ULTIMATE Gaming Mouse? Pulsar Xlite V3 vs V3 ES vs Lamzu Thorn!
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Thanks for the video. I winded up returning my EC2-CW for the regular V3 and it's a night and day difference
Been waiting for a vid comparing the big ergo competitors. good work, not alot of filler and also very helpful
Glad you liked it!
Nice. Probably the first and most descriptive review of the ES and normal versions, especially comparison wise.
Glad you liked it!
@@ZXTechno no. We didn't like it. We loved it!
Love the vid. Still waiting for my V3 ES to arrive. Keep it up sir.
Thanks for the support!
update? hand size?
also planning to buy the v3 but im still torn between v3 or the dav3
im so happy after pre-ordering this mouse before any reviews were out.
Sick
Thanks mate. Still somewhat worried about the QC but honestly I'll probably get an Xlite V3 and see if it's good for me.
I just ordered pulsar and endgame mice recently. And it’s my first time focusing on the coating. It’s actually transforming the way I play. A good coating means just as much as shape to me. The OP1 literally sticks to my hand
great comprehensive review, thumbs up.
Much appreciated!
Had mine for a couple days, it is in my top 2 out of the 10+ mice ive owned, right next to my starlight 12 tenz m. for the money nothing comes near it, and the 8000 hz is hot fire and is super stable on my sytem
i have a RVMSE and thinking of grabbing the v3 eS
Man hell of a review, subscribed for more ❤️
Much appreciated!
I previously used the Logitech G Pro Superlight, but found it uncomfortable due to my hand size, which is around 18 by 9 cm. When using a palm grip, I felt like I couldn't fully grasp the mouse. I also own a Lamzu Maya, which is a smaller version of the G Pro Superlight and feels more comfortable, but I'm still searching for an even better fit. After researching , the Pulsar X3 Lite caught my attention as it is designed for palm grip users. However, based on EloShapes, it appears to be comparable in size to the Logitech, slightly larger, while the small version is similar to the Maya. Do you think upgrading to the Pulsar X3 Lite would be a good choice for me?
What I'm specifically looking for in an upgrade is a mouse with a hump that either goes up or maintains a similar height, avoiding a downward slope. The objective is to fill the space between my palm and fingers, not entirely but sufficiently, akin to the comfort level provided by the Logitech G Pro Superlight. Do you think the Pulsar X3 Lite would be a suitable upgrade?
Nice review! Exactly what i needed :)
Glad to be of help
thank you for this review!
Glad it was helpful!
As for V3 and V3 es - the shape is the same, but the dimensions are different, it even says so on the product page.
It's minimal though, like ~ 1mm difference across all dimensions.
How light/loose does the alu scroll wheel feel against the regular wheel? Do you have any mice that you think the wheel seems similar to as a point of comparison? I like the Xlite v3 wheel, but I think the ES might be more comfortable on account of the increased weight
GPX2 vs DAV3 vs Xlite V3 (medium or large) vs Thorn for 20x11 hands using palm or very relaxed claw grip?
My hand is 17.5 9 10 I use palm grip and ogm pro feels a little big and heavy for me would pular v3 mini a good choice for me?
My hand is 22x11 and I use palm. Do you recommend the Pulsar V3 ES for me?
Great video! Was hoping to see it up against the Vaxee Outset XA 😢
They dont ship anything in APAC man its sooooo hard for me to buy it LOL
Someday he will get a vaxee mouse
@c0ffeefather already ordered off his comment
AMAZING@@ZXTech which one or ones did you get?
relaxed claw grip, 17x10 hand size. im using g pro x superlight now have been considering lamzu thorn or pulsar xlite v3 couldnt make the decision.
play cs most of the time btw
I like the pulsar xv2 mini so the v3 is probably even better. I'm looking into getting the final mouse ultralight as my endgame though
i waited so long for this video and comparison! ty
Glad you liked it!
thank you for mentioning the relative size vs the ec2 and ec3, i was planning on getting the medium but if it feels smaller in the hand i might just wait for the large.
i prefer the general feel of mice like the model d, deathadder v3 (minus the sharp corner on the top right side), so seems like the large xlite v3 is the way to go.
Happy to help!
