@@RealMTBAddict In the US it's considered breaking and entering if you remove that lock yourself and the owner of the rental place can have you charged and arrested if you're caught or admit to doing it not saying this person is from the US just what the law in the US is I should know one of my friends was arrested for doing it.
Actually not the worst idea. If it is YOUR lawyer, he or she will tell you how to proceed from there. Lawyers need to know exactly how much trouble you got yourself in to tell you how to make the best of your situation. Unless you are a orange baffoon trying to get your lawyers to commit crimes FOR you, showing evidence to your lawyer before it is shown to a court is a good idea. There are good reasons why correspondence with your legal council is heavily protected.
Why tho, yes its not brilliant what he has done, but not for that reason. Like a random lawyer won't get anything out of snitching on you. Doing a fellony is still to be avoided, but lawyers ain't working directly for the government, so they wouldn't persue you. For that you would have to send to a police officer or somebody similar.
@@christophedlauer1443lol I find it funny how people manage to bring trump into everything, and every conversation, please can you tell me how many times a day lol do u blame trump for any problems your having, how many times a day do u mention trump, or manage to blame trump for something, are you able to go 1 day without mentioning trump or blaming him for something.
I was at a storage unit with my mom when the manager mentioned these locks and said they’re harder to cut. I said “well how thick is the door, couldn’t you just cut around it?” He said, “don’t get smart,” and after a pause he smirked and admitted, “the easiest way is with a crowbar.”
Ah I've gotten one of these locks. They mistakenly put this lock on my locker when I was renting a storage unit. Not only did they put the lock on my unit, but they also took pictures of everything in my unit so they could auction it off. It was 2 days away from auction. I checked my locker monthly. Turns out, the guy next to me was the actual unit that hadn't paid their bills. From my understanding, if they sold my stuff, they'd say "Oops. That sucks for you." Never renting a storage locker ever again.
If they sold your stuff, you could make up anything having been in there, and sue them for it. I would say there was a baseball card collection valued at $5 million. Then I'd sue for treble damages.
He specifically argued the legality of bypassing that lock after it has been used to seal off a unpaid locker. Just the lock by itself, which you can propably just buy somewhere, has no legal repercussions to being picked at all.
@@theduckmenace I'm not really sure. I'm no lawyer by any means, but that seems like a bit of a stretch. For starters, I think he was operating under the assumption that the lock was stolen and was not told explicitly. Furthermore, LPL pledged to send the lock back the following day, a perfectly reasonable decision. I also doubt tampering is appropriate as the definition of tampering something is to interfere with it in order to damage or make alterations to it. LPL is an experienced professional, obviously, so no damage is done to the lock.
I can only assume we'll see that classic drug PSA play out in the courtroom at some point. "You've broken into ten houses in a week! Who taught you to pick so many locks?!" "YOU! I learned it from watching you!"
@@woodzyfox4735 Except he's not guilty. He didn't knowingly receive stolen goods. They were mailed to him, he then identified them as stolen, and is returning them. You have to prove intent for a charge regarding receipt of stolen goods to stick, and he definitely did not intentionally receive stolen goods.
@@woodzyfox4735 : Guilt requires wanting to own the stolen property. LPL clearly states he's sending it back, i.e. that he is refusing the stolen property.
I was a military man most of my youth... got into Rangers, and we were learning breaching methods. Now, let me preface this next part with this- Rangers are fire and forget spec ops. You send Rangers when you need something or someone to change their status to past tense. That being said, someone in my group had the bright idea to ask- "what if we're trying to be quiet?" to which someone else answered "hope you can pick the locks". My buddy looks at me and says "Link can do it". I've been quiet this whole time because i hate having the spotlight on me. Sergeant asks, "can you pick this lock?" "Probably" "I got 5 says he can't" "I'll double that says he can" ... took me 3 seconds, because i had to sell it to them, since they left the damn door unlocked. 🙂
Couple months ago, I locked myself out of my apartment. It was after hours so it would have been $20 for maintenance to come let me in. Luckily, I had my work truck key and that's where my lockpick set was! 😁 Watching LPL was about to save me $20! ....nope, tried for 20 minutes and then gave up and called. I need to practice more lmao
Mine said they were going to charge me 150 because they have a old dead bolt on my door that automatically locks if a tiny switch is flipped nope up the fire excape I go to get in the windo
It doesn’t take a genius to know you shouldn’t steal the manager lock from a storage unit, never mind confess to the crime to an actual lawyer, but it’s still nice to hear him call out the behavior. A lot of people apparently need the reminder.
Because of the 'possession of burglary tools' laws, I checked with my local PD before ordering a pick kit years ago. Cop was surprised cuz he hadn't had someone ask before, but thought it was cool I checked. Basically said unless I was doing something that would net me charges in the first place, there was no problem with having them or carrying them.
There are a lot of laws like that. Like wearing body armor during the commission of a violent felony. There's absolutely no incentive to follow that law if you are already going to be commiting a violent crime. But if you do it, they'll add that charge and get you even more time.
IIRC, here in Canada, the law says something in the vein of "non-locksmiths aren't allowed to have picking tools in their possession outside their homes".
My understanding has always been that lock picks, and Jimmy bars and so forth are considered burglary tools in the context of committing a crime or in the context of being under suspicion or as the basis of suspecting you of a crime. In other words, you can't be arrested for having them, but it raises suspicions and offers police a basis to search you or investigate further, etc.
@@mikew3194yeah, I feel like that is part of the overall strategy behind those kinds of laws. It strongly encourages people to take a plea deal when they're suddenly hit with a literal mountain of obscure charges. People still get convicted for the essentials, but you've wasted far less money on litigating it. Plus, as someone else said, it works for giving the police valid reasons to search you and investigate deeper without needing warrants. (Not arguing for - or against - the morality of this, just sharing an observation.)
It's interesting that removing the lock is a felony in the US whilst in my country placing that lock is a felony. The renter has the right to remove that lock even when having missed a payment.
Here in Sweden, for a storage space its not a crime to place such a lock, BUT you cannot auction off the unit because the renter failed to pay. What you have to do, is to have a authorized baliff go through the space, and then the items that are for the failed payment are sold off. The rest of the items must be returned to renter. So if the missed payment is 100$, and the items are worth 1000$, you can only auction one item at a time until you receive 100$, the rest must be returned to renter. If one item exceeds 100$, for example, if its a motorcycle that was sold for lets say 1000$, then you must pay the renter 900$. (leftover from sale). However, if you own the space (a house, or a box on your porch or your car), its a crime to place such a lock, AND a crime to remove it. Meaning, if you come home a day, to find a big padlock on your car, or house its illegal for you to cut the lock. You must go to a government agency called "Kronofogden" (baliffs) to have the lock legally removed. Same applies if you have a ongoing dispute about a property requiring it to be locked up, you can't just walk to someone else's house and put a lock, but you must go through "Kronofogden". And this is EXACTLY why its illegal to remove a lock that is on your property, even if that lock was illegally placed. They say: 2 crimes doesn't make 1 right. Because it could be "Kronofogden" that have applied the lock, you can't know, thus its always illegal to remove a lock you didn't place, even if you own the property. One instance where you are ALLOWED to put a lock on someone's elses property, is if the owner is deceased. Then you may put a lock on someone's property along with a sealed tag, to prevent relatives from meddling with their property until the will and all the legal things about the death have been successfully processed and its now time to distribute the inheritances. Such locks are rare and its usually only placed when there is a ongoing dispute among the inheritances. Its however not illegal to remove a lock that you own, but that someone else have disabled, thats why, in the case you have the right to seal someone's elses property for some reason, always put a new lock, don't use a "disable a lock" key or put stuff in the keyhole. That doesn't count and any locksmith will remove such things without a blink.
much of the law in the US is made to be as wide reaching as possible, most of it just isnt enforced. some estimates say the average US citizen commits 3 felonies per day. this is by design, and is set up to make it so the police can arrest pretty much anyone they want without reason, because they can probably find a reason to arrest them even if they just grabbed a random person off the street.
@dontmisunderstand6041 Not only the US, this ownership-above-all fundamentalism is quite common. But what is ownership, ans how beneficial is it? Ownership does NOT give the owner any rights he didn't already have, it just denies others those rights. Property is a negative invention ..Large parts of the planet became private property, meaning no longer free to use, live in, harvest from or even to be there. Achievement or a crime? In my country, theft is defined as "taking away anything that belongs - in part or entirely - to someone else, with the objective to make it his own.. With this "partly" addition, a lot of ownership is in fact legalized theft. Property is not a natural state of things. It is only justiffied for some very good reasons, such as "owner made the tool, grew the crops, built the house/ship" Rights nobody will deny. But what do we see? Ownership based on being the first to discover a place, an edible plant, (the first to claim it, really) Or on having ancestors who killed the other's ancestors, in case any dry surface on earth. Land ownership was a game changer. Not surpising, it is large scale theft. The real easons to protect owners so much, is that its base, exclusion, made some people very, very rich. That blinds msny@@dontmisunderstand6041
@@eyweiuaiA story that outrageous would definitely attract attention, though, which would give the sender a motive. It might have been enough to make LPL record a video of it specifically
In that case, may I suggest legal eagle instead for lock picking advice? Edit: Because some people can’t seem to figure it out, this is a joke, we come to a lock picking CZcams and get legal advice, therefore we go to a legal channel for lock picking advice.
Yeah, a corporate lawyer. Not a criminal one. He's not qualified here, which is why he made the idiotic statement of "at least 4 felonies" and pretending like it meant anything. This matter would never go above civil. But I'm not surprised that a corpo lawyer would omit facts to make themselves seem more competent and successful. You dipshits seem to think he's a magical unicorn that shits rainbows, when he's just a failed corpo lawyer with a hobby on CZcams now
@karlwithak. definitely not a lawyer. It's actually illegal to portrary yourself one with the intent of offering legal advice like this. A legitimate lawyer would be well aware that this situation depends 100% on jurisdiction. source: married to a lawyer so I get unlimited free legal questions
Because of this channel, I learned to lockpick. It took me a few weeks to get comfortable with the various common locks used today but, after a little practice, I got good enough to pick most locks within a minute or so. My wife was confused why I'd "waste my time" learning this skill. In the past few years, I've helped a couple of people get into their cars, helped numerous people with their padlocks they'd lost keys for, and helped several people get into their homes. I think the day I picked our own front door when we got locked out was when she finally admitted it's a useful skill to have.
Part of me does kind of want to see a scenario where the lock is picked, the unit emptied, the lock replaced and then the manager auctions off whats inside, only for them to open the door of an empty unit 😅😅
@@truthandreality4650 good and bad are relative in this situation. For example if you support capitalism then obviously what John did was bad and evil because he cheated a corporation out of getting money. If you don't agree with capitalism then John is morally in the clear and you might say sticking it to the big evil corporation. The only thing that's absolute here is that it's illegal but it's important to remember that legality doesn't define whether something is good or bad, it justifies that it's been outlawed as a punishable offense, something that lawmakers have become quite overzealous about in recent times.
