Responding to Video: Don't Waste Your Money On A F450!
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JD, we really appreciate you watching our video and for making a video giving your thoughts on the tests we did! We appreciate the shout-out as well! You're one of the reasons we decided a F350 was the best option for our set-up, versus the F450 we originally thought we needed!
Why???
What you wrote is silly. Of course you were being negative. You’d never have responded this way had someone with a larger channel not said something. He’s taking the high road, you’re taking damage control lmmfao.
JD, you are generous and kind. Not everyone on CZcams is so willing to call out others well done content. I saw that video before you commented on it and you are truck/RV OG so I am sure it means a lot to them. Thanks for showing you are once again an all-around great guy.
I like your position on the F450. Your videos helped me choose the F350 DRW w/ 4.10 rears as a compromise as a full-time RV situation. Pure towing I would of went with the F450 but where we stay two to four weeks in a spot we had to factor in that we are using it as our daily driver when disconnected. My next investment will be the airbags in the rear. Towing I handle the eastern mountains like a boss and never lose speed. Choose what is right for you! Keep up the great work
I've driven/test drove a few F450's. Actually drove and rode really well. And...if I ever towed, it would be a F450. Hands down. Great video.
JD, you have NEVER said that we need an F450...EVER! You recommend the ¾ ton or 1 ton single rear wheel truck...occasionally you say 1 ton dually pickup truck. You are an engineer so safety is the number one priory for you...and you express that when you review an RV. I appreciate your candor and your opinion on the safety side of your reviews! Keep it up sir!!!
That Paving New Paths video has almost convinced me to keep my 2016 F350 tow boss. Wide track frt axle, 4:30 rear gear. Platinum edition. Was supposed to be my bandaid for F450 that’s been in order for almost a year!!!!
Great video JD. I don’t think I have ever watched a video in which you side an F-450 would be the truck to have for any any 5th wheel or TT. You’ve have mentioned 1/2, 3/4 an 1 ton trucks and I’ve been watching your channel for almost 5 years now. Thanks for sharing all the information and content you do.
Wide track front and fenders look cooler, turning radius, and the F-450 badge on the side are the reasons I drive an F450.
I was going to buy an F-350, but the dealer didn't have one in stock (model year end deal shopping). When I drove the F-450 and experienced the wide track front suspension, I was sold. Kevin @ Paving New Paths did a great job of doing a side-by-side comparison of the weights, capacities, running over the scales, and turning capabilities. Both are great trucks, but neither is perfect for every application. I'm certain I would have been happier with the better fuel economy on the F-350!
JD, thank you for being the knowledgeable and humble guy you are. That was nice of you to acknowledge their well done video - I watched it before this video (am subscribed to both channels).
I absolutely agree with you in that you do not try to push an F-450 on everyone. I always hear you mention all kinds of other truck sizes as suitable potentials for all sorts of campers. Well done JD!
The right tool for the right job! It is that simple. Know what you are needing and buy accordingly. All trucks are made up of a series of compromises - doing some things well and other things not so well! Great video and keep up the good work.
Great video.
The travel community is very collaborative and supportive.
You are spot on that every rig has its place and one doesn’t fit all.
I’ve owned both. I settled on a F350 for the ride and tires. If the 350 had the turning radius of the 450, it would be gold.
I had a 2017 F350 and loved it. Just got a 2020 F450 and it was the best decision I ever made. I have a GD 399TH and just the piece of mind towing and the awesome turning radius is worth the up charge. Love your channel.
