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- Fighter pilot reacts to the AC-130 vs F-22 scene in Olympus Has Fallen.
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It's like this movie was made by a 12-year-old who's only understanding of an AC-130 comes from Call of Duty.
COD at least did it right, it only had the guns on the left, and it had all the cannons...
Exactly what I thought lol
As a pilot I can say this whole scene was cringy, I mean, you don’t even need to be a pilot, any aviation enthusiast will feel the same **cringe af**
It's exactly the target audience
You gotta remember that 12 year old playing CoD when they introduced the AC130 is now 30 and making movies :-)
"Your flares dont do much against an AMRAAM, buddy."- best line of the video
The Herc should have aileron-rolled to shake that AMRAAM. 😉
I might be assuming things here, but shouldn't those stingers fired from the white house have hit the ac-130 before the pilot could even hope to use the flares? i mean it looks like the plane is passing the monument closely, so roughly 750-1000 meters away from the WH. With a speed of around 750 m/s those stingers should hit the planes within 1.5 seconds tops. from hearing the rocket alert to pushing that flare button the rockets should have already hit the plane, right? and even if he somehow mangaged to react in time, the flares couldnt deploy timely enough to divert the rocket in any meaningful way to prevent them from shredding the plane, or am i getting something really wrong here?
I mean, sure, one might have missed by chance of missaiming, but those others should have pretty much reduced the ac-130 to bits and pieces.
@@DarkWardancer Yes but then the movie wouldn't have happened lol
Aetius just a movie they don’t know😂
I believe at that range it would be the AIM-9x Sidewinder.
At least they didn’t utilize the overused Stuka siren as the plane went down
@Latte Potato Wouldn't be funny for that ww2 vet trying to relax at his home .
the plane literally did a brrrt i think a ww2 vet would still be on edge
These sequence is so messed up that the Stuka siren would just be the cherry on top of the cake.
Followed by a Wilhelm scream...
@@Cautionary_Tale_Harris I'm ngl I love Wilhelm screams
"another demolition, another inside job" LOL
😂😂😂 I too liked that.
Nah, nobody would do that...
was he being sarcastic when he said that?
@@rachiddjabrailov4838 lol yea
@@rachiddjabrailov4838 of course not, he said that because himself blew twin towers
What if a Random dude Playing battlefield Sniped the AC-130 pilot
I remember a Blackhawk strafing B site in a Rush game of BFBC2. I shot at that stupid chopper with a shotgun (slug), and headshotted the pilot. It kept it's nose down and hit the ground. Battlefield moments man. Here we are like 8 years later. Never been able to recreate it. Lazy Af shot too
@@patrickmahon3476 Once in Battlefield 4 I was playing operatipn mortar. It was 10 tickets remained to end of the round and I saw a stealth jet coming to me. It was at my behind. And I turned back, ran to cannon, randomly fired it and jet just dived to A objective in front of me and the cannon ball hit him. It was an incredible moment to me. Everyone in the chat went nuts
Yah where are they when you need m?
Clip it!
Or just did a trick shot with a tank using c4 to boost him up in the air
Don't you hate it when you trim your aircraft and accidentally destroy D.C smh
LOL
LMFAO
LMFAO
Na man it’s new bullet propulsion technology the force from the bullets will change its pitch
😂😂
AC130: Deploy Flares!
Guided Missle: *I'm bout to end this Man's whole Career*
yeye
All missiles are guided. It's literally the only thing that makes them missiles instead of rockets.
Hate to be that guy but being an active duty member sometimes I find myself not being able to not be a know it all but all missiles are guided different missile just utilize different guidance systems. Hence the reason the stinger missiles were offset by the flares whereas the amraam wasn’t. But watching these movies I have to remind myself it’s just a movie they don’t know how these things actually work lol
@@rodricus2319 yeah ik I'm just dumb. This was posted a year ago
@@TheByQQ I think he meant to say radar guided missile
just imagine that you're intercepting a cessna, and a guy with a manpad opens the door
What’s that?
@@FlyLeah manpad is a man portable air defence system. it's basically a rocket launcher that fires anti air missiles
Yeah but it'd be suicide to launch a missile from such a confined space.
Kinda happens all the time over Colombia, Brazil, Nicaragua and Mexico. The narcos have been mounting RPG's and manpads to civilian planes for years, of course they usually mount them on the outside. Hell the Sinaloa practically have a legit air force by this point. I know for a fact they have at least two armed T-38's flying escort for their mules. They haven't successfully shot down any aircraft yet, at least not from the air.
@@FlyboyHelosim Indeed Backblast will Fuck em lol
so in reallife the movie would've been called "AC-130 Has Fallen (20 miles away)", would be a 2 minutes short film and every role played by Leslie Nielsen.
Give this comment a thumbs up just for mentioning
Leslie Nielsen!
roger that roger, we have clearance clarence, whats our vector victor
>enemy ac-130 crashes out of confusion
Lol
would have been shot down more than 20 miles
I would have watched that.
