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NEW Castle Cobra 10 Is The ULTIMATE 1/10 Scale RC ESC! Should You Buy?
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- Let's take a deep dive in to the Castle Creations Cobra 10 1/10 scale basher crawler ESC! Is this the right ESC For your Arrma, Traxxas, Team Corally, or Redcat? Let's find out!
as usual great video,,,and videos that I enjoy the most are when you do the tear down of the RCs
There will be plenty more of those coming!
Love your contents and how you present them.
Thanks Glad you enjoy!
Love the channel, im somewhat new but watch anything new you post so keep it up.
Thanks will do!
Yeah that was a great video. I love these videos they really help anyone looking to work on or upgrade there rc’s.
Awesome glad you enjoyed it!
Love the detailed videos. I'd like to see some crawling videos at the 1/24 scale. AX24 is epic
I just did a review of the FCX 24m. Did you see that?
Wow. That reverse lockout it really cool. Wish more would have that. Makes for a great middle ground between blinky mode and just bashing around. Gives a scale feel.
Yeah it definitely changes the feel of the ESC.
I appreciate the videos where you tear things to the bone the most. I don't trust my mechanic skills, fascinating to see the quality of vehicle innards.
I'd recommend digging into them yourself. There's a lot going on but ultimately they aren't terribly complicated and as long as you take your time stay organized and take lots of pictures or video you'll be fine.
Always been a Hobbywing Fan, but the advanced features of Castle are really amazing.
They do tend to stay on the cutting edge feature wise.
The content on your channel is great, just keep on doing what you are doing 👌
You guys keep watching I'll keep recording!
More give always! lol nah man your videos are perfect! Still hoping to get a feature some day! Let me build you some new custom ramps!
I'm not opposed to that. Did we speak via email?
Well, this doesn't look like a super upgrade to me. I was trying to use my mamba x in a crawler. in 2024 this is a very inconvenient esc. You need to seal a bunch of connectors, the power button is terrible, the touch wire is from the 2000s. The situation is absolutely exactly the same here...Castle did not update the design of the sensor wire (as Hobbying did), the old fans and the power button, oh.. but it looks good in appearance. However, the issue of price is very ambiguous for me; there are competitors on the market that are more convenient to use, IMO...
Anyway, thank you for the review! Love your videos;)
What do you mean by touch wire?
@DoRC oh, sorry, sensor wire i mean) very thin, non waterproof, very old design that should be upgraded
I love the teardown and build videos the most. The bashing videos are cool, but I found that I already know how to break my Rc's Lol
Well that's what I love to do too so they'll be plenty more to come!
Enough power to pull itself apart!!
It's definitely pretty powerful!
Great tips. Thanks for another awesome video.
Thanks for watching :-)
Great videos all the time 👍
Thanks :-)
Nice esc! But way too expensive for me. Id rather go with a max10 sct. That goes up to 4s, but that's plenty for a 1:10 vehicle.
Regarding your content: you already do what i enjoy most. Technical teardowns and presentation of new electronics. Im not that kind of guy who watches driving action except for analysing which crash caused what damage.
You're definitely among my favourites!
I wouldn’t recommend the old act but definitely recommend the g2 140a
Sct*
Yeah the G2 definitely is good!
Thanks Glad you enjoy :-) I like to put bashing into because I enjoy doing it and enjoy editing it but the technical side is what I like the most.
The reverse to forward brake has been a feature on traxxas escs for a very long time. Since the first vxl 6s at least. It’s one of the things I hate the most about HW escs. Of my bashers 4/6 still use VXLs because of that feature. Also the much better LVC warning. HW escs don’t provide nearly enough warning for me.
Yeah they do have it but it's not adjustable which I think is a really big benefit of this ESC. Pretty much all of the features on it are customizable and I'm finding I appreciate that more and more.
Have you turned up the LVC on your hobbywing ESCs?
Are you guys talking about braking when driving forward and when reaching almost a standstill the ESC just changes into reverse? I see this behaviour on my little 16BL30 from HW and it annoys me a ton. I feel I cannot get used to it :-(
@@FrifjellDrivesRC no. This is referring to when you're in reverse and you hit forward some ESCs will just immediately go into forward instead of initiating a braking sequence like it does in reverse.
