Had a 560 on demo for 3 weeks, O/D took a lot of getting use too as you think it's always struggling but proformas over my next gen 500 was night and day. 560 was awesome and a mile to the gallon better and that's in Devon and Cornwall most of the time. Best truck I've ever driven.
I’m currently waiting for my new R650 to arrive was put on a boat from Sweden last week heading to New Zealand will take around 6 weeks then we will put it to work pulling a 6 axel btrain Curtian sider on a 54t permit. Currently running a 2017 r620 with 1.1 million km on it. Love your videos
What are the weight limits in New Zealand? Is a b train like a rigid and tandem in Europe or is it double articulated? What is the weight per axle laws in New Zealand? In the UK it’s 44t on 6 axles.
The engine is available on navistar units like the LT models here in the USA. Our shop is already seeing them new. My company is a leasing company so we get to see all the new stuff introduced into the market.
Awesome roadtest. Very impressed with the demo of the over drive box. I can see other manufacturers following the same idea. Must be very good on fuel. 👍👍👍
It is. When cruising @80km/h on level surface the consumption is just over 10l/100km (without load on a 6x2 rigid) and the revs are below 1000rpm. On my 420P the consumption is over 3l/100 less than on the older P410's and P450's. 👀
I recently priced one of these and the issue i came up against was the price, the 560 super came in practically the same price as a 590V8, now obviously the fuel return is going to be better on the 560 but on the flip side the V8 will have better resale, we ended up going for a 660 as they seem to be the most economical V8 on offer. Personally i think your better just going for a normal 6 cyl for example a 500S or go for a bigger V8, for the price i can't see the value in it over a standard 6cyl or a V8.
Hi,Stavros.Nice video!You're exactly right about the airbags in the front,because they give that floating fill like a boat😁In the States not many trucks come with them on a steering axle.About the OD noise I think it's just the very low rpm and you're almost at the point lugging the engine wich is not very good in a long term.
Your idle is around 500 or 550 rpm most of the time, so 950 is alright, and the OD gear is meant for high speeds on flat highways, so its not going to damage anything, because its not really labouring
The new Scania's Opticruise, both G25CM and G33CM have similar ratios with the previous Opticruise (GRSO905) it's just the naming is the different. 12th gear in GRSO905 now become OD gear. The LH gear/L2 gear in GRSO905 now become 1st gear.
Hi, the gear steps are similar but stretched (24% instead of 28% comparing GRSO905 to G25/33). But the lowest ratio for the GRSO905 is 13.3 and 20.8 for G25/33. That affects the starting torque quite much. So you can use a faster rear axle ratio with G25/33 and aim for that ratio to be optimal at the 12th geat at cruising. The OD is then used only when low load is used cruising at the low RPM as shown. Doing the same with the GRSO905 will potentially make the starting torque too low depending on the weight you pull.
Tad old of a video, but I'm pretty sure the humming noise is either due to minor drone or the increased engine load from running at lower revs. Low revs are good though if it stays at peak torque. Engines are most efficient at peak torque and medium-high engine load, so it should turn more of the fuel into power and not heat when cruising at a constant speed. It shouldn't change engine longevity, if anything it would increase it, since you still have sufficient oil pressure to form a proper film on the journals so it's just a nice to have for lower consumption. Given the V8's have a similar torque curve now I'd expect them to start offering similar, if not the same gearing in them too. No real point in not offering that. Only a matter of time until those lose the individual heads in favour of a DOHC design like these 13L engines, but that'd only make those V8's better, probably improving the torque figure more making the 530 end of the range make more sense. I doubt they'll get rid of them entirely though as it's such a big part of their brand image and they'll likely keep them until they're all forced to be electric via regulations.