Things that only happen on the internet: stealing a lock to send it to a lawyer that picks locks in his spare time for an audience of hundreds of thousands of people Edit: to people saying his audience is millions I know he has 4 million something subs I just went off of average views lol. Thanks for the likes though one of my top comments ever🙏
@@smackerlacker8708On behalf of their *clients*. That's part of the reason you'll often see the disclaimer "this is not legal advice", alongside "this does not form a client-attorney relationship". If you admit to anything prior to their accepting you as a client (especially if they decide not to take you on subsequent to that), then there is no confidentiality on that information.
It's a made up story by LPL for the sake of providing a narrative, which drives engagement. Nobody actually maliciously sent him a lock, in fact anybody can just buy these locks. You people should have enough media competence to understand that the story provided is fictious and only provided for entertainment.
Not gonna lie, I do have an appreciation for those who are clever enough to outfox 'authorities'. Once I parked my car in what apparently was a HOV only spot (there was no posted sign, and the paint on the asphalt was so faded that no reasonable person would've seen it), got what I needed out of a nearby store, only to find cones had been placed behind my car and a tow truck driver had gone inside the business I'd apparently offended to verify something with the manager. I simply moved the cones aside, got in my car and drove off. Felt a small pang of Schadenfreude at wasting the time of all involved...keep your spots freshly painted and/or post a sign, A-holes!
Or infuriating... or depressing... or exhilarating once it opens. The rush I got when I picked my first proper high security lock (the one featured in Bosnian Bill's episode 378) was wild. But MAN did I yell at that thing for a couple of days...
@@austinbevis4266 I see you're a more patient man than I. Every "grabby" keyway annoys the fuck out of me and I will pick it on a fuel mixture of 50% coffee and 50% hate to show it I ain't bitch made :P
You know what's really "fun"?: Watching a locksmith open your front door with a plastic sheet and billing you 80 bucks for it... Only thing I can complain about is not having such a plastic sheet at hand, not being able to pick locks (picking a lock with a paperclip really is hard) and/or being dumb enough to forget the darned keys in the first place😆
The "fake rock" stash isn't such a bad idea when you consider just how easy it is to get through most locks. Not a good idea in a bad neighbourhood, but in a nice enough or secluded enough place it honestly doesn't make a real difference in the risks. It just makes you feel as unsafe as you really are.
My favorite locks to pick are my neighbors deadbolts when they get locked out. Over the years I've had a small handful of neighbors get locked out of their homes in such a way that I was made aware of it. In every instance the reactions were the same. From "There's no way you can do that!" to "Holy S**t he just did that!" And then the follow up of "You're not going to do that when I'm not home, right?" And I have to remind them, that we are neighbors, and I could have done this at any time. I choose to be on the right side of the law. Possessing a skill that can be used to break the law isn't much different than possessing a gun, or car, or hammer.... It's always the choice made by the individual. As my grandfather used to say: A lock only keeps honest people honest.
It''s not specifically wrong, but you might wanna consider not freaking out your neighbors too much, considering, you know, you'll keep living close and such (better be a lil humble than go with a "I could've done this a loooong time ago..." stuff, might set their paranoia off)
Agreed! I've even helped the gas station attendant who asked if I had a really good set of bolt cutters because she locked herself out of the office 😂 she was so happy when I got into the office in a few seconds and disappointed in how the lock was so easily bypassed. This skill should be used for good.
@@mtacrdipo7870 That paranoia is very necessary. Considering these tools are readily available and the knowledge is free online. These people need to understand how truly easy an average door lock is and how extremely vulnerable they are. If anything, this neighbor giving them access to their own home should be a wakeup call to tighten their security.
@@RacingPepe The last thing people need is more paranoia. Tired of this mass hysteria that there is a boogie man around every corner, that the world is teeming with people who are going to break into your home and harm you.
"A lock only keeps honest people honest." Hm. Something to think about. I'd add "lazy" people to the list, but the deterrent value of a lock varies from opportunist to opportunist.
He could have picked the lock, emptied his locker, and replaced the lock before leaving. But no, he had to complete the crime by keeping the lock and sending it to a lawyer with a very popular CZcams account. Majestic!
I'm sure the public storage would have video footage or some other record of the person accessing the premises. They'd have to make sure to get in and out by tailing someone else, for starters and then avoid all cameras.
from what my friend experienced, the storage places don't actually care. Some random guy followed someone in, and didn't even use a lockpick. Just brute forced it with a huge set of bolt cutters. Took a bunch of his things, and left. The storage facility security was on duty at the time, the cameras caught it all, and they refused compensation, and told him to F off. They don't care about anyone, they just want their monthly rent money@@carlosf.8056
@@FederalBurroOfInvestigationYup, that's the point. He might have gotten away with opening the lock and getting his stuff and leaving, but he went the extra mile flaunting it, which is crazy. It's like the guy who posts on facebook that he stole a soda from the 7-11 without anybody noticing.
Oh sweet, very nice addition to the covert companion.. I have one from a couple years back and don't have the removable folding pick set... will have to get one someday!
My storage company wouldn't allow me to pay online. And since I was technically set up for auto pay I didn't get sent bills only late notices. After it started going south with management and they started leaving locks on my unit not because I hadn't paid but because they didn't like me. I ended up filing a lawsuit and getting several months of free rent. But that lock only stopped me once, I liked leaving the cut up one on the floor as evidence for them.
I was a storage facility manager for 5 years, it started my fascination with locks & led me to your channel. I had been waiting for this video for a while, funnily enough it came soon after I switched industries and no longer work in self storage I cut so many locks for people who lost their keys. I always wanted to start picking but was concerned how it might look to customers if a manager could easily pick his was into their unit. The sparks of an angle grinder really give the impression of security!
I had a similar situation. I worked in a gym where we would cut locks if a person left their items in a locker for over 24hrs. I always wanted to pick their locks but realized if anything went missing they could blame me if anyone knew I was studying lockpicking.
That really is a problem with this hobby. You want to share it with other people, but when something goes missing you don't want to be 'the guy that can pick locks'
@user-zm7qz5fq2dat work we used the master 175 so to get around people knowing I can bypass them I just taught everyone I could how to bypass them so I wouldn't be the only one even made a cut away so they could see what's happening
@@DJ_Locksmy ladies dad was unaware of my hobby until they locked the key inside their safe box. I could hear him stammering over the phone when she called me to ask if I could come down and open it up 😂
@@kmfdmww3 I don't think you get the point of this... It's basically a "I'm doing this so you don't have to" scenario. He's showing us it's fairly easy, like any lock if you put in the time to learn the skill, but more importantly he's cautioning viewers about the legality of the hobby.
"This lock was stolen, which I do not approve of. None of you should ever break the law... Which is why, to make sure you *DO NOT* ever try this, I'm gonna show you how to open the lock." I love Lockpicking Lawyer.
LPL: please do not do this, you have committed 4 felonies. McNally: you are dealing with a red lock of shame. We will be picking it with a Ryobi hammer drill.
Alternative: This is a red lock of shame. We will be opening it with this red lock of shame that I stole from my former landlord's nightstand while I was pouring the kerosine.
@@graydi66y change the sharpie to a pen and that seems more likely due to the spring being metal he could use it to prop the pins while the aquarium tubing puts tension and the string attaches it to his thumb so he can apply pressure.
I got to legally pick one of thse. My boss owns a storage unit that he rents out. He hadn't gotten the notice of payment from one of his employees in finance, so he locked up the persons unit. Well he managed to lose the keys and was super sorry to his customer. So he called me and I was able to get it open for him. He gave the customer a full refund for the month as well as one month free. I was just happy to get to use lockpicking in a way that made both the lock owner, and the person effected by the lock happy.
Those crimes you mention are not necessarily felonies, especially when you factor in laws being different in different states. In Texas, theft of the lock itself is unlikely to be more than a misdemeanor (unless the lock is worth over $2500). Burglary (removing the lock to access the contents, which one has no legal right to when the rent has not been paid) would be a felony in most states, though. Also most storage units have an access code, also disabled when rent is late, which means another potential crime for bypassing the access control gates.
let me get this straight, i rent a place to store my stuff, and if i fail to pay my rent one time all the stuff stored in there just magically seizes to be my property? i never used a storage unit so i wouldnt know, i dont even think they are a thing where i live but this seems incredibly stupid
@@InvocareIgnis1 it's a similar situation to falling behind on apartment rent. They can legally evict you from an apartment and put a lien on your more valuable possessions to satisfy unpaid rent.
It should be noted that sometimes a lock doesn't have to be secure. The renter of a storage unit obviously relies on reliable security to keep their items safe on a daily basis, but the lock out padlock for not paying your bill exists primarily as a "legal" lock. As noted, John committed at least 3 felonies ignoring the theft of the lock. The storage rental likely has him on camera, and they have his name, address, phone number, and probably more. The "security" of this lock are the laws preventing legal entry, not the lock itself.
Most of the places around where I live require a code to enter the property, one that is unique to the renter. And even if they tailgated someone else to get in, there are still cameras watching.
I agree with this, many of self storage places in my area do security in layers, I work in IT and can say what LPL does is the same for IT security. Relying on one lock and one lock only can be at times flimsy.
@@JMcMillenEven so, John is the only one that should have a red lock, that doesn't have a red lock. The management definitely knows what happened by now, probably before the lock was even mailed.
I think it would’ve been much funnier if he’d just opened the storage unit, emptied all his stuff out save for a few empty boxes of expensive brands, and put the lock back on. That would make a great Storage Wars episode and the storage place would make their money back.
John's powermove wasnt unlocking the door and taking his stuff back. It was taking his stuff back AND filling back the entire unit with packing peanuts.
Getting this lock from a viewer must be like the equivalent of a cat dropping a dead mouse at your feet. With all the ick included. That is a trophy gift in honor of your tutelage XD
Many years ago, I got written up for not locking my desk. I went to the Security Manager (I also did projects for him) and said 'this is a joke'. These locks barely slow me down and proceeded to use my DESK KEY to bounce the lock pins of his: desk, file cabinet and storage cabinet... in less than 2 minutes. He was shocked that I did not need any tools. (I was also requested to not make this generally known at work)
At the last office I worked in, there were serrated letter openers on every other desk. They were effective for raking the locks for filing cabinets and cubicle storage.
1) 2 minutes is better than 0 minutes. 2) I think it's generally a good idea that locking up is enforced. It makes it clear that, unless you have the key, you are not supposed to look. 3) It would be unreasonable to pay expensive locks, so it's either cheap locks or no locks.
The main goal is to show that the location is intended to be secured. If you leave a desk drawer unlocked in a communal area, there is no criminal case if someone goes into the drawer and can claim "I was just looking for a pencil". Even if the lock is trivial, there could be security footage of someone picking the lock.
