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- The head of the Army has said Britain should “train and equip” a “citizen army” to ready the country for a potential land war.
But General Sir Patrick Sanders, the outgoing Chief of the General Staff (CGS), said even that would be “not enough” as he pointed to allies in eastern and northern Europe “laying the foundations for national mobilisation”.
In a speech on Wednesday, the military top brass said increasing Army numbers in preparation for a potential conflict would need to be a “whole-of-nation undertaking”.
The comments, first reported by the Daily Telegraph, are being read as a warning that British men and women should be ready for a call-up to the armed forces if Nato goes to war with Russia.
Best of luck with that, no ones laying down their lives for unelected foreign leaders.
Dam right!!!🙏👌👍
Definitely not laying down my life for these corrupt psycho politicians and billionaires and I urge all working class people to not enlist. Diplomacy with competent politicians is how we avoid war
@@honeybadger9425 If an opposing nation went pubic and declared us dead, yes. If we're told it was a terrorist attack from a group linked to whoeveristhis.... No.
@@honeybadger9425probably not, Gen Z’ers need their PS5’s and onesies, getting their hands dirty doesn’t fit their pronoun based reality
@@IamDude2 Not all of Gen Z are like that
I'm not fighting for these corrupt politicians
Corrupt Politicians!!!! SURELY NOT ?
You said
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But you'd fight against a Russian invasion?
@@theincrement4898 russian bot 🤣
@theincrement4898 okay, woke bot
I served in Afghanistan. I won't fight for men in suits who've never tasted war. Who's war are we fighting?
What was it like serving in Afghanistan? do you have any regrets?
'Whose' not 'Who's'.
Anglo American capital
Respect but since you said you wont fight for men in suits , may I ask what you were doing in Afghanistan in the first place ? Its alright , you were young, plucky and itching for a bit of adventure and escape an otherwise boring humdrum existence on the home front . An associate of mine , former gunnery sergeant of the Scotts guards said , one of the reasons he joined was he wanted to break out of forking out an existence in a meat processing plant, so he joined up for 12 years .
@@maxb9315 they should send you to Ukraine first, they like nazis, even grammer ones
We lost our country, nothing to fight for anymore....
Communist demoralization complete.
The silent invasion has be happening for ages now we would just be defending ourselfs
What if Russia tries to invade the UK? Not going to fight for your home, friends, and family?
That's what people get when they vote for right wing pro-capitalist parties that have spent the best part of 40+ years ruining the country, gutting it within an inch of its life & asset stripping it til there's nothing remaining.
When the populace work out that these parties arent for the working class people of this land, then some change may occur.
You lost it to what?
Let the royals and aristocrats and politicians and the beaurocrats go and let them send their sons and grandsons. These are their wars, not ours.
Spot on
They do send their children to the army.
Not every last one but they do.
100% no one actually wants this stupid war that the media are talking up….. makes great news though, and will be good for foreign big business interests…….mmm
The recently passed Prince Phillip served in WW2 in the Mediterranean, Charles served in the navy, Andrew served in the RAF, Edward was a Royal Marine for three years. Harry went to Afghanistan and William was a home RAF S&R pilot.
33 sitting MPs have served themselves. If a foreign enemy deigns to invade. YOUR children are in danger as much as theirs.
That's exactly what I say
Put the politicians on the front line, who would have most likely got us into the mess with the way the world is going. Greed!
Imagine kings,Barons,counts,lords etc still lead the armies onto the battlefield
our corrupt politicians invaded ukraine then
Good luck with that they will be in their underground bunkers
And "ALL The damn_Royals!!"??
They're too busy taxing our wages when we're alive, then taxing it even more when we dead 😂
I love how "the army is too small" is basically just a reworded way of saying "we made that many cuts to defence, to cover our own mistakes that were fucked and need you to fight"
Even corrupt UK government know brits would tell them to get fked of they tried to do this 😂
Fight for who? No one is patriotic anymore and it's your fault. So either pay 200k a year or forget it.