5:44 - This guy takes 2 shots with a bolt-action rifle without re-chambering a round, and then pretends to keep shooting without special effects! xD
I saw that and didn't think about it too much. HOT DAMN THAT SHITS *FUCKING RIDICULOUS*
they only had the budget for the first shot and didnt tell him.
LOL AS HELL !
i guess you could say......good enough for government work xD
Hey it could be a double-barrel bolt action magical rifle with infinite ammunition
“small arms fire at a gunship that usually helps” i laughed i couldn’t help it
When Zombie Gunship is more realistic, you get the three types of guns and it's not like this.
@CARR61 uqA:! He's talking about the guns
@@aerina_eclair either way there is an ac 130 that has miniguns on both sides people don't understand there isnt just 1 ac 130 theres multiple versions
@CARR61 uqA:! you do know that AC 130s only has three guns... A 25mm, 40, and 105mm... On one side...
@@chaosagent_0106 Bro Read and understand before you Speak
The point he was trying to make is that the Terrorist modified the AC-130 that way to clear out the armed guards for the phase 2 of the attack to continue as well as not creating any obstacles for their ground forces to assault the white house because the 40 and 105 would have been useless since they are not trying to bombard the white house which may have killed the president and made a mess which would have slowed downed the ground forces assault due to the rubbles and what not their goal was to capture the president for the nuclear codes and not kill the president
*It' s the same reason why President Truman didn't allow Mac arthur to bombard The chinese forces with NUKES during the Koren war because their goal was not to make Korea a radioactive hellhole but to reunite Korea*
@@onesidedunpure109 bro... I just said that the AC 130 is supposed to only have guns on one side. The movie didn't even said something about how they need to modify it.
You’ve never played Battlefield if you haven’t sniped a Jet out of the sky.
Battlefield shot a guy out of a jet with a phantom bow
wait a minute your profile is...
@@skullieriowo1027
Indeed it is...
Shoemcflex Theflex that’s impressive
@@shoemcflextheflex2199 Battlefield I shot a guy out of an SU-57 with an M9 try me.
I think those p90s would be effective. They've got Stopping Power equipped
ACDamps fmj aswell
Stopping Power Pro does give you more vehicle damage. So there's that.
I think they should've switched to their pistols- I've heard it's faster than reloading.
Nah the AC-130 pilots brought Juggernaut and Martyrdom.
Charlie Chapman wanna know what’s faster then reloading ur pistol?
"Two years ago when that Dash 8 was stolen"
Fly high, Sky King. Fly High.
2:48 imagine tying to explain that to your house insurance company.
😂😂😂😂
It happened for real in San Diego. An F/A-18 took out a few houses after the pilot ejected.
“Well an AC-130 took out two F-22 Raptors with its hidden, cockpit-controlled Gatling Guns and one of the Raptors landed on my roof”
@@thiccchungo1041 I would imagine the conversation would be a simple "A plane crashed into my house"
"They waited really long to fire those"
I find Hollywood consistently overestimates how long the military will wait before using lethal force. Hint for civilians, it isn't long enough to ask for a manager.
What makes you think civilians didn't get that message when killing a whole bunch of them regularly is punished with a mere slap on the wrist and the families of the victims can count themselves lucky if they get a reaction at all, even if it's just a big fat "Up yours!"? When punishments, if they occur at all, are regularly based only on a violation of internal formalities but not on the fact that someone was effing killed? When tampering with evidence and lying to cover up such killings become official policy up to the highest levels? Or the fact that the crew of an AC-130 considers checking a no-strike list an unjustifiable hassle?
Believe me, it's crystal-clear that civilians are considered cattle, livestock that should be thankful for every breath they are allowed to draw and ensure that they are not in the way of any member of the military or risk being eradicated - even if they are just tourists in a cable car who couldn't move out of the way of a pilot ignoring any and all regulations of a hosting country if they wanted to.
Certainly an attitude to be proud of!
@@santiagofaiella1255 lol, but that's about 110 seconds too long.
@@ohauss Most people aren't aware of those things. But even operating properly, if you present as an imminent threat the rules of engagement drop straight past all the lights and waving to deadly force. That's what I'm referring to. And yes sometimes the military gets it wrong or someone does something straight up illegal. It's not a perfect institution.
@@santiagofaiella1255 well thats Karen fucked then
@Blank9909 Thanks for proving the point.
Unbeknownst to you, civilized nations abandoned the concept that the military gets to judge itself on criminal charges a while ago.