@@sandrorass890 Depends on the kind of office. Two minutes is enough to reasonably prevent the theft of office supplies at the workplace of the average paper pusher. However at say a law firm or a financial institution, or fortune 500 less than two minutes for three locks with no tools is more that enough to facilitate severe corporate espionage.
you also established to the Security Manager that YOU know how to get past the locks,so you become the first suspect if something goes missing from somebody's desk,or elsewhere.
@@wolphin732 Not sure where you live, but in most US states, mere possession of the tools is not illegal - there must be a criminal intent to do burglary with the tool or instrument.
@@kindablue1959 That's how it is in Canada. You can own the tools, but if you're caught carrying them around, you had best have a good story prepared or you're going to be hit with possession of burglary tools. In my case, I work in security, so I get a reasonable pass.
My current storage company doesn’t use this type of lock, but we personally use this style lock. Our locks definitely have never opened as easily. The main part is a lot harder to slide, but the tumblers might be the same. A always was curious how had they were to break into. Thank you for the info. Hopefully it will keep my unit safe.
@@petera.schneider2140There is no single set solution for any problem the law presents. Everything related to any law anywhere carries with it some amount of nuance. A given lock, has a given solution.
I straight up told a previous employer that I owned a set of lockpicks from a previous job where I was authorized to carry red team tools, and that I had some beginner-level skills in using them... then proceeded to give my boss and his boss a demonstration. While I was with that company, I was allowed to carry my lockpicks on the truck with me during my shifts and use them to support company operations as directed, because it was cheaper to pay me $50 to pick a lock that I needed open anyway than it was to send a locksmith. It was actually kinda cool to be in the legal clear to pick a lock or three that I didn't buy specifically for the purpose of practicing... it was also pretty nice to have immediate recourse if some warehouse type did me dirty and left a gladhand lock on an empty trailer that I was gonna have to take after hours
You were nice enough to unlock the glad lock? Our customer never seemed to figure out the uselessness of locking the trailer (because they’d either freeze up, they’d lose the key [so they’d break it off] or they’d forget it’s on there [and we’d break it off]. Especially because they were already hooked to our trucks (really hard to steal a trailer when it’s stuck between the dock and our truck).
@jaysmith1408 I wouldn't say I was nice for picking open that gladhand lock... more like I was tired and already pissed off because a load I was supposed to be picking up turned out to be vaporware, and I most definitely wasn't gonna bobtail all the way back to the yard to end my shift... so I raked that sucker open because I knew I could do that faster than I could break it off, and got the fuck out with my freshly liberated trailer behind me
Could someone translate the lingo in these comments? I'm so interested in whats going on but can't figure it out. What us a gladhand? vaporware? bobtail? and what industry/business is this? Shipping/trucking?
@@tehrater480 gladhand, the connection between air hoses, used on trucks and railways. Gets the name from appearing as two left hands shaking hands. Bobtail, running a tractor trailer without a trailer, just the tractor.
thanks LPL. due to this video's title, I have gone ahead and LEGALLY robed a bank very inormitive, and again, thanks for letting me know not to break the law.. otherwise i would've illegally robbed this bank 👍👍😃😃
First lock I picked was similar to this one. I say similar because this round lock was the one I used on my storage unit that I had, and when I moved everything out of it, I had no use for this lock, so I practiced picking it. I successfully picked it and was overjoyed when I did because aside from the training Lock I was sent with the lock pick kit, I had never successfully picked a lock. While I haven’t done anything with my minor skills, I was recently able to remove a broken key from a lock using similar skills. Saved my company about $500 dollars in replacing the lock. What did I get for compensation? “Thank you!”
I'm pretty sure it was a LPL video a few years ago that I read a comment along the lines of "a lock's job isn't to keep criminals out, because no lock is unpickable. Rather, a lock's job is to keep an honest person honest."
Yeah, we've got a law in Germany that puts "circumventing an effective protection" as illegal. (About protection of copyright material like DVD and BD Video) The computer scientist's logic is, "when it can be cracked, it wasn't effective". But it looks like lawyers see it differently.
Very good advice. I am teaching myself to be a Pentester/cybersecurity and have loved your videos and learned a lot. Two times I have been reminded to not display what I have learned. 1. My office requires a fob key to get in, I don't have one, and the bathroom is outside of our office. I got tired of waiting to get let in and disturbing people who were working, so I took a magazine to the bathroom with me, and when I came back I put it between the office doors, flicked it at the motion detector, and let myself in. Overjoyed at my success, I showed a video of me doing that to a coworker, and then 3 other people started doing that. STOP. YOU ARE GONNA GET ME IN TROUBLE. 2. Somebody I know REALLY wanted to record their favorite band, so I spoofed an email for them pretending to be the band (authority) and instructed the venue to let him in. The venue agreed, and the band (who had been unresponsive) finally spoke up and said "what the hell? I don't know who that is!". Well, my friend didn't want to let it go and kept wanting to try and argue his way in, despite me saying to STOP, THIS IS ENTERING FELONY TERRITORY AND YOU WILL LOSE YOUR RETIREMENT. Thank you for the reminder. I think we just get excited sometimes and need to be told to calm down.
I got one of these locks on my storage by mistake. (It was suppose to be on a different unit) I just went to the front desk, got it sorted out, they apologized and came out with me to unlock it.
Best thing I have been told is "Locks are there to keep the honest person honest, if a criminal wants in they are getting in... the lock is the least of their concerns"
That sounds clever, but it's not true at all. Locks are there to make a target less attractive. If the difficulty of getting in outweighs the expected profits, the criminal will find another target.
@@SocratesAthI actually disagree with that, the more secure something looks can also be an indication of the value if there was a cardboard box or a safe on a shelf you think they are going for the box first?
@@sccsuk Depends how well-prepared they are, but look at it this way: opening the cardboard box will take two seconds, might as well do it before you get to work on the safe.
@@SocratesAth a better example for attracting attention would be a pair of cabinets: one with the pre-installed cheap wafer lock, and another that has a bolted on padlock. You're going to need to break through a lock anyways, why not go for the one that was deemed important enough to put extra security on? Security is a balance between difficulty and perceived value, ideally you want your stuff to look like it's not worth the difficulty to access
As a part owner of a storage facility, thank you. We don't overlock, by the way. We work with customers who are behind and as a last resort clean them out. I've never understood overlocking, anyway. It encourages abandonment and sets a tone of noncooperation. Unfortunately, we get taken for a months-long ride sometimes, too. It's hard to be nice to some people!
I don't know if I'm using the correct lingo, actually. By overlocking I meant the act of putting a second lock on a customer's storage unit to lock the customer out. Frankly, if a customer isn't going to pay, I would prefer they move as much of their stuff out as possible. It makes less for me to haul off now and less cause for argument later.@@tsm688
Most storage unit latches have places for two locks, the customer's lock goes on one, and if they fail to pay, the manager puts their lock on it to deny customer entry until paid, that's overlocking, because the manager is putting their lock over the customer's lock. @@tsm688
When I worked at big storage chain, the standard policy when behind for a certain time period was cutting off their lock and putting a dinky blue lock there instead. This was after a big spiel about security and trying to upsell locks. Those up sold locks were way overpriced too. Makes no sense to incur extra cost to the people who least could bear it :(
So genuine question, if you take that lock off then grab all your stuff from inside of a storage locker- can they sue you for stealing the stuff inside, or only for not paying the rent?
I can’t wait for that day! My kids are very young and I worry they won’t get into “good” sorts of trouble like we used to. I ollie’d 12 stairs on my skateboard when I was 13 and I remember the look on my dads face when he was punishing me for risking such a serious injury. Priceless!
I don't know much about US law, but there's no way stealing a lock is a felony, let alone 4 different ones. That's absurd. On second thought, from the little I do know about US law, that sounds about right.
In many states $20+ still constitutes a felony. Corporate prices are crazy, wouldn't surprise me if this was itemized closer to $100. Then they moved stolen property across state lines. Then breaking and entry. Guessing the last one is for using the postal service to transfer stolen property but IDK really. @@EllaKarhu
After the Christmas break work put notices on all the bicycles and locks on the bicycle racks at work. You were meant to contact management for an inventory. After a while the bikes that were still there with no reply or the signs on had locks fitted to them to see if people were using them. It’s now April and work has run out of moves - there’s still like 2 dozen old bicycles now double locked to the racks not going anywhere lol. I keep thinking of trying to pick the lock on the bike near where I leave mine but don’t want to get fired lol - I already got pretty good at picking my locker - but I’m pretty sure they don’t have cameras in the changing rooms.
On my first day working at a bank the manager showed me a place where they stored extra cash. I almost blurted out that those locks are super easy to pick, but that little voice in the back of my head was able to shut me up just in time 😂 Later on, after mutual trust had been established, I did mention just how unsecure those locks were.
@@teeanahera8949 Why is it that the antithesis of secure is "insecure" rather than unsecure? Just curious if there is a reason why it is different than the normal opposite of words like (orthodox/unorthodox, friendly/unfriendly, - not sure if there is a blanket word for types of words that have an opposite meaning)
It is perfectly possible that this was the manager of the storage facility that sent you the red lock of shame. Perhaps just to see how effective it actually was.
@@Ristaak Well yeah, possibly I guess. If we're going by "could be" however, we can make up pretty much _anything_ to explain how or why the lock got there.
LPL Probably just ordered this lock online where they are easy to get, but honestly I love the story! It's great and it's what makes this channel so good!
I still miss Bill, especially when you guys would team up. Hope he's doing well. Every time you pull out the "pick that Bosnian Bill and I made," it's like a visit from an old friend.
I also went Into the comments to see if somebody had somethingto say about Bill, he got me back into de hobby of lockpicking and make the choice of lockpicks that I needed to buy.
I like your channel, it exposes the weaknesses of locks. I guess all padlocks can be opened by brute force but I wonder if a ball bearing lock can be opened by an open wrench attack?
Several years ago I got locked out of my apartment. No keys phone or wallet. Couldn’t call the landlord or a locksmith. A cop advised going to the fire station (close by) and they graciously said they’d help. Unfortunately they had to pry my door open, breaking the door frame in the process. “That’ll cost me some $ I thought.” Well it turns out local code requires apts to have “fire-proof” doors which meant extensive repairs (not just the door frame) Cost me $1500. 2 positives came out of that exp. (1) I finally started learning lock picking and (2) at least I got to ride in a fire truck. (Although it probably wasn’t worth $1500). Thanks to Lock Picking lawyer, Bosnian Bill and Locknoob I now have the skill to get into my home if forget or lose my keys!
"Jon broke the law, but since this lock is here I might as well show you how easy it is to bypass it" Pick your locks responsibly, folks! 10/10, love it, will watch again
So in short: the lock was picked, the bill was paid, so John’s would be cell mate, didn’t get… look, the moral is don’t borrow things without permission.
That's funny! I've been locked out of my Storage Unit 2 times, yes the first time I was 2 Days late paying the Bill as I thought I signed up for Direct Debit when I rented it & they had removed the Electronic 'Lock' enabling me to get into the Premises but were just too Lazy(or forgot) to remove the physical Lock & the Second time it was meant for the Unit Beside mine! The last one was a pain because I went at Night to Collect an item I had for Sale & had to wait until the Morning for them to remove the Padlock!