It's not because of patriotism you wally, but because these wars are for the super rich of the world and everyone knows it now. So why go to war for those that hate you and want to oppress you.
Exactly, fills the country with people who hate the country and native people, give them better life's then expect us to defend it
Patriotism is for suckers. Patriotism means being loyal to your government, nationalism means being loyal to your people. And the problem with nationalism is your nation is not even loyal to you. So I am for myself and people who care about me, not for people who don't care about me.
According to the government and the MSM, Nationalism and Patriotism is 'far-right & racist' so surely it would be 'far-right & racist' to want to defend this country....right?
Import army of fighting age men, send our own fighting age men to meat grinder…🤔 What could go wrong?
Underrated comment.
💯 Spot on! 👌🏼
Mmmmm Grindr
@@winstoningram99 Hop along tae the clansman, yap rick 😁
I would rather hide my children than allow them to be enlisted.
If your children are adults then it would be up to them.
Parents treating their adult children like “kids” is one of the problems this country faces.
@@comicsshed5381and compared to politicians waging war for billionaires to profit from is not a problem in your lil head !? You send your kids to die and let’s see how proud a parent you are 🤦
@@timwoodger7896what would you do if your country gets attacked and invaded by another country? Sit in your house and bury your head saying not your war?
@@Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da if we all said no! The people that start all this shite would make a peace deal.
But hey the world is so simple in your lil head init 🤦. No soldiers no war.
Putin would sign a peace deal at the drop of a hat but hey you keep believing the narrative and good luck fighting their war.
@@Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_daCan't see Russia invading Britain too full 😅
I will never risk my life for this country. Not a chance.
Because fundamentally you are a coward with no loyalty to the land that made you and lack the mental fortitude to fight to defend your family, your friends, your town and the society that has nurtured you into adulthood.
@AlcatrazUKgood luck with that. If the uk were in armed conflict with Russia it would be just a bit difficult to find a European country not involved. Maybe Switzerland.
@AlcatrazUK very good. Makes no difference to me. Why not leave today?
Load of nonsense 😂
@AlcatrazUKDitto! I'd go with you!
A major difference between now and the last conscription is that then people actually liked the country and wanted to defend it, now nobody/very few would fight and die for England because its abandoned the majority, they cant put everyone in prison if millions decided to reject some form of conscription so good luck with that if it ever happened.
Not all immigrants are bad or anti British, I’m from Ethiopia and I have been here for 10 years now and I would never ever join the army, unless we are invaded. Why would I fight some third world country. If a war breaks out, say with France, of course I will fight for England but absolutely not some poor country in the Middle East or Asia.
Reolensk. So right. The people of UK have been abandoned by their gvt. Why the hell should they fight for them 🥴!?
@@joesnow8834If you think a war between Britain and France is even a remote possibility then you really need to bring yourself up to speed on World events since the nineteenth century.
@@joesnow8834 only you brought up immigrants
I@@georgemorley1029I think you need to re read what he said. He said let's say England France. Let's say is the biggest clue here
“You depend on our protection
Yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth”
Excellent comment. 🤝
Everybody's going to the party
Have a reeeeeal good time
@@ethericrose2307 It's a system of a down lyric....
I would rather rot in a cell than fight for this govt
It's a bit toxic masculinity isn't it? Fighting and all that
Shut up you melt
Send in the woke brigade 🎉
😂
So you’d just lie down if someone started attacking you ? With men like you the UKs Fkd.
tell that to people who fought in ww2 and those who died on dday
If Brit’s have to go, will your immigrants have to go too?
Everyone maybe, but you have to be English
If you called them up, there would be an armada of boats leaving this country. Perhaps, this is the way to go to stop them coming over.
@@user-mc1yd9bp5x no you don’t have to be English you absolute cabbage.
They will do a runner to the airports
That’s not the plan.
How about the goverments have a fight instead
Does that mean all the refugees too?
No different case?
