ARE HIGHER END PANAMA HATS REALLY WORTH IT?
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Maybe you’re looking at a $125 and a $200 model… okay.
Why spend more?
Let’s talk about it..
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Thanks for joining me.
I’m a hat salesman from NYC, working at JJ hat Center since 1994, and nine years before that at another shop..I’m trying to get everything I know about hats out there to you guys, so that it’ll help out some people and hopefully make their hat purchases go a little smoother. I’m happy to answer hat related questions or guitar related questions, this is HATS AND GUITARS!
Thanks for joining me on this journey, being a youtuber or the “hat guy” is a real pleasure when the viewers are so kind and amazing, (like you)
I’ve got a lot to say,I tend to go on tangents,and talk about many subjects at once..
I might stumble on a word here and there,
but I rarely edit anything out, so if u see me take a gulp of water, or walk off camera,
I’ve chosen to leave that stuff in, to keep it real, unfiltered and interesting..
So on that note..
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Kevin
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I am by nature obsessed with tiny details. When I saw the 2 weaves side by side it was mesmerizing the fine detail of the weave of the better hat. I'd definitely go for that if I was buying a good straw hat. Thanks for sharing. 👍☮️🌞🌟🎸🚴♀️🌵🐾
Yeah, I get that,
there’s a real beauty to craft like that, I’m the same way..it’s like Hershey bars vs a Godiva truffle,
they’re both good, but one is just more good.
@@quadrogong1111 I personally like everything that is more good. ✅
Hello Greg, Fernando from Ecuador. We make these beautiful master pieces that are known as Panama hats, the real name is Toquilla hat, the bleach ones are made in Cuenca, one of our cities, the one that was shown on your video, isn’t I’m afraid a great sample of what a fine Toquilla hat is. If you visit my country I would be happy to take you to a factory at no cost of course, and tell you more about it. Cheers 😊
Nice analogy with the Telecaster. As a hat wearing guitarist I could totally relate.
Thanks JJ, it's always fun and educational to watch your videos.
Thank you, I really appreciate the comment Delta! Have a great holiday weekend. Kev
Hey Kevin I was waiting for you to do a review on the Bogart straw hat. You answered all of the questions that I had. Thank you so much. Very good!!👍👏👏
Same quality and straw and the classic Panama,and pioneer. Same features and reinforcements, bogart is a more square in the crown,and nostalgic crown, wider band and slightly larger brim…the classic Panama is more elegant and clean, simple. Same quality, slightly different styling.
Hi Kevin, Greg here in California....
Nice to see you took a chance on a budget Tele.
I had a pedal board made from a guy near Fresno.
When I went to his house, I found a dark brown Tele in a heap of garbage. The guy made it in high-school and he was throwing it away.
Well I just couldn't let that happen so he told me to take it.
I put a chunky 50s style boat neck from wormath done in roasted maple with a skunk stripe .
That think is a killer player.
I can't believe I've actually had a couple of guys who played it offered me mony for it.
Thanks for the show , I'm really digging it.
Great comment, I appreciate you taking the time to tell me,thanks, great story. I have a video of this cheapass tele I got,Indonesian Squier! It was $129 brand new! The first run of FSR Bullet Teles, sea foam green.. it sounded freakin monstrous, like the most perfect, raunchy overdrive.. totally stock. Ironically, it was going straight through my Marshall DSL40C which is not made in England, it’s made in.. you guessed it.. Indonesia czcams.com/video/vjifn1QCB3k/video.html
I've been waiting for the classic panama in the toast color to be restocked at JJ's..just 4 a beater!
Same goes for that tele...perfect for a beater or a project guitar to throw my spare hot rail pickup in!!!👍
You can probably email them and ask if they can order u one piece, the company is in NY,it’s local. And they ship overnight, let them know u have been waiting,and can they order one from Capas for you... should be no problem, if u make a request, it should be fine, I think
Very good information on this video. Thank you
Thanks Roger, have u a shout out on tonight’s video, I always appreciate your support and viewership, thanks ! Have a great weekend. Kev
I got one of the Glarry Strats and it’s awesome. The free shipping that you get in the States would have really made for a killer deal. But I found one at a shop in Oregon and it was 20% off so that made up for the cost to ship to Canada. It’s a really good guitar and I especially like that it’s as light as a feather. About a 5.5 lb feather. I also bought a Harley Benton Strat and it’s also good and cost about $50 more than the Glarry.
