo1738 now you just hating stfu😭

    • @ykyoungin6466
      @ykyoungin6466 Před měsícem

      Idk why ya getting ya hopes up is their even proof?

  • @TheThinkingMansTemplar
    @TheThinkingMansTemplar Před měsícem +192

    Live doesnt NEED THE NBA!!!! just make a basketball with a park, 5v5 and if people wanna play a season just do it with made up teams or let us make the teams like pro-Am.. let us create builds , keep the gameplay good, stay out our pockets and its a automatic win..

  • @152C4M
    @152C4M Před měsícem +303

    If live comes back 2k gone get better

  • @ytkise99
    @ytkise99 Před měsícem +137

    EA need to drop another nfl street to

    • @KGrizz501
      @KGrizz501 Před měsícem +29

      Nah gang NBA Street vol 4 and Def jam fight for ny

    • @SwayMakesVideos
      @SwayMakesVideos Před měsícem +12

      Y’all thinking of EA big that’s not really the same company. They were shut down

    • @Jay18367
      @Jay18367 Před měsícem +1

      Street Volume was life

    • @Jay18367
      @Jay18367 Před měsícem +2

      Ea might bring back college basketball as well 👀

    • @Posterizebaby
      @Posterizebaby Před měsícem +1

      @@KGrizz501YUP🗣️🗣️

  • @Dignify2K
    @Dignify2K Před měsícem +126

    Get Badge to 1M 🗣️

  • @KAY4K19
    @KAY4K19 Před měsícem +114

    🤣 I stopped playing 2k since January 1st, we need a game like live at this point. Ion care if we jumping through the board I want a new gaming experience not no arcade shit.💯💯

    • @kobeisonline
      @kobeisonline Před měsícem +3

      same! best decision of my life💯

    • @TOoLoUd89292
      @TOoLoUd89292 Před měsícem +4

      That's all EA is everything arcade😂 Madden is trash NBA live is trash not like it used to be

    • @Posterizebaby
      @Posterizebaby Před měsícem +4

      lol you came to the wrong place nba live is nothing but arcady shit lol

    • @KAY4K19
      @KAY4K19 Před měsícem

      @@Posterizebaby Fuck outta here, Live is not arcadey, 2k is arcade asf and I bet you agreed to that TOS just to play a game that is now not going to reimburse you anything when they fuck up the game on purpose to get more money outta their consumers. WAKE UP They DON’T have a big budget to create these games🤣💯

    • @DwillVision
      @DwillVision Před měsícem +3

      Same here, I switched from Xbox to ps5, then just drop kicked 2k out of my life. I have a family to take care and when I found myself including vc on my grocery list I said it’s time to go

  • @CallMemr_24
    @CallMemr_24 Před měsícem +162

    i hope so . 2k gettin boring😭 these vc prices crazy

    • @Bodmonn
      @Bodmonn Před měsícem +1

      You think EA in 2024 gonna be any better? They gonna charge us for multiple builds😭

    • @dakotahicks617
      @dakotahicks617 Před měsícem +11

      Very crazy. Live don't really do pay 2 play and it's better bc you have full total control over your player. Something 2k just won't seem to allow.

    • @Vasco224
      @Vasco224 Před měsícem +2

      Plus they got rid of the quantity of my career vc from endorsements

    • @CallMemr_24
      @CallMemr_24 Před měsícem +5

      and plus 2k gonna get better because they gonna have sum competition

    • @candeer3743
      @candeer3743 Před měsícem

      Fr I need NBA live back im pre ordering when I see it

  • @DeezyRoc
    @DeezyRoc Před měsícem +31

    If it comes back, I’m getting it off rip, need something new

    • @KAY4K19
      @KAY4K19 Před měsícem +2

      Ong tired of the same ole boring repetitive gameplay💯💯.