“Can’t wait to hear him tear apart the retractable roof SAM.” *mover says it’s real* “huh. Cool.”
im sure washington dc has those irl
They’re mostly in suburban neighbourhoods far from the actual building, some on rooftops like here, but there’s no Transformers-grade hidey-holes that they’re popping out of
www.thesun.co.uk/news/10441022/white-house-secret-missile-launcher-alert/amp/
same
Spencer Russell im sure they have so secret stuff too i doubt they would just let you know exactly what all their defences are
@@spencerrussell2267 never link to the sun. Horrible rag doesn't deserve the clicks JFT96
"Oh no another demolition, another inside job" that killed me 😂😂
I love how you catch everything, Mover. The Langley tails, the intercept, the Viper sticks, the raster scan radar, the auto guns, the harness, ROE fails, the USAF somehow having responsibility for intercept in CONUS; the list is long but distinguished... I also love how you called out White House Down first...pahahahahaha. Everytime we watch this, I tell my wife how ridiculous this all is, and she says I know I know...but it is very entertaining. Makes us look like ass clowns, but very entertaining.
I can't imagine an unidentified AC-130 making it to the Potomac before being intercepted or even shot down
Intercepted yes, but one thing to consider, and it's something I imagine they were going for, was that the interceptors may have been thinking that this was some idiot who has a bad radio and/or transponder, and were likely going to shoot once he got close to the Potomac (since it would likely land in the water, minimizing the risk to civilians), but it dropped the disguise before they could do so.
That being said, there should've been another interceptor behind the aircraft ready to shoot, that I will agree with. However, I think the reality of an airspace intrusion like that, might not be the same as what's been practiced or put in place as policy. After all, no sane human *wants* to kill another person unless they have a damn good reason to, and risking casualties on the ground, is not something any intercepting pilot wants to do either.
The nearest ac130 base is in Florida hurlburt field, it wouldnt even make it pass South Carolina
@@KenC4242 there going to know really quickly there not friendly....when there not getting visual replies and nothing on radar they have to shoot them down especially something with a weapons platform no fuckin chance they get anywhere near
@@Tank50us maybe a commercial airplane. a AC130? it get shot down so fast...
@@songhan1586 well, remember that it didn't reveal that was a gunship until after the intercept. So for all the Raptor pilots knew, it was just a normal C130 that had gotten lost and stupidly went somewhere it wasn't allowed to go.
Why would a Raptor pilot get "a visual" on a target when it's primary capability is to engage beyond visual range.
because it is on a civil interception mission and not a war zone. They ID the aircraft visually and not just shoot a Cessna out the sky.
The pilot had been up late the night before playing Battlefield and forgot his training
@@neurofiedyamato8763 Central DC is a no-fly zone. If there's a Cessna there, it's a target.
✨Hollywood✨
@@neurofiedyamato8763 no fly zone my guy
"That's the trim on a 737. So they might have rewired it. You don't know." LMAO
What he said hits different these days...
Even his expressions were more realistic😂
To people wondering : intercept takes only few seconds
If movies used real protocols and scenes this scene would have been only 30 seconds long
"Another demolition....another inside job.."
NO! BAD MOVER!! LMAO
Somebody call 911 !!!! 🏃 🔫
WTC 7
Hey! It's possible for the laws of physics to take a day off.
Ha! I didn't even think of it when I saw it the first time, but when he said that and then showed the monument falling ... it was like I was watching the 1st tower fall all over again. I'm certain they modeled that monument falling on the 1st tower falling.
I came down here to see if anyone commented on that lol.
09:10 Rest in piece dude who tries to fire an RPG from a cessna and removes half the the fuselage with the backblast.
😂😂
I actually though of doing that with a cardboard cutout of one on a mock intercept flight, just with an AK, not an RPG. You know, score the only simulated air to air kill for a Cessna 182.
I really want to see this happen though...
😂😂😂
I was just going to post that! LOL "Fire the rocket!" (Blows out the other side of the fuselage...) "oops?"
The third F-22: Fires AARAM Missile
Me: Man he forgot to say Fox-2!
D:
Isn't it fox three
Fox 2 is infrared missile
@@RightRuddah fox 2s can be radar guided
@@AntiOnYT fox 2 is specifically infrared, fox 1 is semi-active guided , fox 3 is active radar
"That's not a real harness... I don't know what that is, actually." Suspenders, I think, is the word you're looking for. Those definitely look like suspenders.
I thought it resembled someone's backpack.
"Thats a 737 flight director. He's doing 111 knots."
The last jet I flew that would stay airborne at that speed was a Citation 500 ahaha
Yeah, stall speed right there
Woah hold up...
You flew a C500 and *other* jets?!
@Drew Peacock but what's the stall of a f22?
I love how every time some missile is shot against the AC-103 the pilot knows it instantly and then launches the flares. Perhaps the closest character to omniscience portrayed in a movie.
In most modern fighters, you can hear if someone has radar lock on you (you'll hear some beeping sound in your helmet). Same thing when someone fires a radar-guided missile like an AMRAAM. The SAMs used here are also probably radar-guided. But for heat-seaking missiles, nope, you won't hear a thing.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not an expert. I just read too much.