It sounds like you don't have forward reverse brake turned on with your 16BL30. I believe with forward reverse brakes selected any of the hobbywing ESCs should just come to a stop when you hit the brakes instead of immediately going into reverse.
It's definitely NOT the same as what's in the Traxxas ESCs. From what I'm understanding, with the Cobra10, is programmable...the Traxxas is not. The best comparison I can think of would be the ESCs in the Kyosho Mini-Z MR-03 EVO & MR-04 EVO, both of which have a programmable "time out" between reverse & forward.
@@ninthislandrc Yes both the reverse to forward brake strength is programmable and the delay between automatic direction changes programmable. Between those two things it really can dramatically affect how the ESC feels.
I've pulled 205 amps on a Mamba X ESC. I wonder what Cobra 10s are capable of.. can't wait to get one!
Let me know what you end up pulling on it!
@@DoRC will do!
That was a great video👌 Thank you😊
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
I think this esc will be the go to for 10th scale speedrun car, and knowing Castle and their mosfets, I'm sure it can handle most of the 40 series tp power motors.
Yeah it seems pretty stout! I was surprised at how much power it had on 6S in the Synchro and how hot it didn't get.
Good showcase of the esc!
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
The old SW3 was my first brushless combo. I think that esc and motor ended up lasting me a decade, and I was a dumb 14yo so I overheated the hell out of it I’m sure. I’d like to keep using castle but they have gotten extremely expensive and their sidewinder series is very outdated. The sw4 is a mere 5v2A bec. Even the vxl 3s has better specs than that
Yeah they definitely do well on features innovation and reliability but you really pay the price for it.
Confused why they stop the BEC at 8.0v , isn’t the standard for HV 8.4? Half a volt makes a big difference with HV servos
I'm not sure but I will say that the current capability of the BEC is almost just as important as the voltage and the BECs in the castle ESCs are pretty powerful. I've never really missed the extra half volt. Also keep in mind that 8 volts to 8.4 volts is only a 5% difference.
@@DoRCgood point on the 5% and the amps, but I get the original argument. Like why? The question is why? lol, it must’ve been a part that they saved a fortune on.
Just got the answer straight from the man. In order to maintain 5 volt compatibility they switching power supply that they use is limited to 8 volts maximum. They also said that above 8 volts servos can start pulling a lot of current exceeding the eight amp limit of the BEC.
@@DoRC this is why I love you dude. No homo.
Unless you want it to be 🤫
@@DoRC oh so they limited to prevent brown outs? i guess i'll give them that for quality sake but, i mean just upgrade the BEC amperage...
Interesting that it’s 6s! When you started talking about using an xt90 around the 2 minute mark, it reminded me to ask you for some advice on what connectors to use depending on the amount of cells and amps. I want to to switch to a single type of connector on all my cars, and I was thinking I might use IC5 and EC5 on all my vehicles 1/10 and 1/8, because those are relatively good plugs and it would mean I don’t have to void Horizon warranties. Then, I would use xt60s on everything sub 1/10 scale. I’m only worried that since I’m running 3s and 60a+ escs on the smaller cars, a 60a connector might prevent me from getting all the power available. Thoughts?
As long as the ESC is around 60 amps running an XT60 probably isn't going to be a problem as they can definitely handle higher burst current and it's very unlikely that you'd be pulling the full 60 amps all the time anyway.
The fan connection is not proprietary to Castle. It's a JST-XH and is very common in 3.7v applications.
By proprietary I mean a connection that no other manufacturer in the hobby uses for fans. If you buy any other fan it's not going to have that connector on it.
That being said I did technically use the wrong term. I should have said unique to Castle in the hobby.
I would like to see a second video after a while of owning and bashing on this esc with one of their sensored motors if possible to see what it dose in the long run it looks like a good esc for my xxl arrma build rn I have a 6s spektrum system in it the 140 ez run combo from hw I had in it felt slow and underpowered
I would also absolutely buy this from you if you would sell it to me seeing it’s 6s capable that would be perfect
If you thought the 140 amp combo was underpowered I would recommend getting the Cobra 8 instead of this.
