The Paralleled Careers of Lundqvist and Price
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Henrik Lundqvist and Carey Price are two of the best NHL goalies to ever play. Despite both playing on mediocre teams their whole career, they carried these franchises to deep playoff runs. While both are have stopped playing professional hockey, they shared a shockingly similar career of success, failure, and disappointment.
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Who had the better career, Lundqvist or Price?
Both had amazing careers but for me Price was better and unlike lundqvist who did have a few stellar players except for subban Price never had anything
@@Nothing_important90the Rangers never had any star players while Hank was there. Nash never really delivered and everyone else was slightly above average at best. Also, Hanks all time GSAx of over 190 is so far above everyone else, that it's not even really THAT close lol. Price is definitely also a generational goalie but not quite the same as Lundqvist.
Without the Price injury in 2014 the Habs would have beat the Kings in a 93 rematch. Hank never makes the finals and Prices career goes to a next level. Carey is probably still playing without the Kreider injury.
@@amsro9094 the habs wouldnt have played the kings though
@@The_Punisher_969good point but for me price is still better he managed to win the hart, vezina and Jennings trophy in the same season without a good team and in 2021 he played the entire playoffs with an injury and still carried the habs to the finals
Rinne and Luongo had similar careers too.
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and ben bishop although big ben ofc aint a HOF but he dominated the 2010s
rinne far ahead of luongo but i see what you mean
@@kristianlarsen9875i disagree i think it’s the other way around
Both amazing Goalies. Not all Hall of Famers win a cup. It's too bad but they were absolutely legends!!!
I felt bad for him when the kings won in 2014
It’s crazy that you didn’t even mention that Price won the Hart and Ted Lindsay in 2014-15 (quite literally the 2nd goalie ever to do so)
And that he never lost a game while playing for team Canada!!!
3rd but yeah an incredible feat
great feat, but very low scoring year and compared to shesterkin 2021 season he was not as good, also not as good as tim thomas 2010 season, i could name 10 goalies with better season that just did not happen to have the chance of having no forwards scoring more than 90 points..
As a habs fan it kills me that price is gonna retire without a cup he really did everything in his power to get them to the SCF in 2021.
I am a Blackhawks fan through and through (for better or worse), but if Carey Price ever managed to recoup sufficiently and return to the ice, I would be freaking ECSTATIC.
Nice to see a real hockey fan on here. It's one thing to be dedicated to your team, but it's another to have respect for the other amazing players in the league. I myself am a Habs fan, I grew up a Roy fan and a price fan, but I love watching King Henrik and from your team's history Eddie the eagle.
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Connor Bedard's family used to live just down the road, so now I will be watching Hawks games because he is going to be one of the greats!!! Wish he was a Hab, but at least he went to a great franchise!!!
@@nathanadrian7797 🤘🍺
It would've been sick if he had played just 1 game in 2022-2023 just to say he played cause 1 is better than none like the 5 he played in 2021-2022 but health had to come first absolutely and while this is accurate it also sucks no question
Henrik Lundqvist is one of the most underrated players in NHL history
blud what ppl lit called him the king
@@ljdevil7381 Its because He won Olympic gold with Sweden lmao
Underrated?
That's a good joke!
Bro when I saw that Price injury again I literally shed a tear. 😢
Lundqvist was certainly more consistent but the number of goalies who are better than peak Price is a short one, his Vezina season was unreal
I think they both deserve to be in the hof for carrying those teams. The only difference off the top of my head is a pretty big one named Chris Kreider. I didn't watch much of Hank, but Price really turns it on for the playoffs
Yes I know kreider is not completely to blame
I'm a lifelong leafs fan but price has been my favorite goalie for a long time
I am Leafs fan, too. To me it always was The King. :)
Hasek brought me to the NHL. (I am European and startet with this soccer crap. 1998 I saw the Winter Olympics and became instand Hasek fan)
CuJO is the reason, I cheer for the Leafs. (He is my idol! He was the first name on one of my jerseys.)
Kipper has made me look a Goalie in disbelief.
Rask was the phantom that hunted me/us for his whole career.
Lundquist was the one, who remembered me of Hasek, dont know why, playstyle is very different.
And todays NHL has the 3 Russian dudes, who outshine everyone. xD (Sorokin, Vasy and Igor)
I never clicked with Price... Maybe because he never had a stellar performance as I was watching...