@@CaptainSisig No they are not radar guided. They are laser around DC. There is a room with men that only have the job of identifying close air craft. They would then 'paint' the aircraft with a laser. Those missiles wont be affected by chaff or flares.
@@BamaShinesDistillery I did not know that. Cool stuff!
@jweltsch22 I always thought stealth is for radar only. Didn't it can work against lasers too. When you say computer recognition guided, you mean those missiles with cameras right? Like the AGM-65?
starcommtrey lmao laser guided air to air missiles? Nah dude the f16’s just use asraams and amraams lol
"another demolition, another inside job" LMAOOOOOO i died.
"He took out a house, ah... that sucks"
The lack of interest in that made this a million times better. Military humor ftw.
I love how when they do interior shots of the c130 the cockpit windows seem to be from a 737 or something.
Lots of times it seems they work with what they can get. The first shot of inside the Raptor is clear it's just a cardboard cutout of what it roughly looks like.
Yea I noticed that in the movie, I found it so stupid
Would it be so hard to ask a mil base for them to shoot a few cockpit shots? I know f22s are still classified mostly. In that case just film f16s or 18s then. They surely would let you to film a few cockpit shots on the ground. You can add the screens in post...
@@annahenrietta9517 or like recreate it from DCS world? you'd think they do something like that and green screen a simmed version of the right cockpit? but naaah apparently not lol
When we were prototyping the AC130U we hauled an old C130 hulk into our computer lab and put ... a B1B simulation cockpit in it. Weird C130 with a stick instead of yoke. It looked so wrong especially with the side mounted HUD.
“And he took out a house. That sucks.” 😂😂😂😂🤣
Not really,obama was there when it crashed.
@@glenn9892 f**k, now no one knows his last name
@@joskethegreat4154 his full name is Obama Care
"OH, and he took out a house! ... that sucks" LOL
I didn’t even click on this video but I’m glad I’m here
C.W. “That’s the guy from stealth. Discount Matthew McConaughey”
Jeremy at cinemasins “This guy would be great at cinemasins”
Only that Mover, unlike Jeremy, knows what he's talking about.
I like how discount McConaughey is at least 50% larger than full price McConaughey. What a deal!!
@@agp11001 you and @MS90 would be great at cinemasins
fucking laughed at that one
It was funny, but wrong. That's Cole Hauser (Carter Verone from 2 Fast 2 Furious), not Josh Lucas.
The visual effects looks like something out of a school project. I'm suprised this movie had a $70 million dollar budget.
VFX artists running out of time is what makes most of the CGI look bad. Give the VFX artists at least 2 more months and it would've looked good.
White House Down with Jamie Foxx and Channing Tatun had MUCH better fx
@@ChopperGunnerNL But it's like a set piece for the film, surely it was one of the first things they ordered from the VFX company...
And all the ..... has fallen films have really bad CGI, it's like their thing, not a 1 off.
@@sergarlantyrell7847 Production companies most likely didn't invest enough money in the VFX, another reason why it looks so bad besides the VFX artists having a tight schedule.
@@ChopperGunnerNL QFT. A lot of the budget goes towards paying big name actors while the VFX peasants are worked to the bone for peanuts.
"Small arms fire, that usually helps" lol I love it
"Enemy AC-130 above"
If i remember right, AC-130's only fire from the left side of the AC.
Yeah, AFAIK they only _have_ guns on the port side. Except, weirdly, this one.
That's correct of the ac130 I saw and I don't see the 105 or the twin barrel bang-bang either. The navigation office does the targeting
He has lots of equipment to accomplish the target acquisition
Okay then. I was one of the Engineers (mostly the fire control for the guns) who designed the AC130U. This is silly. The whole concept of a fixed wing gunship is increased accuracy from circling and firing out 1 side. Kind of like a traveling artilary platform
BTW The gatling gun is mostly antipersonel to take a building they would probably pound it with 40mm and 105mm.
Yeah, right.
It's South Korean version of AC-130. With doors on the port and stern, cocpit from 747, and XM-134 s from the Predator.
I have one thing to say: if you’re gonna try to depict a massive air assault, invest in better CGI. The CGI on the anti air defenses and the aircraft sucks.
i have seen far worse.
Its from 2013 😂
@@jaredkruger9750 well there were far better cgi from back then so...
Jared Kruger Tell that to Avatar
You think THAT sucked? Check out the "traffic" when the monument is falling...
never realize how bad that cgi is on everything in this movie
The CGI is decent. It's the realism that sucks.
If your talking about how unrealistic the ac 130 is then your wrong they have ac 130's with 2 miniguns on each side that or the Chinese took out the gun on other side and put 2 other miniguns on the other side
@@WEENUS157 There aren't any, at least not real ones anyway. AC-130s have guns only on the left side as they effectively orbit around the target area at a bank thus making any guns on the right side useless. While you can make the argument that the North Koreans(not Chinese) retrofitted one it would have to be a regular C-130 as AC-130s are used only by the US. NK's allies(China and Russia) Don't have any C-130s which means they must have stolen one from South Korea who do happen to operate 16 C-130s I doubt the theft of one would go unnoticed.