  • @Shadow_Tensei
    @Shadow_Tensei Před měsícem +45

    Make nba live great again

  • @spazzgokrazy3124
    @spazzgokrazy3124 Před měsícem +28

    Bruh imagine NBA live 25 builder system vs 2K25. Gonna be crazy. EA hope you can do better.

  • @balsheet0510
    @balsheet0510 Před měsícem +40

    No matter what happens i can confidently say nba2k25 is not an option for me. 🚶🏽‍♂️

    • @TheThinkingMansTemplar
      @TheThinkingMansTemplar Před měsícem +2

      Nah I'm definitely done

    • @pjwallo7460
      @pjwallo7460 Před měsícem +10

      Facts I’m done losing money over this shi . Build not even a real 99

    • @Ant730-the-God
      @Ant730-the-God Před měsícem +2

      🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢

    • @samueljames7781
      @samueljames7781 Před měsícem

      @@pjwallo7460😂😂fr tho

    • @samueljames7781
      @samueljames7781 Před měsícem

      @@Ant730-the-Godyh they got get it when their favorite utubers are payed to hype the game up

  • @troymc9
    @troymc9 Před měsícem +11

    NCAA Basketball EA should swing at too. They already have the NIL framework for the College Football game.

    • @kasiadinero1695
      @kasiadinero1695 Před 26 dny

      I played NCAA Basketball 09 recently anddd I think 2k should make it 😂

  • @justinfreeman21
    @justinfreeman21 Před měsícem +16

    I got back on nba live 19 simply because it’s more fun than 2k

  • @ItsParkercc
    @ItsParkercc Před měsícem +61

    Bro I still play live 19

    • @kanij2880
      @kanij2880 Před měsícem +8

      Same

    • @sambeezy007
      @sambeezy007 Před měsícem +2

      Same

    • @sleepyillusions
      @sleepyillusions Před měsícem +4

      Same here, one of my favorite games by far still

    • @sambeezy007
      @sambeezy007 Před měsícem +2

      @@sleepyillusions Yeah. It definitely has the fun factor.

    • @sambeezy007
      @sambeezy007 Před měsícem +1

      What are yall's favorite archetype(s)?

  • @Mikey_EverythingK
    @Mikey_EverythingK Před měsícem +24

    Please EA save us 🙏

    • @LB14745
      @LB14745 Před 17 dny

      It's from 4-5 years ago, it's about Live 20. So don't keep your hopes too high.

  • @uchgamerx
    @uchgamerx Před měsícem +9

    Even if it's trash, we need competition bruh. 2K can't be the only one making an NBA video game

  • @tysmith8880
    @tysmith8880 Před měsícem +1

    Yo Badge great vid 💯🔥🔥 and 1million coming soon p.s EA said this ain't the only jersey we been working on 👀

  • @Tblock4life
    @Tblock4life Před měsícem +7

    Let’s gooo!!!!! I wanted nba live 19 to win so bad, I spent countless hours sending devs videos and pictures of gameplay bugs or glitches on Reddit. I miss it low key knowing you caught a bug and knowing the live team was going to fix it, probably the only team of devs that cared at the time.

  • @samuraibeastwarrior2886
    @samuraibeastwarrior2886 Před měsícem +24

    I just want competition

  • @8BlackMamba8
    @8BlackMamba8 Před měsícem +1

    Great coverage Badgey! Thanks for keeping hope alive my brother. Atp I would even play an off brand game like And 1 remastered hell even A remake of Ballers would take me off 2K24 😂 I cant wait for NCAA 25 its time for A new sports game to take over. Dope video

  • @Rahshie
    @Rahshie Před měsícem +14

    the crazy thing about live is there were no microtransactions back in live 19 you start off as a 75 and get to a 99 just by playing if the next one is like that there blowing 2k out the water