Great vid. Just bought a 2022 F-450 and I was blown away by the ride quality. Averaging 15 mpg as well so not too disastrous. Love the 48 gallon tank and love that it pulls out 15k lbs. 5th wheel like it’s not there. The tracking on the road is a bit disconcerting but apart from that it’s the best vehicle I’ve owned.
idk, seems to me like you've always been honest and forthcoming. You're always coming from a place of safety first which is great to hear because in the RV/truck market it's easy to get a lot of bad information.
when we had an opportunity to buy a better pickup for our fifth wheel, a Grand Design Reflection 31MB, i chose a Ram 3500srw with the Aisen transmission and a 50 gallon fuel tank. We have taken 8 trips across Texas from our hill country home and have had zero problems along with better braking and control. The previous pickup worked okay, but was too small and we knew it. My wife did NOT want any dually as she would often drive it often (usually unloaded). She loves the pickup (except for parking, but we live in a rural community). It has been a boon to our travel with plenty of payload and capability, especially since we added the goose box to the trailer! It also is a more practical vehicle than any dually, even though they have even better control. We plan on staying around 12,000 lbs. GVWR on any future trailer so our needs won't change. Thanks for your insane amount of work you do for content!
Because of your content and recommendations we replaced our single axle F350, with a F350 DRW. Does a fine job pulling our 5th wheel and I really don’t miss the enhanced steering. Thanks JD.
Whoever reads that far into your videos needs to find something else to do with there time. No body in their right mind would think that the F450 is the must have for any towing application. Keep up the good work, you make very informative videos for anyone that is willing to listen.
Just came across this video. You do a good job with your videos, I like your approach and honesty. I have a 2018 F-450 and absolutely love it as well. It was not my daily driver until about a year ago and your comments on the daily driver aspects are spot on. Nothing needs to be said in terms of towing and payload, IMO its the best truck out there.
When I saw that video in my feed I immediately wondered … what are bud truck big rv’s thoughts on this …
This is why I follow your channel! To get advise on what trucks are needed to pull different types of campers!
Thank you JD…. as I was ordering my new truck, you helped us realize the differences between the F350 and F450 perameters. I went with the F450 and I’m so glad I did as we have a 43’ fifth wheel and the slight differences made so much difference in our application. Like you state… it’s all about your situation and my wife and I are so thankful for your insight and knowledge that helped us be so comfortable and confident with our choices. Thanks again and keep up the awesome job of helping us get it right the first time. 🙏🏻
If ya don’t mind sharing what kinda fifth wheel do you have? We are about 12 months out from ordering a truck and are looking at a Beacon and I am concerned about pin weight.
@@Atxjrdguy We have a 43’ Keystone Avalanche 390ds. It weighs in dry at 14,140 and 16,500max. Our F450 is technically overkill but it is extremely stable and when a semi passes, it doesn’t even budge us. As you may have heard… one of my favorite aspects of this truck is the turning radius. I’ve gotten into campsites with ease that I feel wouldn’t have happened without that capability. I’ve even had other campers tell me they never thought I’d get this rig into the site. This truck has given so much confidence with anything I need it to do. As far as pin weight, I can’t say since I don’t know what my pin weight is, but I don’t have bags on the 450 and it is smooth and stable at all times with our camper, and is still level without the bags. Other thing is, those commercial 19.5 rims/tires absolutely make a difference in stability over 17” 350 regular tires from what I’ve learned from other campers with 350’s. Hope this info helps in some way.
Thats awesome JD that you complemented Kevin and their channel on the video!!! I watched that video several days ago and I totally agree with you, they knocked that outta the park…vereee comprehensive!!!
I have been following their channel and thoroughly enjoy it!!! They cover a wide range of family outings, their trips, campground info/reviews, and Kevin does a superb job of explaining the maintenance, repair, and troubleshooting on all aspects of the RV in addition to the truck. IMHO, I think his channel is going to expand exponentially bcuz of your positive “shout out” on his video review!!! Way to go Kevin!!! You got JD covering your 6 o’clock. 👍😃🍻
Great content for sure!
JD I own 2014 F450 pickup lariat with 203k miles.
I own 4 different trailers I tow with this…
I agree this is the best truck I ever owned!
I do all the maintenance and repairs on my truck.