Just for the benefit of the doubt, there are a lot of slimy storage places out there doing things they shouldn't and then hold your property ransom.... I've had to deal with one like this.
Hello LPL! So, I have a similar (insert fancy pad lock name I do not know) lock that I have been practicing on, and I noticed the red lock has the exact same keyway that twists a bit at the top. This twist makes a little hook inside that makes it almost impossible for me to work a pick around. I have yet to succeed with this lock, and by watching your fingers here I hope I might finally get it. EDIT: OMG you are using the CCompanion! I have one!!
Now I really want to watch a 30+ minute long lecture from LPL about the laws and issues surrounding lockpicking. Would be a great opportunity for him to show off some skills we don't normally see in his videos.
Rule 1. Only pick locks YOU own. Rule 2. Only pick locks you don’t plan to use to lock things up. Rule 3. IF you must pick a lock in use verify the lock works with key BEFORE securing the item.
Pretty much guaranteed he will never do a deep dive into it, since it varies so much by jurisdiction and he don't want anyone to take it as legal advice.
I'm convinced that the purpose of many locks is not to keep people out, but to be 'exhibit A' when they get in, and that this explains why bad locks are so common. Most people would rather lose a lock than a door to a determined entrant.
That doesn't explain locks that are easy to pick, because picking a lock usually leaves no evidence of breaking and entering, unlike breaking doors! That's the benefit of lock picking: you can't prove it afterwards! The reason why bad locks are common is because your typical burglars don't profit from that benefit, because the stuff they steal and the mess they make while searching for stuff worth stealing creates more than enough evidence of the burglary anyway, so why bother keeping the lock and door intact? Lockpicking is only worth it for criminals looking to secretly steal information, but most people don't have secret information at home that anyone would break into their house for.
I do miss Bosnianbill and his funny videos. Back in the years 2017-2019, I made many challenge locks for him and he was able to pick or rake open all of them, which was a sign that his skill was improving. Condolences to Bill’s friend who died due to COVID-19. I did actually had it for the first time in September 2023 and it really does knock you out, but my fever did break after two days and I was able to return to normal activities after five more days. I do believe that Bill still has one of my challenge locks, which I will allow him to keep to remember me.
Bosnian Bill is, and will always be, the OG of legitimising locksport. Former FBI agent, avid Master Lock hater, the epitome of wholesomeness and a gift to the community for the time we had him.
@JustSomeWeirdo Bosnian Bill is, and will always be, the OG of legitimising locksport. Former FBI agent, avid Master Lock hater, the epitome of wholesomeness and a gift to the community for the time we had him.
@@user-zm7qz5fq2d Bosnian Bill , He's also a very talented locksmith. An older military guy. If I am not mistaken he was kind of the one that got LPL into locksmithing or learning how to when he first started up. He has his own CZcams channel but retired from posting anymore videos. He is really funny I think and talented as well. LPL and him also made a lockpicking tool together as well.
Oh man, I miss BosnianBill so much... I started at his channel and ended on yours when I saw him mention you in some video. It's nice to see that you still think of him!
5 years ago a buddy of mine had one of these appear on his unit. I picked it and locked it on the unit next to his. It was chalked up to a simple misunderstanding, and by the time they got it sorted out he had his unit cleaned out.
This channel saved the day for me, we had a "cheap" combination lock at work that nobody knew the code for... A little tension on the shackle and going through the combinations I got it unlocked 😂 boss bought lunch for me that day
@@willies545 Funny you say that, i met a girlfriend that way. She had forgotten her code, i offered to open the cheap masterlock combination padlocks the university uses and, like you, it took me the best part of 10 seconds to pop it open. She was both impressed and a little freaked out that someone could open a lock like this!
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He committed at least four felonies……but before he goes to jail let’s see what it takes to get this open!!!!!😊
No he didn't
@RealMTBAddict True the known lawyer has no idea what he is talking about.
Next week on Lock Picking Lawyer we’ll see what it takes to pick a jail cell lock using only a toothbrush.
@@RealMTBAddict In the US it's considered breaking and entering if you remove that lock yourself and the owner of the rental place can have you charged and arrested if you're caught or admit to doing it not saying this person is from the US just what the law in the US is I should know one of my friends was arrested for doing it.
@@coltonkoepp655Yup. What LPL said is very true in the US. There are multiple potential charges at that point including breaking and entering.
Sending a written signed confession along with the physical evidence to a lawyer just for kicks might not be the most brilliant idea...
Actually not the worst idea. If it is YOUR lawyer, he or she will tell you how to proceed from there. Lawyers need to know exactly how much trouble you got yourself in to tell you how to make the best of your situation.
Unless you are a orange baffoon trying to get your lawyers to commit crimes FOR you, showing evidence to your lawyer before it is shown to a court is a good idea. There are good reasons why correspondence with your legal council is heavily protected.
@@christophedlauer1443I GUARANTEE LPL isn’t “John Doe’s” lawyer.
Why tho, yes its not brilliant what he has done, but not for that reason.
Like a random lawyer won't get anything out of snitching on you.
Doing a fellony is still to be avoided, but lawyers ain't working directly for the government, so they wouldn't persue you. For that you would have to send to a police officer or somebody similar.
@@christophedlauer1443 Oh look a partisan. Lovely weather today.
@@christophedlauer1443lol I find it funny how people manage to bring trump into everything, and every conversation, please can you tell me how many times a day lol do u blame trump for any problems your having, how many times a day do u mention trump, or manage to blame trump for something, are you able to go 1 day without mentioning trump or blaming him for something.
I was at a storage unit with my mom when the manager mentioned these locks and said they’re harder to cut. I said “well how thick is the door, couldn’t you just cut around it?” He said, “don’t get smart,” and after a pause he smirked and admitted, “the easiest way is with a crowbar.”
Actually picking for LPL
I was thinking about cutting around the lock too, lol
Too much work. The body on those locks are just sheet metal. I can cut the lock in half and have it off in under 10 seconds.
the easiest way through any lock is a cordless angle grinder. No skill necessary.
@@Abandoned_Braneyea even an angle grinder would take a minute or 2 but fs
Ah I've gotten one of these locks. They mistakenly put this lock on my locker when I was renting a storage unit. Not only did they put the lock on my unit, but they also took pictures of everything in my unit so they could auction it off. It was 2 days away from auction. I checked my locker monthly. Turns out, the guy next to me was the actual unit that hadn't paid their bills. From my understanding, if they sold my stuff, they'd say "Oops. That sucks for you." Never renting a storage locker ever again.
Wow, such safety
If they sold your stuff, you could make up anything having been in there, and sue them for it.
I would say there was a baseball card collection valued at $5 million.
Then I'd sue for treble damages.
@@rievaulxlucienne1176 unless the contract you signed limits their liability which it most certainly does.
@@ssl3546 That would not apply if they breach their own contract.
@@rievaulxlucienne1176 No! Sue them for *Bass* damages!!!
LPL: *argues legality of bypassing a specific lock*
Also LPL: Anyway since we already have it here...
He specifically argued the legality of bypassing that lock after it has been used to seal off a unpaid locker.
Just the lock by itself, which you can propably just buy somewhere, has no legal repercussions to being picked at all.
@@Cracks094I mean, he WAS a lawyer, after all. I’m sure he’s got his legal bases covered
don't shoot the messanger
@@theduckmenace I'm not really sure. I'm no lawyer by any means, but that seems like a bit of a stretch. For starters, I think he was operating under the assumption that the lock was stolen and was not told explicitly. Furthermore, LPL pledged to send the lock back the following day, a perfectly reasonable decision. I also doubt tampering is appropriate as the definition of tampering something is to interfere with it in order to damage or make alterations to it. LPL is an experienced professional, obviously, so no damage is done to the lock.
I can only assume we'll see that classic drug PSA play out in the courtroom at some point. "You've broken into ten houses in a week! Who taught you to pick so many locks?!" "YOU! I learned it from watching you!"
Come on guys, he's the Lock-Picking LAWYER. Don't implicate him in a crime.
I don’t think any moron is going to claim LPL did anything wrong.
Hes already got the stolen lock. Hes an accessory also guilty of receiving stolen goods.
@@woodzyfox4735 Except he's not guilty. He didn't knowingly receive stolen goods. They were mailed to him, he then identified them as stolen, and is returning them. You have to prove intent for a charge regarding receipt of stolen goods to stick, and he definitely did not intentionally receive stolen goods.
@@woodzyfox4735 : Guilt requires wanting to own the stolen property. LPL clearly states he's sending it back, i.e. that he is refusing the stolen property.
by incentivizing crimes indirectly, he secures his customer base 🤣🤣🤣
I was a military man most of my youth... got into Rangers, and we were learning breaching methods. Now, let me preface this next part with this- Rangers are fire and forget spec ops. You send Rangers when you need something or someone to change their status to past tense. That being said, someone in my group had the bright idea to ask- "what if we're trying to be quiet?" to which someone else answered "hope you can pick the locks". My buddy looks at me and says "Link can do it". I've been quiet this whole time because i hate having the spotlight on me. Sergeant asks, "can you pick this lock?"
"Probably"
"I got 5 says he can't"
"I'll double that says he can"
... took me 3 seconds, because i had to sell it to them, since they left the damn door unlocked.
🙂
This is a great story.. the euphemism of "changing their status to past tense" has a dark comedy to it.
Legendary 😂😂😂
"Wheeze" they left it unlocked!
Sounds about right
Lmao, most army shit I have ever heard.
Couple months ago, I locked myself out of my apartment. It was after hours so it would have been $20 for maintenance to come let me in. Luckily, I had my work truck key and that's where my lockpick set was! 😁 Watching LPL was about to save me $20! ....nope, tried for 20 minutes and then gave up and called. I need to practice more lmao
THE TWIST LMAOO
Mine said they were going to charge me 150 because they have a old dead bolt on my door that automatically locks if a tiny switch is flipped nope up the fire excape I go to get in the windo
Should have driven to your storage unit!
@@RoySATX what storage unit?
I choose to charitably interpret this as “John is the manager, and wants to see how good his locks are.”
I would not be the least bit surprised if LPL asked the manager of his local storage place to borrow a red lock. No key necessary.
@@JamieStuff I would be extremely surprised, he's not exactly known for making up elaborate stories just to explain why he has a particular lock.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Unless its April 1st
@@JamieStuff You think he faked it?
Wholesome!
Every time we get to hear LPL actually *be a lawyer* is a good day indeed.
An Honest Lawyer!!!
Good on ya, John! Parking boot next! 😈
It doesn’t take a genius to know you shouldn’t steal the manager lock from a storage unit, never mind confess to the crime to an actual lawyer, but it’s still nice to hear him call out the behavior. A lot of people apparently need the reminder.
@@randybobandy9208lol 884 is the parking boot.
@@fighteer1For all we know the story could be made up.