The 16 liter V8 rated at 530hp will runs with way way less internal stress than 13 liter. Less hp per liter and per cylinder. So the V8 has more longevity, if a company wants to explore a full truck life span
Ours V-8 SCANIA TURBO DIESEL drives nice and is used on transcontinental long distance runs of several weeks. Better than 6 cilinder capacity engines ! May the best win ! For sure it,s the V-8 ! Keep driving savely. Greetings from Holland / the Netherlands.😊❤
Hi Stavros matey it's mark from Wirral Merseyside great CZcams video by the way that new Scania Ng 580s super nice looking truck and colour is ok really, the engine's straight six would be great for every day loads but for anything heavier than every day loads i think that you would be better with the V8 for the extra torque from the engine and gearbox really👍 thanks for the CZcams video Stavros matey it's very much appreciated 👍👍 thanks from mark from the Wirral Merseyside 👍👍
Hello mate . Thank you, one more time, for your video .Such a shame you didn't test it with a full load , may be you could told us if you REALLY feel the difference with your v8 .I heard that fuel results are really very good with that engine ....but if you give the choice between this one and the 530 v8 I ' ll choose the v8 ! Why ? just turn the key and you got the answer 😅😅😅😅 Greatings from Brittany.
ye the lugging sound but it's not shaking, is it. u know it's a super hit top torque@900 rpms. wat u do, just gonna have to get alone with these sexy baes. great videos stavros.
Could you do a vlog on a day in the life of a owner driver what's needed to start your own business the expenses the rewards and ways of finding work could be interesting to some people As far as the Scania goes the DAF XG+ has a better cab would be a smarter choice
It looks good needs a deeper matress and to weigh 6000kg unladen,low roof full of fuel witth tipping gear and driver perhaps its achieveable with small midlift axle and a bit of carbon fibre for side skirts and air deflectors instead of heavy fibregkass also needs airbags in cab!! drivers steering wheel and drivers door, pasenger doo,r and in dash and stronger toughened glass all around may buy one in future if these changes are made.
Last 3 years or maybe 4 or 5 years i commented on your video that i hope there will be scania here in the Philippines and now like wow there it was the BJ mercantile bring it here. they operated here as far as i remember 3 years now, they distributed the G series and P series also the EUDM Scania i think and also the Scania buses we have now here the scania touring and Scania Marcopolo 1025. Like wow what i manifested hehe 😅
Yay stavros. Good to see you've finally found a back bone, and are starting to say you don't like certain things, on trucks now! Well done man! When you going to do a review of Peter falvey's volvo FH12, "THE BIG COOL" a real man of the woods!
Choosing a V8 over a i6 Scania is like choosing a new Peterbilt 389 over a 579. Yes the "V8" Scania and the "389" Peterbilt use more fuel but there just way more badass and cooler and personally is worth the little extra you'll pay in fuel.
Thanks for this video Stavros. I'm getting one of these in September on a tag lift rated at 65tons. What did you think to the new retarder system on the Super?
glad how you always show us different angles man. I am also a content creator from zambia and iam always inspired by your videos. Send me some of your go pro cameras that you dont use if you have please.
Hello Steve's very much enjoy your truck nolage on the different trucks you are so nollage able I like going to truck shows to see the scania v8 truck would be possible if you could send me a photo of you roll on Monday when I go to the servies near nristool to take photos of the trucks there thank you for having the time to read this letter all keep on trucking
I don't want to see this tractor in Scandinavia. I had enough of these continent styled trucks up here. The fifth wheel should not be located in front of the driving axle.
with all that stuff (sorry equipment) how does the any of the air get to the radiator and all those side skirts to protect a (silly/stupid) cyclist that insists on going down the inside (right hand drive of course) of the truck into the blind spot of the driver
GRSO905 gearbox has overdrive and has done for at least 18 years. You just never noticed it. G = gearbox R = Range S = Synchromesh O = Overdrive (NOT Zero or opticruise as some believe) 905 gearbox type R = Retarder If added
You are correct to say or something. The or something also means engine volume. Also Displacement is the total volume of all the cylinders in an engine. The only error you made is the spelling of litre.
i am an assembler of this engine and its so cool to see it out on the road like this, love the video!
Had a 560 on demo for 3 weeks, O/D took a lot of getting use too as you think it's always struggling but proformas over my next gen 500 was night and day. 560 was awesome and a mile to the gallon better and that's in Devon and Cornwall most of the time. Best truck I've ever driven.
I’m currently waiting for my new R650 to arrive was put on a boat from Sweden last week heading to New Zealand will take around 6 weeks then we will put it to work pulling a 6 axel btrain Curtian sider on a 54t permit.
Currently running a 2017 r620 with 1.1 million km on it.