Heck I just got back to California driving a 1300 mile stretch towing 14000 lbs. Every time I turn that wheel in a tight situation I thank my discussion of buying 450 over 350
Love the content, I took your comments to heart when I was looking for my own truck. The only thing that I was set on with my own truck is the transmission. I wanted a manual transmission. It took me a year to find one but I got it and enjoy it. I thank you for all your content and how it helped me with my search.
I’m running a 2006 F450 for transporting all my hay and it is absolutely perfect! The turning radius and braking can’t be beat
I d o appreciate your honest assessment. It is refreshing to get information without needing to decipher or read between the lines. Excellent channel my friend
JD you always put thought behind your videos and never BS anything about what you are making a video on. I really trust you on anything I plan to buy because of your videos are one of many CZcamsrs on here. Keep up with your great advice and videos. Thanks JD
Another great job JD. I watched their video before I watched this one and I thought they nailed it. You can make the case for either truck and have a valid viewpoint.
I've always enjoyed your videos and I've taken much of your advice into consideration when I've made purchases. The Transeagle tires on my TT are a testament to that. I love them BTW!
I appreciate the fact that you don't have an ego or bias when you do your videos and a shout out to another great channel is awesome.
Everything is a compromise. Really comes down to what’s important to you. My F-250 7.3 Godzilla is pretty close to the perfect truck for me as a homeowner and RV owner. Tows my 31 foot TT great and works great for Lowe’s runs.
Also as much as I love my 6.7 D- it is big bucks for maintenance- the 7.3 is an awesome motor that is more affordable. If I was only a weekend or a few times a year tow to a campground- i would not have the 6.7
I love their channel.. been watching them forever...
Great video J.D. You covered exactly what I considered before I settled on the F350 SRW. It fit perfectly into what I wanted. Keep up the great work. Research and understanding before purchasing is it.
I had watched their video and commented on it and they replied to my comment. I like the looks of the 450 with the 19.5 inch wheels, I like the turning radius, but what drove me to the 450 was the height of the bed the 450 is lower to the ground than the 350 and quite a bit lower than the Chevy or the Dodge and I needed that to get under my fifth wheel trailer so that the trailer would still be level and the truck level. I've had a 2008 a 2010 a 2016 and a 2020 all F450s. And less face it going to Safeway or home Depot and being able to make a 90° turn and park it in a parking spot between the lines the first try is pretty nice. Bigger brakes are nice to have 14 ply tires are nice to have until you replace them.
JD. Really appreciate this video. We are battling this decision. And for us it is boiling down to turning radius v cargo capacity. I subscribe to Paving New Paths and watch their video. It was magnificent. I really appreciate what they did and you did. The combo of your videos has me really leaning toward a 350.
Nailed it on the steering. That the #1 reason I went to an F-450, because really, other than more payload and TPMS, the F-350 DRW doesn't have an advantage for MY use case. Getting my 43' long 5th wheel in my drive with the F-350 SRW was a PITA because the truck would get into the ditch on the opposite side, and the F-450 clears is easily. The DRW F-350 would be even Further into the ditch.
Love your channel. I picked up my first F350
Loving it. F450 is still a dream. Reality is there is a difference and you state the facts.
Keep on doing what you do.
Good video JD , no since bashing anyone,Paving New Paths did a very informative video, retired out of the trucking industry , and been pulling 5th wheel campers with duallys since 1994. A lot has changed, saying it mildly! I presently have a 2020 450 King Ranch and tow a 21K Mobile Suite [scaled weight] up and down the east coast either on 95 or 81 and cross over to 95 via 77 and have to say it's a very comfortable no stress experience.I'm tow at around 64mph, and get a constant 10.2/ 10.5 mpg is about 1mpg better than my previous truck.I think the generation 3 Powerstroke , the 10 speed and the 4;30 rear is a perfect application for heavy towing, if your in a hurry and tow 70/75 your going to Pay AT The Pump! To each their own!