  • @dudunkz-_-
    @dudunkz-_- Před měsícem +7

    EA is taking the same approach with NBA live that they did with college football

  • @Moneyman-lx3nw
    @Moneyman-lx3nw Před měsícem +8

    NBA live needs to come back

  • @TheKingteezy23
    @TheKingteezy23 Před měsícem +15

    The thing I like about live even tho this one is old af is it’s just straight basketball just get on and play..no extra bs like Gatorade boost and all that..that’s give you an advantage over your opponent..just like when 2k17 had them silly a$$ park cards it’s just always something extra with 2k

    • @979vlogs7
      @979vlogs7 Před 23 dny

      Hey man 2k17 was lit no 2k17 disrespect will be tolerated

  • @Hype2k23
    @Hype2k23 Před měsícem +8

    I will never go back to 2k if live comes out

  • @dejamike88
    @dejamike88 Před 17 dny

    For us older folks, Live is what got us into basketball games since live 95. 2k is making the same mistake that Live made in the late 90s and early 2000s, which is getting lazy since there weren’t any competitions. It’s good for consumers when companies compete.

  • @HoodieLeeClips
    @HoodieLeeClips Před měsícem +7

    NBA Live 25 Will be a good game if it really comes out and people buy Live over 2k and here why
    1 it’s not money spent
    2 Game Fun
    3 Ea Listen to their community
    Etc.

    • @KAY4K19
      @KAY4K19 Před měsícem +1

      Period cuh, this true asf.💯👏🏽

    • @samcreese64
      @samcreese64 Před měsícem

      Ea is just as bad as 2k with the micro transactions

    • @HoodieLeeClips
      @HoodieLeeClips Před měsícem +1

      @@samcreese64 the game is not money spent u gotta grind it

    • @samcreese64
      @samcreese64 Před měsícem

      @@HoodieLeeClips obviously but ea doesn’t listen to their fan base and it’ll be a meta play style on there as well so pretty much being the same as 2k

    • @HoodieLeeClips
      @HoodieLeeClips Před měsícem

      @@samcreese64 😂😂😂 Facts

  • @BigHood037
    @BigHood037 Před měsícem +27

    NBA live need 2 comeback I miss it so 🎯

  • @DGamesForFun
    @DGamesForFun Před měsícem

    It's good to see someone drop a recent video. Been playing live for the past 2-3 yrs and much prefer it over 2k

  • @chriss6317
    @chriss6317 Před měsícem +5

    If I'm NBA Live I want Agent00 as my face on CZcams IYKYK

  • @dylangammill2389
    @dylangammill2389 Před měsícem +1

    I know it’s a long shot but I’d love for them to also bring back the ncaa basketball games from back in the day. Maybe have it to where u can carry your players from the college game to nba live like the old maddens

  • @keagantaylor5999
    @keagantaylor5999 Před měsícem +2

    W video badge plug but i got a question what is the NBPA and what dose it mean

  • @tjaaaymindset3
    @tjaaaymindset3 Před měsícem +6

    I JUST WANT ANYTHANG EXCEPT ANOTHER 2k 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @bkdareal4657
    @bkdareal4657 Před měsícem

    Live definitely needs to comeback. Live 19 i got a build to 99 overall with no money spent on the build. Matter of fact the only money i spent was buying the game. All cosmetics was earned with currency i got for just playing the game or the Live Run events. Live to me has ALWAYS been fire and I've been playing it since the SNES days

  • @kanij2880
    @kanij2880 Před měsícem +5

    Bruh I am gonna miss the nba live 19 just unlocking skill points I already know they gonna make you pay to upgrade

  • @WLG_JLGAMING
    @WLG_JLGAMING Před měsícem +12

    Thank u Jesus surely hope so cause I’m tired of 2k

  • @teamggf
    @teamggf Před měsícem

    This is great content I'm glad you're getting this news out early. I'm on board with switching to NBA live. But they have to make it cross play that was the one thing that made me feel good about the next in 2K I'm speaking in terms of the launch regarding 2K24. I know they still have some issues with connection problems. However for the most part I don't have too many issues with the cross today it's a great thing. If NBA live doesn't have cross play and it needs to work at least at a decent level. I will be sticking with NBA 2K. I can't deal with the community being broken up and divided because everybody hasn't switched over to NextGen we need the player base to be big enough being that it's not going to sell as much as 2K anyway. They absolutely have to have cross play. In I'm in