Now thats a very bad idea@@planetKumar
War will give the government the excuse to bring in even more freeloaders
Their first .. as they will be fighting against us internally
Yes they go first
Imagine fighting for US interest. No chance id rather go Prison
Not dying for a government that hates me
Do one , get the foreigners to show there allegiance, the ones you put first before the English .. you don’t fight for me .. I don’t fight for you .
Well said boss. They dont fight for us and we will surely not fight for them.
So, for over a year, the narrative has been that Russia is struggling against Ukraine.
Yet NATO needs the worlds civilian population to fight them?
Both cant be true 😂
Are you NATO countries citizen? If yes then yes you would need to go to army if they do conscription!
Of course both can be true lol Dafuq are you talking about.
Ya think thats funny? Av ya seen the video of Zelensky talking about ...not even the worlds army could defeat the Russians!!
I think it's called gaslighting. After lockdown people started to realise that governments need to induce fear - hence climate alarmism, covid, for example - in order to control them. Government sees the pushback so thanks to the Ukraine conflict the latest fear is WW 3.
True I've said for years now we need out of tge NATO cowards gang .I've served Nato and the UN peacekeeping. Time to save ourselves
Usual fear mongering
Nope. Fearmongering is when their target is portrayed as a threat. This is saying that they should force civilians into war. Fearmongering about conscription has no political benefit. For them however, conscription has.
would have fought for England once but this is'nt England anymore
Should be a lot of new jobs created considering all the new prisons the UK is going to need when the majority declines
If the draft were brought back I'd quite happily take prison time instead of fighting for this dump.
I though Ukraine was winning the war, all the news I see is that this russian jet was taken down, this russian tanks were taken down, Russia is struggling blablabla. What happened to this beautiful narrative?
Ukraine are loosing. The videos you see are called propaganda
Its fake news russia is winning and that is something the matrix system does not want us to know and now they are shitting there selves
A fairytale.
We've already been divided, by race, sex and nationality. The majority are here to feed from our land, not to defend it.
Well put. No loyalty to the UK
A land full of foreigners that hate the native people, while also using their country to benefit their life😂
Amazing how you're blissfully avoiding the class question, which all society is based upon.
Fash never understand class consciousness, it's as if they cant work out there's always a class war in this country 🫤 and prefer to focus on immigration, as if that's the root cause of all the ills in society 😂
@@jenniferparry8709
I'm entitled to my own Nation Independent of the UK.
You are wrong alot of immigrants came because of wars caused by west
World war 1 civilian deaths 10% world war 2 civillian deaths 50% vietnam civillian deaths 70% iraq war civillian deaths 90% there's a pattern going on here.
I for one won't be sacrificed to their Great Reset. If Bill and Klaus want me dead they'll have to come do the job themselves.
The Great Reset was a plan to fix things in the global economy during lockdown given everything was shut down, as it seemed like a good time to do so. Kind of like fixing potholes in a road when the road's closed. Now all that's over it's not happening. You can put that particular conspiracy theory away.
Agreed 💯
They can't arrest or kill all of us. Too many of us have caught on to their plan
Back in the olden days, patriots actually believed that they were fighting for the greater good! Nowadays (due to all the positive progress 😂) people understand that we are just being used to fight; to keep the rich, richer! One just has to look at the state of our veteran, pathetic!
recruit the migrants , let them prove their loyalty to the UK on the battlefield
That was always the plan.
Equal rights feminists - time to step up
May have escaped your attention, but women already fight in frontline roles in the army
@@Heresy1987 the exception isn't the rule
@@selvamani1973-p7b that doesnt make any sense.
People will fight for something if they believe in what they are doing or if it's a just cause.
Some twatty army general who detests working class cannon fodder isnt enough to convince anyone we should all get ready to lay our lives lives on the line for Blighty, irrespective of whether someone takes a position on feminism or not.
Ive zero problem anyone training in the use of firearms. I just think by and large they are generally aimed at the wrong people.