It is nice to know about the front end of your truck. Thanks.
As a rancher & equipment operator we need big stuff to haul big stuff around....I have a dually, f250, f150....etc. I daily drive a toyota tacoma. Big oil burners have their place hauling. I prefer to drive a trd tacoma for town trips and regular trips.
Enjoy many of your videos… love all the RV and Truck Tech as I head toward retirement & new 5’er purchase. I just found this video, which is another informative video! Your comments toward the other video which prompted this video, was gracious.
I found the other video informative, and agree clearly a lot of time was invested. Although following & reading comments it became forefront to present the F450 as misleadingly advertised, misrepresenting and F450 Buyers were essentially fooled and purchase of F350 was the best choice; Which for his needs & budget probably accurate, although not accurate for Others.
The focus of justification was on payload legal caps which is an important variable but certainly not the deciding factor for many Buyer / Owners. The greater design limitations for weight & tow of the F450 clearly exceed the F350, and that has value to many Perspective Buyers & Owners. The greater design capacity, load stability and steering provide greater confidence, and if weight is exceeded, which likely is more common than expected. Both trucks are derated, although F450 much more.
The ride may be little rougher, but upper trim line isn’t as noticeable… and a few mods help.
Great truck...and as you said it works for you. Sadly, as before with some of your recent video, some people have nothing better than to find fault or complain or "B___h" about someone else's successful you tube channel. You're a great channel, and you spend a lot of time explaining your opinions with pretty decent resources. Those people need to get a life!
Stability is the #1 reason I wanted a dually pulling a 40' 5th wheel. I get caught in high winds regularly in my area and pulled with a SRW enough to enjoy the difference.
I just replaced my 3500 dually Ram with a 2022 f450 lariat. I switch back and forth driving the 2 trucks and here are my opinions. The Ram has 110k on it and has been reliable except for needing a turbo at 100k. The main reasons I went with the 450 are the turning radius, 10 speed trans and bigger brakes. I tow boats and many of my customers trailers don't have functioning brakes. The larger brakes on the 450 make a huge difference to me and although the powerstrokes exhaust brake isn't as strong as the Cummins I find that manually downshifting I get almost as much slowing as the Cummins but I do miss the sound. It only took driving the Ford a few hundred miles for my brain to adjust to the wide track axle being out of the wear grooves in the highway. When the grooves are really bad I just move over to the second lane which is often since I live in Ca.
As for me you give the most honest opinion on trucks. And when you give out information on matching trailer to truck I listen. I have a 2012 f350 dually and pulls my 38ft fifth wheel so much better than the 2012 f350 srw ever did.
Great job as usual. In the planning no stage for our next truck (currently with an F350 SRW). I really appreciate your honesty in your opinions as well as you stating what is opinion versus what may be fact. 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks, going to check out that channel.
Thank you for always giving great advice
I choose overkill all the time
Always appreciate what you’re doing. Keep up the good work. Thank you for your help
Great video and topic as always I own 2004 tacoma, 2012 tundra, 2004 f350 drw diesel with 4.10 , mercedes ml diesel etc I tow almost every day for work 6x10 enclose cargo 5x10 dump work for play , 7x16 enclose bike trailer, 20 foot malibu wakesetter , some times a 20' livestock trailer, but there is nothing like a dully to tow nothing else comes close I use to tow a montana mountaineer 37 foot 5th wheel it towed great behind the dully before I had a wilderness 5th wheel 30 feet or so light weight but I towed with a 2002 chevy 2500 diesel regular cab and even though it was much lighter then the the montana the f350 is night and day deference . My next truck might be a f450 because as you say the turning radius is great and its what I need as my f350 with leaf springs not so good. .