  • @iso330leftalone3
    @iso330leftalone3 Před měsícem

    🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 Bring back Live NBA & NFL Street

  • @g4lsupreme542
    @g4lsupreme542 Před měsícem +2

    Live should price at $20 like nfl2k5 did just to corner the market and interest.. they have to win some of us over ..

  • @vlon3ne
    @vlon3ne Před měsícem +11

    Noti gang wya

  • @lidb2
    @lidb2 Před měsícem

    Letsss goo these need to drop rn I still play nba live 19 tot this day

  • @BilllyJeen
    @BilllyJeen Před 8 dny +1

    If nba live jus drop a demo of a new live that’s another way to see the community reaction about it

  • @ambidextrous2667
    @ambidextrous2667 Před měsícem +3

    Yeah if nba live comes back I’m off 2k ASAP. 2k too greedy

  • @2kShwags
    @2kShwags Před měsícem +3

    my main build literall at a 86 cuz i refuse to spend money on the game frfr. i used to have 6+ builds in older 2k's. but not anymore its sad bruh. ima get live for sure

  • @spidersilva429
    @spidersilva429 Před měsícem +1

    I've been a 2k fan forever but the time has come! Idc how the game is, I know it can be more fun than 2k at this point!

  • @mrmeech3872
    @mrmeech3872 Před měsícem +3

    pattherocktv confirmed 3 weeks ago that it's
    "coming soon"
    under his reel doing mocap

  • @Drake_Williamson
    @Drake_Williamson Před měsícem

    I love nba live 19 I still play it happy the small community is amazing

  • @patrickbrowne2594
    @patrickbrowne2594 Před 24 dny

    I started back playing and when you just appreciate the game for being different and not plagued with micro transactions you can enjoy it, plus the swag in the game to me is unmatched to actually earn in the game as well as the shoes.

  • @919chukles
    @919chukles Před měsícem

    I'd love it if they made a NCAA basketball game. That could be dope using older players as well.

  • @israelluceromusic
    @israelluceromusic Před 17 dny

    live 19 was good but everyone hated on it when it came out, and I want them to comeback with a good game but what i really want is a new fight night boxing game.

  • @joshuaquinones9760
    @joshuaquinones9760 Před 19 dny

    If they actually do it, It would be cool to have FULL team customization like NHL or the old Madden games

  • @dawsonkeigley2097
    @dawsonkeigley2097 Před měsícem

    If there a live 25 that’s cheap and good ima end up probably playing over 2k hoping

  • @NefariousNewfie
    @NefariousNewfie Před měsícem +3

    “We’re expanding our vision” means “we’re adding microtransactions”

  • @TEDSHOTTHAT
    @TEDSHOTTHAT Před měsícem

    Hmm at least they are taking their time to probably do it alot better this time. They know 2k is on top now.
    It would be a great thing if they blow it out the park this time.
    I would definitely go back to Live like back in the days before 2k

  • @iSwaggs2000
    @iSwaggs2000 Před měsícem

    If i’m not mistaken that website has been saying that for a few years now. But if they make a new nba live i just hope it’s on PC as well. Nba Live would still be very much alive if it was on PC.

  • @hunnidbandcfn8619
    @hunnidbandcfn8619 Před 12 dny

    All they need to do is drop live and make a new boxing game and they got us 😂😂💯💯

  • @btwmason
    @btwmason Před měsícem +5

    i can confirm that update note was on the ea website.

    • @kenjones3205
      @kenjones3205 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah, about 5 years ago.

