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I'm a woman and the thing of "men opening doors" makes no sense to me.
Who arrives the door first, opens the door
I agree. And I would also say - guys, more likely, try to make it to the door first in order to open it for their female partner. That's the case for me atleast.
its just polite to open a door for a woman but if you say *I dont open my own doors* it’s annoying
It's never been a problem of opening a door for a woman, but don't expect it. I'm not opening it for you because you're a woman it's because you're a person.
Well thank you for your generosity and being an actual human being.
@@jayhova shaddup
You get there first,
*_you open the door_*
Simple
Ha! Beta
Agreed
If a man is a gentleman he will get the door for you. Instead of letting the woman open and hold the door
@@calebwildes1524 Nah. if a man is fair, he will open the door for the people behind him or let people hold the door for him, regardless of gender.
I wanna see the gen z doing this cause this generation would takes this conversation to a whole other type of level
Joe is gen z
I got my cooties shot so I’m down
@Yashvardhan SINGH lopen minded couldn't be further from woke . Lol
Yassss
@@glitchedsound206" lopen" im sorry 😆 🤣
as an Australian, I open the door for whoever is holding the beer
Same mate
Underrated comment
Ahhh A simple man 👊🏼
this is so unfunny its like a negative joke
@@senluz9840 I found this pretty funny so no idea what you're on mate
90% of comments: *DOORS ARE DOORS*
😂
haha :) lol
That's a fact tho.
HAHAHHAHAHAH, yes
Ah yes the floor is made of floor
Can u make single mother meet with single father? I think it would be interesting to hear them share their stories.
Yesssssssssssssssss
They’d probably agree on everything
@@willsherman8535 Nah I feel as if single moms would kinda dis credit the men
This is a very underrated comment.
Edit: Spelling mistake.
My dad raised me as a single father for almost 16 years. As a female, there are hard times where we have communication problems, but he raised us very good
I feel like they could have picked WAYYY better people to discuss these gender issues with
definitely, when they said "my gender has no disadvantages" and the men only said "we can't show emotion" I was like "what about all of the extremely high risks of dying we have and how they are much higher then women's chance of dying from it" and then the women said "no one takes me seriously" yes but women are also oppressed to an extreme amount in some countries. Neither side provided good points
random man facts If I was going to be in one of these videos I’m researching tf out of the topic beforehand 😂
Facts
@@nadirwoodson9321 i was thinking mostly of sexual choice advantage that women have
@@nadirwoodson9321 My mind automatically went to legal situations. Women win legal cases way more and get less jail time for the same crimes
All of the names were so unique and then...
"Hi everyone my name's _joe_ "
My name joe
JOE MAMMA
G I JOE
Joe nutts
Joe mama
Can we have extroverts and introverts meet and just listen to the extroverts talking?
YESSS
I ain't gonna like it if the extroverts go "Hurr durr you're too quiet speak up" and the introverts go "Hurr durr extroverts are noisy and annoying"
Damn, give some love to extroverts, too :(
@@zaryellllyyy True true, extroverts are not all the same. There are many who are very caring, intelligent and understanding. Just as us introverts can be. And.. Just as similarly, yeah, introverts can of course be as big assholes.
Why do people act like introverts are so special? They make up more of the population than extroverts as well... not trying to be rude though
@@Lisaakk I'm guessing because they've felt like outcasts most of their lives, not even knowing they were introverts. So when they learned about introverts and extroverts, it kind of explains why they are the way they've always been? Briefly said. At least I think this was the case for me.
As a woman, I really don’t understand the holding open doors thing… like it’s a door? If you get to a door first, open it and hold it open! It’s not an act of chivalry, it’s an act of common curtesy for anyone and everyone.
Women getting mad at men opening doors for them is a consequence of feminism and the western sexual revolution.
yes i agree with every other point other feminists make but i dont get the door thing
Celesté S Same! I will always be 100% a feminist, but that isn’t feminism… it’s entitlement 😂
Julia marie Attard Independence from what? Men? That’s impossible to achieve. Feminism defined by most contemporary feminists today is the equality of rights for men and women. Ok, equality of rights to what extent? Can a man do everything women can do, and can a man do everything a woman could do? No. The problem with feminism today is that it’s teaching women to become more like men and for men to become more like women. Your whole ideology is based on the fallacy that men and women are equal in an absolute context, therefore their rights should reflect that.
Men and women are obviously inherently different, so why give them equal absolute rights? Give men and women EQUITABLE rights. Justice can not always be served under equal rights, but only under equitable rights.
Well I'm a guy and I'm a nice person. So of course I'm going to open the door for you.
Why isn’t anyone talking about how the woman in the wrestling team basically implied she got sexually assaulted at knife point? My heart goes out to her. Everyone’s talking about opening doors when there are much bigger issues that women face that need to be addressed.
You know men are more abused and killed than women? Right sis? 🤔
@@geraltofrivia7456 that maybe true but why do you feel the need to bring that up when i’m specifically discussing a women’s issue? I notice that anytime women’s issues are being discussed, someone always feels the need to bring up men’s issue. While men’s issues are equally as important, they shouldn’t be discussed to invalidate or take away from women’s issues being discussed. They can be discussed separately
@@musicgirl2000 I think they’re just saying it isn’t just women’s problem it can be anyone’s problem. I don’t see a need for them to be discussed differently.