Love your videos
What are the weight limits in New Zealand? Is a b train like a rigid and tandem in Europe or is it double articulated? What is the weight per axle laws in New Zealand? In the UK it’s 44t on 6 axles.
The engine brake in these are the best thing ever fitted in a modern truck. And the air ride you are correct. They do not feel good on a winding road.
They need to bring these to the US. I'd be stoked
The engine is available on navistar units like the LT models here in the USA. Our shop is already seeing them new. My company is a leasing company so we get to see all the new stuff introduced into the market.
Another interesting video Stavros. I can't understand why Scania make so many different engine sizes. The colour of that 560s is quite nice.
I guess different configurations for different applications! But basically the same engine block!
Awesome roadtest. Very impressed with the demo of the over drive box.
I can see other manufacturers following the same idea. Must be very good on fuel. 👍👍👍
It is. When cruising @80km/h on level surface the consumption is just over 10l/100km (without load on a 6x2 rigid) and the revs are below 1000rpm. On my 420P the consumption is over 3l/100 less than on the older P410's and P450's. 👀
Absolutely Beautiful! These new 13 litre engines are painted orange which is unique touch by scania!
I love the sound of 6 cylinder trucks, and straight 6 cars.
I recently priced one of these and the issue i came up against was the price, the 560 super came in practically the same price as a 590V8, now obviously the fuel return is going to be better on the 560 but on the flip side the V8 will have better resale, we ended up going for a 660 as they seem to be the most economical V8 on offer. Personally i think your better just going for a normal 6 cyl for example a 500S or go for a bigger V8, for the price i can't see the value in it over a standard 6cyl or a V8.
Hi,Stavros.Nice video!You're exactly right about the airbags in the front,because they give that floating fill like a boat😁In the States not many trucks come with them on a steering axle.About the OD noise I think it's just the very low rpm and you're almost at the point lugging the engine wich is not very good in a long term.
Depending how engine is built. I drive Volvo fh16 830hp and they rev up to 1180. Aroun 1000 normal drive just below 700 is low rev.
@@thomtrucker1925 700rpm,that pretty much idle,so seeing is believing 😁
Your idle is around 500 or 550 rpm most of the time, so 950 is alright, and the OD gear is meant for high speeds on flat highways, so its not going to damage anything, because its not really labouring
@@thomtrucker1925 Engine with such a low rev torque set,will never last a long time!😁My opinion
The new Scania's Opticruise, both G25CM and G33CM have similar ratios with the previous Opticruise (GRSO905) it's just the naming is the different. 12th gear in GRSO905 now become OD gear. The LH gear/L2 gear in GRSO905 now become 1st gear.
Hi, the gear steps are similar but stretched (24% instead of 28% comparing GRSO905 to G25/33). But the lowest ratio for the GRSO905 is 13.3 and 20.8 for G25/33. That affects the starting torque quite much. So you can use a faster rear axle ratio with G25/33 and aim for that ratio to be optimal at the 12th geat at cruising. The OD is then used only when low load is used cruising at the low RPM as shown.
Doing the same with the GRSO905 will potentially make the starting torque too low depending on the weight you pull.
I love ur video stavros excellent attention to detail keep it up
Good morning Stavros from Greece!!
And it's amusing that Stavros969 is a Paddy! 👍💯🇬🇧😂😉
Do you need the 530 V8? No. Do you want it? Yes! The new Super 13 engines hit the sweet spot for 85% of the companies.
Tad old of a video, but I'm pretty sure the humming noise is either due to minor drone or the increased engine load from running at lower revs. Low revs are good though if it stays at peak torque. Engines are most efficient at peak torque and medium-high engine load, so it should turn more of the fuel into power and not heat when cruising at a constant speed. It shouldn't change engine longevity, if anything it would increase it, since you still have sufficient oil pressure to form a proper film on the journals so it's just a nice to have for lower consumption. Given the V8's have a similar torque curve now I'd expect them to start offering similar, if not the same gearing in them too. No real point in not offering that. Only a matter of time until those lose the individual heads in favour of a DOHC design like these 13L engines, but that'd only make those V8's better, probably improving the torque figure more making the 530 end of the range make more sense. I doubt they'll get rid of them entirely though as it's such a big part of their brand image and they'll likely keep them until they're all forced to be electric via regulations.