@@WEENUS157 He meant the CGI is bad quality bud, it’s ok, we know you’re eager to show off your extensive AC-130 knowledge
@@aceofspadesguy4913 ik :/
This mans remarks honestly make my day. Thinks like how I do when making random connections between things. Like the Harvey dent thing, and then the inside job reference.
Family friend just left the Secret Service. His opinion on this film, after he stopped laughing, was that those terrorists would have been piles of bloody scraps inside 10 minutes.
From other sources - the White House has had SAMs for decades.
It's especially weird that 80 percent of all agents just fire their Glock instead of using M4s or MP5s with scopes and just three guys take cover.
That was my take as well. I'd bet good money that there are several Patriot batteries somewhere near the White House.
Also, that fancy Phalanx like turret the terrorists used near the end would have been handy when the guys who built it were under air attack...must my $.02
if the white house has had sams for decades why did they not use them on the 9/11 pentagon attacks?
Amazing Andy the White House will always be guarded more so than the pentagon. The president is the first priority .
@@Elthenar stingers too. I ran one. ADA is so thick in DC you can walk across the missile tubes.
“Another inside job” “discount Matthew Mcconaughey” This Dude is cracking me up
I love the part where they’re being shot at the door but the keep funneling out
Just subscribed. Have been watching your vids for about a month now and always enjoy your commentary and knowledge.
F-22 intercept against Iron Man would be a good one
At least that one has somewhat better realism and acceptable than this scene lol
I was a crew chief on H Model Specters when they came home from Viet Nam. The 20mm gatling guns were rigid mounted and not steerable. They were not retractable and they also were only on the left side. They were aimed by the pilot looking through a gunsight mounted on his/her left side. The 40mm and 105mm were on steerable mounts. They were aimed by a crew in a booth in the cargo bay. Nothing shot out of the right side except flares. The only purpose for the guns on the right side in the movie seems to be to shoot down the F-22. Plot device.
The current gunships have a different weapon's suite and don't use the 20mm anymore.
The movie aircraft is not Air Force issue. Someone custom built it for this attack. I can see the 22mms being retractable so IMO it would have made more sense to have it painted up like a conventional cargo C-130. Then it is operated as a "Q-Ship." I'd have to do some measuring of the cargo bay and the guns to see if there is enough room to retract them. Of course for this operation the barrels could have been shortened as they are operating at close range. Steering the guns to aim them is an issue that also caught my attention in the movie. When the aircraft is flying straight and level directly overhead of the city streets its guns are shooting straight down. This happens several times. The guns are firing at angles that are not physically possible for where they are mounted.
As Mr. Lemoine also pointed out, who is aiming the guns? The pilots are mostly looking straight ahead and there is no side mounted gunsight. There are no sensors mounted in the crew door or landing gear pod as in a true AC-130. Maybe they had some system on the gun mounts that fed back to a fire control booth??? This is a custom job after all.
The last bit that made me laugh was the sound the plane made as it crashed. The engine/prop noise does not sound like any turbo-prop I ever heard. I could be mistaken but it didn't sound right.
I enjoyed the movie but sometimes my WTF meter went off scale.
@America I don't have the specs on them but the new gunships have replaced the 200mms with a 25mm that is on a steerable mount. The fire control team in the center of the aircraft would operate that as they do the 40mm and the 105mm. The pilot no longer aims any of the weapons.
Yeah the plane tumbling down sounded like metal bending under stress, like you should have seen the whole plane snap in half or something. Definitely didn't fit the visual **cringing**
let's talk about shooting flares with a switch above the head...
I was one of the Engineers on the AC130U design back in the late 80s early 90s. We brought in some of the Vietnam era Gunship designers as Consultants. Those guys had great stories of BDA as they were building the Hs in the field. (We got to see later BDA of AC130Hs pounding Panama) Anyway the AC130U has trainable gun mounts for the 25mm, 40mm, and 105mm. The pilot still has a side mounted HUD for backup but the primary Fire Control was handled by the FCO and Sensor operators in back. Not sure of the later W model.
Worked as an EW specialist on the U and got to help tear parts out of the last H before it went to the air park on base. Like you guys said, all of the guns on the left. 20mms were static on the H. The 25mm on the U is trainable, but not as crazy as this plane. The feeding systems would be way too large for the guns to retract like that, especially if they were on both sides. Like you guys said, no visible sensors for aiming the guns. As an EW guy, I cringed over the flares. As was said, the switch is not mounted up top. A burst of flares that long probably would've melted the buckets (also, chaff would've probably dispensed in addition to the flares). The missiles probably wouldn't explode upon contact with the flares. The later missile that took down the plane would've had to deal with chaff which IS effective against missiles that rely on radar. And assuming that the plane is indeed an H model (based on the twin miniguns), there is more than just flares for countermeasures.