@@musicgirl2000 but the problem is that mens issues are not being discussed at all, especially not by women, while feminism forces men to just agree with Every outrages statement that feminists make about womens issues
@@musicgirl2000 It's because men have this issue too. When you say we need to take about this "women issue" it invalidates men who have been assaulted. Alot of people can't accept that men face issues with violence which is why it needs to be said.
“Generalization is always problematic”
Mans generalized generalization
he should have said "generalization CAN be problematic"
Often problematic. Sometimes could be perfectly correct.
always problematic if theyre a rule you go by, while not allowing for exceptions. otherwise, generalizations are a human thing, but its also human to step outside of our instincts
"If I'm with a man, I don't open my own door."
are you kidding me?
yeah, i’m surprised none of them were like “no, people open up the door for people. It’s called being polite assholes, Jesus.” Lol
I always feel really awkward cuz idk what to do. Sometimes I open it, but if I'm standing right next to them, I hesitate lol. a lot of times I've opened the door myself, but I'm super inconsistent cuz I have no idea what to do lmfao
What's wrong with that
innit what a diva
i think people should open doors for people
O K It's pretentious and a sexist expectation. She also comes off as high maintenance. She needs to grow tf up and realise she should be polite and open doors for anyone. This isn't 1940.
I’m a female and I’ve held open doors for guys and vice versa , who ever is at the door first should open it 🤷🏾♀️
Honey Minnie my exact sentiment
I completely agree.
Funny story: I open the door for people a lot. In one instance where I opened a door for a man, he flat out refused to walk through it. He held up everyone walking behind us because, for some reason, he just would not walk through the door that I held open for him. He just looked annoyed and tried to force me to go first, as if my holding the door open for him was some kind of inconvenience...
Jade Marie I’m sorry, is there another gender you want to inform me that I am? There’s only men and women. Men are males, women are females. There’s no difference between female and woman unless you’re talking about age, and I had to grow up fast so I’ve been a woman for a minute now.
Amen! My thoughts for that statement was yes...and women should hold doors for men. Who ever is there to open the door should open it for the other person.
Richard Adams exactly, that’s just common courtesy.
"In this place do you feel understood?" Such a beautiful question.
You can't say you want equality and then expect men to open doors, pay for dates and ask you out solely based on the fact that they're men. Equality is equality.
this comment, yes
You can if that is what youre ATTRACTED to in my opinion . You can choose your partner based on what you find attractive, and that can certainly be a factor. However expecting it from all men etc is obviously not equality.
Equality is more about how you should be treated in society as humans instead of your sex. So you get the same advantages. You get the same opportunities, and you can choose the type of roll you want instead of being forced into it.
This plays into choosing your roll, and what you find attractive. You are not saying all men have to be X or they are bad. You are saying instead for me personally I require X out of a relationship, and am willing to seek out the people who enjoy that. They will probably also bring other more traditional rolls into their own relationship, but not believe that that is a structure that others are obligated to maintain.
Best comment ever
Women want chivalry. Not all, but the vast majority. It’s evolutionary.
I personally wouldn't have sat down at the door question.
I think holding doors isn't a "men do that for women" thing. Holding doors should be a social thing. I hold the door for everyone. Old, Young, Men, Women. I don't care about those things when holding a door, because I hold the door because I consider it as an act of kindness.
Same:)
I would've sat down to say "and women should open doors for men"
Finders Keepers me too 👏
Yea i was immediately like "what? Ofcourse not!!" And i was even more shocked when all of them sit😔
IMaxwellI Was has
“i won’t touch the door if a man is with me” i think that’s a bit overboard...as a women i open my own doors unless someone does that for me. it doesn’t matter if they are male or female, you should be polite and respectful. i won’t sit and wait for a man to open a door for me but it would be chivalry if they would. i think it shouldn’t be a crazy thing if women open doors for men. that’s what equality is.
Whitney Houston i feel you, but my best friend is the same way. She was essentially taught to never open a door for herself and out of gut reaction others will just open doors for her. She doesn’t do it to be rude, she was just brought up around a different culture where they did that for the women all the time
I agree completely.
but thats her
Ikr
I’m a dude and I just open the door to whoever is walking by
As a male, I feel afraid that a woman will accuse me of being aggressive, rather sexually or physically, to her and everyone chooses to believe her without hearing me out since I’m a 6 foot 4 inch biracial guy.
Ikr when a woman accuses a man they take action quick but when it's the opposite they won't believe it. I'm sorry you go through that.
That rough buddy
Take this 🥚
@@tima8429 In that situation when a women accuses a men for doing something. it’s really hard to tell who’s telling the truth or not. So we as humans just have to pick a side without knowing if what the women is saying is a 100% true. Which can suck really bad, but that’s just the way life works.
@@estherx5859 What are you talking about? That does not make sense at all. You shouldn't just go around and pick the women's side, just "because". That is so sexist. Proof and evidence should always be shown, and at no time, should you just pick a side, just because she's a woman. This is the reason why a lot of men fear false accusations, because of people who just take sides randomly because they feel they're telling the "truth". This is for example what has happened to Johnny Depp, unfortunately.
Woman: "If I'm with a male, I don't open doors. I'll just stand there."
