Many North supporters don't agree with you, but this North supporter does. In my opinion the North lists on paper weren't good enough to make it to those two preliminary finals and perhaps even some other finals appearances. I didn't disagree with Scott leaving at the time because every coach has a used by date at a club.
@@chook2870 don't forget they were only able to pay approx 90% of the salary cap due to the rules during his time (being given assistance from the afl), pretty hard to compete with clubs paying so much more. You do not last as a coach for 10 years at any club if you cannot coach.
Of course, Scott accused King of pushing hard for his Kangaroo exit. No love lost there. Remember when Scott bumped King at his last game coaching North.
David King actually knows stuff all about the game. 2011 GF will never live it down with me “Geelong can’t win, they don’t have the forwards to kick a score”
Yeh right cause 1 comment means it’s true, he would have more of a clue about the game then you considering how long he was in and around the game and is a paid analyst
The job of the coach is to get the best out of the players at his disposal. I don’t think he ever had a list at North that was ever likely to seriously challenge for a premiership. So to get them to a couple of preliminary finals would suggest he squeezed the best out of that list. He never was able to get big name recruits at a club that was under resourced. As a Dons supporter I welcome him to the club and wish him all the best. He’s got a big job to change the culture of a group of players who have no idea what success looks like, and have no concept of the hard work required on and off the field. That’s his biggest challenge.
@@Pullyaheadin92 they were a good team, fyfe, Sandilands, Mundy, Neale, Walters, Pavlich, Johnson, McPharlin, Stephen hill, barlow, Ballantyne and more
@@patrickmaher4909 so you wanted him in charge of another rebuild after the mess he left their list in now? 2 prelims arguably over achieving at the cost of a list that will take 5 years to repair... their current list is a direct result of the plodders he signed; poor recruitment decisions and shocking player development overall. Will take years to recover from a decade between 09-19 of poor management and poor decisions. The only problem was they sacked him 3 years too late.
Kingy not sold on anyone Mr Negative until it came to his mate Horse and Sydney Swans they are this and that great team Got Absolutely Smashed . Even the pies would of taken it up to the Cats compared to limp Swans non event.. Hird backer without thinking the baggage he would of bought and mistrust even though I doubt he'd ever cheat again going backwards with him is not going forward for the bombers Great move B Scott is proven very good coach with a shite team like North he did well ! Look what happened when he left KINGY
I love how someone who doesn’t have the balls to coach likes to have his say on someone that’s going back for seconds I hope if they cross paths Scott follows through this time and cleans him up like he alway did in there playing years
The same King who also said early in the season that Melbourne basically had the flag wrapped up & everyone else was playing for 2nd.. yes he's entitled to an opinion, but no one knows how successful anyone will be anywhere they go. Past success or failure helps us form an opinion at the time, but it is merely that, an opinion. Lots of pundits thought Malthouse would win flags at Carlton, lots of pundits thought Rocket Eade was the cherry on top at the Sun's & they would win flags, lots of people thought Voss would be no good at Carlton this year, no one expected Mcrae to do anything at Collingwood this year.. anything can happen.
@@taxads7791 I never said he was right or wrong. Ive been a bombers supporter all my life. Im so tired of being the blind optimist. He thinks it wont work i think it will but he can say what he wants
Kingy I think the term your after is commercial-in-confidence it exists in other industries should be the same for AFL, and Scott should conform to that criteria
He is the type of coach that may get a few decent results/rise up the ladder as he did with North, but is not in all likelihood a premiership winning coach nor one you want to have the control of building a list - the mess North Melbourne is in now is largely if not solely due to the list he put together and recruitment decisions along with Joyce. Given far too much autonomy at North and the mess he left is clear for all to see.
Back to brother against brother, I agree Scott was the best option without a doubt, hopefully in a few years Chris hopefully will take it up to his brother,
Yes Micheal, good comment. Hird is not finished as a coach, pity if that happens, Hird was doing a good job before Caro got hold of the scandal. How about Hird going to Brisbane or Nth Melb under the current Hawthorn debacle. Think about it, Hird still wants to coach.