Medals for "them", coffins for "us".
@@selvamani1973-p7b 16,000 active female service members isn't an "exception"
@@Heresy1987He’s saying despite that there should still be equality in conscription.
When I applied for tfl I was told they were only accepting ethnic minorities, when I applied for the fire brigade I was told the same thing … I’ll let them take this one as well I think
Somehow I don't think it works that way...tfl does not equal the British army 😂
@@user-em4dx6sg7y How does it work then ?
@@user-em4dx6sg7y I think the point OP is making is that it shouldn't work like that anywhere but unfortunately it does. So, sure, let's apply that logic to conscription 😄 there's not enough ethnic minorities on the military so let them be conscripted first! That's what white people have been told about numerous places for the passed twenty years, so let's apply to the military!
@@coolperson962 your desire for ethnic minorities is not the reality. Reality is the conscripts majority will come from the white indigenous British population.
I suspect a lot of ethnics will jump ship of forced to join
. I sympathise with your view but what makes you believe the ethnic minorities will be rushing to defend the UK?
Yeah im not fighting for Israels corses
Shame they couldn't find an Englishman to ask
How about leaders go fight for their country
Austerity and endless war.
When did that become a cause worth fighting for?
No way! Would I or would I let my son sign up. Not for a totally preventable war. For who? To fight against which enemies? Ordinary people are not our enemies. Wake up people only Love is the answer to our problems, not war.
Exactly 💯
Ditto
Let my son fight for the filth in Westminster? Never.
Hell no
🤣🤣🤣🤣 sorry the number you've called is not available
LOL.
Both my family & my wife's Scots family have a decent record in serving with our Island's armed forces dating back to the 19th century. The is not 1 male member of our family , while I am alive , who will ever join up and fight a war because politics failed. Those days are long gone and we have seen the legacy of so much sacrifice others gave being eroded by those who care nothing of how much was given so our Island could live in peace.
Scotland has been completely failed and neglected by the UK State as Scotland still doesn't have its own national defence force.
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Spot on ❤
@@RevealedFilmsclearly someone with no emotional intelligence whatsoever who has no clue about the horrors of war. Anyone mentally stable who knows what it entails doesn’t want to fight and its that simple.
Your just a standard ignorant anti English racist who I have met and listened to a thousands times over in 40yrs. The only people who have failed you is the SNP and your own failure to wipe the blue paint out your eyes that makes you think your a freedom fighter when your drunk. Your part of United Kingdom and the is a national armed force. Your not a Independent country. But the is a Scottish Lord who is the only person in the UK allowed to keep a private army. And as for neglect ? 🤣😅 Scotland has been receiving more in UK GDP % for over 30yrs than any other region of the United Kingdom. You want neglect, the go see why Sturgeon has stolen so much money & deleted all her phone messages... But like most of you Scots, it won't matter as your racism just blinds you. @@ScottishRoss27
Yeah, I'm not killing another human being for a government I don't really care for.
I'm sure our ruling class can fight its own battles.
Count me out.
I will not die for Israel
Nor Ukraine.
Me either. Don't like either of those countries. Especially the ones doing the genocide
@@winstoningram99 that is both of them, well Ukraine have stopped doing Genocide now because Russia made them!
Nor Palestine
The benefits office and the NHS print literature how to work the system in 28 different languages I’m sure the call for volunteers will be in one language
And the prison service! Don't forget the prison service!
I'm 62 not in the best health heart wise, but I'd stand up to defend the line, not for those scumbags in parliament or Buckingham palace but for my grand children.
Don’t panic! Don’t panic! Captain Mainwaring!!
Agreed
Unless it comes to my own back yard, I'm not fighting someone else's war
If the line was at Calais maybe but how is going all the way over to Ukraine defending our country?
There is NO way Russia would be foolish enough to start war with NATO and allies.
If people are here on U.K. soil with guns then yeah I'll pitch in.
The Quaker's meeting houses would be absolutely packed with conscientious objectors.