People: But you don't like the traditional masculine/feminine rolls? lol
Roles
They dont care about gender roles when it helps them but when gender roles is a negative that's when they care
I would be like: "are you going or not because I want to get out of here"
@@dansheshe8039 No truer words
@@englishmuffin7 what a garbage comment
This is why Automated Doors were invented.
I don't know why but I find this to be so funny ❤️
😂💀
Damn 🤯😂😂😂
😂
Man: Oh lemme hold the door for you.
Woman: Oh no let me!
Robot: YOU FOOLISH MORTALS, I AM THE ONLY DOOR HOLDER
@@Charlotte-gx4ll LMAO, SAME THOUGH. Still waiting for the robot invasion...
*85% of comments* "it's just a door"
Agustín Baletti 100%
i havent seen the vid yet but it is only doors
Yea. And people are thinking way to hard. The internet is the only place you will see complaints on opening a door. I thought everyone open doors for people. I mean if your already at the door, you open it. lol
Right that’s not the biggest issue in this video why everyone debating so hard on who opens a door
Exactly. Why is everyone so fixated on the least significant thing here.
Something simple:
U arrive first, you open the door
U see someone, you respect them
U meet someone, wait to trust them
And lastly
YOU TREAT EVERYONE EQUALLY NO MATTER THE GENDER
IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE
this should have more likes
Underrated comment
“There are disadvantages to my gender”
Me a woman: when camping it’s hard to pee in the woods..
Why is that my first thought lmao
well either way both genders can piss in a cup and call it lemonade
@Amara Ezeoke I still don't see a down side
Water gun on a budget
lol
@@nadirwoodson9321 warm tea
Girl, you expect workplace equality but can't open a damn door.
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 its true tho
This is an even even better comment than I was about to make! What a joke!
My opinion on this is that guys opening doors for women is a harmless cultural norm whereas the wage gap is more detrimental to women.
Aime Bita care to explain about the wage gap?
I understand that that was wrong, but those two comparisons don’t add up.
"Generalization is always a problem."
I don't disagree, but the irony of that statement is too amazing to not point out.
@King White Knight I'm sorry what?
Thank you!
paradox! :)
This comment really deserves more likes lmao
I don’t get it
At the "disadvantage of having my gender" every one should've stand up
Theirs advantages and disadvantages everywhere for every thing
I'm a white men and gosh there are so many disatvantages in my life I don't know where to start, but if I'm listening to leftists, minorities and feminists I'm perfectly fine and privileged.
except for one thing that one thing is minecarft
I'm shocked the men didn't bring up the unfair divorce laws
Same here or even mention seen as a threat for literally being a man
@@roisincrowe1489 okay what's the misconception then
@@roisincrowe1489 there's no misconception
@@roisincrowe1489 They get away with huge alimonies
@@roisincrowe1489 lol i was talking about alimony and at points child support
Jubilee, you guys should do a middle ground for introverts and extroverts!
Yesss please!!!!!!!
Exactly
xxhalogamer22xx
I would and I’m an introvert. It’d be fun to have a friendly argument with an extrovert.
Half the chairs would be empty.
What are those?
Whoever gets to the door first opens it for whoever is behind them...
not true, what if the person first to the door is holding the groceries....case to case basis friend :D
@@tyroneloki5131 Then if a man is holding the groceries, the woman (in a straigth couple) should open the door for him. And a man (in a gay couple) should do the same. And he should do it by himself if he's alone. I think that cover some cases.
@@rabiscott8178 other cases may be, that an elderly person is at the door fist, or disabled.
@@tyroneloki5131 Completly true and the gender of that person is not a thing to take in consideration, and it should be common sense (if you recieved the education needed to be part of a society) that people who needs help should recieved it. A pregnant woman should have a sit in a bus as much as a man that recieved an operation for his legs. (as much as there is any sit taken by people that doesn't need it)
@Candyce Miller you're not holding a door open to get a thank you. I mean yes saying thank you is polite but if they dont, Them not saying thank you says more about them and you holding the door says more about you. YOU should just want to be a nice polite person regardless of how anyone else acts. What they say/do shouldn't be a contributing factor for what you do. I don't feel like I NEED someone to hold the door for me, but I do feel the NEED to be a polite person and hold the door open for ppl. If everyone was like that, we'd be Canadian lol
can we just admit that there’s more difference emotionally from person to person then gender to gender.
Agreed
If that is true, why do XYwomen act so feminine?
Brett : *hates men*
Derrick : Our battle will be legendary
Noice
Now i choose pokemon! Derrick-mon!
@@dr.peanutsheesh6176 I CHOOSE POKEMON BRETT
I’m a woman all for equality and the girl with the wavy loose curls who said “I don’t open my own doors when I’m with a man” made me want to SCREAM, like girl u ain’t a princess, open ur own freaking door
Exactly. Even princesses open their own doors
Exactly you aren’t allergic to doors.
Exactly
What's wrong with a man showing chivalry...
lolah minai because some girls don’t appreciate and take it as microagression
Here in the UK, the one who gets to the door first opens it, passes through, and keeps their hand on it until the person behind gets hold of it. And that's beautifully respectful.
that's what usually happens here too, or if you're with someone they might hold the door for you.