Great to see you back Bud
U real know the Scania , the way u name gearboxes
The 16 liter V8 rated at 530hp will runs with way way less internal stress than 13 liter. Less hp per liter and per cylinder. So the V8 has more longevity, if a company wants to explore a full truck life span
Great video again and a very nice truck keep up the good work 👏
Ours V-8 SCANIA TURBO DIESEL drives nice and is used on transcontinental long distance runs of several weeks. Better than 6 cilinder capacity engines ! May the best win ! For sure it,s the V-8 ! Keep driving savely. Greetings from Holland / the Netherlands.😊❤
Hey Stavros, I think I saw you on Monday driving the Rory lynch Scania S580 on the N7 passing Naas!
Hi Stavros matey it's mark from Wirral Merseyside great CZcams video by the way that new Scania Ng 580s super nice looking truck and colour is ok really, the engine's straight six would be great for every day loads but for anything heavier than every day loads i think that you would be better with the V8 for the extra torque from the engine and gearbox really👍 thanks for the CZcams video Stavros matey it's very much appreciated 👍👍 thanks from mark from the Wirral Merseyside 👍👍
The point is that the v8 doesn’t have more torque but more kW. And kW is not important when hauling. Torque is.
Hello mate .
Thank you, one more time, for your video .Such a shame you didn't test it with a full load , may be you could told us if you REALLY feel the difference with your v8 .I heard that fuel results are really very good with that engine ....but if you give the choice between this one and the 530 v8 I ' ll choose the v8 ! Why ? just turn the key and you got the answer 😅😅😅😅
Greatings from Brittany.
That`s a superb truck
ye the lugging sound but it's not shaking, is it. u know it's a super hit top torque@900 rpms. wat u do, just gonna have to get alone with these sexy baes. great videos stavros.
Could you do a vlog on a day in the life of a owner driver what's needed to start your own business the expenses the rewards and ways of finding work could be interesting to some people
As far as the Scania goes the DAF XG+ has a better cab would be a smarter choice
It looks good needs a deeper matress and to weigh 6000kg unladen,low roof full of fuel witth tipping gear and driver perhaps its achieveable with small midlift axle and a bit of carbon fibre for side skirts and air deflectors instead of heavy fibregkass also needs airbags in cab!! drivers steering wheel and drivers door, pasenger doo,r and in dash and stronger toughened glass all around may buy one in future if these changes are made.
Still like the sound of Scania's inline 6 engines. 😁
Hi Stavros! thanks for the review. I be waiting for your opportunity to review the EV truck from volvo.
Well the batteries are also taking up lots of diesel space, they could have changed the option to move them to the rear for more capacity
Fantastic video👌👌👌
Can you do a bin lorry or more fire engines
Nice 👍
why not just get it with the batteries on the back insted of the side, u will get more space for the fuel tank
Not permitted in some regions
Parabéns felicidades a mil guerreiro bazuka Foz do Iguaçu PR Brasil 🇧🇷🇧🇷
Get that renault done it the RLT livery!
I don't remember, but I think G25 can handle max 2500Nm and G33 - 3300Nm , that is the reason, why they are not for top power V8s 👍
Hi Sir thank you u r teaching me alot
Enjoyed the video chap..
Good afternoon starvo. Greetings from South Africa
nice truck stavros
Maybe do a video on a vintage vespa pls?
Good morning Stavros
I'm a scaina lover ❤❤
Gotta say yer footage is fantastic.
Any idea if they supply those night locks as an aftermarket part? Mine doesn’t have them but they look very handy.
Hi.. I'm a fan from Philippines.. I want to be a truck driver in your country..
Look like truck toys 🥰😍
Cad you do a vid on the Actros 1842 you have
Last 3 years or maybe 4 or 5 years i commented on your video that i hope there will be scania here in the Philippines and now like wow there it was the BJ mercantile bring it here. they operated here as far as i remember 3 years now, they distributed the G series and P series also the EUDM Scania i think and also the Scania buses we have now here the scania touring and Scania Marcopolo 1025. Like wow what i manifested hehe 😅
Good job again
Yay stavros. Good to see you've finally found a back bone, and are starting to say you don't like certain things, on trucks now! Well done man!