Only trouble is if we implemented a "every fighting age male to be conscripted" policy - we could all just identify as women.
Hahahahha bants - nice one 😂😂
Your comment is utterly absurd....yet it's the actually true.
Ha
I’m not fighting. It’s different if the country is being invaded, but I’m not going overseas. I’m told how people like myself are the bane of society and the world over, but are then happy to use me in the meat grinder. No thanks.
Scary that this is true
Send the politicians first and the rich. They caused all of this.
But my fragile sometimes toxic "Masculinity" coupled with my patriarchal tendencies would surely make me non compatible and a possible danger to such an army.
Literally who's saying that?
its a joke @@dmaxwell910901
Im too old for a call up ( unless its really bad) but no would i let my son go. Not happing. Not for nato and wef .
I think the loyalty to this nation died, when we had to watch our loved ones die through a window, whilst politicians partied.
Spot on
Or when millions of young men lost their business's and jobs to be given 360 quid a month and called a scrounger!
Died in 1979 when Maggie got in and the transfer of wealth to the rich started !
If UK surrenders to Russia right now- income tax goes down to 18% and diesel will halve in price - I vote- surrender
LOL.
What would we be fighting for ? Our people are suffering under current leaders and their shitty policies.
Fight for a king I don't support and a government that couldn't care less about the British people?
Pass.
I'd like to see the sons and daughters of the politicians leading the way....then I'll have no excuse.
Yes, let them proudly lead the way.
Can we speak about how it feels like we’re being geared up for the announcements of war
Dinghy pirates first! Bet they’d soon go home.
Never
Ur have too shoot me in the head
People are totally aware of being manipulated and it shows in the massive response to this 'story'. I get the impression that those in charge are shocked at the response of the vast majority of the public. We don't want war and we are not going to fight. Sensible thinking really.
Who wants to fight for this it's not England no more
Englandstan
🤣fight for our governments awful decisions… no thank you! War = Profit where there is war there is money to be made…
That sir would be a crime the ruling class are making it impossible to live at any reasonable level in the UK it's only in resent years that veterans have been shown any respect from a country who left them to rot in squalid conditions those who pay tax in this country are mainly working class whilst much of the wealth created within it is squirrels into offshore accounts avoiding any tax whatsoever
Everybody in the country pays tax you fool, all shop items are TAXED.
I wouldn’t want my son to die for that corrupt bunch of privateers in government they can sod right off
Already served thanks ill pass now
I even tried to re-enlist but was denied. Don’t bother come a knocking if it all kicks off.
Defensive war yes. Offensive war no.
But the U.K. public aren’t allowed to have offensive weapons, what would we be expected to use…Ice cold politeness, sarcasm and dry wit?
We’ll never forget the Biden years that’s for sure.
True - AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY.
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Bet Biden's forgotten them already, the senile old clown
Do one 😂 not fighting in a rich man's war, no chance send in the woke brigade
The very fact that you used the term “woke brigade “ tells us that the rich men already control how you think
@@mrennie5158 lol why ya woke are you, joker
@@TheTekraverDefinitely 👍. My knuckles stay well clear of the ground when I walk around 😄
@@mrennie5158
What about all those who fly the Ukraine flag..i mean surely they'd want to help out?
...or are they just virtue signalling tossers?
@@nelliedownsouth2316 what do you mean by those who “fly the Ukrainian flag ?”
Are they (you?) here in the UK or in Ukraine, does it fly from their houses, their cars, do they walk around with the colours visible somewhere? Also, what do you think you mean by “help out “ - do you know what these politicians Grant Shapps and Tobias Elwood are talking about us having to do, potentially?
What do you think you mean by the term “virtue signalling” in this context?
So many questions prompted by your strange reply.
Couple hundred thousand fighting age men arriving every year. Give them a chance
They’ll prob say “you’ve already given us a chance and out done yourselves, we can’t accept anymore chances” 😂
Want to increase the size of the British Army. How about making it law that people emigrating and seeking asylum to the UK as to do a year or more training in the Army.