    • @btwmason
      @btwmason Před měsícem

      it doesnt say the date but its different from the other update they posted@@kenjones3205

  • @kenjones3205
    @kenjones3205 Před měsícem +1

    The difference between College Football and NBA Live is College Football didn’t get cancelled because lack of sales.

  • @thats_meezy252
    @thats_meezy252 Před měsícem

    Imagine they dropped this season with all the wnba rookies hype😮‍💨

  • @Kpdadon87
    @Kpdadon87 Před měsícem

    That 2025 live has to be like that 05 2k football wit T.O on the front best football game ever made. Live has to make that impact if they want ppl to come back

  • @hasandutton5498
    @hasandutton5498 Před 15 dny

    I went back to live 19 and enjoyed it more than 2k24

  • @channelxer0626
    @channelxer0626 Před měsícem

    I want March Madness too! 2K or EA. And being able to import draft classes again.

  • @dreamcage1801
    @dreamcage1801 Před 4 dny +1

    NBA live and NBA the life should comeback

  • @ValSempai
    @ValSempai Před 24 dny

    This all feels so....timely for me because out of nowhere I downloaded live 19 to my ps5 like a month ago just because i missed it now ive seen like 3 or 4 different content creators talk about/play live 19/ since then xD

  • @nyfinestgully
    @nyfinestgully Před měsícem +3

    ima die hard nba2k player but after this horrible year of 2k24 im praying for competition, or a different basketball game. plus nba live wont cost a thing to play in comparison to nba2k. 2k has forgot all about the player experience and fun factor, the vc structure/ demonic terms of sevice/horrible servers/horrible rewards/stupid bans for no reason, plus mike wang making shooting rng killed this franchise this year im done lol.

  • @eyeamfranchyze
    @eyeamfranchyze Před 27 dny

    People who have been riding 2K will continue to ride 2K and they will continue to spend money on 2K cause that’s all they know. Hopefully NBA Live can make a comeback and return to being that basketball game we know they can be.

  • @samueldotson2809
    @samueldotson2809 Před měsícem +2

    The should do it as a 30 year anniversary.

  • @micahking955
    @micahking955 Před měsícem

    The fact that $20 in 2k16 could make your build good asf. Now that shit cant even get you pass 75 is crazy

  • @codystone685
    @codystone685 Před měsícem

    The day it drops I’m buying it. I don’t care what the cost or trailer are looking like.

  • @HustleJus
    @HustleJus Před 22 dny

    NBA Live 19 Been the best NBA Game i playing atm; love the career mode; it a much more challeging then 2K

  • @showoutgaming3359
    @showoutgaming3359 Před měsícem +2

    Idc what the next nba live play like....im on it the day it release. And i will be patient with it ...the same way i have been with 2k 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @pmtrillmusic
    @pmtrillmusic Před měsícem +2

    Yessir 🔥🔥

  • @Goinhard_Allyear
    @Goinhard_Allyear Před 19 dny

    I hope nba live can partner up wit ncaa college hoops we wont a new ncaa college hoops "25-26"

  • @TheThinkingMansTemplar
    @TheThinkingMansTemplar Před měsícem +2

    Im copping immediately...

  • @twalters6551
    @twalters6551 Před měsícem +2

    In the early 2000s live was better then 2k

    • @kenjones3205
      @kenjones3205 Před měsícem

      Who cares! 2K was a new game in the early 2000s.

    • @puuskiii
      @puuskiii Před měsícem

      @@kenjones3205yes. Bc 2k wasn’t following the realistic format that they’re tryna do with now. All nba live has to do is what 2k did that made them better which was not be too realistic bc the game being realistic inherently kills the stick skill gap of the game. (2k devs alr explained this ) if live recreates 2k16 and build frm they’re 2k will be done for. Fax

  • @knewbikajanja-lf8yh
    @knewbikajanja-lf8yh Před měsícem +4

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🥶🥶

  • @bobheyotue9850
    @bobheyotue9850 Před 23 dny

    What happened to the old days when developers didn’t get rights to certain entities and still decided to make the game. NBA live 24 could’ve easily been a streetball game where they just acknowledge the real life legends of the game. It could’ve been free as a test run to what they want nba live to be.