Because of the 'possession of burglary tools' laws, I checked with my local PD before ordering a pick kit years ago. Cop was surprised cuz he hadn't had someone ask before, but thought it was cool I checked. Basically said unless I was doing something that would net me charges in the first place, there was no problem with having them or carrying them.
There are a lot of laws like that. Like wearing body armor during the commission of a violent felony. There's absolutely no incentive to follow that law if you are already going to be commiting a violent crime. But if you do it, they'll add that charge and get you even more time.
IIRC, here in Canada, the law says something in the vein of "non-locksmiths aren't allowed to have picking tools in their possession outside their homes".
My understanding has always been that lock picks, and Jimmy bars and so forth are considered burglary tools in the context of committing a crime or in the context of being under suspicion or as the basis of suspecting you of a crime.
In other words, you can't be arrested for having them, but it raises suspicions and offers police a basis to search you or investigate further, etc.
@@moblinmajorgeneral And then more than likely drop those extra charges in the plea deal.
@@mikew3194yeah, I feel like that is part of the overall strategy behind those kinds of laws. It strongly encourages people to take a plea deal when they're suddenly hit with a literal mountain of obscure charges. People still get convicted for the essentials, but you've wasted far less money on litigating it.
Plus, as someone else said, it works for giving the police valid reasons to search you and investigate deeper without needing warrants.
(Not arguing for - or against - the morality of this, just sharing an observation.)
It's interesting that removing the lock is a felony in the US whilst in my country placing that lock is a felony. The renter has the right to remove that lock even when having missed a payment.
Here in Sweden, for a storage space its not a crime to place such a lock, BUT you cannot auction off the unit because the renter failed to pay. What you have to do, is to have a authorized baliff go through the space, and then the items that are for the failed payment are sold off. The rest of the items must be returned to renter. So if the missed payment is 100$, and the items are worth 1000$, you can only auction one item at a time until you receive 100$, the rest must be returned to renter. If one item exceeds 100$, for example, if its a motorcycle that was sold for lets say 1000$, then you must pay the renter 900$. (leftover from sale).
However, if you own the space (a house, or a box on your porch or your car), its a crime to place such a lock, AND a crime to remove it.
Meaning, if you come home a day, to find a big padlock on your car, or house its illegal for you to cut the lock. You must go to a government agency called "Kronofogden" (baliffs) to have the lock legally removed. Same applies if you have a ongoing dispute about a property requiring it to be locked up, you can't just walk to someone else's house and put a lock, but you must go through "Kronofogden".
And this is EXACTLY why its illegal to remove a lock that is on your property, even if that lock was illegally placed. They say: 2 crimes doesn't make 1 right. Because it could be "Kronofogden" that have applied the lock, you can't know, thus its always illegal to remove a lock you didn't place, even if you own the property.
One instance where you are ALLOWED to put a lock on someone's elses property, is if the owner is deceased. Then you may put a lock on someone's property along with a sealed tag, to prevent relatives from meddling with their property until the will and all the legal things about the death have been successfully processed and its now time to distribute the inheritances. Such locks are rare and its usually only placed when there is a ongoing dispute among the inheritances.
Its however not illegal to remove a lock that you own, but that someone else have disabled, thats why, in the case you have the right to seal someone's elses property for some reason, always put a new lock, don't use a "disable a lock" key or put stuff in the keyhole. That doesn't count and any locksmith will remove such things without a blink.
much of the law in the US is made to be as wide reaching as possible, most of it just isnt enforced. some estimates say the average US citizen commits 3 felonies per day. this is by design, and is set up to make it so the police can arrest pretty much anyone they want without reason, because they can probably find a reason to arrest them even if they just grabbed a random person off the street.
That’s because the US will always place money over people. I mean at one point they were transferable.
That's because the law in the US is designed specifically to criminalize being poor and reward being born into the aristocracy.
@dontmisunderstand6041 Not only the US, this ownership-above-all fundamentalism is quite common. But what is ownership, ans how beneficial is it? Ownership does NOT give the owner any rights he didn't already have, it just denies others those rights. Property is a negative invention ..Large parts of the planet became private property, meaning no longer free to use, live in, harvest from or even to be there. Achievement or a crime? In my country, theft is defined as "taking away anything that belongs - in part or entirely - to someone else, with the objective to make it his own.. With this "partly" addition, a lot of ownership is in fact legalized theft. Property is not a natural state of things. It is only justiffied for some very good reasons, such as "owner made the tool, grew the crops, built the house/ship" Rights nobody will deny. But what do we see? Ownership based on being the first to discover a place, an edible plant, (the first to claim it, really) Or on having ancestors who killed the other's ancestors, in case any dry surface on earth. Land ownership was a game changer. Not surpising, it is large scale theft.
The real easons to protect owners so much, is that its base, exclusion, made some people very, very rich. That blinds msny@@dontmisunderstand6041
This locks security is 100% in the extra laws you break circumventing it.
Like a LOTO lock. Not hard to crack, but you’re in a SERIOUS amount of trouble if you aren’t the person meant to be opening it
So like most locks you don't own?
@@yoloswaggins1579 No, most locks should offer at least an obstacle.
This one is more like a tamper seal.
@@christopherg2347 If you're a regular on this channel you know just how much obstacle most locks offer.
@@yoloswaggins1579You aren't getting a felony for just picking someones lock and taking it lmao
Plot twist: John is actually a manager of a self storage place and wanted to see how easy or hard his locks are to pick
that was my thought too!
This is definitely the case lol
I mean, I feel like he could've just said that instead of lying to make himself look bad, but sure
@@eyweiuaiA story that outrageous would definitely attract attention, though, which would give the sender a motive. It might have been enough to make LPL record a video of it specifically
@@eyweiuaibut he wouldn't be lying to make himself look bad. If the criminal is hypothetical, there's no one to look bad, if the criminal isn't real.
This video has very strong "here's how you can protect your grape juice from turning into wine" energy.
Hi LPL, thanks for encouraging legal, non-destructive bypass. Your channel has taught me a lot about lockpicking and has helped me a number of times.
John didn't come here for lockpicking, he came here for legal advice 😂😂
(holding a decapitated head) "Hey lawyer guy, what do I do with this?"
In that case, may I suggest legal eagle instead for lock picking advice?
Edit: Because some people can’t seem to figure it out, this is a joke, we come to a lock picking CZcams and get legal advice, therefore we go to a legal channel for lock picking advice.
@@stegleshes a lock picking LAWYER
@@NeatNit You should return it to it's owner, but since we have it here tonight, let's see what it takes to get it open!
D'oh!
I sometimes forget lpl isn't just a name but because he's an actual qualified lawer
@karlwithak. what are you even talking about lol. stop pretending to be a lawyer.
@karlwithak. You're just repeating memes about "nowadays". Are you one of those perpetually online types?
Yeah, a corporate lawyer. Not a criminal one. He's not qualified here, which is why he made the idiotic statement of "at least 4 felonies" and pretending like it meant anything. This matter would never go above civil. But I'm not surprised that a corpo lawyer would omit facts to make themselves seem more competent and successful. You dipshits seem to think he's a magical unicorn that shits rainbows, when he's just a failed corpo lawyer with a hobby on CZcams now
@karlwithak. definitely not a lawyer. It's actually illegal to portrary yourself one with the intent of offering legal advice like this. A legitimate lawyer would be well aware that this situation depends 100% on jurisdiction.
source: married to a lawyer so I get unlimited free legal questions
Gotta love how once he gets called out on faking being a lawyer he stops responding lmao
Because of this channel, I learned to lockpick. It took me a few weeks to get comfortable with the various common locks used today but, after a little practice, I got good enough to pick most locks within a minute or so. My wife was confused why I'd "waste my time" learning this skill. In the past few years, I've helped a couple of people get into their cars, helped numerous people with their padlocks they'd lost keys for, and helped several people get into their homes. I think the day I picked our own front door when we got locked out was when she finally admitted it's a useful skill to have.
Part of me does kind of want to see a scenario where the lock is picked, the unit emptied, the lock replaced and then the manager auctions off whats inside, only for them to open the door of an empty unit 😅😅
god please that's hilarious
So many good stories could begin with "John however chose a different route that involved At Least 4 felonies"
Yes. It's a cracker line, isn't it? I laughed.
Not sure how 'good' the stories would be but they, certainly, would be entertaining.
@@truthandreality4650 good and bad are relative in this situation. For example if you support capitalism then obviously what John did was bad and evil because he cheated a corporation out of getting money. If you don't agree with capitalism then John is morally in the clear and you might say sticking it to the big evil corporation.
The only thing that's absolute here is that it's illegal but it's important to remember that legality doesn't define whether something is good or bad, it justifies that it's been outlawed as a punishable offense, something that lawmakers have become quite overzealous about in recent times.
@@truthandreality4650 Good stories often involve bad behavior.
or, "...so that's how I lost my medical license."
Things that only happen on the internet: stealing a lock to send it to a lawyer that picks locks in his spare time for an audience of hundreds of thousands of people
Edit: to people saying his audience is millions I know he has 4 million something subs I just went off of average views lol. Thanks for the likes though one of my top comments ever🙏
Did you hear a name?
That's the good side of the internet. And then there are the flat Earthers.
@@therealzilchwhat do you have against them? they have friends all aROUND the world.
Millions.
@@therealzilch . . . . and beyond the horizon there be monsters, do not sail there least you be eater alive!
Locks aren't made to keep a thief out, they're made to keep an honest man honest
I'm curious who thought sending stolen goods and admitting a crime to a Lawyer was a good idea. 😅
And then LPL telling us not to pick storage unit locks while showing us how to pick a storage unit lock lol
Lawyers aren't cops. They have a legal obligation to maintain confidentiality.
@@smackerlacker8708 That's only with clients but still if there is no indictment there is no reason to share information.
@@smackerlacker8708On behalf of their *clients*. That's part of the reason you'll often see the disclaimer "this is not legal advice", alongside "this does not form a client-attorney relationship". If you admit to anything prior to their accepting you as a client (especially if they decide not to take you on subsequent to that), then there is no confidentiality on that information.
It's a made up story by LPL for the sake of providing a narrative, which drives engagement. Nobody actually maliciously sent him a lock, in fact anybody can just buy these locks. You people should have enough media competence to understand that the story provided is fictious and only provided for entertainment.
Thanks for the title. Was just about to break the law before I saw it
❤😂
What if just watching this video is breaking the law?
Same.
@@miked0602 it's not though
@@hayleyxyzor is it
You just helped him prove he didn’t damage the lock too much. You really are a good lawyer 👍🏻
Not gonna lie, I do have an appreciation for those who are clever enough to outfox 'authorities'. Once I parked my car in what apparently was a HOV only spot (there was no posted sign, and the paint on the asphalt was so faded that no reasonable person would've seen it), got what I needed out of a nearby store, only to find cones had been placed behind my car and a tow truck driver had gone inside the business I'd apparently offended to verify something with the manager. I simply moved the cones aside, got in my car and drove off. Felt a small pang of Schadenfreude at wasting the time of all involved...keep your spots freshly painted and/or post a sign, A-holes!