Essendon defence has been a worried for the last 7, the main contributor factor is why they struggle in the defence is, we had two of the worst coach in essendon history, who were only fit to clean the toilet of the hanger ,who were oxygen thief ,Clueless, incompetent ,who had no game plan, no defensive structures ,no ideas , couldn't motivate the players, you had John Worsfold who really didn't want to be a coach, who was talked into coaching again by razzamatazz, the Essendon president at that time little got in his jet with the captain of the Essendon football Dyson Heppell to talk to John Worsfold ,you have the CEO Xavier Campbell who was totally incompetent and couldn't recognise that these two coach hopeless, with these two oxygen fief coach at the helm of Essendon we hit rock bottom, now with the appointment of Brad Scott as new coach, there is only one way to go now it up
Kingy spent most of hos time undermining Brad Scott no surprises What he forgot what he did with average team at North ! And what happened once he was gone ??
Sometimes I think King just says things to justify his salary, he very rarely has anything but an opinion. It (really) hurts to say it but even Caroline Wilson does more due diligence than this clown. Did Essendon have any good choices Kingy? You muppet. Scott is also not the first person recruited from behind this "curtain" you mention and it's not like the environment in the AFL is like the CIA, be realistic fellas.
King has bias. Never liked Scott in my opinion he had a list that was overachieving for the talent there to get to finals which was a miracle during a strong period of the AFL. He'll be a strong coach Mark my words
Bad Choice Brad Scott. Should have been James Hird every day of the week. He didn't do much at North Melbourne in 10yrs . After Hirdy's enforced lay-off he came back & we rolled the Hawks . And Clarko was ment 2 be the Very Best Coach in the last 20 yrs .
4me it's like the Bombers knew who they wanted 2 get & just played the game with everyone else just so they would be seen 2 do the right thing. Scott had one interview & got the Job . I smell a Rat 🐀
If Brad Scott does at Essendon anything like what he did as GM at the AFL, Essendon are never going to recover. This guy doesn’t actually understand footy. Maybe that’s why he’s 3rd in games coached without reaching a granny 😂
King is deluded, Scott has north massively over achieving. I worry he’ll do well at the bombers
Many North supporters don't agree with you, but this North supporter does. In my opinion the North lists on paper weren't good enough to make it to those two preliminary finals and perhaps even some other finals appearances. I didn't disagree with Scott leaving at the time because every coach has a used by date at a club.
Then Id say if he over achieved that he had 9 years to get the list how he wanted but didnt
@@chook2870 don't forget they were only able to pay approx 90% of the salary cap due to the rules during his time (being given assistance from the afl), pretty hard to compete with clubs paying so much more. You do not last as a coach for 10 years at any club if you cannot coach.
@@taxads7791 Id just have to see it I guess. I do also barrack for a club that has been 'poor' financially
Of course, Scott accused King of pushing hard for his Kangaroo exit. No love lost there. Remember when Scott bumped King at his last game coaching North.
Hundred percent. King was the main driver to push Scott out. No wonder this us his opinion lol
That wasn't a bump hahahah he skimmed his shirt
King needs to coach and put his money were his mouth is or just shut the fuck up hes worse than covid
David King actually knows stuff all about the game.
2011 GF will never live it down with me
“Geelong can’t win, they don’t have the forwards to kick a score”
Yeh right cause 1 comment means it’s true, he would have more of a clue about the game then you considering how long he was in and around the game and is a paid analyst
Kingy hating on Scott what else is new
The job of the coach is to get the best out of the players at his disposal. I don’t think he ever had a list at North that was ever likely to seriously challenge for a premiership. So to get them to a couple of preliminary finals would suggest he squeezed the best out of that list. He never was able to get big name recruits at a club that was under resourced. As a Dons supporter I welcome him to the club and wish him all the best. He’s got a big job to change the culture of a group of players who have no idea what success looks like, and have no concept of the hard work required on and off the field. That’s his biggest challenge.