Totally love your break downs! Learn a lot! Keep it up!
I loved this! He's not a bogey made me spit out my coffee, well done.
The fact that they just kept firing at the AC with small arms always disappointed me, the guys assigned to guarding the most important man in the states not understanding basic ballistics is almost as dumb as when the Secret Service get taken down by some lightly armed terrorists.
They clearly never watched Dunkirk
Sometimes it work. Just like how the Vietnamese taking out several American planes using small arms weapons. They anticipate the path the plane gonna pass and they open fire creating walls of leads where the planes have no choice but to pass through it. Eventually something gonna get hit that would cause the plane to crash.
@@AlexSDU Yeah, I've never heard of that happening. Maybe it did, but it seems far more likely that they just had, you know, anti aircraft weaponry. Especially if we're talking about planes flying over North Vietnam. Some vietcong in the jungle with AKs aren't going to accomplish that while also getting shot at by American troops.
@@AlexSDU Sorry but I don't think mag dumping a plane at 500ft with a P90 is going to even penetrate the aluminum body, much less destroy a critical competent.
@@AlexSDU "wall of lead" would mean *hundreds* of people firing AKs and such. But even then, it's not enough for a speeding aircraft at several hundred feet for a good guarantee of any thing hitting. Assault rifles firing into the sky is not equivalent to an AA flak cannon which literally explodes in the sky to damage high speed aircraft. Good luck also doing any critical damage even with a 50 cal.
Those men were put outside for no reason and died for no reason.
*imagines few guards still using rifles or snipers, trying to shoot the flying AC-130 with a mini guns intact*
Movies
Possible in GTA. Snipe the pilot ,,😂
And being in the open
To be fair, while I don't know how thick the exterior of an AC-130 is, if it's anything like H-60s then small arms will still penetrate the aircraft when it's that close to the ground. Not likely to hit somebody, but there's still a chance, and those bullets will ricochet around in there too.
An old vet I knew shot down a german spotter plane with a rifle in WWII, so technically it is possible, you just have to be really lucky.
Actually is pretty realistic for Secret Service to shoot at an aircraft. But still, those fighters would have shot down the plane way sooner than that.
Shoutout to the Badman reference at 2:12! Did NOT expect that! xD Instant sub right there
Always a pleasure watching your videos..
111 knots, but in full afterburner. Also, funny how the minigun rounds penetrate the walls of the buildings but not a car...
The should have destroyed part of the house. The holes looked like paintings. The bullets can penetrate tanks from kilometers, yet they can't even demolish a concrete wall.
That car had plot armor, because the hero was behind it.
The 20mm gatling gun that plane is carrying should have completely leveled that building and the car should have been turned into swiss cheese
@@matthewyoung9828 cdn.instructables.com/FMO/LDR8/FOHU2UE9/FMOLDR8FOHU2UE9.LARGE.jpg Surburban hit by practice rounds by mistake.
and in human
LolLolLol the pilot just pops a switch in the cockpit and then the turrets come out of the sides of the aircraft, meanwhile in real life, they actually have a whole crew manning the turrets in the back
Aaand it should be on the left side only lol
@@zoleta1044 and guns shouldn't be mounted on pickup trucks, the aiming and keeping the guns running as if by automation or magic is a lot worse if we could we wouldn't have people manning these guns, their workplace environment is almost guaranteed to give you lung cancer
They on that x games mode shit LOL
I saw this scene on CZcams before. I laughed through the whole thing. It’s just so ridiculous
great content dude! nice to hear opinions from the pro!
At least they got in the requisite “destruction of famous structure or monument” that is required when you’re filming a disaster or action type movie in a famous city. It’s always the Golden Gate Bridge, Statue of Liberty, Washington Monument, Eiffel Tower, Big Ben, etc.. So they got that checked off the list I guess.
Heh, at least the SAM didn't "chase" the C-130 around, I'll give 'em that!
The stingers in the next movie do.
I remember during 2015 the guy in the gyrocopter made it all the way to the capitol west lawn. Radar couldn't track him.
Watch a lot of your stuff, love the content, especially the roast of Battlefield 3 mission with the WSO. Got an instant like on this one for Badman and the 2 face reference. Does the same thing with Gordon when he takes off his glasses on the superman skit. Miss those skits.
I watched this movie when I was a kid and thought it was rather hilarious than tragic because of the ways the movie depicted these scenes...
...also knowing North Korea is the last people in the world that can afford something like that....
Why not? It's not like they're spending money on feeding their people.
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They most likely nuke before doing a stupid ass attack like that. But to be fair these guys are more rogue agents.
@@disfatbidge2064 grorious reader kim would be far more likely to burn cash playing on steam all day than he would be willing to actually follow through with an attack on America. Let's be real here, any nation trying to get nuclear weapons is only doing so to secure their existence; were they to actually use the weapons, it would be doubtless to virtually anyone that these tiny rogue nations would not survive. Rather, it just makes these rogue nations too spiky and risky to be worth attacking
For all their bluster, North Korea's military is generations behind.