Didn't you get a letter in your mailbox afterwards ?
They might very well have recorded your license plate too.
LPL: "don't break the law"
McnallyOfficial: "starts hitting red lock with a hammer"
Or an Axe. Or with another Lock. xD
nah he'd use his triangle, or another lock
Absolutely not. He would throw his tactical speed square at it like a civilized adult.
LPL:: "Maybe don't pick this lock."
"Nah, I'mma do my own thing."
You have a red lock of shame. It can be opened with a red lock of shame.
For a law abiding picker, a lock is essentially just a fun puzzle
Or infuriating... or depressing... or exhilarating once it opens. The rush I got when I picked my first proper high security lock (the one featured in Bosnian Bill's episode 378) was wild. But MAN did I yell at that thing for a couple of days...
@@andersjjensen the only negative emotion I’ve ever felt while picking was as a result of my lockpick getting stuck in the lock and broken inside
@@austinbevis4266 I see you're a more patient man than I. Every "grabby" keyway annoys the fuck out of me and I will pick it on a fuel mixture of 50% coffee and 50% hate to show it I ain't bitch made :P
Broke into my truck tonight because I locked it with the keys in the ignition and the engine running like an idiot.
and the reward is whatever it's guarding
You know what's really "fun"?: Watching a locksmith open your front door with a plastic sheet and billing you 80 bucks for it... Only thing I can complain about is not having such a plastic sheet at hand, not being able to pick locks (picking a lock with a paperclip really is hard) and/or being dumb enough to forget the darned keys in the first place😆
The "fake rock" stash isn't such a bad idea when you consider just how easy it is to get through most locks. Not a good idea in a bad neighbourhood, but in a nice enough or secluded enough place it honestly doesn't make a real difference in the risks. It just makes you feel as unsafe as you really are.
My grandma has opened our front door by jimmying her credit card in it when we were locked out of the house
You pay for the years it took to learn to do that, not the seconds it takes to do, yknow?
I miss ol Bill I hope he is doing well.
My favorite locks to pick are my neighbors deadbolts when they get locked out. Over the years I've had a small handful of neighbors get locked out of their homes in such a way that I was made aware of it. In every instance the reactions were the same. From "There's no way you can do that!" to "Holy S**t he just did that!" And then the follow up of "You're not going to do that when I'm not home, right?" And I have to remind them, that we are neighbors, and I could have done this at any time. I choose to be on the right side of the law. Possessing a skill that can be used to break the law isn't much different than possessing a gun, or car, or hammer.... It's always the choice made by the individual.
As my grandfather used to say: A lock only keeps honest people honest.
It''s not specifically wrong, but you might wanna consider not freaking out your neighbors too much, considering, you know, you'll keep living close and such (better be a lil humble than go with a "I could've done this a loooong time ago..." stuff, might set their paranoia off)
Agreed! I've even helped the gas station attendant who asked if I had a really good set of bolt cutters because she locked herself out of the office 😂 she was so happy when I got into the office in a few seconds and disappointed in how the lock was so easily bypassed. This skill should be used for good.
@@mtacrdipo7870 That paranoia is very necessary. Considering these tools are readily available and the knowledge is free online. These people need to understand how truly easy an average door lock is and how extremely vulnerable they are. If anything, this neighbor giving them access to their own home should be a wakeup call to tighten their security.
@@RacingPepe The last thing people need is more paranoia. Tired of this mass hysteria that there is a boogie man around every corner, that the world is teeming with people who are going to break into your home and harm you.
"A lock only keeps honest people honest." Hm. Something to think about. I'd add "lazy" people to the list, but the deterrent value of a lock varies from opportunist to opportunist.
He could have picked the lock, emptied his locker, and replaced the lock before leaving. But no, he had to complete the crime by keeping the lock and sending it to a lawyer with a very popular CZcams account. Majestic!
"Have you heard about the guy who committed the perfect crime?"
"No?"
"That's the point."
I'm sure the public storage would have video footage or some other record of the person accessing the premises. They'd have to make sure to get in and out by tailing someone else, for starters and then avoid all cameras.
from what my friend experienced, the storage places don't actually care. Some random guy followed someone in, and didn't even use a lockpick. Just brute forced it with a huge set of bolt cutters. Took a bunch of his things, and left. The storage facility security was on duty at the time, the cameras caught it all, and they refused compensation, and told him to F off. They don't care about anyone, they just want their monthly rent money@@carlosf.8056
Even if he put it back, he'd still be breaking in...
@@FederalBurroOfInvestigationYup, that's the point. He might have gotten away with opening the lock and getting his stuff and leaving, but he went the extra mile flaunting it, which is crazy. It's like the guy who posts on facebook that he stole a soda from the 7-11 without anybody noticing.
Oh sweet, very nice addition to the covert companion.. I have one from a couple years back and don't have the removable folding pick set... will have to get one someday!
My storage company wouldn't allow me to pay online. And since I was technically set up for auto pay I didn't get sent bills only late notices. After it started going south with management and they started leaving locks on my unit not because I hadn't paid but because they didn't like me. I ended up filing a lawsuit and getting several months of free rent. But that lock only stopped me once, I liked leaving the cut up one on the floor as evidence for them.
I was a storage facility manager for 5 years, it started my fascination with locks & led me to your channel. I had been waiting for this video for a while, funnily enough it came soon after I switched industries and no longer work in self storage
I cut so many locks for people who lost their keys. I always wanted to start picking but was concerned how it might look to customers if a manager could easily pick his was into their unit. The sparks of an angle grinder really give the impression of security!
I had a similar situation. I worked in a gym where we would cut locks if a person left their items in a locker for over 24hrs. I always wanted to pick their locks but realized if anything went missing they could blame me if anyone knew I was studying lockpicking.
That really is a problem with this hobby. You want to share it with other people, but when something goes missing you don't want to be 'the guy that can pick locks'
@user-zm7qz5fq2dat work we used the master 175 so to get around people knowing I can bypass them I just taught everyone I could how to bypass them so I wouldn't be the only one even made a cut away so they could see what's happening
@@DJ_Locksmy ladies dad was unaware of my hobby until they locked the key inside their safe box. I could hear him stammering over the phone when she called me to ask if I could come down and open it up 😂
Also the reason why many locksmiths drill out locks as a default. They dont want customers to know how easy their locks are to pick
I love how even when lecturing someone about breaking the law and how they should not have sent in the lock... he still can't resist picking it.
Hypocrisy if you ask me
@@BD90.. Yeah I agree. He should've refused to pick this one, basically gave the person that sent it in what they wanted anyway.
Yep the dude is a straight up joke. Lost a lot of respect for him.
How much do you want to bet that "John Doe" used lock picks he got from Covert Companion to open it lol.
@@kmfdmww3 I don't think you get the point of this... It's basically a "I'm doing this so you don't have to" scenario. He's showing us it's fairly easy, like any lock if you put in the time to learn the skill, but more importantly he's cautioning viewers about the legality of the hobby.
Excellent device. Thanks for the video and information.
That's something I've always thought about when watching your content, you're a lawyer teaching things that 100% get used by criminals
"This lock was stolen, which I do not approve of. None of you should ever break the law... Which is why, to make sure you *DO NOT* ever try this, I'm gonna show you how to open the lock."
I love Lockpicking Lawyer.
Couldn’t resist lol
How is this any different from picking any other lock?
@@Lacroix999 Yeah, looks like the same ones they sell for moving with PODs.
Hey, guy picks locks. You put a lock in front of him, dude's gonna pick it.
@aoitamashii nice profile picture! Did you draw it?
LPL: please do not do this, you have committed 4 felonies.
McNally: you are dealing with a red lock of shame. We will be picking it with a Ryobi hammer drill.
Alternative: This is a red lock of shame. We will be opening it with this red lock of shame that I stole from my former landlord's nightstand while I was pouring the kerosine.
Dude could pick it with a piece of string, a sharpie, and a 6 inch section of aquarium tubing.
@@graydi66y change the sharpie to a pen and that seems more likely due to the spring being metal he could use it to prop the pins while the aquarium tubing puts tension and the string attaches it to his thumb so he can apply pressure.
@@graydi66y 4.3 inch
genuinly curious. is this really a law you break by getting your own items from a storage unit? isn't more of a civil case?
I got to legally pick one of thse. My boss owns a storage unit that he rents out. He hadn't gotten the notice of payment from one of his employees in finance, so he locked up the persons unit. Well he managed to lose the keys and was super sorry to his customer. So he called me and I was able to get it open for him. He gave the customer a full refund for the month as well as one month free. I was just happy to get to use lockpicking in a way that made both the lock owner, and the person effected by the lock happy.
Those crimes you mention are not necessarily felonies, especially when you factor in laws being different in different states. In Texas, theft of the lock itself is unlikely to be more than a misdemeanor (unless the lock is worth over $2500). Burglary (removing the lock to access the contents, which one has no legal right to when the rent has not been paid) would be a felony in most states, though. Also most storage units have an access code, also disabled when rent is late, which means another potential crime for bypassing the access control gates.
let me get this straight, i rent a place to store my stuff, and if i fail to pay my rent one time all the stuff stored in there just magically seizes to be my property? i never used a storage unit so i wouldnt know, i dont even think they are a thing where i live but this seems incredibly stupid
@@InvocareIgnis1 it's a similar situation to falling behind on apartment rent. They can legally evict you from an apartment and put a lien on your more valuable possessions to satisfy unpaid rent.
Bosnian Bill deserves a lot of credit.
Nice
Nice video
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Great 👍
If hes not gonna come out of retirement has he not heard of semi-retirement 😂
It should be noted that sometimes a lock doesn't have to be secure.
The renter of a storage unit obviously relies on reliable security to keep their items safe on a daily basis, but the lock out padlock for not paying your bill exists primarily as a "legal" lock. As noted, John committed at least 3 felonies ignoring the theft of the lock. The storage rental likely has him on camera, and they have his name, address, phone number, and probably more.
The "security" of this lock are the laws preventing legal entry, not the lock itself.
That is the security of most locks. Why so many are so easily picked.
Most of the places around where I live require a code to enter the property, one that is unique to the renter. And even if they tailgated someone else to get in, there are still cameras watching.
I agree with this, many of self storage places in my area do security in layers, I work in IT and can say what LPL does is the same for IT security. Relying on one lock and one lock only can be at times flimsy.
Heck, they could have used a serial numbered zip-tie type seal and John Doe would have put himself in the same legally dubious position.
@@JMcMillenEven so, John is the only one that should have a red lock, that doesn't have a red lock. The management definitely knows what happened by now, probably before the lock was even mailed.
Thank you. I have to pick locks for work ( not a locksmith or a criminal ) . You’ve been a great help
I think it would’ve been much funnier if he’d just opened the storage unit, emptied all his stuff out save for a few empty boxes of expensive brands, and put the lock back on. That would make a great Storage Wars episode and the storage place would make their money back.