Good to know, thank you. I’ve had very good luck so far w Glarry, it arrived flawless, playing ok from the box.
my tele was light too just under 7 lbs,
is your neck slim on the Strat? The tele neck is quite chunky
I bought my first Panama 2 days ago: Stetson "Solano" ... love it! 🤠👌
Wear it in good health! 😊
Awesome video
So the Stetson lenox is a classic panama because of the center crest ? Loving it. Getting the sweat bands when i get paid Friday. Think make it even better being a tad tighter, so don't have to worry bout it blowing off.
Yes, that’s gonna take care of it, u can trim them down to really fine tune your size, too
The value of such things also relates to the person who may buy it.
I never ever thought that at anytime in my life would I pay four hundred dollars for a hat. But now I know I would pay more to get exactly what I want. That is why I say value also depends on the potential buyer as much as it does the hat.
I have a bit more money than I used to have but the big change is my own values.
You're a mellow fellow.
Hey Kevin, great video! I ordered the Graham panama in bleach a few weeks but it was too small so I returned it, it was 75$. I like the bleach but I think it looks better on woman more feminine my opinion. I ended up getting the Borsalino Firenze at 25% sale it was 335$ got for 235$ and I am glad I upgraded and got on sale this hat is beautiful a piece of art. I was going to ask you about the snap brim but in this video you went right to it and showed me how to fix the snap, your the man! Ok, my hair kind of gets pulled when I take it off is there anything to help it from getting pulled or pinched on the inside when I take off? I like your hats on the wall looks good! Thanks for all the time you put into your videos Kevin!
Thanks for the compliment! Uh, yeah, assuming it’s the inside of the crown, u can fix it..
if there are some loose pieces of straw inside, it’ll snag your hair sometimes, find the area inside the crown that’s snagging your hair and cover it with a sticker or some white medical adhesive tape will cushion it.. use the tape for another purpose too..
you can write your name and phone on the tape in case it gets lost,so a Good Samaritan can return it to you. If you leave it in a cab,or restaurant, the only way it’ll be returned is if u have your number or email on it. Always a good idea.
I purchased a Pessaro based off of this video. One thing I was unsure of is of the Pessaro came with a reinforced sweatband and crown. I requested that feature in the comments of the order.
Well, u can’t actually really request it, either it was manufactured with it or not. But don’t worry,
Im pretty sure it has all those features though, It’s been over a year since I’ve seen one, but I’m pretty sure,
that’s a high grade Panama,. You’ll love it,
Wear it in the best of health
…Kev
Hey Kev would you go for a hemp Asher or a Panama?
Videos just get better and better. Love my Taupe Seville thanks to your recommendation.
My pleasure, hmmm, hemp Asher for durability,and it’s just a cool look.. the panama is more elegant, it’ll go dressy too..a little bit lighter weight, and it is also less durable,
That’s tough, I own both and love both. I’d say..a Panama is really, really cool. as long as u aren’t getting it wet at all. It’s amazing. I’d choose Panama. But they’re equally as cool, tough one. do u look better in a shorter brim or long brim? maybe the Panama,I really love a Panama
My Borsalino Palermo is arriving today from JJ's. For some reason I have this expectation that Panamas are super delicate so I'm curious to see how robust it seems. Of course, I'll treat it super carefully, but I do intend to wear it!
Not really, no rain,no swimming,you’ll be fine. They’re no fragile, there is one typical that people do that wears them out prematurely, that’s grabbing it by the pinches..
So keep the hat upside down all the time, in the box, or on a shelf,or tabletop. That way u pick it up by the brim, not the pinches. Even when I set it down for a minute, set it upside down, you’ll be fine. The Panama I showed in my video yesterday was over 12 years old,and it still looks perfectly new…and that’s after many,many summers of wearing it, just do what I said, you’ll get a lot of years out of it.
@@quadrogong1111 Great, thanks Kevin. One more thing. I'm finding it a little snug. It fits, but there's no wiggle room. Is it possible/feasible to stretch a Panama? I reckon a half size would be better.
I have several straw hats and man do they help protecting from the sun and keeping cool! Good vids thanks!!
Thank you!!
Great video. I love these types of videos. I am wondering what do you prefer a flat cap from Ireland or from any were else? I want to get one from Hanna hats but I want to know if I buy one off of amazon will it feel vintage?