When you going to do a review of Peter falvey's volvo FH12, "THE BIG COOL"
a real man of the woods!
You have to check out bruder trucks. How similar they are to the real thing
Nice one Stavros
The weight difference between the 6 cylinder and the V8 is 300kg so I'm told, which is more food for thought, especially with the larger cab.
will 300kg make a difference on a truck hauling 16-20t?
used to be atleast 1.5t of difference
@@angrysocialjusticewarriorand if you're handling only 16 to 20 tonnes why the hell do you need greater than 500hp?
Is there no dipstick stavros?
Morning Stavro great Sunday morning watching. 560 what would the weekly average mpg be in the real world do you think.
What’s more cost effective to run.
Does anyone know if you will still keep the power and economy modes IF you decide to get a manual gearbox?
Hi from Greece
Choosing a V8 over a i6 Scania is like choosing a new Peterbilt 389 over a 579. Yes the "V8" Scania and the "389" Peterbilt use more fuel but there just way more badass and cooler and personally is worth the little extra you'll pay in fuel.
i, love. that. Truck
the OD would be perfect here in Aus on 100Kmph
Hi Stavros. Are you going to the Waterford truck show next weekend
would be nice to here this stright piped
Σταύρο πολυ κατατοπιστικό το βίντεο . Συνεχισε έτσι φιλε
the tail lights are the old ones.. 😏
by the way.. Scania's without air suspension on the steer axle are simply uncomfortable 🫣
Yup, and also the headlight switch on the door is still a switch instead of the buttons the new ones have. 👀
true.. 👊
Thanks for this video Stavros. I'm getting one of these in September on a tag lift rated at 65tons. What did you think to the new retarder system on the Super?
glad how you always show us different angles man. I am also a content creator from zambia and iam always inspired by your videos. Send me some of your go pro cameras that you dont use if you have please.
Hello Steve's very much enjoy your truck nolage on the different trucks you are so nollage able I like going to truck shows to see the scania v8 truck would be possible if you could send me a photo of you roll on Monday when I go to the servies near nristool to take photos of the trucks there thank you for having the time to read this letter all keep on trucking
Hello Stavros
Good morning 👋
Good super tho
Scania is actually owned by the Volkswagen group but. Thay are still made in Sweden
This dohc diesel turbo engine.. wow
I would love to get a truck licence
nice truck 😍 what camera do you shot this with?
Hello
One question is that better than 580s v8 🤔🤔🤔
Tell us the price pls❤
I wish I can get one Scania please help me 🙏
Scania 620 far superior truck
Που να κανει περα αυτο Σταυρε μονο για κατήφορο ειναι!
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Whats the point of OD mode if it only applies at 90kph. That exceeds speed limits in most of the Europe?
You don't need to drive at 90 kph in order to OD to engage. Even at 80 kph the gearbox would engange OD if the condition allows.
Ok
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Thats a MAN engin in that
Doesn't surprise me!
MAN D26 have 12.4 litre engine, Scania DC13 have 13 litre engine. What are you talking about?
False, thats a Scania devolpment MAN will use thats engines too in few years.
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I don't want to see this tractor in Scandinavia. I had enough of these continent styled trucks up here. The fifth wheel should not be located in front of the driving axle.
with all that stuff (sorry equipment) how does the any of the air get to the radiator and all those side skirts to protect a (silly/stupid) cyclist that insists on going down the inside (right hand drive of course) of the truck into the blind spot of the driver
GRSO905 gearbox has overdrive and has done for at least 18 years. You just never noticed it.
G = gearbox
R = Range
S = Synchromesh
O = Overdrive (NOT Zero or opticruise as some believe)
905 gearbox type
R = Retarder If added
13 liters diesel engine ok, but 13 liters of what ? engine oil or something ?
You are correct to say or something. The or something also means engine volume. Also Displacement is the total volume of all the cylinders in an engine. The only error you made is the spelling of litre.
@@MrJakeMallard and what is the correct spelling?
13 liters is the displacement of the engine. If it's not obvious for you, you should go back to kindergarden...
@@CEA1 'Litre'..
@@garethifan1034 litre & liter both works
Good morning Stavros from Greece !
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