Theres a banging video to be made when comparing the careers of the NHL's top 4 winning goaltenders, all from the same province Brodeur, Roy, Fleury and Luongo
I actually like that idea a lot
1:05 He forgot to mention that Price had just left his struggling boy band.
Great work keep it!
Phenomenal video. Good job
Freakin' brilliant idea , thumbnail and video! Really enjoyed this.
Thank you!
Great video. I appreciate you making it
Thanks for watching!
I was a goalie when i was a kid and I always admired Price! Thank you for making this video, it means a lot.
Amazing dedication and talent in both goalies. Look at those saves!!
Henry! the king of ny! when are we getting some swag from hectic hockey love this channel and all the work !
We’ll have a Shesty and Sorokin video like this in 15 years
Let’s hope they both find success though
thumbnail looks beautiful. Great video!
Thank you!
Both were my favourites growing up
Not a fan of Price or Lundquist, but as a hockey fan they both had incredible careers...
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Thanks man
Biggest difference?
The Habs had Halak & let him go...
Price & Halak were the tandem the Habs needed.
I'm not sure about that. As much as I know price was great, he never seemed at his best when he had competition from his backup.
@@philtess3126 In 712 games Price had a respectable 2.51 GAA & .917 SV % with 49 shutouts.
In 581 games Halak has a 2.50 GAA & .915 SV% with 53 shutouts.
This is a tandem every single team dreams of keeping long term.
I think it's pretty ludicrous to argue Price played better without competition from a back up, I think he simply had to.. If he didn't, who was the next goalie up?
@@enigmaticelectronicrecords they played together for 2 seasons. Don't use their entire career stats. Price had some of his worst seasons when he played below 50 games, posting under. 910 save percentage (which isn't bad but still sub par if you compare it to his entire career). It's not that hard to understand that some goalies need to play regularly to keep their "mojo". It's much harder to stay consistant when you're playing once a week instead. Plus, it's harder to take mentally that whenever you make an error you get replaced the next game. Less margin for error
Don't forget that price had his biggest year when he had tokarski as a second.
@@philtess3126 Why wouldn't I use their career stats in a "what could have been" scenario?
They played together for 3 in MTL, that's not including their time in Hamilton of the AHL :)
Some goalies can play regularly to "keep their mojo", but how did over playing help Price in the long run?...
It's hard when you're getting replaced by random goalies coming in and out of the system, but not when you're getting replaced by a mate you've been sharing the net with for X amount of years in a team setting ..
They may not be 1st Ballot, but both of them are HHoF locks
Wrong (in the Trump voice) - both will be 1st ballot HHOFers
One thing they definitely had in common was the fact that bother their teams were terrible. If either the Habs or the Rangers had put even a semi competent team together, they would have won a cup.
i speak for every single habs fan when i say that carey deserves a cup more then anybody else, management let him down over and over again.
as a habs fan... ive always look out to the ranger for a model for my technical ability the King was for me the best of is ERA and Pricey 2nd
Can you do a video on Marc Andre fleury? He’s my favourite player and I think he’s definitely a hall of famer
I’ll look into it
@@HecticHockey he’s the goat imo
@@HecticHockey Theres a banging video to be made when comparing the careers of the NHL's top 4 winning goaltenders, all from the same province Brodeur, Roy, Fleury and Luongo
One of the best goalie that ever played the game, the other was Corey Price
@HecticHockey - you forgot to mention both of their Olympic Gold Medals as the starter
Would have been interesting to see the end of Fleury's career if it wasnt from those 2 similar incidents (being traded away from Pitsburgh because he had great value and they tought Murray was their future, and being traded away from Vegas because he still had value and they thought Lenher was the man)...
I think that without all that he would be considered as great as the 2 others.
3 cups, and a similar 'carry the team on my back' finals appearance with VGK. The Flower can't be ignored either.
the disrespect to not put rinne in this video, he is just as similar as there to goalies when it comes to skill, leagacy, and the impact they had on their team and league
Price and Lundqvist had garbage teams in front of them.
Rinne had arguably the best defens ein the league in front of him, and good two-way forwards as well.
Rinne truly started his career when he was like 26, because while Price and Lundqvist were drafted at 18 and thrown in the net short after (especially price) in front of the fans of 2 of the craziest markets (the pressure..), Rinne was barely making the cut in Ligaa. Only after 3 miserable seasons there he was able to have a great one a get drafted in 8th round as a 21 years old. He then spent 4 more seasons before finally getting in front of an actual NHL net for real.