  • @angelbekillinburner
    @angelbekillinburner Před 20 dny

    if NBA LIVE doesnt come out for 2025 it will be 6 going on 7 years that they dont release a game, i think it would be time to throw in the towel

  • @dfw.6ix748
    @dfw.6ix748 Před 18 dny

    Ngl nba live would save the gaming basketball community

  • @younggarrett93
    @younggarrett93 Před měsícem +1

    Yeah i had 72 win Percentage and still quit the game several months ago. 2k is just disrespectful with their vc prices and trash gameplay. I'd buy Live in a heartbeat.

  • @6godDQ
    @6godDQ Před měsícem +10

    Badgeplug the goat🔥

  • @Eazyyyyyyyy123
    @Eazyyyyyyyy123 Před 4 dny

    Tbh I would love for nba live to come back but I honestly feel like if they were not being as money hungry as 2k the fans would shit on them saying that they are just playing nice even though they asked for something different

  • @bigboss_pdb8037
    @bigboss_pdb8037 Před měsícem +2

    Fire

  • @yaboy_kw6820
    @yaboy_kw6820 Před měsícem

    The my team thing so true I’d actually play my team if I didn’t have to spend 10s of thousands just to compete

  • @dpain951
    @dpain951 Před 18 dny

    Bring back NBA, NFL streets and def jam to

  • @LockDowneyJr
    @LockDowneyJr Před měsícem

    If they’ve been working on NBA Live for years and it doesn’t have a dunk contest mode, I’m getting my money back 😭

  • @taedavis1464
    @taedavis1464 Před měsícem

    I been waiting on this day!

  • @lidb2
    @lidb2 Před 28 dny

    When yu get more news about nba live 25 drop it asap!

  • @410dribble.disciple6
    @410dribble.disciple6 Před měsícem

    As a member of 2k MyTeam community (unfortunately) I would def be coppin live outta despite regardless

  • @gmann2865
    @gmann2865 Před měsícem

    Man I hope it’s true and hope it’s at least decent cuz then 2K will have to change their ways to compete

  • @terrytaylor1928
    @terrytaylor1928 Před měsícem

    I do miss nba lives games but ill believe it when i see it.

  • @timothyburnett770
    @timothyburnett770 Před měsícem

    I think if NBA Live drops a great game, 2k takes a break next year to fix their issues or they go out of business

  • @dollasignsully
    @dollasignsully Před měsícem +3

    Plz yo. been playing nba live 19 and its actually pretty fun.

  • @samgibson7024
    @samgibson7024 Před měsícem +1

    EA should do an NCAA basketball game. Or I'd love to see them do something similar to fifa, where they have leagues from all over the world, would be cool having a basketball game that features European leagues, the nbl in Australia, the Chinese league ex nba players all go to.

  • @sparenone
    @sparenone Před měsícem

    If it’s true when they say HISTOR REPEATS ITSELF for the fact every 5yrs we get a decent 2k. As in 2k15 & 2k20 I believe wether it’s NBA Live or just 2k in general it’ll be a good game no doubt💯

  • @TheGrimFiend
    @TheGrimFiend Před měsícem

    Nba live will never get off bro.. we had the same videos few years ago too and it still failed

  • @LxkeBeHim
    @LxkeBeHim Před měsícem +4

    Yurrr

  • @emperorblkfox5956
    @emperorblkfox5956 Před měsícem +1

    Cool and all, just hope this time when it drops, all y’all stream and make content and give them feedback like yall do for 2k and. Not wait 3-4 years after launch to say that the game isn’t bad (respectfully)