@ZXTECH How is the scroll-wheel CLICKING on the none ES one? On mine, it's super stiff/heavy, requires so much more force than on my other mice I ever tried.
Mine is fine it might be qc
Was debating the three plus the Atlantis. I’m coming from a deathadder v3 pro. Which would you think I should try first?
Xlite is more similar
Man this year only drops bombs , first i got the lamzu thorn fnc edition, after that i was hooked on all 3 zowie ec-cw ( and damn i love all three of them even the ec1 , i only have 18x7.5cm hands , but they fit like a glove) and now pulsar is dropping an zowie clone with really nice switches
My wallet will jump down a drain haha and as always really nice review ❤
Not even a clone tbh, an ec3 with ec2-ish dimensions
Which one has more click pressure between 'lite V3' and 'lamzu'?
I have a DAV3 and I've always struggled with the size. It's very comfortable but I find myself adjusting my palm grip every few minutes.
U might like this then
@@ZXTechhow much smaller is it compared to the DAV3
Just got the lamzu thorn x fnatic pretty hyped been using a razer basilisk with a broken scroll wheel for apex and the basilisk is huge so im hoping it was worth the 100 dollars🤞
Nice
Might just be the color but I have my money to Lamzu for that orange Fnatic edition, then the vaxee ax outset came out, haven’t watched a review yet. I might have made a mistake, but I did just get a wlmouse beast x and it is great! Edit: I’m broke now, wahoo!
We're broke now, wahoo!!
Any recommendations for small hands(claw grip)? Preferably budget mouse but if not possible it's alright as well
Lamzu atlantis mini, pulsar x2, op1we
what would you recommend ec3-cw or xlite v3 eS for 18x9 cm hand relax claw and palm grip?
V3
Would’ve loved to see either the dav3 or the outset ax wireless. Would be a cool end of year video maybe
Order the outset
Ordered*
@@ZXTech that’s awesome! Not trying to hate by any means, a really cool video regardless. Feel like you’re explanations on why each mouse is good at what is super important and insightful. Cant wait for whatever video you do with the ax!
Great review. the background music was a little loud/distracting. I'd rather just hear your voice
Im dying wait zowie s2 wireless, I'm already 31. How long I wait until s2 wireless release???
Which switch do you think feels better? Logitech GPX 2 switches or the switches on the xlite v3?
V3 are stiffer but crisper. Gpx for lighter switches
I have been using the Xlite v2 since launch day, the shape just fits my hand perfectly. The clicks were a bit stiff out of the box, but they actually wore in nicely and are now medium to light presses to actuate them.
Nice! But do note the sizing is different from the V3 to the V2.
Can u tell how they r different plez @@ZXTech
I think its very slight, but it feels tweaked, ill have to look into it
I have both the Xlite v3 and the Thorn. The thorn absolutely blows the Xlite out of the water. It’s honestly one of my favorite mice.
How so? I think both are pretty neck and neck
I get used in my craw grip on the GPW, from 1 to superlight and currently using superlight 2😅, now still considering should I get a Viper V2 pro to try or Lamzu Atlantis, but this pulsar seems interesting 😮
If u are using claw grip, i can recommend Lamzu atlantis, it is an insane mouse
All the options you listed will be very interesting! I recommend the Atlantis coming from the GPX, since it has a similar size and hump height but lower clicks
@@ZXTech honestly, I built my first PC purposely for Modern Warfare 2019, and now it's purely for Warzone 2…only one game on my PC 🤣
I was wondering when will you do the review for the gaming headset, coz most of your videos talked about gaming mice.
I've been using the viper for a long time now because my GPX had QC issues, I recommend the atlantis over the viper 10 fold, currently waiting on my Beast X to arrive personally.
Good review. But isnt it more like the ec2? I thought the v3 would be the same shape as v2, which was more alike ec2 than ec3
Definitely more like the ec3, i have both the ec3 and ec2 and can say that much
Don't listen to him the Xlite v2 and v3 are almost identical to the ec2. The ec3 will feel noticably smaller.
Came here to say the same thing. It's an ec2 clone not ec3, when the small size releases it will be an ec3 clone.