All that to say, if Rinne had developped fast enough for it to make sense to put is name in the same sentence with Carey Price and Henrik Lundqvist, he would have ended up in front on an NHL net at 20, and since at 20 he had 3GAA and sub 900 eff in Ligaa, that would have been the end of his career. His entry level contract would have expired while he would have been a back up in the AHL or in the east coast league, and no other team would have signed him. He would have wend back to Europe like many, and that's it.
So in fact, he was really lucky to be a late bloomer. That way he was able to have his entry level contract during his prime and secure himself a career with a great team in front of him.
Oh, and also... Both Price and Lundqvist literally carried their respective team on 2-3 deep playoffs run. And when I say carried, I mean they each boast even better stats in playoffs career, than regular season career. While Rinne's playoffs stats were below his regular season stats, and he will be unfortunately remembered for being the guy who consistently fumbled the ball for nashvile during playoffs. Because what all those stats don't tell is that Rinne in playoffs would pull a goaltending clinic out of his bag, only to get pulled the next game because he was awful.
Those are all the reasons in my opinion, for why Rinne's name should never be included with the 2 others.
I really dislike how people sometimes say there careers were "wasted" because we need to realize not everyone can win the cup and the cup is actually a team award not individual and we are talking about these guys as individuals. These 2 men individually have had many other accolades like Vezinas, Olympic gold medals, etc and at least they went to the Stanley Cup Final at least once cause even just going to the final and being the runner up is just as honorable as the winner. These things have made them Hall of famers first ballot absolutely and obviously one of the top goaltenders of not just the 2010s but all time really. These 2 were ofc one of my biggest idols growing up and I am saying this cause people have a lot of misconceptions about both.
When it comes to nhl careers these two players had theirs wasted. It’s a fact. Very little playoff success and poor management didn’t allow these two goalies to prosper. Obviously not everyone can win the cup but when two of the greatest goalies ever only had one Stanley cup appearance each is a travesty.
you don't need cups to prosper. They flourished in all other ways. It isn't a travesty because they won olympic gold medals and vezinas and got to experience a Stanley cup final so it is NOT a travesty. Not everyone can win it unfortunately. The cup would cease to exist if everyone could since there wouldn't be enough room for names. There can only be one winner each year. It takes a team to win not just certain individuals.@@odeszaa
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as a rangers fan i will never forget 2014 lol
never.
@@HecticHockey brings back so many painful painful memories 😂
I still remember getting my heart broken that June like it was last week, watching game 5 at like 6 am (I'm from Germany) and seeing that OT goal literally sucked the life out of me 😶
@@The_Punisher_969 i was only 13 so being allowed to stay up til the end of the games on a school night was a gift, then to watch everything unfold was just truly heartbreaking.
Kreider cheated your way to the final
If it wasn’t for Kriecer slide tackle Price would be the greatest keeper in history.
Crawford and Quick even though i always thought quick was vastly superior
Quick definitely had the upper hand on Crawford.
@@HecticHockey 2012 quicky was a different breed
Doesn’t every goalie have a chant with there name? Robin Lehner, Thomas Greiss, Semyon Varlomav, and Ilya Sorokin all have chants. Yes ik they are and were islanders but I only go to islander home games
Yes but Henriks was definitely special
Islanders & Rangers fans seem to chant their goalies' names more than most other teams; I remember the DP chants back in the mid-00s, too.
Tbf peak pryce never enjoyed the offenses hank did in 15-17. Pryce was shaky in 10-13 when the habs had okay to good offenses. After that they had good to bad. Outside of 07-09 hank rarely had an offense as poor as carey until 2018-20 when the tangers were rebuilding and hank was finished
Chris Kreider became the most hated man in Montreal in on may 17 2014
Montreal beats ny if price doesn’t get injured
Chris Kreider ruined Price
Kreider was tripped for sure
@@HecticHockey LOL
I was gonna say, that injury didn't just end the series against the Rangers, much more important than that. And as much as I'd like to believe that was a trip, the fact that he crashed multiple goalies during that time is telling me otherwise, injuring more than just Carey, come on now. I'm an Avs fan but no respectable Habs fan should forget this.
uuuhm... he played for rögle also....