Some at work say they are already going to canada.
i suspect the government will face a reprise of 1970's America, when young men simply refused the draft for the Vietnam war. What will the government do - put refuseniks in prison...?
Wouldn't fight for this government the way they've treated people the last 5-10 and how ex military are homeless mental health ans forgotten about no chance and will not fight for the royal family
I'd rather be, "speaking german". Or russian, than live in 2024 britainstan.
It’s not an Islamic country not yet anyway 🤦♂️
@@user-ir1lu1ei4nwithout Muslims and others fighting for Britain in WW1 and WW2, you would have no country.
Stan means land
@@user-ir1lu1ei4n without Muslims and others fighting for Britain in WW1 and WW2 you wouldn't have a country.
@@user-ir1lu1ei4nYeah and I’m not dead yet.
There's hundreds of men of fighting age arriving on our shores every day.....send them
Voluntary call up? You either volunteer or you are conscripted. As men and women are equal now, both would be required to be on the front line. Any world war would be short lived. Cheer up though it won't happen.
Well !? Who is the real enemy of the British population !? When you work that question, then answer the question you've been asked ?
The British population are
*The Truth is Anti-Semitic.*
After you, Rishi.
Throw Diane Abbot the frontline too
No, fighting rich peoples battles at the cost of peasants. Ain’t hard to be civil. They just choose not to be
I will not let my boys join the army to fight in wars that aren't ours and stop scare mongering with something that is not needed.
Ive got no beef with my Russian, Iranian or Chinese brethren. Wales have been subjected to English rules for centuries. Why should I fight for Britian?
No chance. This Country is already lost.
First of all in order to call britain a country it needs to establish a border. There is no way Russia could 'invade' when there is no actual border anyway
Working on it.
Actually doesn't have much of an army either!
Tony Blair once requested the parents to send their son's to join the army. But Blair never persuaded any of his sons to do so. Eventually Blair made his son millionaire while those who joined the army are still finding difficult to make the first million. Let the politicians send in their children the rest will follow.
Get them out of the hotels and send them to the front line, if they want to stay in the UK then they can fight for the country they want to call home, bet they want to go to France as the UK will be a war torn country.
I’m not fighting someone else’s battle!
It’s bad enough the UK government poke their noses in other peoples pots and rather give away money than look after their own
They can try to conscript me, but I'll make it as annoying as possible for them, if they do manage to forcibly conscript me I'll be so incompetent and a danger to others they'll have to give me a job mopping a floor in an office.
*Why would i want to defend a country which hates me?*
Too many snowflakes now. If it was to defend our country ok. But going to go fight someone else’s war ?! No thanks. 🤨
Are they trying to tell us something?? Fighting aged men showing up in massive numbers... Could it all be to enlist them because the UK needs its army to grow......
Rather go jail and not fight
Im not fighting for the wrong side so im out
Don’t believe a thing they say. Stop worrying and live your life as best as possible. Turn off the tv
The problem is if we did the only people who would join is British . Then the only men here would be millions of migrants. End of the Uk 🇬🇧
Let's say you 'let them' fight for 'your country'. When there isn't enough of 'them' to fight for 'your country' and everyone you know and love is gone, then is it really 'your country' anymore?
Just let that sink in for a minute.
Have you seen the state of the average uk citizen these days... most of the british who would even want to join up died in the war or have now been replaced in socety with lovely foreign born men who came here to "get away from war".......
Only if we were under direct threat/invasion would I enlist
OP is right. If air raids start to happen or a huge invasion forced assembles off the coast then yes, its all hands on deck. We are far from that. Russia doesn't want a war with NATO and China is nowhere ready for a convention global war.
Peace for all...
No to war
No to killing
No to any kind of harm
Only peace and living in peace ✌️
I think women should fight considering we are all equal 😂
As if the people of this nation want to fight the governments wars 😂