É só pegar as medidas ec2 = xite V2 e V3. O Thorn é um pouco menor. O Ec3 e AX são os menores
Ec1 > Ec2 = xlite V2 e V3 > Thorn > Ec3 = AX
In an earlier shorts video you called the scroll whell magnesium. I think in this one you say it is aluminum. Can you confirm which is it?
can't you google it?
Aluminium, i messed up in that video :(
who is the zowie ec1-cw for? i have big hands and play palm grip and was thinking about waiting for the xlite v3 size 3 but saw its a bit smaller than the dav3 so i was wondering if the ec1 would be better fit for me
Size wise it goes like (big to small) ec1, dav3, ec2 , thorn, xlite v3 size 2, ec3
WTF? Thor Dimensões: 119 mm (C) x 65 mm (L) x 42 mm (A)
Xlite v3es = 122 mm (C) x 67 mm (L) x 43 mm (A)
How could you say that v3 is smaller than Thorn?
And Vaxee ax 116 x 66 x 43
I’m here because the scroll wheel on my 100$ razor v3 pro is already failing…thanks for the recommendation.
You should reach out to their support
I don't find coating as important given that I can just apply grip tape
Got the ES a couple weeks ago and all of a sudden my LED screen went out… anyone else?
I don’t like the Xlite v3 es because with no software support you are forced into the dpi settings the mouse comes with. That was a deal breaker for me as I game at a setting that is in between the options the mouse offers
Fair enough.
The Sprime PM1 would likely kill the xlite v3 but idk abt the es edition since it has more features
@@Divinity_vA i guess its more expensive due to the mouse being made from carbon fiber plus with the 8k hz dongle
Carbon Fibre??? That definitely aint gonna be cheap
@@ZXTech sorry its actually made from fiber composite material which i didnt do any research if its the same thing as carbon fiber 🙄
I hate holes in the bottom of mice. It makes no difference, and it just adds more areas for gunk to get inside the mouse.
Low-key think they do it to flex the sick pcb design lmao
anyone else have charging issues on their xlite v3 eS? slow charging or not charging at all
i had an xlite v2 for over a year, and long term opinion - it didn't feel perfect. Microadjustments were horrible, and there was a big gap in my palm cuz it didnt fill it. The middle hump kinda annoyed me (prefer slightly back hump ergos). If the V3 has the same shape, then its a pass from me. Even if the sizing is different, shape stays. Thats why i ordered the thorn not so long ago
Outset and keris 💪
@@eirin099 💀💀💀💀
The thorn has a puffier shape as I mentioned so by the sounds of it it might be better for you, hope it works out!
Hand size?
@@kennethng9653 18.6 x 10.5
are there any other options for a shape similar to Zowie EC1?
Glorious d series
Hi , can i still use 1000 hz polling rate with the eS?
Yep
can you setup the dpi on the es xlite v3 to 600?
Yes
Which one do u prefer though between the thorn or xlite
Me? Xlite shape cos i like grooves, but thorns clicks are lighter so i prefer those. Its so neck and neck
@@ZXTech i have deathadder v3 and find it ever so slightly too big and I hate the coating. Does the Thorn feel smaller?
@@kurttomlinsoncompositions1067yes
@@kurttomlinsoncompositions1067 Yes it definitely feels smaller
What is your favorite? Es or v3 ? What do you main ?
Normal V3 cos i like lightness(but i wish I had an ES that was 55grams tbh)
The display is a nice gimmick, but do you know why it didn't catch on? Like the Steelseries Xai, for example? You usually only use it once. If you buy a mouse that can save your settings, you install the software once, set everything up and uninstall it again. After that you usually don't adjust anything anymore.
The difference between this and the Xai is that this is wireless. The screen is especially useful for that, since it allows you to check the precise battery life without any software. Since this is also targeted towards eSports people, being able to change various settings on-the-fly without any software is certainly useful.
Wireless makes a big difference here, and also theres alot more settings to change than just DPI and polling rate now, with LOD and Debounce delay. Plus, its just cool so why not LOL
can i put the PTFE of the V2 on the V3? please help ty
cause they dont sell ptfe for v3
They dont sell the ptfe yet - jsut wait
So far any qc issues on the xlite v3?
Nope
@@ZXTech thanks
Bro, can i put 600dpi with the xlite v3 software ?