Sana Atta That’s what we do here too they just petty in the vid lol
Most young women don't tho
H MAN Yes they do.I have literally never seen a women wait for a random man to open the door for her.😂
Same in the. U.S. but you can't do it with out being called sexist or pedo
I didn't even know opening doors was an act of chivalry in USA. The person closest to the door holds it open for everyone.
yeah lol
You just won 10 million dollars
It's not really a thing anymore most ppl just hold the door open if they're the fist there that chick is trippin
I have been paralyzed for 20 years and this video gave me the strength to stand up and jump out of my window
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yo!!!😂
omg nice!! xD
The door answers kinda shocked me cuz while I do hold the door open for women, I don't see it as a gender role. It's just being a nice to people (both men and women). I don't see it as "I'm a guy so I HAVE to do this".
Edit: Thanks for the Likes 😁
ADEX as a women, I agree with you. Men don’t have to open doors for women. Everyone should open doors for everyone.
It's because women like to feel like the boss Lol but naturally they aren't built to be dominant
common courtesy!
Strongly agree
I get that it could be seen as an act of politeness but in My personal experience, whenever I open the door for men they literally won't walk through until I do. Which is such a minor thing but I honestly feel really offended by it cause if you can open the door for me, let me do the same for you.
I'm wondering when "chivalry" replaced "courtesy". Because, I remember being taught to open doors for others as a form of courtesy.
Same here, man. I just open doors for absolutely anyone because it's respectful.
When did this become a foreign concept? I honestly have no idea.
@Emcstea that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. You're insinuating that all men open doors for women as a way to sexually harass women. That is fundamentally absurd. I'm willing to bet that you don't even know the objective behind a pickup line. I'll give you a hint, it's not to get in a woman's panties. Your narrow-mindedness is only serving to further divide men and women. Not every man is trying to get you into bed with them. I know this sounds harsh, but life is harsh and trying to say that something courteous offends you actually offends me. Here is my question to you... How long are you going to let a bad experience you had dictate what you do in your life?
@Emcstea I had a hard time understanding your grammar but I understood the last line. So I'll just respond to that.
"It's come to if I show you kindness and be grateful, it's a cue for you to demand something of me. This is how we got here."
This shows me that you're equating some of your bad experiences with immature men to being the behavior of men in general.
This is absolutely unrealistic. I open the door for everyone, and then I expect nothing back from them, and I generally never see them again.
The point is to show kindness to others because we're all here together, and life is hard enough without yet another scowl in the streets.
So we smile, and we do what we can for complete strangers.
Your view on men as a whole is very skewed, and I genuinely hope that you're proven wrong in person someday. I know that comments on CZcams aren't going to do it for you.
Much love and respect to both of you.
@@cxx23 & tybros I have to say I am very impressed with your logical, and well spoken responses, considering that in most comment sections you would just find needless bickering and fallacies. Particularly the way you ended the comments was both thought provoking and respectful. This is how we should speak to each other, regardless of opinions and beliefs. Thank you for being an example.
99% of the population do open doors... idk
The way that lady was like I wAnT eVeRyOnE tO kNoW that I dont open doors if I'm with a man
Well she said it was how she was raised
farhoud looks like the type of person you could tell anything to in just the way that he was listening and reassuring everyone
I wish they had brought in people of different ages.These ones are in a similar age bracket,it'd be cool to hear out what ages 60 and 16 think.
I'm lost I'm found GREAT POINT. Would’ve been a lot less bias
@@alissonbate842 True true
I think that this video should require a larger group of diverse people. Diverse in age, cultural background, and from all over the US.
This is a topic that, in certain circles, is in contention, under debate. It would be good to do a big group like they did with the dems vs repub.
Different countries and cultures as well
Also would have been cool to see how gender stereotypes have evolved over the years.
"You don't know how scary you men can be. You never have to think that you could get killed."
Black guy: "you don't know the women in my family."
As a black man, I find this funny and 100% accurate
Xx REAPER_KNIGHT xX facts, I’d fight any man before I fight my sister or moms. They’d murk me
Xx REAPER_KNIGHT xX as a white man, I will agree with the black man
lmao yass
The fatality rate of men being killed here in America is far beyond that of any female. People generally have to sympathy for men to begin with.
2 things:
- Everybody should hold the door for everybody.
- joe is a king
I once dated a guy who did all the typical "chivalrous" stuff - opening doors, pulling out seats, offering jacket, etc.
But then he was always late to pick me up, got annoyed if I wasn't available to take his calls, and mansplained everything to me.
From his perspective, he was very respectful to me because he did all the respectful, chivalrous things.
But from my perspective, he didn't respect my time, my needs, or my intelligence.
I definitely prefer men who respect me as a person and not as a little woman who needs doors opened for her.
When we're talking about being "chivalrous", it means being a gentleman. And being annoyed because he didn't get what he want, is not chivalrous.
Update: The guy just came out as gay. (He was deeply closeted because he's from a very religious culture). He was just going through the act of dating women because he thought that was what he was "supposed" to do, but his heart clearly wasn't in it.
@@annalenhart751 oh damn
Koree- I hate that women are always expected to do administrative work.
Also Koree- if there’s a man near me I EXPECT that he will open the door for me. 🤦♂️
Caleb Fisher right? 🙄
Whel yes but women often expect that because women do all of the house work next to having a career
True
@Jacqueline Filo nahh
@Jacqueline Filo Lmao my exstepmother refuses to work or do any chores, my dad had to do all the cleaning so I agree. The stereotype works for all people tbh
Found it interesting that she had a problem with people at work expecting her to do the admin stuff because she was female, but she expected and demanded a male to open the door for her.