@@Gogglesofkrome Nothing more rogue than stupid Presidents U.S. keeps getting into the White House and then these short-sighted war criminals get away with their crimes, no problem.
These kind of movies are trying too hard to be taken seriously these days. Before they would embrace the cheese and go with it. Also great reference to Badman, those skits are hilarious.
Kiros embrace the cheese! I like that
That's why 80's and 90's movies are so fun to watch. Intentional or not, nothing tops that cheese.
this dude genuinely made me laugh. that no bs dad humor
I like that Andrew's AFB is in the woods... Nope, its in the city. Been there a few times!
Those f22s looked so bootleg lol. The vertical stabs were almost at 90 degrees🤦♂️
6:45 "another inside job"
that was hilarious
Is nobody gonna talk about the guy that was firing the bolt action like it was a semi auto haha
this is why i need my medicinal M1- Abrams
Next time Lord of the Rings, the scene when the Eagles fly in and grab Gandalf.
F R O D O ' s BIZARRE ADVENTURE
YAS!!!
12:00 - Lets just watch everyone on the ground get wasted and then stand in the open on the roof top and wait my turn. Some of these movies really make the military look DUMB.
But, it is a movie.
Definitely. Anyone can say what they will about Michael Bay, at least Michael Bay would have gotten this whole scene right. The man's made the finest military porn I've ever seen.
The guys on the rooftop weren't military. They were Secret Service. And they weren't dumb, that's their job.
What IS dumb is that those Stingers - whatever the launch mechanism used - weren't fired far, far earlier. But them standing their post, even in the face of certain death? That's not stupidity.
The launch platforms weren't even stingers. Those were sea-sparrows. Also the secret service was quite dumb. They had no way of handling the AC-130. They should prioritize taking cover and protecting the president from ground threats.
Glad to meet another Mitch Rapp fan.
RIP Vince Flynn, an amazing writer, up there with Robert Ludlum and Tom Clancy
Great react, as always. Thanks.
Next movie it's gonna be like:
"I actually know the guy that flies that jet and that's not him, that's wrong.
"who is aiming?" obviously not stormtroopers 🤣
Are you kidding me? Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise!
The thing is, it isn’t shooting at main characters. You’ll notice it hits practically everyone but Gerard Butler. So really, it’s exactly like stormtroopers. Kill everyone but the main character, and then laughably miss him.
They used Aimbot
Well to be fair Stormtroopers fight against space wizard with plot armor
I want this man to make his own movie and judge it.
"He's not a Bogey" lmao. You my friend have just earned a follower
"It looks cooler to put a raptor"
Not to me, it ain't. Fighting Falcon's profile is just sexy to me.
TRY F35 🤪😍
@@tori9365 Nah! That one did hit every branch on the fugly tree on the way down.. ;)
@@TachyonDriver haha noooo xD I love it
I agree with you there
Raptors do look cooler for the majority. Looks more futuristic
UNLIMITED COUNTERMEASURES....guns on both sides and everything is controlled by the pilot...who I'm assuming has next-level tech that allows him to aim the gun without any aid. Definitely next-gen! lol just throw the whole scene away!!
Q THATS WHAT IM SAYING!
I was one of the Engineers that designed the AC130U. This is mostly silly but on a real AC130U the pilot does have a side mounted HUD to align shots as a backup mode. In a real AC130 normally the opeators in back working the sensors etc align the shots. Again much silliness here.
The AC-130 can carry up to 540 M206 flares. Each bucket holds 30 and there are 18 buckets.
Don't the AC-130's guns just face left? Both sides seems silly if you're in orbit...
@@brentlawson6602 Yes exactly!
Everybody dies from a rogue AC-130
C.W. Lemoine: Well that sucks.....
I were really uncomfortable while watching this scene. Even with my layman understanding of military protocols, it made no sense how any of this would even be possible in a post 9/11 world. There is just no way I can suspend my disbelief enough to believe a AC-130 could penetrate one of the best defended air spaces in the US.
I love the sarcastic look you give ad you say, “another I inside job”! You are a funny guy Mover.
But what was the sarcasm denoting ? That's what I'd like to know . I understand the subject , but not sure of his implication.
@@pj7362 Because lots of eggheads think that 9/11 was an inside job.
Nyph well something weird happened that day
@@nyph933 Thing is that it is impossible for the plane to have caused the collapse of the building. The buildings fell in free fall which means that every single supporting structure failed instantly at the same time. Also WTC 7 fell as well even though it was not hit by a plane.
No. CW is a military man, so he knows that, despite everything the 'physicists, engineers and architects' will tell you they KNOW is correct, in the Real World (TM) when 'Shit Goes Down', whatever happens HAS happened. "...the reality is, no steel frame high rise has ever suffered a direct, full-speed impact by a large commercial aircraft before that day, or since."