Stop lol
Yes but don’t do it
Too big for me, I still waiting for a Razer Deathadder V3 Mini ❤ Wired of course, I don't like wireless hit.
How small do u want it lol i think theres gonna be a xlite mini
A little bit smaller than cooler master mm730 or same size of the vancer pollux.❤
@@ZXTechhey thanks❤, I just go to compare the vancer pollux and pulsar xlite v3 mini in eloshapes, pulsar is even smaller❤
The initial release is for the medium size, small will come later.
Whats the difference between the 2 pulsars???
Bro watch the video
I would've gotten the es but that red square at the bottom was triggering me
Fair nuff - I think its meant to evoke Zowie LOL
Which Size it is? The Normal Version = Medium?
Yes size 2
Why are you comparing the size to an EC3 instead of an EC2?
Because its closer size wise and I have used both quite extensively to tell.
@@ZXTech But the EC3 is 199x66x41, the Xlite is 122x66x43 and the EC2 is 123x65x42 so surely it feels closer to the EC2 no? I have an EC2-C and I love it but I'm thinking of getting the Xlite V3 since it's so close and almost 20g lighter and wireless
@@yeeee859 Im really confused, because it feels so much closer to the 3 for me. I think its the angle of the tilt, and the fact that the rear end of the EC2 is very puffy while its front end is slim, and that rear flared arch affects me more with my shorter fingers I think
Want to buy the Xlite v3 eS, do you think it is good for counterstrike?
Yeah why not
this might be the best mouse
If its the right shape for you, possibly.
D-do you not know about the ec2? It’s a literal clone just like the smaller will be a clone of the ec3 and large will be a clone of the ec1 lol
The ec2 and 3 shape is different. I reviewed both. The two is noticeably bigger has a bit more tilt than the ec3. The ec2 is also noteably taller and wider
Its also noticeably bigger than the thorn and the xlite imo
@@ZXTech ?????? Xlite v3 eS size 2 and ec2-cw are the same size I have them right in front of me right now and have been an ec2 user since 2010 😬 almost identical lol
Steelseries did that screen 15 years ago. Really. 15 years ago.
Thats cool! Im glad to see it here anyway :)
Does your brother review TV's?
My brother? I aint got no brother
@@ZXTech ahh ok. I thought the guy from HDTVTest was your bro. Maybe he's your Dad
@e.e121 bro saw two asian tech guys and plotted a whole ass family tree LOL
0:50 Zowie EC2-CW*
No, the ec3. Its side by side with the ec3, and its very apparent in the footage how close it is to the ec3. I have no idea where this keeps coming from, maybe the suze is different from the v2
I think it also is a shape thing lol
Didnt have a ec2 at home?
Its closer in feel to ec3.
Scrollwheel is magnesium, not aluminum......because thats important lol
Is aluminium…. Check their site. I got it wrong in my short
@@ZXTech They used magnesium in their marketing.... really strange thing to change at release.
@S4WYERonPC tbf, doubt theres a mega difference
@@ZXTech I agree with you. I just received mine yesterday, and I couldn't tell you either way. I'm hoping they do a size 3 (I know they're doing a size 3 in the V3, but I'm not sure if that will carry over to the eS)....I swap between the DAV3 and the X2H...I would get the "stepped clicks" on my X2H....the V3 eS feels nicer for sure.
man is only 400-800-1600-3200-6400-12800 that is it i cand cahnge 1000hz cuz program don't work!
U can use the software surely
i cant dont let me go@@ZXTech
The ES version doesnt get read in the software you can do it all on the mouse. Read the manuals that come with to see how to change the settings you want otherwise pulsar has a tutorial on their CZcams showing how. The real bummer is only the preset DPI settings and no custom bindings because no software.
What’s with all the ec3 comparisons? It’s an ec2 clone…
People keep saying that. Its so much closer size wise to the ec3 and shape wise lol. The ec2 is bigger in the hand feel wise. You can see the ec3 side by side in the footage and its really close to the xlite size 2.
I think its related to how the ec2 has a really bulbous rear end, i feel it alot more than some, and the xlite v3 have a more gentle flare at the rear of the mouse makes it alot smaller feeling for me.