James Thorogood the irony!!!!
Ridiculous
James Thorogood exactly!
She should consider herself lucky.
I hardly consider myself lucky as man because I get to the the more physically demanding jobs.
Having back issues and constant leg aches before 30 is not awesome.
F E M A L E E N T I T L E M E N T
The first line said in the video "I don't think men realize how scary they are." As a man, more specifically, a large, muscular, straight, white man, I ALWAYS try to watch what I say or do to make sure to not get called out as something else. Even as a young guy, just turned 15, I've always felt terrible and been really self-conscious about what I say or do in order to not be able to offend or hurt anyone.
exactly and thats an unfair way for you to live .. her statement was horrible
ty for doing that sorry
@@tamtamr9081 HER STATEMENT WAS NOT HORRIBLE?? It’s a fact. Women have every right to be scared of men as long as they don’t go up to random men and say your a rapist go jump off a bridge cuz u scare me like tf? You cannot trust anyone and she was 100% right
@@tamtamr9081 her statement was not horrible she has the right to be honest and be scared
@@rilexlyes8758 saying that men are scary is different from saying that she is scared of men, her statement was horrible.
I enjoyed listening to Farhoud's views. He has a very calming presence and seemed like an enlightened person.
“If I’m with a male, I will not open the door.”
Wtf? I’d just leave you standing there
She probably meant, like, on a date. She was also kind of making a joke out of it. Koree was very reasonable throughout the rest of it, so I let that one pass. xD
Id str8 up open the door enough for me to go thru and close it behind me. I hate women who act like that. That lack of respect. Dont get me wrong for the general normal population, i always open the door. But the moment i see someone as cocky as that. Nah im good. I dont need to walk with u anymore
dembonez19 no .
I like it when women expect that, it's a breathe of fresh air for me honestly. I'd rather have a girl stand there then look at me all riled up like I GOT IT.
Ali on a date with someone u find attractive okay
I don't feel this debate was productive at all. Most of it was based on personal issues.
Salman Adam yep and no one challenged anyone on anything until the end where the women was saying no man understood her. A lot of these are good topics that never get deep enough or people don’t challenge the other persons controversial thoughts enough
Salman Adam this talk was kinda disappointing
Salman Adam true and both parties never really made a good point.
Although it might not have been the most productive debate, I do think that hearing a perspective that's different from yours is helpful in moving towards better comprehending one's world. It's hard to tease out "personal issues" from one's point of view, because like it or not, these personal issues shape our thinking.
The primary purpose of these videos to start a conversation not to debate. It is in the title, "Middle Ground." I would say with the title in mind that this video was fairly successful/productive.
I'm a kid I open doors for man and woman just to be nice 😌 I don't care about gender I help anyone
"If I am with a male I don't open the doors" Good you can stay outside and tell how was the climate when I am done
I have a proposal. Stop editing the videos so heavily, I feel like you cut people and conversation off to make the conversation go a certain way. Try an unedited version and I’ll respect the series more
Can't agree enough
Agreed! I feel like it's just people expressing their opinion instead of engaging with each other and having a conversation.
I do like the concept and the questions, though! But I miss depth.
Jubilee is filled with people on the left they dont have one conservative on their team yet they're all about peoples differences makes no sense
@@Fanofmusic106 facts they admitted this themselves
@@scoobysk8r4evr yup. They'll include every race and ethnicity in the book to work for them but when it comes to political views they're all the same?
Men shouldn't open doors for women. People should open doors for people. Y'all need to get this equality thing right, lol
@Kir By they're not different. stop with these expectations, god.
Kir By Exactly! We are equal is essence but different in function. It seems to me like there are who people want us to be gender neutral socially. As a woman that is attracted to men I want a man who is acting like a man (and interacting with me like one). I don't want some gender neutral behaving male (What do I need that for I can get that on my own or with friends?)
@Kir By Absolutely, men and woman are different, no doubt about it. And I love it when my boyfriend shows chivalry. But over all, I think people should stop leaving it to men to be respectful. We can all hold doors, we can all be helpful and respectful. But I totally get your point, especially about gender neutrality.
Kir By and what exactly are women expected to do to men, accept the flowers?
@@MissLadyG99 "behaving like a man" means that men are taught to behave a certain way because society wants them to do so and that's messed up. There's no gender neutral behavior, it's who people are, don't judge that. It's just an illusion, everyone's how they are, society just wants to label everything and that's just not possible.
"I Don't think that a lot of men realize just how scary they are" same, I was at the beach at night with my 2 brothers and there was this group of men blocking the way and I didn't wanna go past them because it was scary and my brothers didn't understand me because they don't feel the same
that sounds like a u problem seems like ur just trying to make it seem like all men are dangerous like tf just say excuse me like damn
@@ashiesty7140 I never said all men I quoted "a lot of men" and agreed on that.
@@ashiesty7140 stfu
@Michael Valensi it's not sexism.
@Michael Valensi My point was that I agreed on her saying that a lot of men don't realise how scary they are. When I walked past those men they probably didn't realize how intimidating they were. My brothers did not understand how I felt. That's not sexism that's just what happened
Be Kind. Be respectful. Help one another.