We sell tons of nice caps, the Hannah stuff is extra thick and bulky, like an Irish sweater..they’re warm and wintery. Also Jonathan Richards makes some of the most elegant Irish caps around. Amazon sells everything, u can get real crap. Or u can buy a $500 Borsalino felt hat.. they sell a wide range of stuff,I don’t know about Amazon.. we have all kinds of caps,
If I are talking about a warmer cap, then the Irish caps are the best,,the bulkiest and they last forever,
I prefer Jonathan Richards Irish caps over Hannah personally, I think the Hannah styles are less modern, they’re a bit wide for my taste,
If u want something lighter, then the Stetson line is gorgeous, they’re made in Europe and very stylish, we sell one called the silk and. Cashmere Ivy rom Stetson that’s probably my favorite cap of all time, it’s a lighter weight,good for many seasons, and they appear like herringbone, but they’re not wool, they’re silk and cashmere, very flowing, gorgeous looking fabric, the way it drapes and feels is just incredible, everyone who wears them loved them and goes back to buy more colors..
www.jjhatcenter.com/products/the-silk-and-cashmere-ivy (Here it is)
I’d say that’s my favorite..made in Germany by a very,very old factory, they are just perfect..hard to capture the softness and silliness of the fabric online,but these are incredible..if u like a lighter, medium weight cap. Otherwise, I like the Jonathan Richards caps, esp the Snap Driver, it’s one of the only caps that uses a plastic visor,rather than cardboard, which extends the life of the cap..and allows u to hand wash it too, the snap driver is Irish, so it’s a heavyweight cap ,like the Hannah stuff, just more streamlined in my opinion,
Thank you for the info it is really helpful. One day I will have to go to the store because I watched almost all of your videos surrounding it but I wanted a pros opinion.@@quadrogong1111
Nice guitar playing.
Wow, thank you! I have my good days and bad days,,depends when u get me, thanks for taking the time to compliment me, that’s real cool, ☺️ thx! Kev
I dig the Bogarts, I got 3, ye be warned though, the blue one is almost purple, the grey one has a bluish tint, almost mauve, and the 3rd color, toast, is is pretty cool.
The grey ones were turning a little pinkish with u.v.. sunlight etc. I think we stopped ordering them. The navy ones are all different, some have a little indigo purple color, some didn’t. They were all completely different, some were deep navy, others more purple navy.. Panama straw doesn’t take dyes that well, to be honest, generally most of the colored straws are Milan or hemp, or sisol,other straws.. but u are exactly right, the BLEACHED, the NATURAL and the TOAST are on the money, no issues at all w color. The black ones were black, but not the darkest black,
It’s tough w Panama, the dyed ones all look good at first, but they react to UV light differently, some colors fade in an odd way. I think it’s an issue with almost my colored/dyed Panama, except the toast because they use a very thin, transparent dye on the toast. Good advice, though. That’s an amazing hat, I like to stick with the natural, myself. I think they’re the nicest variety of all the bogart panamas. Thx. Kev
Thanks for these comments. And video. Just ordered the toast bogart. Benji has it on back ordered list. So whenever the shipment comes in. But these comments and video makes me happy knowing it's a good choice. I have a Stetson Panama. But think I'll like this wider brim. And idk. I like seeing the weave lol. Plus the nostalgic look is a plus too me as well for a Panama. Loving the 40 style my stratoliner has. Women love it too hahaha.
Hi Kevin, very articulate and informative video, thank you...well, if I eat chocolate it will definitely by the Godiva never ever Hershey. I've thought about the Panama hat for a month and yesterday i did make the purchase of the classic by Capas but after this video I think i made the wrong decision and will exchange for either the Palermo or the Pesssaro. I've been fighting about the natural and the bleach but I must go on your recommendation, you know hats and if you can really feel the difference that's where I want to be the extra money isn't a consideration....So the question is Capri Pessaro vs Borsalino Palermo, I know the Pessaro has the brown band...the Pessaro does come in natural but I'm assuming the bleach is going to have the wonderful feeling you are speaking of....I suppose for some the tighter weave will be hotter on the head and that would be a consideration....So the Pessaro or the Palermo? Also I know the Pessaro is #8 straw what about the Palremo doesn't say on the website.
That grade 8 thing is created by one of the hat companies, it doesn’t mean much,,there’s no standardized system, the grade 8 bleached is very nice,soft..the grade 8 natural is not as noticeably better.. it’s nice, but not “twice the price of a Capas Classic” nice.