I would argue Scott didn’t have the talent like those hawks, Freo, swans, geelong teams in that period that’s why he missed top 4 but always competed
Freo? Hahaha your having a laugh
@@Pullyaheadin92 they were a good team, fyfe, Sandilands, Mundy, Neale, Walters, Pavlich, Johnson, McPharlin, Stephen hill, barlow, Ballantyne and more
I thought that Brad did well with the tools available at North.
What happened when he left the Kangaroos, they went backwards big time. Big mistake let him go.
@@patrickmaher4909 so you wanted him in charge of another rebuild after the mess he left their list in now? 2 prelims arguably over achieving at the cost of a list that will take 5 years to repair... their current list is a direct result of the plodders he signed; poor recruitment decisions and shocking player development overall. Will take years to recover from a decade between 09-19 of poor management and poor decisions. The only problem was they sacked him 3 years too late.
Kingy not sold on anyone Mr Negative until it came to his mate Horse and Sydney Swans they are this and that great team Got Absolutely Smashed . Even the pies would of taken it up to the Cats compared to limp Swans non event.. Hird backer without thinking the baggage he would of bought and mistrust even though I doubt he'd ever cheat again going backwards with him is not going forward for the bombers Great move B Scott is proven very good coach with a shite team like North he did well ! Look what happened when he left KINGY
Essendon sleeper agent is Scotty, planted inside head office then extracted at the 11th hour
I love how someone who doesn’t have the balls to coach likes to have his say on someone that’s going back for seconds I hope if they cross paths Scott follows through this time and cleans him up like he alway did in there playing years
Tactically a crap coach saw Roos lose many games through his incompetency. I was hoping Mark Williams would have put his hand up
I agree with king. Never thought I’d say that.
North never had the resources that the bombers had. Brad will be fine but King is entitled to his opinion
The same King who also said early in the season that Melbourne basically had the flag wrapped up & everyone else was playing for 2nd.. yes he's entitled to an opinion, but no one knows how successful anyone will be anywhere they go. Past success or failure helps us form an opinion at the time, but it is merely that, an opinion. Lots of pundits thought Malthouse would win flags at Carlton, lots of pundits thought Rocket Eade was the cherry on top at the Sun's & they would win flags, lots of people thought Voss would be no good at Carlton this year, no one expected Mcrae to do anything at Collingwood this year.. anything can happen.
@@taxads7791 I never said he was right or wrong. Ive been a bombers supporter all my life. Im so tired of being the blind optimist. He thinks it wont work i think it will but he can say what he wants
David King seems happy with Brad Scott !
King is nearly on the money regarding the CEO going back to clubland, akin to politicians immediately quitting to become a lobbyist.
If he doesn't click with this Group within 2 years! He's gone! James -Returns part 2
Kingy I think the term your after is commercial-in-confidence it exists in other industries should be the same for AFL, and Scott should conform to that criteria
I’m not sold on David king either. Bomber Brad will bring FIRE into Essendons weak belly. Go DONS! Is Don is good.
Guess we all find out in 12 months time if King is correct.
Think Kingy rates Scott as the bombers new coach…
What he doesn’t rate is being able to go straight from afl operations into a coaching role.
Hardly an unbiased viewpoint! I wasn’t convinced he was much at NM, but he deserves a chance to prove he can do it. Uze was my pick though
He is the type of coach that may get a few decent results/rise up the ladder as he did with North, but is not in all likelihood a premiership winning coach nor one you want to have the control of building a list - the mess North Melbourne is in now is largely if not solely due to the list he put together and recruitment decisions along with Joyce. Given far too much autonomy at North and the mess he left is clear for all to see.
Back to brother against brother,
I agree Scott was the best option without a doubt, hopefully in a few years Chris hopefully will take it up to his brother,
King David knows everything, just ask him.
Yes Micheal, good comment. Hird is not finished as a coach, pity if that happens, Hird was doing a good job before Caro got hold of the scandal. How about Hird going to Brisbane or Nth Melb under the current Hawthorn debacle. Think about it, Hird still wants to coach.
David King never has anything positive to say about anyone…!!