Why can’t men just respect women and women just respect men. Respect everyone. Open doors for everyone. Don’t treat anyone differently for things they can’t change
because people in general are too busy thinking but what about me rather than what about us.
Ye I mean nowadays people are trying to get rid of male and female stereotypes which for me just makes everyone seem too sensitive now like learn how to take a joke or don't be too mean
I know It seems so easy yet it's so hard for some people in our society
It's diverse, we can't generalize.. Some don't even think of this, some treat this as a problem..
Just passing by to give some facts
Yes
My mother raised me to open doors for men, women, and children if they are behind me and in close proximity walking into a store, restaurant, building. It’s just polite. But I do appreciate it when men hold doors open for me, it’s a gentleman thing to do. But I wouldn’t be standing around waiting for a man to hold it for me when I can do it myself.
preach
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That’s exactly what I think
Am I the only one who thinks guys choose to hold doors for girls just to look at their butts? I’d honestly much rather open my own door or for others, and that’s just the part of me that would rather help people than be helped. If somebody holds it open for me boy or girl I usually go into a mini fight saying “no you go ahead, no you” lol but honestly you say your mother taught you. Its not just polite, it’s common sense. Like if somebody is right behind you or has a lot of things you might as well hold the door open. I just learned to hold doors open cuz I’m a decent human being but nobody would call me a gentlemen tho cuz that’s a masculine term. Saying that it’s a “gentlemen” thing to do, you almost label it as something a man should do and not women. I know that probably wasn’t your intention but that’s how I perceived it. I appreciate when ANYONE holds the door open for me because that’s just the KIND thing to do. I don’t appreciate it anymore just cuz a guy does it. I’d only appreciate it more if it was an old person cuz out of respect I should be holding the door for them for being older if anything.
Totally agree, if people want equality we have to be equal. This is why chivalry is so old fashioned to me, it’s typically a masculine thing to be chivalrous and to pay for the meal on a date, hold open doors, pull the chair out for the lady. When in fact if people want equality between the genders (as I do) women should split the cheque the man, hold open their own doors. Y’know I just find the fact women are “weaker” a load of rubbish.
*"If men are not needed, then I don't think you are here."*
- Their Fathers.
Why do some women think they're entitled to be treated like a princess while they can't reciprocate the deeds done for them
Why do men have nothing but the audacity
@@123sara9 cause they work harder
@@Berrygirl6784 well they did create this society and look how rubbish it is
@@123sara9 Rubbish??? Wow hypocrite the smartphone even this youtube u using and commenting rubbish made by that gender so...
i mean if i guy wants to open the door for me I'll not complain but I don't expect this from them and especially don't stand there waiting for it. If i got to the door first I'll just open it 🤷
@Kir By omg ikr
What if you get to the door at the same exact time?
@@elishaharman9891 then i guess whoever wants to open the door will open it
Emília França I agree whoever is there first. And I think the nature of the relationship changes things to. Someone Idk might do the half hold thing you know keep it open but when my hand touches the door they let go, that’s normal. But a boyfriend/brother/father (someone who genuinely cares for me) I expect them to hold the door for me.
@@elishaharman9891 okay if that's how you feel, i never said it was wrong, you're just different from me
Please do one with teens!!!!!! Its very important for young people to have a platform to share their voice, this would be perfect
Edit: so glad to see all the responses ( good and bad ) Thank you all so much for getting this conversation started :)
youtube is overswarmed with useless teens their voice is everywhere and most of the time not well thought out (i am quite young btw)
So they can all identify with 76. Genders and memes
as a teenager I'd like to come out and say teenagers are mind numbingly retarded and do not deserve a voice lmao that's like saying babies deserve a voice
@@dominicdannies7482 I agree on some level to that statement however there are teens who are intelligent and passionate about politics, issues happening in the country, etc. who have a voice that deserves to be heard. Adults tend to write off things teens say when it comes to important issues because of their age and "inexperience" but a video where the teens that have strong opinions have the ability to show a large audience those opinions would be beneficial to all.
@@alfonsocampos3662 that's a really generalized statement, there are some teens that could care less about politics and bigger issues happening but there are some who are very educated and have things to say that shouldn't be pushed aside because of their age.
"Son, dont ever try to understand women. Women understand women, and they hate each other"
- Al Bundy
Women don't truly HATE each other,I assure you that if a womans enemy would be in danger of getting,lets say,raped,most women would help their enemy
They all just said that men aren't stronger than women but proceed to say that men are terrifying to them? Like wtf? Why would you be scared if you're just as equally strong?
modern feminism
Whoever is there first, opens the door. If someone has their hands full, open the door.
Also if there elderly
Kir By no?? And I’m not fifteen, by the way. If your sitting here talking about a “crush” I think you’d be the younger one here.. opening a door does not make you a man, just a normal person
Kir By You’re right, it’s just polite. *For both genders* being polite isn’t just eliminated from women. It’s a two way street. Beta females and beta males exist.
Kir By and? your feelings have nothing to do with a broad subject, you are one in 9 billion people.
Whomever
I think that everyone should hold open doors for everyone because it's the nice thing to do? Woman or Man, you should have manners...
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Yeah, especially if someone's holding some heavy bags and needs help or something. It would be rude not to.