The Borsalino Palermo is not the finest weave really, you’re paying more for the styling and just the quality of a Borsalino Panama,the weave is not particularly fine. But it is a gorgeous,gorgeous hat, this is tough.. the Palermo in bleached will feel very nice, expensive, soft, fine.. in natural it will look very close to the Borsalino, minus the Italian styling. It’s a tough one, Me? Personally? I’d go with the Borsalino simply because it looks gorgeous. It’s brand new stock, just left Italy recently. While the other models that are on sale have been in the basement for 3 years or so, which is why they’re half price.
It’s so tough to say, because the quality is so similar, but there’s not a bad choice there, any of those will be very,very nice,
(I know , I’m not helping) uh.. the Borsalino is going to have the most elegant cut and overall look. It’s like buying Armani,or Mercedes Benz, you’re getting the best designers on the planet, and it’ll look like a million dollars.
The grade 8 stuff is super soft and fine..but only in the bleached,
The natural or the tan colored ones will be only slightly finer than the Capas Classic Panama.
For me, I’d go w the Borsalino if u want a really knockout,elegant natural Panama.
If you want something that looks and feel soft, and very fine,squishy and not crunchy..go with the bleached grade 8 stuff. Especially on sale,
it’s gonna look and feel like a $300 + weave,and last very long. The natural is nice,too. But the bleached is the standout for me.
Those are the two I like a lot, the bleached Pessaro or the natural Borsalino. If there’s a sale now, maybe just get the Borsalino.. there’s really nothing like owning one, once u start getting compliments on it..it makes u aware of just how elegant it is.. I’d say, if u can afford to get the Borsa, it’s spectacular looking, it doesn’t have the fine, soft, squishy,feeling of a grade 8 bleached Panama…but remember, the finer the weave, the less air circulation there is, so the Borsalino will feel the coolest,lightest.. and probably look the best of all of them. I’d go Borsa if u are going natural. Unless u want to save a little money, then do the classic by Capas.
But yeah, owning a Borsalino is like owning a Gibson Les Paul,or a gold Rolex..it’s something special that you’ll cherish for a long time,
If you’re really looking for something special, my customers have been really happy w the Borsalino..it’s beautiful. I’d go for it, personally..especially if there’s a sale.
They’ll disappear very quickly,and we can’t reorder them, they take a half a year to have custom made. So once we run out, that’s it. Hope this rambling rant helped!
@@quadrogong1111 Thanks so very much for the time and effort so kind...no surprise you would say Borsalino, I'm a bit confused when you say the natural borsalino, you mean the Palermo right, that is bleached the Firenze is the natural borsalino...so your first choice is the Borsalino Bleached Palermo, right? The sale is 20% on everything in the store, not seeing anything 50% except the back room which is mostly small stuff, i did buy my wife a ken in the back room....thanks so much for your help.
@@joebruhin2098 YES! so sorry, I type these comments so quickly, that was a total type O, I meant bleached,but wrote natural..yes! Good call, you called me out on that one! Nice.
yes. You will absolutely LOVE it, there’s nothin, NOTHING,like a Borsalino..and when u feel that straw,the weight, the elegant styling.. it’s like you’ve got the real deal.
If u can afford it, it’s way,way nicer. I’d always go w the bleached Borsa panamas,
even over the 1500 monticristi finos.In my opinion, those are as nice as it gets. The 1500 natural finos aren’t as flexible or nearly as lightweight, to me I can appreciate the workmanship, but I’d take a palermo or Verona any day over one of those thousand dollar things,they’re way too hot for me, I probably shouldn’t say that, but it’s true.
Those bleached Borsa shave always been my favorite, u can watch,y videos fro, 7 years ago, I said the same thing. Great choice,
@@quadrogong1111 Thanks Kevin, so appreciate your efforts here, take very good care.
You too!