John's powermove wasnt unlocking the door and taking his stuff back. It was taking his stuff back AND filling back the entire unit with packing peanuts.
Or... he could pay his bills?
@@jasonh.8754Nah that's lame
Or self expanding foam.
@@jasonh.8754 why dont homeless people just buy a house?
@@RealLenny because they're lazy
Getting this lock from a viewer must be like the equivalent of a cat dropping a dead mouse at your feet. With all the ick included.
That is a trophy gift in honor of your tutelage XD
With the added (time+money) cost of having to send it back. Thanks, but no thanks!
The average lock feels like that. Getting this lock moreso feels like the cat left a dead pet guinea pig at your door
Lmaoooo
Excelente video, me encanta LpL y creo que aprendí algo nuevo sobre cerraduras. Me gustó!!!!
As someone working in security I really appreciate your videos. Great work.
Many years ago, I got written up for not locking my desk. I went to the Security Manager (I also did projects for him) and said 'this is a joke'. These locks barely slow me down and proceeded to use my DESK KEY to bounce the lock pins of his: desk, file cabinet and storage cabinet... in less than 2 minutes. He was shocked that I did not need any tools. (I was also requested to not make this generally known at work)
At the last office I worked in, there were serrated letter openers on every other desk. They were effective for raking the locks for filing cabinets and cubicle storage.
1) 2 minutes is better than 0 minutes. 2) I think it's generally a good idea that locking up is enforced. It makes it clear that, unless you have the key, you are not supposed to look. 3) It would be unreasonable to pay expensive locks, so it's either cheap locks or no locks.
The main goal is to show that the location is intended to be secured. If you leave a desk drawer unlocked in a communal area, there is no criminal case if someone goes into the drawer and can claim "I was just looking for a pencil". Even if the lock is trivial, there could be security footage of someone picking the lock.
@@sandrorass890 Depends on the kind of office. Two minutes is enough to reasonably prevent the theft of office supplies at the workplace of the average paper pusher. However at say a law firm or a financial institution, or fortune 500 less than two minutes for three locks with no tools is more that enough to facilitate severe corporate espionage.
you also established to the Security Manager that YOU know how to get past the locks,so you become the first suspect if something goes missing from somebody's desk,or elsewhere.
I love a man who literally sells a 'Covert Companion' warning us that lockpicking might have legal thresholds.
Like in my area... not being a licensed locksmith, it is illegal to own.
@@wolphin732 Not sure where you live, but in most US states, mere possession of the tools is not illegal - there must be a criminal intent to do burglary with the tool or instrument.
There are legitimate reasons to want to open a lock in the field. But this absolutely is not one of them.
@@kindablue1959 That's how it is in Canada. You can own the tools, but if you're caught carrying them around, you had best have a good story prepared or you're going to be hit with possession of burglary tools.
In my case, I work in security, so I get a reasonable pass.
Fun fact: the world has many countries that aren't the United States!
My current storage company doesn’t use this type of lock, but we personally use this style lock. Our locks definitely have never opened as easily. The main part is a lot harder to slide, but the tumblers might be the same. A always was curious how had they were to break into. Thank you for the info. Hopefully it will keep my unit safe.
Great advise thanks.
3 minutes of free legal advice and a lock picked as well. Such good value!
If anybody ever puts LPL in jail, the jail house locks aren't gonna do much to keep him there
@@julianbrelsford LPL Video title: "How I got out of a SuperMax!" video length 8.5 minutes
lucky he is a lawyer because the watch time isnt bringing much in lol
Of course the legal advice takes longer than actually opening the lock. The law is like a lock, just harder to open.
@@petera.schneider2140There is no single set solution for any problem the law presents. Everything related to any law anywhere carries with it some amount of nuance. A given lock, has a given solution.
I straight up told a previous employer that I owned a set of lockpicks from a previous job where I was authorized to carry red team tools, and that I had some beginner-level skills in using them... then proceeded to give my boss and his boss a demonstration. While I was with that company, I was allowed to carry my lockpicks on the truck with me during my shifts and use them to support company operations as directed, because it was cheaper to pay me $50 to pick a lock that I needed open anyway than it was to send a locksmith. It was actually kinda cool to be in the legal clear to pick a lock or three that I didn't buy specifically for the purpose of practicing... it was also pretty nice to have immediate recourse if some warehouse type did me dirty and left a gladhand lock on an empty trailer that I was gonna have to take after hours
YWN.
You were nice enough to unlock the glad lock?
Our customer never seemed to figure out the uselessness of locking the trailer (because they’d either freeze up, they’d lose the key [so they’d break it off] or they’d forget it’s on there [and we’d break it off]. Especially because they were already hooked to our trucks (really hard to steal a trailer when it’s stuck between the dock and our truck).
@jaysmith1408 I wouldn't say I was nice for picking open that gladhand lock... more like I was tired and already pissed off because a load I was supposed to be picking up turned out to be vaporware, and I most definitely wasn't gonna bobtail all the way back to the yard to end my shift... so I raked that sucker open because I knew I could do that faster than I could break it off, and got the fuck out with my freshly liberated trailer behind me
Could someone translate the lingo in these comments? I'm so interested in whats going on but can't figure it out. What us a gladhand? vaporware? bobtail? and what industry/business is this? Shipping/trucking?
@@tehrater480 gladhand, the connection between air hoses, used on trucks and railways. Gets the name from appearing as two left hands shaking hands.
Bobtail, running a tractor trailer without a trailer, just the tractor.
thanks LPL. due to this video's title, I have gone ahead and LEGALLY robed a bank
very inormitive, and again, thanks for letting me know not to break the law.. otherwise i would've illegally robbed this bank 👍👍😃😃
First lock I picked was similar to this one. I say similar because this round lock was the one I used on my storage unit that I had, and when I moved everything out of it, I had no use for this lock, so I practiced picking it. I successfully picked it and was overjoyed when I did because aside from the training Lock I was sent with the lock pick kit, I had never successfully picked a lock. While I haven’t done anything with my minor skills, I was recently able to remove a broken key from a lock using similar skills. Saved my company about $500 dollars in replacing the lock. What did I get for compensation? “Thank you!”
This is a great example of the intent of the lock being more important than the function of it
Excellent point
It's like the lock version of aposematism.
I'm pretty sure it was a LPL video a few years ago that I read a comment along the lines of "a lock's job isn't to keep criminals out, because no lock is unpickable. Rather, a lock's job is to keep an honest person honest."
Yeah, we've got a law in Germany that puts "circumventing an effective protection" as illegal. (About protection of copyright material like DVD and BD Video)
The computer scientist's logic is, "when it can be cracked, it wasn't effective". But it looks like lawyers see it differently.
Guys...don't confess to a felony to a lawyer.
Better a lawyer than a police officer!
Clarification... Only confess to your lawyer. Also don't commit felonies.
unless you've already paid him a retainer
@@alisonpahlkotter3013 to *your* lawyer. Not a random one you found on the net.
Only after retention.
LPL: noooooo, no break duh law!
Also lpl: lol here's how you pick these different kinds of locks
Very good advice. I am teaching myself to be a Pentester/cybersecurity and have loved your videos and learned a lot. Two times I have been reminded to not display what I have learned.
1. My office requires a fob key to get in, I don't have one, and the bathroom is outside of our office. I got tired of waiting to get let in and disturbing people who were working, so I took a magazine to the bathroom with me, and when I came back I put it between the office doors, flicked it at the motion detector, and let myself in. Overjoyed at my success, I showed a video of me doing that to a coworker, and then 3 other people started doing that. STOP. YOU ARE GONNA GET ME IN TROUBLE.
2. Somebody I know REALLY wanted to record their favorite band, so I spoofed an email for them pretending to be the band (authority) and instructed the venue to let him in. The venue agreed, and the band (who had been unresponsive) finally spoke up and said "what the hell? I don't know who that is!". Well, my friend didn't want to let it go and kept wanting to try and argue his way in, despite me saying to STOP, THIS IS ENTERING FELONY TERRITORY AND YOU WILL LOSE YOUR RETIREMENT.
Thank you for the reminder. I think we just get excited sometimes and need to be told to calm down.
"you should not take off this lock... so here's how you unlock it" absolutely love these videos
😂😂😂
Those locks are used to steal peoples stuff so it's only fair everyone should know how to get through them.
I got one of these locks on my storage by mistake. (It was suppose to be on a different unit) I just went to the front desk, got it sorted out, they apologized and came out with me to unlock it.
@@joeycampbell940 Um, no. You signed the papers, it's not stealing.
@@EliBlackTV🤓
Best thing I have been told is "Locks are there to keep the honest person honest, if a criminal wants in they are getting in... the lock is the least of their concerns"
That sounds clever, but it's not true at all. Locks are there to make a target less attractive. If the difficulty of getting in outweighs the expected profits, the criminal will find another target.
@@SocratesAthI actually disagree with that, the more secure something looks can also be an indication of the value if there was a cardboard box or a safe on a shelf you think they are going for the box first?
@@sccsuk Depends how well-prepared they are, but look at it this way: opening the cardboard box will take two seconds, might as well do it before you get to work on the safe.
@@sccsukI'd take the box, cause the safe would be heavier, harder to access, and it's more suspicious to carry around.
@@SocratesAth a better example for attracting attention would be a pair of cabinets: one with the pre-installed cheap wafer lock, and another that has a bolted on padlock. You're going to need to break through a lock anyways, why not go for the one that was deemed important enough to put extra security on?
Security is a balance between difficulty and perceived value, ideally you want your stuff to look like it's not worth the difficulty to access
thanks i just picked the overlock on my storage unit took all my stuff out and then put the lock back on
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
As a part owner of a storage facility, thank you. We don't overlock, by the way. We work with customers who are behind and as a last resort clean them out. I've never understood overlocking, anyway. It encourages abandonment and sets a tone of noncooperation.
Unfortunately, we get taken for a months-long ride sometimes, too. It's hard to be nice to some people!
google tells me that overlocking is a kind of sewing machine stitch. what does it mean in the storage industry
I don't know if I'm using the correct lingo, actually. By overlocking I meant the act of putting a second lock on a customer's storage unit to lock the customer out.
Frankly, if a customer isn't going to pay, I would prefer they move as much of their stuff out as possible. It makes less for me to haul off now and less cause for argument later.@@tsm688
@@tsm688 Since the unit probably has the renter's lock on it, putting the red lock on as well. They can take their own lock.
Most storage unit latches have places for two locks, the customer's lock goes on one, and if they fail to pay, the manager puts their lock on it to deny customer entry until paid, that's overlocking, because the manager is putting their lock over the customer's lock. @@tsm688
When I worked at big storage chain, the standard policy when behind for a certain time period was cutting off their lock and putting a dinky blue lock there instead. This was after a big spiel about security and trying to upsell locks.