Manner!!!. Man.
well said
I hold doors open for everyone, but my husband always holds doors open for me. Ten years later and he still opens my car door. I don't take it as him saying I'm incapable; I know he knows I am. It's like that one guy said, it's his way of being respectful and honoring me, which I think is beautiful. I think context is always important. Like how women from the west or north might get offended by my saying "ma'am" even though for me it's a sign of respect.
Being strong is different than being angry.
"Generalization is always problematic." repeat that one. Again and again until you realize what you just said...
Its so frustrating when people dont actually answer the question that was asked, but instead reshape the question in such a way that they can talk about a set of beliefs which they already had. People are always so eager to convince others of their own beliefs but rarely think, then actually process a question and thén answer.
Koen van der Post True I noticed that too. Since I watch these series I try to listen more when I discuss with people.
ya like the woman with the afro
Brett
True !
I find it enraging
Koree: **implies that men are privileged**
Also Koree: **won't open doors for herself because she considers it something she's owed as a woman**
Best way to put it👌
They think their are supposed to be treated as superior to all men
Darrick Vino no they don’t, they’re feminists. feminists strive for equality. it’s literally on the definition
@@user-tx6lu6nz5r Beyond feminists, I have yet to meet anyone that perceives current feminism as a movement seeking equality.
Not the same, intel
i’m a women and here is my opinion. Whoever asked the other person on a date should be paying and opening doors. Whether it’s a girl, a boy, or any other gender
See there’s a problem with that, because 90% of the time the mans the one asking the woman out on a date, and since the sole purpose of a date is to learn about the person why do you have to pay for the other person, just split it it because some horrible people use the other for a free meal
I dont agree,people who are first near the door should open the door,ur method just using advantage of ur boyfriend or girlfriend
Bruh women won't even split the bill and it's your food tf
As a women, the one thing I sympathize with man the most is the that they are not allowed to process their emotions, bad emotions can be crippling, I'm no expert, but this may be linked to the majority on suicides is the US being men. That is why I instantly cry if I see a man cry.
I wish they would have talked about double standards more.
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I would have liked them to talk about the double standards when it comes to domestic violence or issues like bias towards women in the justice system despite the fact that the system should be impartial
@@yanndylan2239 I was waiting for that this whole time and it was never brought up
Meninists be like
@@xgullafter9590 a true feminist who aspires for gender equality doesn't focus on just female issues, that's what gender EQUALITY means.
*men and women aren't the same but they are equal!*
justtammi if they aren’t the same how are they equal
@@toolshedbootygoon1677 they are physically and mentally different but they have equal rights, etc. You treat everyone equally even though they are all different people.
Lenny Lynch I agree, it just sounded different to me how they said it.
@@toolshedbootygoon1677 I can give you a quick explanation, heaven creates everyone equal but on different levels, for example a leader and a farmer are equal.. They don't hold the same responsibility but each was given enough "ability" compared to his "responsibility" the same goes for men and women, men are given more physical power, more mental stability meaning they have more responsibility than women as providers and protectors, think of it as numbers.. Men are like 3 and women are like 1, 3 alone is bigger than 1... But 3/3 = 1/1
@@emperorakai3275 heaven no is real tho
The fact that most people are hung up about doors says a lot about where they skipped the video.
I am a girl and I have opened doors for men.. Whoever comes first or have nothing in their hands can open doors for others. Just don't close them to others' face.
"Generalisations are always problematic"
That... sir... is a generalisation.
Check mate
damn
Well played
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"Only a Sith deals in absolutes!"
Students vs. Teachers
omg yes
Guns 😎
Students: I feel-
Teacher: Are you talking back? Detention.
Pablo Pabon OMG yessss
Yass
“Men should hold doors for women open”
Them: literally talking about doors
Me: thinking the doors were a metaphor
Glad I wasn’t there, cause that would’ve been totally embarrassing 🤪
"generalization is always problematic" haha dude you walked right into that
The concept of holding doors open for women came from Medieval times where doors were very heavy so the strong men had to open them and the women physically couldn’t.
Edit: Y’all this is just what my Brit Lit prof taught us 🤷🏻♀️
Why "strong men"? Are you trying to say men weren't strong back then?
Simon K. Are you being sarcastic?
All i think about when it comes to the whole door situation is like, its a door its something you need to open or close, just do it. Why get into something that is so easy to just go through (literally)
😂😂 really?!
@@lave9842 ikr and although I started to like the girl in the video in the beginning she said she wouldn't even go through one if there was a guy next to her 🤣
Wait so every individual is different? Huh. What a concept.
I know right?! I had no idea that humans were individuals.
Shocking.
This cannot be true omg
lol lol lol
Groundbreaking!
Lmaooo is there any point watching this video lol ? Peepin comments before watching to see any revelations
I hold the door open for anyone, not because they can't do it, but because it is polite to do so.
Next segment should be Gay men Vs Straight men
Why is emotion only associated with sadness?
Men aren't emotional? Have you ever seen us watch sports or even play video games. Tons of emotions
MrMusicdot oh yeah true true
In studies girls are often able to use more words to describe emotions for everything except for anger
Cod 4 flashbacks intensifies
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Those are good emotions though.