Hey Kevin what brand is that on the video? I’m looking for my 1st panama… thanks
The one I’m handling is over ten years old, it was custom made for JJ hat center by a company that’s now defunct. The ones I’m showing in the little window are made by Tesi,Italy. We have a lot of our panamas custom made for us, we design them, and companies will build them for us.. we get a whole new array of new panamas every year from many brands,Borsalino make some nice stuff , they all arrive by May first, some arrive in late April
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Kevin, what about the VERY expensive Panamas? Over $1000? Brent Black goes up to at least $25,000! What’s the advantage? Just curious. It’s not like I have that kind of money. 🙃
It’s like artwork, no advantage, just rare. They apblock more sun, but they also get hotter,no airflow. It’s a Status thing,
Random question is 4x wool good material
Impossible to answer that, it depends. If u mean a Stetson western? Maybe it’ll be fine, those are thick like crazy.
but in general,I’m not a fan of wool felts unless it’s crushable litefelt, so,e of the heavy westerns from Stetson are okay, but mot nearly as good as a fur felt. Most likely it’ll be fine, but it’ll also be hard,very stiff.. and you won’t get 20-30.40 years out of it like a 100% fur felt Stetson. If you’re talking about an off brand, it can be anything, good or bad. The term “4x” means absolutely nothing, it’s marketing bullshit, wool is wool. I’d suggest going with fur felt, but if it’s a price issue..and u want to go with a wool felt western, expect it to be very stiff.
Hey Kevin, im having some trouble getting a hat from the store. I placed an order for a hat in stock, but then got an email saying it was a way smaller size. I really could use your help man, im not sure what to do and i need your expertise. Is there a way i can get in touch with you?
U got an email saying it was a smaller size? I’m mot sure I understand, ok, I’m not really in touch w the store that much these days, they send me a lot of customer emails and stuff, but that’s it. What u need to do it CALL.. don’t email. There’s one guy handling dozens of sales and calls and emails, Benji, and he’s got way too much on his plate,
Just call him, and find out the deal. 800 622 1911. The holiday hours are
Sat 7/3 : 11am - 6pm
Sun 7/4 : Closed
Mon 7/5 : Closed
Tues 7/6 : 11am - 6pm
Call them during business hours, give them 15-20 min in the morning.. so the mail order is setup, computers are on etc.. talk to Benji. He’s the nicest, most selfless person there is.. awesome person, he’s the mail order guy, you can send me emails through the store info@jjhatcenter,com and they forward it to me. or just tell me what happened here, it’s faster, I, mot sure I understood what u meant.. but yeah, don’t email, call them, there’s also a 212 number of toll free is busy, 212 239 4368
he’s a really good guy,and works his balls off, if anything can be done, he will bust his butt to get it done and make u happy. Trust me on this. but emailing is slow,
talk to Benji, if u have a problem, let me know. Kev
@@quadrogong1111 ya it wasnt something they could fix, and youre right Benji is awesome. He did offer to try and resize it, but he said it is most likely too far of a stretch. They told me you dont work there anymore, and it took all the wind outa my sails man. I have to say, they did try and fix it for sure, but it really couldnt work out in my budjet. Major bummer.
U can’t really stretch hats, it doesn’t work, that’s why I’m always saying buy stuff large and pad it down, even if u successful stretch it, they look like crap, the brim won’t lay right, the only true fix is taking it apart,and totally remanufacturing the hat in a larger size, then u lose a ton of brim size..and it’s a shorter brim. Plus it costs a bundle.
I don’t think I can do much either, stretching is for like a quarter of a size, half a size..tiny little stretches work.,that’s it, I still work there, but I’m on hiatus, I’m still on unemployment benefits, until September. I’m planning on coming back part time in autumn if all goes well.
Never, ever buy a hat small or even a tad small,hoping it’ll stretch on it’s own , they really don’t. Not the type with the leather sweatband inside, there’s a Reed in there that purposely stretches temporarily and then contracts, that’s it purpose, to always return the hat to the same round shape,when u crush it slightly,
Hats don’t really stretch..and if they do manage to stretch enough, the brim will be all wonky. buy your stuff on the larger side and pad them down, get a little weather stripping, out a 5” piece under the sweatband, in back.. I use 3/8” width poly foam weather seal, Amazon or Home Depot
Which hat is this called?
That's a ten year old model,long since discontinued
it's similar to the Vera Panama,same shape
I think Gumby scared off..or something Miss Rainbow bear!
I’m embarrassed to say, miss rainbow bear is on my bed, I must admit..I sleep with stuffed animals on occasion, (don’t tell the fellas though, ok?)
@@quadrogong1111 LOL
Late to the party 😁
S’cool my brovah.. keep on truckin
Hot fun in the summertime. 😊🎸🎶👍
@@dkstott29 Dave! Gave u a shout out on tonight’s video. I hope u have a really nice holiday weekend, my man..take care of yourself,
peace and love, Kev