I really hate movies like this just because of how lazily they’re made. You can make a movie that’s entertaining yet still maintains a reasonable level of authenticity and plausibility. But these guys don’t even try. 15 minutes in we’re hit with their primary inciting event, which is some laughably ridiculous shit that would never even come close to happening in real life.
If you want realistic watch a documentary. It’s a popcorn flick.
Agreed, movies that feel authentic provide the audience with a more richer experience
Thing is, they don't even know they're wrong.
@@ryanpayne9119 Of course they do, they just don't care because authenticity isn't the aim of the movie, entertainment is and for what is probably the majority of viewers, we do not care how accurate the specifics are, I mean, if I was in the market to buy a raptor I would not watch this scene from this movie and consider it a performance demonstration of the aircraft or use it to decide whether or not I like the interior of a raptors cockpit because I understand it's a Hollywood action movie an' Hollywood is the home of cars with doors that stop bullets and mundane objects that explode because they have volatile temperaments or some such. If the directors of a movie wanted things to be authentic they would outsource to an expert on the points they're looking to get right.
Having said the above, I enjoyed this movie and I enjoyed Mover's discussion on it. Have a great day, Ryan Payne.
Mitch - Datway The people who made this film didn’t ignore realism for the sake of entertainment. They ignored realism because they were ignorant and too lazy to actually research the subject they were covering.
They might as well have just had the bad guys infiltrate the White House by launching themselves over the fence in a flaming 18 wheeler and they all jump out as it explodes. That would have been no less plausible and would have probably been more entertaining to watch. While they were at it, they should have made Gerard Butler’s character a cyborg alien who kills all the bad guys with his acid piss. Because that sounds fuckin cool, and if you’re already throwing logic out the window, why not go all out?
Imagine just chillin' in your cozy house until an F-22 Raptor slams right in your face
Excellent breakdown
Mover, I'd like to suggest: Patlabor 2 where the JSDF Intercepts a fighter. It's a political thriller science-fiction anime from '93, which people praised for its accurate representation of an aircraft interception, I'd like to see your comment on that.
I second this.
Hell yeah
@hangtime 7190 get bent
@@AntiNoobDefence He's right tho. Always disparage weebs wherever you find them so that they know their place.
t. another weeb
btw Patlabor's F-15SMT version was pure fire.
@@nickkorkodylas5005 but liking anime isn't about seeing japanese people as some godly race, it's about appreciating animation and storytelling (which is why I prefer stuff before 2000)
When you said Harvey face I thought "Is he quoting badman?" and I was for whatever reason very pleased when you confirmed it. Love that sketch series.
This is freaking great. The facial reactions made me subscribe.
You're reactions are great you don't pause and talk every 5 seconds like most do and that's what makes great at reaction videos
Mover, I’d like to suggest Red Flag: The Ultimate Game, which someone has posted in its entirety here on CZcams. Thanks for doing these. They’re a lot of fun.
seconding this. I've been asking Mover to do Red Flag for a while now. Also - Blackadder's basic flying training, just for the hell of it.
+1 red flag
@@jakubfabisiak9810 I think Mover could learn a thing or two from Wing Commander The Lord Flashheart :D
Yeah I mentioned Red Flag as well, have the DVD. Would also like to see Black Angel and Interceptor
NOPE, that's not the guy from Stealth: Josh Lucas.
This is Cole Hauser.
And if POTUS is Aaron Eckhart...
...where's Tomas Jane?
he'd be socom
from good will hunting
ok boomer
Tears of the Sun
He's the guy from 2 Fast 2 Furious :P And one of the antagonists in this film played the antagonist in The Fast and the Furious, so I guess they liked those films. xD
5:01 Oh I didn't know flares stop missiles dead in their tracks
I like the sarcasm in the humor. nice job.
He trimming, hes outta trim 🤣 . I just absolutely enjoy these ruins! Mover must ruin Firefox! 😷
Firefox is a pretty great movie -not so much the flight scenes tho
@@xen6093 wait. I thought Firefox was a documentary?
Thanks for reminding me about that show haven't even thought about it in years. not that it matters just hit the breaks in you're F14 and they'll fly right by. works every time.
when i first saw the movie, this scene pissed me off so much how many things they got wrong. Not just this scene but throughout the movie
12:52
The Flight Director on the right panel shows a turn that contradicts with the turn shown by the centre display
Also, the radar on the left panel is sideways
When it comes to the aiming of the miniguns, the C-47 cargo planes that were turned into the very first "Spooky" gunships had 4 miniguns and a flare launcher on one side of the aircraft where the pilot not only flew an orbit around the AO, But also fired all 4 miniguns at once through a reticle on his side. To be fair, the design was very effective at its job, so I could see this model working similarly but the reticle is inside the pilots visor instead of on the craft itself because the miniguns are on mounts that let them aim in more than a straight line (I assume they follow the pilots vision)