Those up sold locks were way overpriced too. Makes no sense to incur extra cost to the people who least could bear it :(
Nice to hear the name Bosnian Bill again, I hope he is happy and well
So genuine question, if you take that lock off then grab all your stuff from inside of a storage locker- can they sue you for stealing the stuff inside, or only for not paying the rent?
Depends on where you are in the property seizure process.
Neither if you're skilled enough
Of Course!!!! Always love your work!
this is like when a father is secretly proud of his son for doing something cool (but stupid) but still has to save face by scolding him XD
"I'm not mad I'm just concerned"
I can’t wait for that day! My kids are very young and I worry they won’t get into “good” sorts of trouble like we used to. I ollie’d 12 stairs on my skateboard when I was 13 and I remember the look on my dads face when he was punishing me for risking such a serious injury. Priceless!
4 felonies? Better wipe your prints off the lock😂
I thought that exactly.🤣
Too late, next episode, how to pick the jail cell with a toothpick.
I don't know much about US law, but there's no way stealing a lock is a felony, let alone 4 different ones. That's absurd.
On second thought, from the little I do know about US law, that sounds about right.
@@EllaKarhu I don't think it's the stealing of the lock, more about breaking and entering the storage facility
In many states $20+ still constitutes a felony. Corporate prices are crazy, wouldn't surprise me if this was itemized closer to $100. Then they moved stolen property across state lines. Then breaking and entry. Guessing the last one is for using the postal service to transfer stolen property but IDK really. @@EllaKarhu
Haven't watched you videos for a long time and what a particular video to join back in😂
After the Christmas break work put notices on all the bicycles and locks on the bicycle racks at work. You were meant to contact management for an inventory. After a while the bikes that were still there with no reply or the signs on had locks fitted to them to see if people were using them. It’s now April and work has run out of moves - there’s still like 2 dozen old bicycles now double locked to the racks not going anywhere lol.
I keep thinking of trying to pick the lock on the bike near where I leave mine but don’t want to get fired lol - I already got pretty good at picking my locker - but I’m pretty sure they don’t have cameras in the changing rooms.
On my first day working at a bank the manager showed me a place where they stored extra cash. I almost blurted out that those locks are super easy to pick, but that little voice in the back of my head was able to shut me up just in time 😂
Later on, after mutual trust had been established, I did mention just how unsecure those locks were.
Close one!
*insecure
@@teeanahera8949 Why is it that the antithesis of secure is "insecure" rather than unsecure? Just curious if there is a reason why it is different than the normal opposite of words like (orthodox/unorthodox, friendly/unfriendly, - not sure if there is a blanket word for types of words that have an opposite meaning)
@@brunomcleod "secure" has a Latin root, just like "flammable"
I too worked at a major big name bank, the large vault safes were notorious for flying open if someone just shaked on them the right way
It is perfectly possible that this was the manager of the storage facility that sent you the red lock of shame. Perhaps just to see how effective it actually was.
Uhh...Yeah! Yeah that's it!
@@wildcard9724
Hey if I'm putting a lock on something I want to know if it's a Master Lock first.
Yeah, but... They sent him a letter saying otherwise...
@@sauercrowder Sure but that could just be the manager role playing to make the experience more authentic for the Lockpicking Lawyer. Totally.
@@Ristaak
Well yeah, possibly I guess.
If we're going by "could be" however, we can make up pretty much _anything_ to explain how or why the lock got there.
Good job for acknowledging this.
LPL Probably just ordered this lock online where they are easy to get, but honestly I love the story! It's great and it's what makes this channel so good!
That outro... I hope Bill is doing well wherever he is.
Yeah, that made me very nostalgic for a bit
Two more years and he will be back in the streets. Or so I've heard. Edit: yes, it was a joke following the spirit of this video.
what have you heard exactly? last i heard he just retired from CZcams to be with his family more.
@@SpyroTheEternalNight Believe that was just a joke that Bill went to jail for not staying legal.
@@SpyroTheEternalNightit's a joke
I still miss Bill, especially when you guys would team up.
Hope he's doing well.
Every time you pull out the "pick that Bosnian Bill and I made," it's like a visit from an old friend.
I miss Bill too.
Its been too long. Time for a lock that needs that pick.
I hope that he is well..
I also went Into the comments to see if somebody had somethingto say about Bill, he got me back into de hobby of lockpicking and make the choice of lockpicks that I needed to buy.
Taking the locks off of storage units is always cool and good.
I like your channel, it exposes the weaknesses of locks. I guess all padlocks can be opened by brute force but I wonder if a ball bearing lock can be opened by an open wrench attack?
Several years ago I got locked out of my apartment. No keys phone or wallet. Couldn’t call the landlord or a locksmith. A cop advised going to the fire station (close by) and they graciously said they’d help. Unfortunately they had to pry my door open, breaking the door frame in the process. “That’ll cost me some $ I thought.” Well it turns out local code requires apts to have “fire-proof” doors which meant extensive repairs (not just the door frame) Cost me $1500. 2 positives came out of that exp. (1) I finally started learning lock picking and (2) at least I got to ride in a fire truck. (Although it probably wasn’t worth $1500).
Thanks to Lock Picking lawyer, Bosnian Bill and Locknoob I now have the skill to get into my home if forget or lose my keys!
"Jon broke the law, but since this lock is here I might as well show you how easy it is to bypass it"
Pick your locks responsibly, folks!
10/10, love it, will watch again
So in short: the lock was picked, the bill was paid, so John’s would be cell mate, didn’t get… look, the moral is don’t borrow things without permission.
That's funny! I've been locked out of my Storage Unit 2 times, yes the first time I was 2 Days late paying the Bill as I thought I signed up for Direct Debit when I rented it & they had removed the Electronic 'Lock' enabling me to get into the Premises but were just too Lazy(or forgot) to remove the physical Lock & the Second time it was meant for the Unit Beside mine! The last one was a pain because I went at Night to Collect an item I had for Sale & had to wait until the Morning for them to remove the Padlock!
Just for the benefit of the doubt, there are a lot of slimy storage places out there doing things they shouldn't and then hold your property ransom.... I've had to deal with one like this.
I hope Bill is enjoying his retirement, I miss hearing “Stay Safe, Stay Legal”
I miss hearing "the pick BosnianBill and I made"
Same!
Hope he comes back one day 😢
He quit CZcams?
@@jsmith5443 Yeah, family issues. I think he took in the kid of a late friend.
Thankyou very usefull video i learned new law and amazing video i like it and i am shared my friends
Hello LPL! So, I have a similar (insert fancy pad lock name I do not know) lock that I have been practicing on, and I noticed the red lock has the exact same keyway that twists a bit at the top. This twist makes a little hook inside that makes it almost impossible for me to work a pick around. I have yet to succeed with this lock, and by watching your fingers here I hope I might finally get it.
EDIT: OMG you are using the CCompanion! I have one!!
Now I really want to watch a 30+ minute long lecture from LPL about the laws and issues surrounding lockpicking. Would be a great opportunity for him to show off some skills we don't normally see in his videos.
Rule 1. Only pick locks YOU own.
Rule 2. Only pick locks you don’t plan to use to lock things up.
Rule 3. IF you must pick a lock in use verify the lock works with key BEFORE securing the item.
Pretty much guaranteed he will never do a deep dive into it, since it varies so much by jurisdiction and he don't want anyone to take it as legal advice.
An 'ethics of lockpicking' TED talk would be phenomenal.
There is a video of him doing just that. :D have fun finding it, I will say it was a joy to watch.
@@richardbias9041TOOOL says it as:
1) Never pick a lock you don't own.
2) Never pick a lock that needs to work.
I'm convinced that the purpose of many locks is not to keep people out, but to be 'exhibit A' when they get in, and that this explains why bad locks are so common. Most people would rather lose a lock than a door to a determined entrant.
That doesn't explain locks that are easy to pick, because picking a lock usually leaves no evidence of breaking and entering, unlike breaking doors!
That's the benefit of lock picking: you can't prove it afterwards!
The reason why bad locks are common is because your typical burglars don't profit from that benefit, because the stuff they steal and the mess they make while searching for stuff worth stealing creates more than enough evidence of the burglary anyway, so why bother keeping the lock and door intact?
Lockpicking is only worth it for criminals looking to secretly steal information, but most people don't have secret information at home that anyone would break into their house for.
@@LRM12o8 You can, to a certain extent, prove it afterwards. Deviant Ollam has done a couple of videos on lock forensics that are worth a look.
All most locks do is either slow a good thief down, or keep partly honest people, MORE HONEST.
@@LRM12o8a good forensic investigator can absolutely tell that a lock has been picked
Well not every thief can pick locks the way LPL can either. Helps to remember that.
Yes. A good thing, it will always come in handy, everything happens in life.
I do miss Bosnianbill and his funny videos. Back in the years 2017-2019, I made many challenge locks for him and he was able to pick or rake open all of them, which was a sign that his skill was improving. Condolences to Bill’s friend who died due to COVID-19. I did actually had it for the first time in September 2023 and it really does knock you out, but my fever did break after two days and I was able to return to normal activities after five more days. I do believe that Bill still has one of my challenge locks, which I will allow him to keep to remember me.
Bosnian Bill deserves a lot of credit. We miss his regular content.
Bosnian Bill is, and will always be, the OG of legitimising locksport. Former FBI agent, avid Master Lock hater, the epitome of wholesomeness and a gift to the community for the time we had him.
@@andersjjensenwhat happened to em?
@@Hawthorne204wanted to spend more time with the family
Who is that?
@JustSomeWeirdo Bosnian Bill is, and will always be, the OG of legitimising locksport. Former FBI agent, avid Master Lock hater, the epitome of wholesomeness and a gift to the community for the time we had him.
Love how you have rose to so much fame now and still reference Bosnian Bill. He will forever be a legend in my books. Thanks for video LPL.
@@user-zm7qz5fq2d Bosnian Bill
@@user-zm7qz5fq2d Bosnian Bill , He's also a very talented locksmith. An older military guy. If I am not mistaken he was kind of the one that got LPL into locksmithing or learning how to when he first started up. He has his own CZcams channel but retired from posting anymore videos. He is really funny I think and talented as well. LPL and him also made a lockpicking tool together as well.
Oh man, I miss BosnianBill so much... I started at his channel and ended on yours when I saw him mention you in some video. It's nice to see that you still think of him!
5 years ago a buddy of mine had one of these appear on his unit. I picked it and locked it on the unit next to his. It was chalked up to a simple misunderstanding, and by the time they got it sorted out he had his unit cleaned out.
This channel saved the day for me, we had a "cheap" combination lock at work that nobody knew the code for... A little tension on the shackle and going through the combinations I got it unlocked 😂 boss bought lunch for me that day
Nicely done!
how long did it take you?
@@nonimus6269 the combination lock? uhm... like 5-10 seconds 😅
@@willies545 Funny you say that, i met a girlfriend that way. She had forgotten her code, i offered to open the cheap masterlock combination padlocks the university uses and, like you, it took me the best part of 10 seconds to pop it open. She was both impressed and a little freaked out that someone could open a lock like this!