I've towed Rv's for over 40+ years and even spent 4 years towing 'joint's' with a class 8 in my young years. I've followed you for~6 years and feel you do a great job explaining the trucks & tow capabilities. Yet you receive a lot of half cocked responses with people misquoting you and or trying to make absolutes where there may not be one. Yes a 1/2t can tow over 6k # but lets talk averages and reasonable average skill sets. No one ever complains they have too much truck; but Lord help you in high winds or down a steep hill with a large load pushing you and you need to stop; not having ample vehicle. There is a huge difference between towing 8k with a flatbed or a boat or a TT with high sides. There are very few absolutes and one must weigh their abilities, comfort & uses wisely. People tow RV trailers with Class 8's as well.
I think JD needs to revisit his reasons for recomending what he does for pickups and towing at least once or twice a year. I don't always 100% agree with his take on a proper tow vehicle, but I do understand why he recomends what he does.
JD, As usual awesome video. I'm glad you saw that video!! Was wondering what your thoughts were on it . Glad the pond finished. Still an f450 fan.
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Great video. I think your F450 is bad ass. When towing large heavy loads you can’t be to safe. My wife complains how “bumpy” my 2001 3/4 ton is. Couldn’t imagine what she would say about your truck. People do forget that trucks are not Cadillac’s.
Hey JD! I have a 2022 3500DRW Silverado and it’s a great truck. I looked at the F-450. Loved the truck and really like yours. I don’t daily in mine, mainly to tow our mid bunk Grand Design. I hear you on the hate of owning a bigger truck. Guys at work like to poke a little, I honestly think it’s fueled by jealousy. Anyway beautiful rig and pay no attention to the keyboard ninjas.
I agree totally. It is about the right tool for the job.
I just got an F350 duelly king ranch from my dad. The trailer I wanted was too big for my tundra and my dad had two f350s and he unfortunately got to the point that he could not use them anymore so he offered me one for free. He had a 2001 f350 and an 07 350 Duelly. He wanted me to have the newer truck So I took it. It’s got 87k miles and is bone stock and well maintained. I’ve had it for a few weeks and it’s the best truck for towing but the second best free truck I got from my dad.
The best was his 1970 Chevy CST/10 shortbed 402 big block TH400 4:10 12 bolt. I got it in 1997 when I was 16 and still have it. Great truck for towing but needs overdrive. I’m working on that. Dad passed last Saturday. He was a great man, great father, and has been my hero my whole life. Miss you pops..
Sorry for your loss. Sounds like he had great taste.
@@MrRod632 thank you 🙏 . He was a great man
Changed wheels and tires, kept payload capacity and fox shocks. Love my 19 F450
If anyones ever towed with a truck like this there’s simply no going back. I’ve hauled gooseneck trailers with ram 4500/5500 & F550 with weighing north of 17k
All with a CDL with all endorsements ect
So I completely biased on the heavier duty trucks even for rv towing either it be full time or few times a year.
JD , I also am glad that you make these videos even though I own a 2007-1/2 Ram 3500 dually 4x4 with a 6.7 Cummins, my truck has 3:73 gears and I pull my 40’ gooseneck trailer loaded with hay or my 25’ gooseneck with my John Deere 450E long track with a 20ton PTO winch and it’s 6 way blade and have never had a problem with power with my 3:73 gears and small 75hp programmer and the transmission turned up in pressure a lil it’ll bark 3&4 gears loaded. But even saying that I love the F450 because of the tighter turning radius, is it possible to order one with a higher set of gears. I remember way back in the late 1990s and early 2000s Dodge offered its duallies with as high as a 3:56 set of gearing in their diesel trucks
I tow a Trqils West four Horse trailer...with a gvwr of 16000 lbs. Hauling four horses in the mountains is much easier in my 2019 F450 than it was in my 2015 F350 dually.
Great video. I have a heavy slide-in camper that might have been better served with the 350 DRW but I went with the 450 due to turning. As for ride I had the truck lifted and Open Country ATIII tires put on which greatly helped the ride and still have the ability to carry the GVWR. IF you are willing to spend some $ you can address some of the issue he mentions.