3:34 - Nonsense. Price couldn't play because of health issues. However, Lundqvist's game fell off a cliff and he was relegated to an unreliable number two. This included abysmal play in the Hockey World Championships where he embarrassed himself in a Sweden jersey.
0 likes again. Literally nobody agrees or cares about you or your opinion.
I'm sorry but 2014 was the Canadiens' year for the cup
It was until kreider ran Corey price in game 1 of ECF
Montréal isn't the birthplace of Hockey brother...
1:55 - How is that relevant? The Vezina Trophy has nothing to do with the playoffs. It's based purely on NHL regular season performance.
Nobody asked for any corrections. How is your comment relevant to anything??? NOBODY CARES. 0 LIKES LITERALLY LMAO
@@milanek1527 This is a public forum.
My comment is relevant to the video, as it corrects a statement that is wrong.
You act like a twelve year old. You cared enough to comment.
''LMAO''
@@incumbentvinyl9291 Congrats, you commented about a mistake, thats so amazing! Maybe you should remember that this is the internet. Not a book or research study. Its just a video, and if it has a slight mistake, nobody cares because nobody will correct it and nobody will see your comment due to it having zero likes. Thats proof that Nobody cares.
Now listen, why did you even make that comment then? Was it so other people know about the mistake? Well guess what, the only person seeing your comment is me, and I was only able to see it due to me checking your comment history of your rants about things nobody cares about. If people liked you and wanted you to do this, they would like your comment. But they do not, clearly, so there is ZERO point in making that comment. Maybe you should get in contact with the owner of the channel. Not the public that DOESNT care.
@@incumbentvinyl9291 No this is not a "forum" this is a youtube comment section, where nobody cares about slight mistakes in videos. Because if people did care and found it interesting, there would be comments about slight mistakes under every video. Maybe you should go to an actual forum where you're supposed to correct mistakes bud.
@@incumbentvinyl9291 I am acting like a 12 year old, because the internet is just that. People acting like 12 year olds. Especially youtube comment sections. I'd rather be a 12 year old than a random person that sits all day and writes about small mistakes on videos and has zero likes and nobody cares about their efforts.
Advice: go somewhere where people want you to correct mistakes. Name me one person that cares about your comments other than you.
a King without a ring? Give me a break
It’s was a nickname given to him in NY early in his career…..
I'm a diehard Habs fan. I prefer Lundqvist . He was someone you can get behind. Funny, emotional, honest. He loved playing. I never got that impression with Price. Halak should have been the #1 goalie for longer.
Price auctally made the cup finals twice one with philly and the other one against tampa bay in 2020
Price has only ever played for one NHL team, and his only SCF appearance was with the Habs against the Lightning in 2021, not 2020
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Kreider is a digusting human being and every time I see this hit, it makes me upset. Kreider and Chara are both human trash.
😂What about Johnathan Quick? He won 3 Stanley Cup championships. Recently, J. Quick and A. Martinez won Stanley Cup with Vegas Golden Knights, 2022-2023. 😠🤠🤠🤠💩💩💩💩!
Lundqvist was the better goalie despite them having similar stats Price still got better offensive weapons in front of him in Gallagher and Weber and Nash fell off when he went to New York both had amazing careers though and I’d take either of them on my team any day
Rask>
Is better than some, but not these two, correct.
In the last 20 years, neither one of them should or would be considered the best.
2 losers who had 1 good run each
Chris Osgood should be considered elite then by your standards.
Who's better than them over the last 20 years then?
I mean Hasek was still going strong
@@macrost8935 Brodeur, Fleury, someone else mentioned Hasek.....
@@trichotillomaniac1959Fleury? You’re joking. Worse play on better teams.
Fleury is better than overrated and overpaid Lunqvist and Price
Fleury is the most overrated goaltender of all time
Why cant he win a cup with any other team than prime Pittsburgh? oh right he cant bear the workload.
Shuuuut up.
@@janzkee He brought Vegas to a Stanley Cup Final as an expansion team
@@MarkD699fleury is Overrated AF LMFAOOOOOOO had Crosby, malkin and Kearny in front of him carrying the team. Who cares if he wasn’t to a cup with Vegas cause he didn’t carry the team, the team it’s self came together and started playing well at the right time. Lolllll
@@llllllll153 Fleury was 0.927 during that Stanley Cup run with Vegas
Luongo had had a very similar career to the two but is better than lundqvist and has played on far worse teams except for the few years in Vancouver.