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Watch and listen to how a client with no woodworking skill set, no tools, and no idea on how to proceed, built a quality listening room under our supervision that performs at the designed for specifications and looks more professional than studios we have seen that cost 10 times as much.
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I don't know if listening rooms are supposed to be a little more lively compared to mixing rooms? but there is Definetly a short slap back thing happening. Sounds like he was primarily focused on the bass problem, which is a great place to start..but maybe put a rug down or add more Absorbtion? Maybe he ran out of $.. idk but It's like i can hear the wood
Reverberation times are subjective. Wood is a good material type to hear.
Interesting idea about the floating wall. There is definitely a lot of pressure to be dealt with in that small volume room. Interesting concept how the walls can move and flex.
very inspiring build, now that's commitment
B, Yes, what a joy to work with someone who really gets it and is committed to sonic success.
Great video 😀👍
L, Thank you for your support. A follow-up video will be coming on Phase 2 where we treat the remaining issues with our carbon technology.
Really nice aesthetics and great craftsmanship. This took a lot of dedication and someone who believed in the fruits of their labor. Also, effective professional guidance 💯
Well said!
That room is definitely a smaller volume room at slightly over the 1500 ft3 mark and smack middle of the red zone. Should be an interesting challenge,, this should be interesting.
I only see finished product. Please show some construction techniques
The slats are doing some great scattering
Sound redirection is unpredicatble in its performance. It is also highly frequency dependent. Stay with predicatble and consistence when using acoustical tools.
For instance....the open cell foam and attachment. Do you make a membrane behind the back wall. Do you define the outer and inner envelopes somehow? Is the floor isolated?
B, What would be the purpose of a membrane behind back wall?
Looks like what I see in my dreams. I live an take care of my parents. Mom has Alzheimer’s, so my music / theater room is my bedroom. 16’x9’ and contains my whole life....
hey man im an audio engineer i may not be an acoustics expert but if you need help i can tell you ways to treat your room for cheap and have great results :)
I realize it's kinda randomly asking but do anyone know a good website to stream new series online ?
@Javier Zachariah I watch on flixzone. You can find it by googling =)
@Javier Zachariah I would suggest Flixzone. You can find it by googling :)
@@MacetazzOpinatell me how..please
Awesome room . #headphones
Looks very Nice! Well done and hope you will enjoy listening to your favorite music. Not sure how it will sounds as should not be able to “hear a room sound” in a treated room at all. When you talk i already hear the room so clearly that i cant believe it wont affect the sound..........
P, All rooms are a progression of tuning with technologies and materials. As you treat one surface area, another one comes into play because it now stands out because it is untreated or treated with the wrong material. Remember, room tuning is a process that involves time listening and adjusting. No one gets it right out of the gate.
Acoustic Fields you are right for sure! Needs tweaking and lots of adjustments step by step! But i just hear it so easily even after much treatment. My room is small and a bit dull at high end as its breakdown highs so easily. But having nice control at the low end makes me happy as more difficult. With the plans i have in the near future building a studio ground up we will be in touch for sure. Still some important things pending and could take two more years but its worth the wait. Cheers and thanks helping and advising people enjoying music as intended!
P, Wait until you get your own room!!!! Your life will change forever.
Acoustic Fields no doubt! Cant wait either hahahahaha. But still learning and slowly getting there. Cheers and keep up the Great work!
patrickalphenaar I recorded the video using my cell phone standing directly in the corner of the room. That add greatly to the reverberation that you hear. When in the listening position, the “room sound” disappears. It’s still a small room and it will always have a small room sound in some way or another, but wow what a dramatic difference from what it was like before the remodel. I feel like I finally hear the full potential of my system or at least pretty close to it. Thanks.
could you put difusion behind your monitors on the front wall?
It depends on your usage. Professional mixers use absorption on the front wall to avoid any possible phase issues that could result in not hearing everything in their mixes. They use diffusion on the rear wall to minimize the impact of rear wall reflections at the mix position. Diffusion front wall and rear wall for two channel listening is heaven. It will increase the resolution, separation of instruments and vocals, along with sound stage increase in size.
Won’t Sonacoustic (mineral wool plus cellulose spray) work better for the ceiling?
A, You must ask yourself "better compared to what noise issue. Material type, construction methodology, and material density are all frequency and amplitude-dependent.
Small room? That's huge by UK standards! Looks great 🙂
Small rooms have large low-frequency issues. larger rooms have large reverb issues. There is no escape. The room has us surrounded.
Absolutely not a small room. It’s actually allay perfect size minus the ceiling
You work with what you have and how much money you want to put into your room
Am I missing something or is this just about the wood? I didn't hear any details about the sound absorning materials or install details.
R, Re watch the video from the client. There are two.
Is this room acoustic treatment would also apply into music studio treatment? 🙏🏾
Some of it. Each usage has different acoustical requirements especially for middle and high frequencies.