JD, I always get the question, why do you pull with an F-450 FX4 (2020), the simple answer is safety, pull vehicle vs tow. We pull a 2018 Montana 3820FK, I believe the GVWR is 16-17k. Most of our travel is on the Eastern Shore of Virginia, Rt 13, lots of stoplights and businesses. We have had to use all the brakes on numerous occasions, people just seem to need to get in front of you to make the turn into a business. We started with a 2018 F-350 Dually, awesome tow vehicle, just not enough safety for me and my family. We plan to get a Tow Hauler, 3 axels, and believe the F-450 will handle the 3 axel push better in a bad situation. FX4, skid plates offer some additional protection from those pieces of semi truck tires that are in the road. Keep up the good work.
Excellent video. I too have a ruby red F450 (2019). Best truck out there for towing in my opinion. The 4.30 gears, the wide track front axle, beefier front frame section, thicker axle shafts and commercial tires.
I have a 47' toy hauler (Jayco Seismic), I'm well within the limits that are on the sticker.
If 14,000lbs wasn't the required limit, the F450's numbers would be much higher than the F350's. Does that matter? Well, there's a certain Ram owner out there with a severely bent fram that would say 'yes'.
Put the wide track axle on an F350 and I might be a buyer, but that's just too good of an option to give up for a truck that isn't as capable.
Also, to me, the commercial tires are like gold. Yeah, they can be a pain to get balanced, but when you do, you now have tires that give you a much higher piece of mind as they are much stronger.
as an example to your last point, we pull a micro minnie 2100bh with our traverse and we're very close to GCVWR. I would NEVER recommend that setup to anyone unless I 100% knew they could handle it and they know to not try to go up any mountain passes with it. I would recommend a full size SUV or preferably a 1/2 ton to anyone who asks.
No need to apologize so much for your content. Keep doing YOU! The comment section will stress you out brotha.
Both are great videos. I've had an F450 on order for about 9 months. Still waiting to be scheduled...I went with the 450 solely for the wide-track front axle. I prefer the wheel/tire and gearing options of the 350, but what are you going to do. As others have said, an F350 with a wide-track axle would be ideal. I'm hauling a 16.5k GVWR 5th wheel, so I don't need the full capability of either a 350DRW or a 450, but I like the extra stability. Thanks for the great videos and info! As I wait, I have to live vicariously through you guys :).
I have a 2017 3500HD CCLB Srw. I love it, but I'm going to look at a 2019 F-450 Limited next week and I cannot wait
The Dana 60 solid front is maybe when I'm most excited about for turning. Going up to a dually is more future proof for me, and I'm more open to spending money on a delete on a dually because I'll keep it for 10+ years which I'm gonna do. The interior is kind of hard to beat on the limited, too, which is big.
Also, I'm kind of weird. I have anxiety driving, so the larger the vessel, the better I feel. 450 is going to be a fun new daily for me.
I love our 450 also, but your right if the 350 dually had that wide track front end I would jump on it in a heart beat just because of the added payload.
I drive one daily in Dallas. With the front axle and cameras, it is easier to park than my 2015 short bed 250 was. The ride is not good. And, it is governed at 88 mph. The handling and styling makes up for it. Love mine. Waiting on the new '23 450.
You're channel has taught me a lot about payload and towing. THanks.
I like my chevy 2500 but every new toy hauler I am looking at the pin weight is much higher than my current one. I like the idea of the tighter turn radius of the 450 but not sure if I should take a hit on the lower payload. My truck is paid off and trying to enjoy that before I jump back into another payment.
I’d like to see you review the F350 DRW 7.3gas with 3.73 gears I’m getting 12 mpg with mine pulling a 36’ travel trailer that weighs 9,500lbs it has plenty of power I think it’s a great option for bumper pull travel trailers
JD, we all know the numbers are altered for marketing and DOT related reasons. No question, a 450 will pull better/safer, haul safer/better than a 350, or any other 3500. Commercial size tires alone make huge difference.