I appreciate the offer but I always keep a hold of my electronics. Never know when you're going to need them
@@DoRC let me rephrase lol the motor felt underpowered and didn’t like how hot it got the esc did good stayed cool but I like castles 8v bec I run the raw 500 in it and love the power on 7.4-8v but hw again felt weak to me and understandable lol I do have a 160 I could throw in it but this 150 on 4s with some mod one gearing and speed gearing is dummy fast lol
@@AnthraxxRc Yeah I understand. I just think that if you're currently running a 150 amp 6s ESC this ESC would be a downgrade. This is 6S capable but it's really primarily a 4S 1/10 scale ESC.
@@DoRC with the 6s combo is running how I want on 4s cause I plan on running it on 4s unless it takes 6s then I’ll move up lol but primarily a 4s build I just want to know how it would pair with like the 1520 series castle motor I feel it would be a perfect combo for the xxl 4s trucks also my bad if I didn’t mention its a 4s chassis not a 6s chassis just xxl cause its bigger than the previous 3&4s chassis
I prefer Hobbywing there so much easier to program but good review
I do wish that Castle would at least give us a dedicated connector to program with so we didn't have to pull the connection off the receiver every time. I know they have the Bluetooth link but eh...
Hobby wing is worrying me a little bit these days with the removal of any way to program their ESCs other than Bluetooth. I've had some problems with their software in the past and with the Max 6G2 and now the max 8G2S if you can't program it via Bluetooth you can't program it.
@@DoRC I wasn’t aware of that hopefully they get it resolved that’s the reason I like Hobbywing is it’s easier to program
Wanted to upgrade system on Mojave 4s how good will these b.
It would probably work though The Mojave is a pretty heavy truck and you might want to go with a 1/8 scale ESC for it if you're going to spend the money to upgrade.
Project ideas? Do you have or want a SCX6? I've got the Proline Coyote and Superduty body for mine and am trying to make the Outcast 8s EXB backflips fit it. I've ordered Stupid RC 30mm spacers but need to adapt them to 24mm. I sent an email to Stupid RC to see about having a custom set made in 24mm but haven't heard back. I also think it'd be different to make a world's fastest SCX6. I've never seen anyone try to make one go fast, for good reason i assume, lol. That's my most out of the box project ideas. Unfortunately i only have enough time to order parts for my ideas but not enough to actually accomplish them.
Sounds like a fun project though unfortunately if I make a video about something that isn't new it's almost guaranteed to do poorly.
Dang it man… I just put a cobra 8 in my TLR Typhon… looks like the 10 is the way to go… well wait. It’s really just the size I think. That’s really the only difference… right?
No the Cobra 8 is definitely going to be a more powerful ESC.
I really want to get this for my slash 4x4 ultimate. Do you know when this new esc is gonna come out?
As far as I know it's out now. Check the Castle creations website
@@DoRC ok thx
I'll stick with Hobbywing, they do everything I need them to do.! 😉
And for many people that's going to be the case. Hobby Wing has the budget side of things completely locked down. There are some features in these ESCs that hobbywing does not have a compatible option for and personally I think that Castle ESCs are made better but they certainly are more expensive.
This esc is meant for crawlers, hw makes 2in1 that's 1200kv $69 & 1800kv $79. Either hw or hh v3 for me.
@@TrokaRC I have a Hobbywing Fusion SE 1800kv & it's pretty impressive.!
The FOC literally blew my mind 😲🤯.!!
I couldn't believe the low speed control, even having it geared quite high for more top speed.
I'm currently using it in my RGT Toyota Land Cruiser, it's stuck in 2nd gear but it still crawls beautifully.!
I just wish it had more tunability because the power delivery is quite sharp, I'd like it to be smoother.
@@alantaylor353 2in1 no esc all for $80 or less. Foc is game changer.
Nah, the Hobbuwing 10BL120 G2 is 50 bucks and can handle 4s.
I love the castle stuff but it's more for pros IMO (all the tuning features) but for my bashers I'll likely stick with the half priced ESC.
That's completely understandable. You really either have to have a specific reason to want Castle supporting a US-based company or really want the fancy features to justify the cost of this.
@@DoRC ahhhhh made in USA?
Now I understand why castle is more pricey
I have to have it
Should be available now.
I never understood esc BEC settings… how do you use it without burning out receivers?