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i liked everything the girl in the blue said minus the door thing. sorry but men don’t owe us anything. we can open our own doors. i understand it’s a thing of “respect” for women, but if you’re at the door first, open the damn thing 😩
Gentleman
Fortricity Exactly, that is what a gentleman does and a lady recognizes a gentleman when he shows chivarly, and she isn't itimated by him or his actions.
cassidy’s edits they actually owe us everything
She’s a queen. I’d open the door and several other things for her.
@@abigailhabtehanes5798 What exactly do we owe you?
I LOVE it when guys are chivalrous! Guys, please don’t be intimidated by rude women about being chivalrous! A majority of women REALLY love it when you open the door. It just says that you care and are kind. Guys are awesome! Thank you to all the men on here who are respectful to women. I hope I come across as honoring to you guys! You guys deserve it!
I completely agree with you! Most of us women appreciate men being chivalrous.
can we not salute and herald men for having basic social skills and respect towards other people? the bar truly is low for men if this is what we're praising them for.
@@eduardo-np7mx lol, crazy feminist
As a lady, I get scared walking around at night, and yes because of bad men. I've had less bad encounters with women on the streets or secluded places but have been harassed by the opposite gender on literally every common place you can think of. So when you have experiences like that, it's totally understandable to be scared to walk down a 200m road
Luckily there are a lot more good men and good women than there are "bad" ones, even if the media tend to talk just about the negative experiences. Then again, I am lucky enough to be surrounded by safe and respectful men in my life.
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Depends where you live..
The Hyperbole
No, we’d still be equal or @ war...
Both sides are armed.
@@AmaraOkpechi Men created almost every usefull thing we have to date. If we ended up in war then women would sex dolls for the men.
Quick Fix - Thought Provoking Videos we tend to say “well there are a lot of good people more then bad” but do we really know that?As humans we have the same organs and skin but what’s different is our mindset and thought process we don’t know what each other are thinking.
“I do not open the door for myself” ... ok so u can stay outside withe the flies
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U are a total badass
@@divine5027 how are the flies?
@@kvaldez46 badass is a good thing
That's what I was thinking who thinks that 😂
No one is holding the door for you because they don't think you can't open it. That's ridiculous. It's the polite thing to do. And I do it for everyone not just women
I'm interested to hear Dae's take on the door issue, as a gay man who doesn't have a natural desire to impress women.
Just because a man opens a door for a woman doesn't mean he thinks it's because they're unable to. Everyone can open a door. He's just being a gentleman. Don't overanalyze an act of kindness.
I totally agree. Like what she's saying is the history of it, but to think that a man would be acting from that history and thinking of it is completely absurd! I'm all for acts of kindness from people of whatever gender.
Izzy May Be Great well, I dont want an act of kindness that only exists based on my gender. I want an unconditional act of kindness.
Right, the old Western world expectations are so proper compared to modern day America , because opening a door for women "is oppression"
Yeah overreaching hard on that one
i understand their point ... i think it just depends on the situation and person tbh
Men and women are different, yet equal (in value). It’s really not rocket science.
I agree. there are different social norms, our bodies are different, we have different hormones.. there are a lot of differences, but I do think we all are equally important regardless of gender or sex.
Dominique Kooper Hit the nail on the head.
That's debatable.
@@DTreatz thank youuuu
Dtreatz Not the fundamental science. Maybe gender roles and societal norms, but the biological concept that they are different is fact. Take the XY and XX chromosomes for example.
This one is so calm and unproblematic I love that the only bad thing to come out of it is the door holding! Wish they could all be this sweet
Notice how it's always women saying 'men don't know this' or 'men think this' or 'men feel or don't feel this'? Men can't say that about women. Just an obervation.
Exactly. Men can't have an opinion other than the 'correct' one, otherwise it's considered oppressive.
@@butter3617no one cares what men think
@@123sara9 That's the problem.
@@butter3617 okay and stop trying to act oppressed when men dont suffer as much as women
@@123sara9 What makes you think men suffer less than women?
CAN YOU GUYS DO ONE WITH JUST TEENS I would love to hear my age groups thoughts
Agreed that would be so cool
Ayantu Bedaso I AGREE I personally would LOVE to share my voice and opinions on something like this, and even learn things from it too!
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teens VS adults or students VS teachers could be cool
Ayantu Bedaso I think it would be great but I think it should be teens vs. parents
I hate that women's mentality of "Oh i'm a woman so I don't touch the door. I'll stand there and wait for the man to come open it for me." Like you really think you're this great prize the man should only be so lucky to get. What if a man said "Oh i'm a man so I don't touch the stove. I'll sit there and wait for the woman to come and cook for me." That woman would have lost her mind.
^^^I had this exact thought as soon as she said it. The hypocrisy is cringe inducing
Perfect analogy lol
I'm not agreeing with that she said but she is only saying that she does that if she is with a man meaning if she is on a date with him or if she's just hanging out with a male friend, she says like 2 seconds after that she'll hold the door for anyone if she's by herself or with a female but if she's WITH a male she knows she won't open the door
Woman here!! I couldn’t stand that comment that lady made. That was pathetic.
The last one actually happens a lot, way more than the first one in fact but since It doesn't affect you, you ignore it.
When I understand how scary I am😂😂
I am even afraid of my sister🤣🤣
I'll hold the door for anyone behind me... I even do that thing where you didn't time their walk out right and it takes way too long lol. I still got you, person.