Do you have 450? if yes, how often do you check your tire pressure?
@@wj2791Yes, i have an older F Superduty rated for 15k, and 2012 3500 dually. Every time when im done hauling gravel, or pick up work for it, I PM it and make sure its ready for next round. Its Personal tool that mostly pays for itself. The older 96 FSuperduty absolutely is a more solid truck than the 2012 Duramax. Love both, but older chassis cab Ford is heavier built all around, brakes, everything, except rear end. Dana 80 isnt quite what the GM AAM 11.5" is but more than adequate.
A 350 is fine for all RVs. A 450 is for hotshots. I drive an 18 wheeler and it disturbs me seeing 250’s pulling hotshots.
My opinion is bottom line, if you tow a heavy and longer 5th wheel then the wide track be it a F-450 or a Ram 5500 is the way to go. Personally I tow a 40’ 5th wheel 18,000 lbs with a Ram 3500 ( didn’t have the money to move to the better option so I compromised the steering radius) and have found that turning radius is paramount in many RV parks due to the tight quarters. I drive my nephews F450 towing a 24 ton tag along and the steering is phenomenal. Really makes me want to upgrade, but it comes down to dollars, especially being retired and a full time RV’er.
We love our F450 for our Eagle Cap 1200 Truck Camper! CA👍
Based on what I've seen, the only advantage of a 450, is the better turning radius. But I digress. My personal choice would be a 2022 RAM 3500 Longhorn Dually with the high output Cummins and Aisen transmission. I'd also get the bigger fuel tank and rear air suspension. But that's me!
Titan tank. Might have something for ya.
They make a 66 gallon tank for my Crewcab long bed. Mounts in stock location, no interference with anything.
Initial fill up was painful but distance gained yes sir/ma'am.
Don’t ever buy a dodge. Please. Just my opinion…..
I worked for them for years!!!
The 4.30 axle is one of the major hold backs for me. I have a 3.31 in a HCTTP F250(1 ton) I could utilize a DRW F350. I want to upgrade my 5th wheel. I had a CCLB F350 and I miss that truck. The current is a CCSB and hate it(not in love witht he 3.31) for the $1800 for the DRW it's worth it. The 17" tires are far cheaper than the 18". I can deal with the 3.55 axle(31.5" DRW tires)turn a lot more per mile vs the current 33.2" tires
Single tire 1tons are my favorite trucks. I think they give me the best compromise between all categories!! I have a 2005 dodge and it’s the last truck I will ever buy.
Absolutely spot on.
Could you tell me what the options are on an f450 like your truck as far as gear ratios? I bought my 2016 F350 drw and it came from the factory with 430 gears which I didn't think they offered it in the F-350. It's super nice when I'm towing my fifth wheel but man do I get horrible gas mileage. I would love the f450 for the front wide track but I don't know that I'd go with it with the 430 gear ratio, simply for the fuel mileage.
My 450 liscense plate says small pp and proud of it
I love your f450. But I have no need for one. But if ever need I would go with the F650 with the Edison 10 speed Engine break. Because watching CZcams its funny when the F450 just don’t have the power or the height to conquer some of them hilly sharp turns in some campgrounds.
Great follow up JD but as a 22 450 owner that came from a 17 F350 SRW I have to disagree with you on the ride. The older 450s may have been rough but the new ones are so smooth and ours tracks straight going down the road. The difference in ride is so close empty that you cant tell, when loaded with a heavy trailer, the 450 rides much nicer and smoother! In a nutshell, there is little to no difference in ride quality anymore!
I like this video because JD stresses there are pairing combinations that may be better for YOUR application. The F450 is a fine truck but I don’t need it for my application. Upgrading? Do your homework.
The one thing I’ve learned from BTBRV and other CZcams channels is, look at your application, test drive the vehicle and make a selection based on safety and your other requirements. It will save you money and potentially, grief.