It just depends on the capabilities of the receiver. Most modern receivers are good up to at least 9 volts so pretty much any BEC setting you want but there are some exceptions. The Traxxas receivers are only guaranteed to 6 volts and I'm sure there are others that are limited.
@@DoRC how do you know before buying? I never see any voltage capability listings or hv classification
I wish they bought this out before I bought my copperhead 10 🤦
I'd say it depends on the application. The copperhead 10 is great for smaller 1/10 scale vehicles and is not going to be replaced by this. This is replacing the Mamba x.
Castle esc’s are great but for the price you could get a hobbywing 1/10 scale motor with a 1/8esc for a similar price for me it would be very difficult to justify the price of the castle esc
Yeah they are definitely expensive!
There is no way they about to release a new model… I literally just installed a cobra 8 for my granite yes i know supper over kill. Only reason I did it because I wanted to have more run time on 4s. My Copperhead Combo kept on over heating and was making me frustrating. Now I don’t know what to do. Now both cobra 8 and 10 can do 6s too.
Well the Cobra 8 will definitely never overheat in the granite! Fortunately if you decide to switch you can just pull the cable out of the ESC and swap it over as they are the same. That'll save you some wiring.
@@DoRC Cobra 10 it is. Love the content sir! Keep it uppp! 🔥
I think you have piqued the interest of many on how to program the receiver for all the channels.
Ugh. The flysky G7P is not a programming friendly transmitter. To be perfectly honest I got halfway through with it and quit.
@@DoRC I can do it on a CT5 in twenty minutes. What did you use?
@@AllInRc1971 G7P. The program itself isn't bad it's just the interface itself is maddeningly counterintuitive. I've had the transmitter for at least 6 months now probably even longer and I still can't get used to it.
Will it fit in the Mojave Grom!?
Ehhh. Maybe but that would be some serious overkill.
@@DoRCyou misspelled barely adequate.
Lol:)
does it have the same future as fusion from hobbywing?
I don't think it has direct FOC control but to be honest with you I'm not that familiar with what FOC is so I could be wrong about that.
@@DoRC automatic torque increase for obsticals when you keep the trigger at the same place but it does keep the same speed so far i know
so the power increase is handled by the esc not the driver
Comparison to max10 and 10bl120 in terms of power when? Lol
It's really hard to do a comparison like that without some sort of dyno. There are just way too many variables involved.
$180.........😂 😂 😂 😂
There's no denying it's expensive.
Not good for crawlers, im a noob and can see this not working for me. Why you ask? 2in1 is the future honestly. Good luck with the crawler community.
Maybe though this has been tested by quite a few different crawlers and anything to like it.
No, i shouldn't buy it: I can't put another mortgage on my house.
They definitely aren't cheap.
$10 MORE, and objectively inferior to a Mamba X? No thanks.
No telemetry with the Cobra 10, heavier than a Mamba X, not ROAR certified (if that matters to you) smaller fan than a Mamba X… I’d rather a Mamba X 10 times out of 10
When you say no telemetry what exactly are you referring to?
As far as the smaller fan these things are really efficient and it's really all the fan it needs. I did a full pack of bashing in grass in a buggy that was too heavy on 6S and it only reached about 156° f.
@@DoRC castle telemetry is accessed through Spektrum XBus (need a dx5 of some kind with a SR6100 receiver) or Futaba SBus (never tried it)
Admittedly there are a few slick features that I like. Mounting screw holes on the underside is clutch. Hill Hold for crawling is HUGE though so I’ll give it that.
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe oh ok. Yeah I looked it up after asking I wasn't even aware of that existed. I'm sure they will come up with a 32-bit version of the same type of connection at some point. That's not really a shortcoming of the ESC that's just an incompatibility between the new 32-bit systems and their previous 8-bit telemetry setup.
Overall I think this is a pretty solid update and yeah the hill hold thing is pretty neat!
@@DoRC the XBus stuff is super neat but admittedly quite expensive to get the harness. It’ll give you real time motor speed, motor temp, amp draw, XYZ accelerometer data, G forces, battery voltage, ESC temp, all sorts of stuff.
How much does that matter? Eh, probably to 3 people. I hardly use it anymore either, I spend more time with my eyes on my truck and surroundings, and never on the radio screen, especially for real time data.