Interresting that there is only bass absorbers in the front? I thought diffusors was the way to go there as well, since it's a listening room? :-) Or is this specific room just better without diffusors in the front, and it can so be in many other rooms as well? :-) Fantastic work anyhow and it looks great! Great impressive DIY job!
J, The front wall has our low-frequency technology built into it. On top of the carbon technology is our foam for middle and high-frequency management. Diffusion is another approach to use for the front wall and will be part of phase II of the tuning process. Remember that diffusers are a difficult build for someone with no carpentry skills.
@@AcousticFields Thanks for the reply. I bought your All in one DIY bundle. And I'm going to start to build the QD-diffusers. I will start with the backwall, but would they be ideal to also place in the frontwall? It's a music room just for listening. I'm also going to build the acoustic panels and the bass absorbers. The only problem with these two, is that the freight to sweden for your foam is quite expensive. I'm doing my research wether I can buy something "as good as" here.. or maybe I just need to take a deep breath and accept the expensive shipping (I do understand why it's expensive). :-) I have recently bought house insulation to make my own basstraps.. I do now understand that I should stop reading comments on forums that recommends things that will not work and help my problems. :-)
J, Our carbon technology ships from London. Shipping is cost effective. Send me your ship to address to info@acousticfields.com and I will obtain a carbon/freight quote for you. Our foam ships from the states. Forums are full of people just repeating the same mistakes that people have been living with for years. Our competitor's products are just boxes filled with building insulation. There is no new science in their technology and there hasn't been for the last 40 years. All you have to do is look at their performance to know they won't solve your low-frequency issues no matter what they say or how many units you buy. Their middle and high-frequency products over absorb. This is why their rooms sound dry and dead. I get calls every day from people who have purchased their products and are disappointed. One client told me that he thought the products were designed for noise management instead of for voice and music.
@@AcousticFields Thank you for the help! I think I also send you some images of the room and my thoughts about it. Hope you have time to give me some advice, so I really buy the right stuff from you. :-) I wish you a happy new year! :-)
J, Fill out the information in this link. Stand in room middle and shoot pictures of all 4 walls and ceiling. Attach to link. www.acousticfields.com/free-room-analysis/
How much is the carbon technology if I just want to buy some by itself to put in my DIY bass trap panels?
The carbon technology is 400.00 / BDA unit. The foam face is 75.00. Minimum DIY purchases is 8 units.
HVAC can wreak havoc if you don't take precautions.
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Building low frequency management into the walls is the highest and best use of space.
Can I ask what was budget for room?
All of the monies.
This is probably one of those "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" sort of projects. For the record... it would be my first question.
Great work. Perfect for an audiophile. But this is a bit much for music production.
Music production comes first then playback. The goal is to get as much of the room out of the way in both environments, so that both the mix and playback environments are more in synch with each other..
It's cool but overkill...the ceiling is not my cup of tea but everything else looks good.
It would be super interesting to hear music in this room and then compare that experience to a headphone setup of the same price range
D, There is no comparison for headphone vs room sound. They are so different in presentation value.
Acoustic Fields I don't know what presentation value means, but of course there are benefits to a room setup such as social listening (though there's only one chair in his room) and the fact that nothing needs to be attached to your head. I'd be just curious as to how I would experience the music disregarding everything else.
D, Headphones and room sound are completely different in their presentation. Rooms have volume and distance which produces a sense of space if done correctly. Headphones produce a sound that is contained and lacks space. Most headphones I have listened to have an image that is centered between your ears. It lacks openness and space. Secondly, the pressure levels produced by headphones are not healthy. Having a pressure producing source that fires directly into your middle ear and then seals the path to escape can never be good. Earbuds are another example of this abuse. I have never spent much time with headphones and I attribute my full range hearing at my age to that single issue. Let's take low-frequency energy as another example. In the rooms we design, you can actually feel the oscillation of low-frequency energy throughout the room. Since low-frequency energy is felt not heard, the foundation this effect has on the presentation cannot be duplicated with headphones. Most people have never felt this in their rooms. However, once felt, it is never forgotten. I know many mixing engineers that work with classical music which is low-frequency sensitive. They use headphones for spectral balance in their mixes but always play back in larger rooms to feel the impact of low-frequency in their mixes.
>Having a pressure producing source that fires directly into your middle ear and then seals the path to escape can never be good.
@@AcousticFields Would open back headphones help eliminate this issue?
These beautiful walls are now ruined I think 😥. Instead of glueing these huge absorbers to the walls, why not constructing a second wall parallel to the original walls without contact and destroying the wonderful wood?
Or, if this was not possible, please cover the black acoustic materials with nice pictures printed on acoustic linen.
U, The client did a good job of balancing aesthetics and performance.
may sounds good, but looks like cheap sauna room.
M, Opinions vary.