A+++. Thanks, JD.
Great video as always. Have you had the chance to drive a Ram 4500? I realize they sadly don't offer them with a pickup bed, but I would be very interested in your opinion of them. Keep up the great work, and I'm heading over to that other channel now.
Wish the f450 came with the 7.3. I would order one today
Super good looking truck
Hey JD, you have a 2019 correct? Does yours have the factory 5th wheel prep and UTTC, if so what does your in bed hookup for the electrical look like? I am a bit confused on mine as I thought with UTCC and factory prep the in bed outlet would have the 7 pin AND the 12 pin already installed.
Good video. I went from a 2012 F350 to a 2019 F450 pulling a 18k 5er. The F350 pulled great and we had a great time and it was the longest I've ever owned a vehicle. Time to upgrade and I had heard about that wide track and took a F450 for a test drive and fell in love. To me, it makes all the difference in the world and rides better than my F350. I wish it were as smooth as my wife's F150 but that is the nature of the class. It did wander about in the lane when I first got it but I don't know if it's my driving compensating for it or the tires are broken in, but I don't notice it anymore. If there was one thing I could change, I would make it a variable ratio it that even exists.
My dilemma now is should I trade for a newer one with the 10-speed transmission. Do you think it's worth it?
Leaning toward the F450 to haul a very heavy 5W due to the better turning radius but are there some nicer riding tires to replace the harsh commercial tires for the F450? Live in AZ and will be going back and forth to south FL so no off-road capability needed. Just want a smoother, more comfortable ride. Thanks
Good Evening My Good Bro Of Big Truck & Big RVs
We recently purchased a Salem Hemisphere Elite 36FL made by Forest River. What would be your recommendation for a tow vehicle? I was thinking the 450 for the turning radius but now thinking more towards the 350 for drivability. Thank you in advance.
I thought the sulastic shackles civilized the ride of the leaf springs? It seems to me that no brand of pickup is okay in stock form. Both my half ton pickup and my daily driver SUV had to be modified to meet my needs. My wife's 3/4 ton Ram needed new shocks, brakes, and tires to be acceptable. Of course the point of the Cummins over gas is the VGT turbo, since we drive big hills like Conway summit and Tioga pass.
I agree about the front axle steering cut. My dream truck is a Ford F550 4wd, or Ram 5500 4wd, modified as an overlander. Carrying a 4 wheel pop up camper bigger than the Hawk model, that we currently have. I like how the gearing of the heavier chassis trucks. Allow floatation tires to be added easily, without tearing into the axles. And after the speedometer is recalibrated. A friend of mine found that he had fuel economy competitive with the lighter trucks.
The only problem I have with the F450 is they don’t offer it in a Super Cab.
Hi JD, I saw a video you did before about the tires on a 450. Have you done anymore videos on the tires? My 450 has the stock conti's and wow! Hard tires
I keep waiting for a f150 or f250 dually! 😁😁😁. Think I’m going to be waiting a long time!
Question out there, best insurance company for my personal use on my F450??? Thank you. I really appreciate it.
I didn’t watch the whole video of paving paths as they showed the numbers at the beginning and it was late. My take on the 450 vs 350 from what your explained on all your videos is the 450 is better for towing at max weight and if you want a better turning radius
I ended up ordering a F350 because I was worried about tire cost and unloaded ride quality.. I sorta regretted it, but I think once I get some new wheels and tires that look better ill like it.
I am on the fence my self. At the moment, i have F350 Dually and is waiting for the ordering to reopen. It is not an easy decision. I do not pull and don't really need dually as well. I just like dually. It is toss up between 2023 F350 or F450 Limited.
@@wj2791 Im likely going to put some Fuel Triton wheels on my 350 Limited in 20" and roll with it. Ive been doing research on that all night.
@@wj2791 also, if towing isn’t a priority, f350 is going to ride much smoother because you can air it down to about 45-50psi safely.