Surely there is an employment and IP restraint clause in his AFL contract? What a farce.
He already has an issue with Scotty....not surprised of his thoughts. Scotty will prove then all wrong...he'll be a great coach.
Considering David Kings strike rate I don't think the bombers have much to worry about. Kingy runs at about 20% accurate.
I’m pretty certain this is that 20% though
@@tspoon772 Time will tell. I'm quietly confident it's a great choice
It's called a non compete clause. You can do that
he is a good man give him a chance
The Ruck: great comment. It is a messy situation now. Just let the other ruckman tap the ball down then tackle whoever grabs it.
King is the all time negativety King. Always ends up with egg on his face.
Think there will be no near miss next time
Great appointment.
Not sure David King is unbiased.
David King hats Brad Scott
Essendon defence has been a worried for the last 7, the main contributor factor is why they struggle in the defence is, we had two of the worst coach in essendon history, who were only fit to clean the toilet of the hanger ,who were oxygen thief ,Clueless, incompetent ,who had no game plan, no defensive structures ,no ideas , couldn't motivate the players, you had John Worsfold who really didn't want to be a coach, who was talked into coaching again by razzamatazz, the Essendon president at that time little got in his jet with the captain of the Essendon football Dyson Heppell to talk to John Worsfold ,you have the CEO Xavier Campbell who was totally incompetent and couldn't recognise that these two coach hopeless, with these two oxygen fief coach at the helm of Essendon we hit rock bottom, now with the appointment of Brad Scott as new coach, there is only one way to go now it up
Bad move for the Bombers, putting in someone else's failure. If I was a Member I would burn my Membership Ticket over this move.
Why ?
I fear this is another bad coaching appointment.I hope I am wrong.
anybody that follows footy should know that David King does not like Brad Scott... we are not idiots
King always being a Karen
Karen King . I like that .
Edmund doesnt know much aye
Sean Grigg is coaching at Geelong now. Sean Grigg the Richmond premiership ruckman.
Essendon smart enough to give Hird a miss, they now have a chance.
Great choice, he loses nearly half the time.
@@richardbehan8118 😂😂😂😂😂😂
David King the next Mark Robinson
Kingy thats why there classed as handy pick ups why do you think cats went after shaun grigg for in-house knowledge of a good club set up
Brad scott can not complain about umpiring now, if he dare does I swear
David King …terrible to listen to.
take a holiday kingy, bitter & tied old man
Kingy spent most of hos time undermining Brad Scott no surprises What he forgot what he did with average team at North ! And what happened once he was gone ??
Sometimes I think King just says things to justify his salary, he very rarely has anything but an opinion.
It (really) hurts to say it but even Caroline Wilson does more due diligence than this clown. Did Essendon have any good choices Kingy? You muppet.
Scott is also not the first person recruited from behind this "curtain" you mention and it's not like the environment in the AFL is like the CIA, be realistic fellas.
The problem is actually for Scott that it is an incompetent Essendon organisation
King has bias. Never liked Scott in my opinion he had a list that was overachieving for the talent there to get to finals which was a miracle during a strong period of the AFL.
He'll be a strong coach Mark my words
Do not have any time for King as a commentator.
David king using radio to air personal dislikes what a muppet lol
Bad Choice Brad Scott.
Should have been James Hird every day of the week.
He didn't do much at North Melbourne in 10yrs .
After Hirdy's enforced lay-off he came back & we rolled the Hawks . And Clarko was ment 2 be the Very Best Coach in the last 20 yrs .
4me it's like the Bombers knew who they wanted 2 get & just played the game with everyone else just so they would be seen 2 do the right thing.
Scott had one interview & got the Job .
I smell a Rat 🐀
Geelong V Essendon Round 12023
If Brad Scott does at Essendon anything like what he did as GM at the AFL, Essendon are never going to recover. This guy doesn’t actually understand footy. Maybe that’s why he’s 3rd in games coached without reaching a granny 😂
Who cares what King thinks
He’s a dud
King is Mr negative never has anything worthwhile to say always a complainer
Who cares what king thinks